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Quote# 141298

Anyone else noticed how pussy-whipped Leftist our country has taken since the mid-terms?

It's as if 2016 never existed!

This demographic shift in the electorate towards products of single mothers, feminists, faggots, dykes, gender-benders, man-children and weak men are taking over right before our eyes.

For all those on the "Right" who were complacent, enjoy your future of faggotry!

#Ghost

Ghost, Gab 9 Comments [11/20/2018 12:56:03 PM]
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Quote# 141297

HOW MUSIC IS USED TO CAST SPELLS!

Music can be used to cast spells. This is how they do it.

A Call For An Uprising, Youtube 6 Comments [11/20/2018 12:55:15 PM]
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Quote# 141291

The Bible teaches in 1st Timothy 6:8 that we ought to be content with having just food and clothing. This is not a very popular teaching nowadays in America's materialistic society. There have been numerous songs, videos, and children's toy commercials lately featuring the selfish phrase, “I want it all.” The average American child is a spoiled brat nowadays, arrogant, defiant, and brainwashed to hate Christianity in a hateful and ingrate society that loves sin.

If you really stop and think about all the things we pay for in America, we don't need most of them. The definition of “greed” is “the desire to acquire or possess more than one needs or deserves.” We all deserve to burn in Hell; but McDonalds thinks you deserve a break today. People don't need a TV, nor do they need a cellphone, nor do they need a new car, nor do they need all the electronic toys on the market today. What you do need is a King James Bible.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 10 Comments [11/20/2018 12:47:17 PM]
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Quote# 141288

Family Friendly Gaming, the industry leader in covering the family friendly video games is answering an important question. Are we Moral Guardians? Is Family Friendly Gaming a Moral Guardian? What do you think? The quick and easy answer is we are not Moral Guardians. We freely give out opinions that show diversity of thought from the corrupt gaming media outlets, and the radicals trying to make this industry extremely liberal. In fact if there is any websites claiming we are Moral Guardians you might want to look closely at them. My experience is these accusers are the real Moral Guardians.

Our standardized approach to the video game industry based on honesty, transparency, and hope is a threat to any hardcore haters. There are also those that hate us because we submit to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Persecution against Christians has been around for a long time. There are also those who hate us because they perceive us as being conservative. In reality we are moderates politically. When they keep trying to redefine the scale to move it farther and farther to the left they then are guilty of attempting to redefine us. Family Friendly Gaming has stood up against the redefinition movement for a long time now.

We do not hide our lights. We are open and honest about who we are. We give our opinions on entertainment based on the foundation of the Holy Bible. Our opinions on a particular product should have no impact on your enjoyment of it. If you feel guilty about objectifying women, spreading hatred, spreading violence, or some other evil that is between you and God. We are not judging you. Doctors tell you certain things are bad for your health. You then make the choice to listen or to ignore. We do not brow beat anyone into making choices that are better for their eternal souls. We give you the information and you decide.

Family Friendly Gaming brings a lot of diversity of thought to the extremely slanted and imbalanced video game media outlets. We are constantly looking at products from a variety of different perspectives. We present those in a professional manner that you can embrace and celebrate, or ignore. The attