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Quote# 126783

I know I'm going to be downvoted to hell for saying this, but I think most of the negative aspects of having sex as a young person (especially females) come from society's views on sex. If you found out later that you were "used," why would that matter unless you were tricked into thinking your virginity or your genitals are sacred?

Yes, a 25 year-old might be using a 15-year old for sex, but how is that any different than a 15-year old boy doing the same? What if the 25-year old explicitly states that he just wants her for sex and nothing else?

Furthermore, if we're going to talk about maturity, why is 18 the magic number? Why not 25 when the brain is fully matured?

I was in a relationship as a teenager with someone in university. It was so easy for him to use me and lie to me, because I was still very naive. I know that some of these relationships go well, but most that I know of were bad for the youngest partner because the power balance between partners wasn't like it should be. It is very easy for an adult to overpower and use a teenager, maybe even without knowing it.

Okay, but how were you hurt and how was that damage equivalent to being labelled a sex-offender for life and going to prison? If you had to choose between those two options (being lied and used vs prison and being labelled as a sex offender) which would you choose?

I agree that what he did to you was a dick-move, but unless he used physical intimidation, I think the punishments we're handing out are out of proportion. Do you think he deserves to be in prison?

Or like I asked another user... if I were a guy of the age of 25 with an IQ of 200 and I used and lied to a girl of the same age with an IQ of 90, does that warrant that kind of punishment since it's essentially the same dynamic? It'd be just as easy for me to lie to her and use her.

Again, I think this has more to do with the fact that women are taught to value their virginity and sex in irrational ways.

I was depressed for a year and needed a few more to get my confidence back..

The adult chooses for the relationship, much more than the child (s)he has a relationship with.

That I was hurt with that relationship had nothing to do with how society views sex, unless it's the other way around: not 'putting out' after a certain time of being together is 'not done', and certain gender roles made his behaviour seem ok.

You didn't answer any of my questions so I don't know how to respond to this.

This happens with adults. Should an adult who uses a depressed adult go to prison?

Okay, so assuming you weren't feeling slut shamed, how is that hurt any different than a guy your age doing the same thing? Should a guy your age who had the ability to trick you into sex go to prison?

If I use a friend for his/her video game system and they find out (which hurts them), should I go to prison?

OpinionGenerator, Reddit 10 Comments [4/29/2017 12:51:25 PM]
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Quote# 126792

A Fox News contributor has claimed that gay men who walk into a bar are “asking” to be assaulted.

Right-wing contributor Erick Erickson aired his shocking opinions in a new blog post, where he insisted that if gay men get attacked, it’s there fault for “making people feel uncomfortable” in the first place.

He wrote: “You know, I’m really damn tired of all the people running around making other people extremely uncomfortable then screaming about their rights and privileges when called out.

“If you want to go around making people uncomfortable, you’ve got the problem, not the rest of us.”

Erikson went on to belittle the story of Matthew Shepard, who was brutally beaten and tortured and left for dead in one of the most shocking attacks on the LGBT+ community in America.

He continued: “The dude wearing the tutu shoulders some of the responsibility. He should have known better. And spare me the tirade about Matthew Shepherd.

“If a guy walks into a bar in Wyoming wearing make up and a tutu, he’s probably going to be asked to leave, if not picked on or punched.”

Erick Erickson, Attitude 13 Comments [4/30/2017 8:22:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 126799

Evolution as a theory has been used by racists to claim black are closer to apes than whites who are descended fro Neanderthals I know their are no monkeys I our family tree and my family was creating pyramids and cities while the rest of the world were crawling around in caves?.

Emily dooley, youtube 6 Comments [4/30/2017 1:08:15 PM]
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Quote# 126789

Exposing Trans Rights Activists, Facebook 10 Comments [4/30/2017 8:14:11 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 126798

Progressive Democrats Are The New Nazi Party

Their own actions speak for themselves,there is very little difference between radical left-wing progressivism and fascism.

Now that progressives are openly backing political violence against their opponents, they have technically crossed over.

NAZIs practiced or enforced:

Nationalized health care
Gun ownership rights stripped from citizens
Restrictions placed on free speech
Centralized control of the national economy
Capitalism banned
Centralized control of the media
Adherence to strict "green" environmental policies
Centralized control of education
Political violence against their opposition

The list goes on, but the key is progressive democrats today agree with pretty much everything the NAZIs did during their reign of terror against the world.

Progressive democrats are not liberals, not even to the slightest degree. True liberalism is a far right wing ideology that is predicated upon anti-authoritarianism, private property rights and the individual.

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 5 Comments [4/30/2017 1:07:57 PM]
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Quote# 126796

Magick is science. Creative Manifestation

Science and magick are one.

Magick is acheived by Will, Thought, and Belief. Which in turn are ruled by the Universal Law of Vibration. Which affects matter.

So, thoughts have power. Through science

What you see in this reality: is merely an effect of your core beliefs, because as what you believe – you see, in your reality. What happens in your world – either good or bad, is a mere reflection of the person you are/ was to others.

You advance, when your belief is replaced by knowing.

And that in a nutshell is the power of magick, manifestation through sheer Will and Thought and Belief.

Creative manifestation. Its science through Dipolar Gravity.

Vibrations produce realities in our consciousness, though that which produce vibrations may not be at all like what we perceive. Thus, in metaphysics we often differentiate that which is actual and that which is real. That which is actual. or actuality, is related to the essence of the Cosmic, the absolute state of Being. What is real is what we realize. the picture we have in our consciousness of the actuality.

The Absolute state is immutable. Realities are transmutable. Change the vibrations of a thing and we change the manifestation of the thing. From pure spirit to gross matter, all is energy in vibratory motion.

Strife, Godlike Productions 2 Comments [4/30/2017 1:07:35 PM]
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Quote# 126795

No doubt about it Obama is the *ANTICHRIST* the Son of Perdition. Comes to a head May 25th

May 25th is Ascension Day

Resurrection DAY April 16th.

40 days later MAY 25th

Acts 1 takes place 40 days after the Resurrection: Jesus, in the company of the disciples, is taken up in their sight.


Obama's Speech. The
May 25 event will take place in front of Berlin's landmark Brandenburg Gate, where Obama delivered a speech as president in 2013.

Obama to Join German Protestant Reformation Celebrations in May

MAY 25th 2017

44th day of the Omer= OBAMA the 44th President


The Seat of Satan: Nazi Germany

[link to www1.cbn.com]


Thread: THE SEAT OF SATAN WAS MOVED TO BERLIN..Obama – Occult Connection?


Obama to give speech in Berlin to mark Reformation anniversary

Obama to reemerge publicly for event on “democracy” and “responsibility” with Merkel on May 25th in Berlin

Obama's Berlin visit to coincide with Trump in Brussels

christian, Godlike Productions 6 Comments [4/30/2017 1:07:00 PM]
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Quote# 126790

Exposing Trans Rights Activists, Facebook 9 Comments [4/30/2017 8:14:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 126762

Why do people choose to be gay?

Well there is the aspect that it is promoted by certain wealthy individuals just like pedophilia is but the main goal is to destroy Christian values.

Theocrat7, Deviantart 13 Comments [4/29/2017 12:47:34 PM]
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Quote# 126767

Also, while it is true that we are no longer under the Law today, those who are not in Christ are still under the Law. The ONLY reason that Homosexuals and Adulterers are not put to death is because of the laws of this country and our command to obey them unless they specifically require us to sin against God. Lessening the penalty for Homosexuality does not require that. Ergo, those countries that do have the Death Penalty are no less just than we.

Royce E. Van Blaricome, Stream.org 12 Comments [4/29/2017 12:48:09 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 126736

Satan formed Swift into such a way, having perfectly circular and perky breasts to trick unwittingly stupid men into engaging in utter depravity with the utmost evil organ of shame and sin.

James Wilson, New Testament Baptist Church 30 Comments [4/28/2017 2:13:59 PM]
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Quote# 126761


Not all heroes wear capes - show your support for Bashar al-Assad and the Syrian armed forces.

[Shirt with the face of Bachar al-Assad and the slogan "Not all heroes wear capes"]

Right Wing Death Squad, Right Wing Death Squad 6 Comments [4/29/2017 12:47:30 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 126772

Don’t fall of the Democrat’s lies about gun control. Whenever a Democrat stands up to talk about firearms they have no idea what they are talking about. Bans of all sorts, background checks, and waiting periods don’t deter crime or prevent tragedies. If you are anti-gun then don’t buy one and don’t try to tell people like me that I’m morally wrong for owning one. Trust us, we aren’t listening. Why? Lions care not for the opinions of sheep. Stay safe, keep your weapon(s) clean, and use common sense. All my CHL/LTC holder brothers and sisters: keep making America a safer place knowing that should a criminal try to hurt others, we will be there to stop them.

#weapons #liberals #liberal #gun control #gunblr #guns of tumblr #firearms #pro gun #progressive #conservatives #libertarian #liberty #freedomthefuckon #freedom #free speech #safety #lions

soviet-saiyan, Tumblr 19 Comments [4/29/2017 12:49:03 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 126775

Yes!!!! Wholly agree and there WILL be Gnashing of teeth! The Edomites "understand" the junk that they have made up (Ancient Egyptians were Caucasian, a lie, etc.), and now, since we Israelites are coming into the knowledge of WHO WE ARE versus Who our enemies are (which includes other nations along with Edomites) they're having a problem digesting it. However, we know the Heathens will Rage! LOL?

muchacha251, youtube 5 Comments [4/29/2017 12:49:30 PM]
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Submitted By: P.E.T.F

Quote# 126781

Catholics eat fish on Fridays in honor of the pagan Philistine god, Dagon (half man and half fish). This is why Catholics eat fish on Fridays.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 24 Comments [4/29/2017 12:51:08 PM]
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Quote# 126760

Esau who's name was changed to Edom is the father of the Edomites who is the so called white people today. Esau is also Jacobs fraternal twin brother. Jacobs name was changed to Israel by the most high, and Jacob is the father of the Israelites. The Lord told Rebekah two manner of people shall be seperated from her bowels, so that means that Jacob and Esau will look and be nothing alike. Esau came out first and they described him as red and hairy. Now lets take time and think are white people really white? NO!!!!! If you take a white peace of paper and put it next to there skin you can clearly see that they are not white. They chose to call themselves white because it means pure in the dictionary. White people are really red because when they get mad or really hot they turn fire red, and that's why down south we call them rednecks. Now lets take time to think are black people really black? NO!!!! Black people are really different shades of brown. They chose to call us black cause in the dictionary it means evil, wicked, and death. I know you're thinking why isn't Jacobs color mentioned in the scriptures above? That's because Jacob looked like everybody else when the most high first formed man and thats brown lets get proof.

Gen 2:6-7 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. And the Lord God formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul.

The Unknown Truth, The Unkown Truth 5 Comments [4/29/2017 12:46:53 PM]
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Quote# 126791

I couldn't' agree more. Originally the Ivy League was where the old money east coast elites sent their children. The middle class aspired to send their children there for the connections their own children would make if not for the quality of the educations afforded. Now it seems you're less likely to meet a Bush or Kennedy than some recent 2nd generation immigrant automaton ruthlessly driven by 1st generation immigrant tiger parents. Elitism is giving way to meritocracy, which is good, but at a frightening cost.

Frank, Nytimes 3 Comments [4/30/2017 8:21:56 AM]
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Quote# 126785

A 55-year-old woman was beheaded in what is believed to be a case of human sacrifice in Barabazar in West Bengal’s Purulia district, police said on Sunday.

Phulia Mahato has been accused of having cut off his mother’s head with a 'khargo', a bladed weapon used for animal sacrifices, as an offering to Goddess Kali on Friday evening while she was cleaning a Kali temple at home.

Mahato, 35, is the youngest of the woman’s three sons. He took the bladed weapon he used to chop off his mother’s head to his brother’s house and claimed that his mother had offered herself before the idol, Superintendent of Police Joy Biswas said.

His brother came home with him to find his mother’s head severed from her body and lying in a pool of blood.

The suspect is believed to have confessed to the act during questioning and told the police that the goddess had told him to kill his mother as an offering for the family’s well being.

The suspect has been remanded in judicial custody for 14 days.

"We are exploring all angles and possible motives," Biswas said.

Neighbours said the suspect frequently engaged in occult. — PTI

Phulia Mahato, The Tribune 12 Comments [4/29/2017 2:27:11 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 126768

One of Satan's biggest tools in our country today is the occult role-playing fantasy games which have become so popular. Satan is using these games to produce a vast army of intelligent young people—an army that the antichrist will be able to tap into and control in an instant. Through involvement in these games, people can be controlled by demons without them ever realizing what is happening. In many states, these games are used as part of the curriculum for the more intelligent students. Almost every school has extracurricular clubs specifically for students to play these games. In essence, these games are crash courses in witchcraft. Unfortunately, the participants do not realize this until it is too late.

Most games have a leader who plans the overall course of each game. The game is an adventure where many battles are fought with various "monsters" and "beings,"each having its own abilities or characteristics. There are numerous manuals available with pictures and details about the characters' unique abilities. The players are supposed to "visualize" the action of the game in their minds. The better they are at "seeing" the action and anticipating the moves of the "monsters" and the other players, the more they excel in the game.

What people don't realize is that these monsters are actually demons. They think they are visualizing in their minds, but they are really beginning to see the spirit world in action. The better they become at "seeing" the game, the more in-tune they are with the spirit world. The imagination is a key in their communication with the spirit world. I do not know at what point the players are possessed with demons, but I have worked with many young people who have yet to meet anyone on the level of game leader who was not indwelt by demons and knew it.They will, of course, lie about this. A number told me that the demons would come and talk to them, and that they would invite the more intelligent demons to come in to gain more power.

The more advanced manuals detail spells, incantations, and satanic writing that is used by witches and warlocks of the Brotherhood itself. All who play the games feel a strange fascination and power about them. Few realize what a trap it is, completely deceived. How many of our young people who were once active and enthusiastic interest in the Lord as a result of playing this type of game? More will never come to a saving knowledge of Jesus because of the demonic bondage they induce while playing these games.

Rebecca Brown, He Came to Set the Captives Free (book) 13 Comments [4/29/2017 12:48:35 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 126771

Cosmic update:

Sisters and brothers,

There is a massive shift happening right now in the collective field of awareness and it is moving rapidly and intensely. There are notes for each of you.

Sisters, purge it out! Let it go! Scream, cry, wail if you must. We have not received what we deserve yet, and at the same time, it’s been in our favor. The contrast and polarity has simply given us greater relative awareness of what we do desire. We have even more clarity than ever before and while all of this has been the Creation process designed as it is in agreement between our ‘Divine Parents’, our egos have felt the sting of it. We were meant to. Our temporal selves access greater consciousness through contrast and to reach the greatest states of infinite possible outcomes, we needed the contrast to expand us into more realization of what is possible in even grander ways.

That said, in order to shift into the next stage of your conscious evolution, all that has been must be released and healed. This means that we cannot repress any emotions that hold negative vibrations. If it’s coming up, don’t stuff it down. Purge, purge, purge. Some are reporting that it feels like dying. Have no fear. It is only the impermanent aspects of self that are dying, as they need to, in order to embody even more expansive divine energies and integrate more codes that you have been receiving. In order for the new 'programs’ to be activated, the old ones must be removed and your system refreshed. Purge until you feel the neutral energy again. From there, move into gratitude and love. Focus on the men in your life that have done right by you, and if you can’t think of any, then go ahead and fantasize. Feel the love and gratitude for the masculine showing up as you desire in your personal experience and on a global scale. From there, it is highly recommended that you take the time to write it out. This writing process incorporates body, mind and spirit in the act of spell-ing out the desires of the divine feminine. Be sure to write it in a positive manner for the best possible effect.

Example: Instead of saying, “you will never cheat on me”, you would say, “you will always be faithful”. Instead of, “you won’t start anymore wars”, you will say, “you will bring peace and healing to this planet and all of its inhabitants”.

Self care is vital. Drink lots of clean water, eat healthy light organic foods, rest, soak in sea salt baths, get into nature, express creatively, and anything else you typically do to express self love. You can do this. You are Goddess rising and saying, 'ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!’

You are righteous.

Brothers, hold space and listen. There is no need to get caught up on drama or guilt. Hear truth in what you hear and/or read from the women in your life. You have played your role well and have done so for perfect reasons. You were meant to. Forgive yourself for any perceived failures or wrongs and integrate the new divine masculine codes.

That said, if you are experiencing any overflow from the women in your life, be willing to hear any truth that is being spoken and realize that even though it was meant, there is still pain within the women for all that they have been through in this earthly creation. There is a pendulum swing of energy. The formerly subservient versions of the silenced feminine is integrating with a roar. She is rising now and that means you are too. Stand up. Stand strong. Break yourself free from all that is false and integrate the highest vibration aspects of yourself. You already know how to do this, even if you aren’t aware of it consciously. Meditate, pray and go deep within. The answers are on your heart. It doesn’t matter who you have been. It matters who you are becoming. There is no more need, nor room, on this planet for outdated masculine programming. You are being upgraded in this process as well. Surrender to it. Be willing to hear what is being requested of you and all your brothers globally. While there may be fears of the feminine turning into the dominant ones, just remember that there is balance being sought. This means equality, integrity, commitment, loyalty, peaceful dealings, interdependent relationships and more. The desires the feminine has of you are what you desire of yourself. Move into that and know that it is for the greatest good of all AND the individual fulfillment of each. You can do this. We have faith in you.

If any of you find yourselves overwhelmed and it becomes too much for you to handle alone, reach out to someone. There are many healers that have been prepared for this moment (including us). Some of you already have your favorites and for the rest, find the one(s) that resonate with you the most. There is no reason to suffer alone. Many healers even work on a sliding scale and/or donation basis so that you don’t have to go it alone because of patriarchal limitations. You are worthy of a facilitator that can help you find your way back.

You are all loved. This is a very intense month but the worst of it is almost over and was infinitely valuable, even if you’re challenged to see it in the moment. Trust with faith and patience that greater things will be revealed soon.

Much love to all of you ????????

soul8love, Tumblr 7 Comments [4/29/2017 12:48:54 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 126740

Earlier this month, the Texas chapter of the anti-LGBTQ hate group MassResistance hosted a “pro-family conference” featuring a variety of anti-LGBTQ activists like Peter LaBarbera of Americans For Truth About Homosexuality, Brian Camenker of MassResistance, and Robert Oscar Lopez, who runs the Texas chapter.

Sharon Arkme, who claimed that she was a victim of anti-Christian persecution when she was denied certification in a Master’s program she had enrolled in at Texas State University “because I would not agree with their LGBT agenda,” told attendees that LGBTQ advocates are warring against “Christ and Christians” and “brainwashing our children.”

“I did not realize the full agenda of the radical left,” Armke told the audience. “They are in a war with Christ and Christians, whether we realize it or not. They are not content with society and Christians treating them with outreach, courtesy and respect that should be given to any other human being just because they are human. They want us to approve their behavior. They will not stop until they dominate.”

“They intend, and they are very successful so far, in brainwashing our children to believe that sodomy is right and good,” she continued. “We are trying to show parents what is happening to our children and, excuse me if I say this, we should be screaming bloody murder in the streets. We should be screaming bloody murder in the streets, this is not right! … Those teachers that do this, that teach sodomy to little children, many people call them child abusers and I agree.”

“I learned the hard way the true agenda of the radical left, it’s domination of our children and our culture,” Armke fumed, eventually growing so upset that she couldn’t even finish her remarks and simply declared “may God have mercy on us” as she walked off the stage.

Sharon Arkme, Right Wing Watch 9 Comments [4/28/2017 2:35:18 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 126233

If Christianity didn't exist, there would be no reason for being alive.

PoppyCorn99, DeviantArt 10 Comments [4/28/2017 1:41:34 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 126752

[Dammit Weidmann just pick a bigotry so I can file your quotes correctly]

“White male privilege” is a rhetorical incantation on the Left (and regarded as within the bounds of possibility by many cucks on the Right) that, like most leftoid tenets, is at complete odds with the truth, revealing more the egotistic psychological state of the projecting chanter than it does any observable reality.

It would not only be more truthful to say there is no “white male privilege”, it would be closer still to the truth to say that there’s female privilege and nonWhite privilege.

The religion of Equalism, and its supporting catechism Race and Sex Denialism, has real world consequences. Feminism and antiracism impose palpable, manifest, spiritual and material costs on society, on men, and most pointedly on White men.

Joe Franklin provides a useful list of the ways Equalism in the virulently framed forms of “women’s rights” and “anti-discrimination” have resulted in burdensome and often malicious government policies that stack the deck in favor of women and nonWhites and against men and White men.


That’s a lot of female and nonWhite privileging (read: favoritism based largely on a purposeful misconstruing of the nature of the sexes and races and of the biofeedback loops governing their interactions). When does the college course to address this institutional discrimination against White men get added to the syllabus?

Maybe the Fundamental Premise should be revised and expanded to account for the compulsion of White leftoids to tilt the playing field in the favor of nonWhites at the expense of affordable White family formation, and then to ridicule, ostracize, deprive, and even jail any White man who complains about his disenfranchisement. Ah one term comes to mind…Anarcho-Tyranny.

What’s amazing is that White men still succeed in America despite the government’s boot on their necks and the handicapping of their economic and social opportunities. Now imagine what White men could do if they had a government that looked out for them and protected their interests.

You don’t really have to imagine it. White men had that country not too long ago. They turned America into the greatest power in human history.

CH, Chateau Heartiste 7 Comments [4/28/2017 2:40:30 PM]
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Quote# 126397

The left has decided that they no longer want to live among people who share different views than them. They are plugging their fingers in their ears while yelling racist, fascist, Nazi, and Hitler. They are refusing to yield, compromise, debate, or even accept that their political positions are starting to lose in democratic elections despite suspected cheating that aids them. This has put us squarely in the middle of a cold civil war where both sides of the political spectrum are warming to the idea of killing each other.

A confirmation of the left’s defeat is apparent when you see how their maniacal behavior converts more people, especially moderates, against them. The biggest recruiting tool against the left has become the left. Every time they protest, riot, screech against white people, or show their vulgarity, the remaining mentally sane of America realize that the left’s platform has become so out-of-touch that it no longer represents the basic ideals of the country. The non-cucked right needs to merely show up after temper tantrums and say “Look how crazy they are” for the converts to come pouring in.

The left is out of options

Many people are wondering why the left has become a recruiting agent for the right by promoting or engaging in violence. First, they simply don’t know what else to do. When a parent tells a child that he can’t eat candy for every meal, and the child doesn’t have a logical argument about the merits of eating that candy, what does he do? He cries, stomps his feet, threatens to run away, throws out insults like “meanie” and “jerk,” and may even hit his parent to get his way. Donald Trump and his supporters are the parents who won’t yield to an emotional child.

The second reason why the left is hurting their cause with violence is because its billionaire controllers, particularly George Soros, want to divide America to such an irreparable extent that a hot Civil War is forced, giving them an opportunity to increase their power. Soros wants to create so much hate, animosity, and chaos that any resulting conflict has a chance of him holding absolute power, compared to the current situation where he has “only” a moderate amount. In other words, he rather take the chance of war to solidify his grip further.

The leftists that Soros sponsors in the Woman’s Marches and the antifa outbursts may also want a Civil War, but a quick look at their physiognomy shows they would struggle to even go one day without electricity, and that they possess the same psychological directive as the child who is angry that he can’t have candy. Soros is the creepy old neighbor who promises them the candy they crave because he wants to build their trust and get them alone. The child, naive about the extreme danger that lurks behind the likes of Soros, decides to follow him into a van parked in the alley to spite its own parents and their righteous authority.

The reason the right has been reluctant to respond with violence is because they’re winning. Violence comes not from a position of strength, but desperation, when every other option has been extinguished, and should serve as a signal to you of what the real score between the left and right really is. Without violence, the left currently has a 100% chance of losing, continuously and humiliatingly, for at least the next eight years. All the gains that took them decades to achieve will be lost if we ravage and rape their power structures.

With a hot civil war, the left has a 25% chance to win, a bet they are willing to take even though there is a high chance they will be among the first to die in the conflict. A logical person would ask why they would push for a conflict that is sure to destroy the infrastructure of the urban centers they live in, and one where food, water, and other basic necessities would be lacking. The answer comes upon realizing that a child does not realize that eating candy every day will make him sick. The child must therefore be commanded for its own good, because it does not have the capability to take care of itself or understand the consequences of its actions.

We all lose in a hot war

Before the warrior in you gets excited at the prospect of crushing the left in a hot war and killing antifa members with high-powered weapons as they wield sharpened mop handles at you, understand that any war in the United States would quickly become a proxy war involving all major military powers, particularly China and Russia, who would rush to spend billions of dollars to have ultimate control of the country. It would be protracted and match the first civil war in terms of brutality, where 2% of the population died.

With the current population, a 2% death rate would result in over 6 million deaths. Compared to the 3,000 that died on 9/11, which was seen as the greatest national tragedy of modern times, a hot war would effect every single American in a profoundly negative way. No sane person with a family would wish for this outcome, which further highlights the insanity of much of the left in pushing for this very result. They rather see millions of people dead and the country ruined than accept a democratic process where their crazy ideas lost.

Even if we avoid a hot war, the underlying problems are not solved. The left will constantly subvert against the country in hopes of achieving a hot war, use both economic and physical violence against those on the right whom they disagree with, and inevitably descend into terroristic violence that rivals ISIS. It’s intolerable for things to proceed as they are, but if we remove a hot war from the table, what option is left?


I recommend the long divorce option, which has three components. The first is extreme law and order. Starting with the Federal government, every single instance of leftist threats, intimidation, and violence must be investigated, prosecuted to the maximize allowable by law, and publicized. The left have been getting away with their illegal acts for too long, to the point where violent protesters don’t even fear arrest, thanks to Democratic mayors and police chiefs who allow it. The FBI must uphold the law and punish those who break it, and municipalities or universities that allow illegal acts must be punished through withholding of Federal funds. This will immediately shrink the number of violent agitators on the left and limit the power of their institutions.

The second component of the long divorce option is to excise the left from all centers of cultural power so that they cannot actively convert the youth. The fake news, already on its last legs, must be replaced by organizations that are not so vehemently anti-American, academia must be purged, and all globalist traitors working in government, both on the Federal and state level, must be removed from positions of power.

The media is hemorrhaging money and viewers, millions of citizens are getting red pilled to the subversiveness of the academic system (particularly its anti-male and anti-white agenda), and Trump has begun to right the ship in the Federal government, which will certainly trickle down to the local levels. Because the leftist establishment is losing control over their narrative, the younger Generation Z is already showing signs of rightward thinking thanks to being raised on 4chan memes more than TV programming. This means that we simply need to remove millennials from power and wait for them to die of old age or AIDS while preventing them from causing further damage to American institutions.

Halting immigration is the third component of the long divorce option. The left has not been able to show how immigrants benefit American citizens besides more diverse restaurant options, and emotional pleas of “human rights” and “compassion” is not sufficient enough to turn the United States into a big welfare office. Open-borders immigration is hurting existing citizens, serving as a cynical means for leftists to gain more votes in elections while browbeating their enemies with “hate speech” codes that demand you love non-Americans more than Americans.

We must also advocate for a white population that increases from where it currently stands, because America is no longer America if that number dips below 50%, and will instead look something like an international airport. Once immigration is stopped, and illegal citizens are deported, it will become monumentally more difficult for open-borders politicians to win nationally again. This can be absolutely ensured if woman’s suffrage is repealed, a proposition that I know many find unpalatable, but one that would usher in an era of permanent winning.

[Submitters note: trying to repeal women's suffrage is probably why the hypothetical leftists want to kill you Roosh]

For us to win without a hot civil war, we have to retake the reins of power and peacefully co-exist with bitter leftists over the next fifty years while the culture slowly heals itself. Once institutions are purged of anti-American leftists, the new left will exist in more of a classical liberal form and believe in nominally nationalist ideas while accepting cultural values that are shy of traditional. The long divorce option will not excite you because of the length it takes to see a resolution, but it’s one that will preserve life and the existing infrastructure of the United States.

Four future outcomes

There are four outcomes that can proceed from the juncture of which we stand. The first is a globalist resurgence at the polls thanks to demographic changes that push the vote far to the left, starting in 2024. If this happens, we will have a president that is more authoritarian than Hillary Clinton. The boot will come down on all facets of American life, especially speech, and we will essentially be living in an open-air prison.

The second outcome is a hot war where we win. The country will be ravaged and millions will die, but at least most of the deaths will be leftists.

The third option is a hot war where we lose because of foreign involvement. Not only are we much more likely to die in this engagement, but the globalist boot will come down with such a viciousness that those on the right who survive may hope that they had died in the war.

And the fourth option is the long divorce, one that we will easily win if the recommendations I made above are taken. Very few people die and life can proceed with high stability and prosperity for the majority of the country.

The globalist left has so damaged the country from the decades they’ve been in power that there is no quick fix, and those of us who are alive today will likely not see a resolution that can be argued as “complete victory” during our lifetimes. I understand the frustration that many on the right have, and the desire they have to be immediately cured of poisons that the left has unleashed, but we must carefully analyze any outcome that results in the deaths of our loved ones and even ourselves. There is a time and place to die for what you believe in, but I hope I have convinced you that we have not yet reached that critical moment and that we can avoid the downsides of a hot civil war and the globalist boot by taking on the option of the long divorce to still win in the end.

The laws we have on the books are enough—let’s enforce those and allow the country to focus on itself instead of empire building and policing while the media and universities collapse upon the weight of their own lies and degeneracy. Besides, the entertainment value in watching the left screech and yell for the next several decades is sure to bring us reams of pleasure. That’s a better outcome than outright war.

Roosh, Roosh V 7 Comments [4/28/2017 1:51:01 PM]
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If you read scripture you will see polygamy is condemend everytime its brought up :)

Reason, Patheos 7 Comments [4/28/2017 2:05:04 PM]
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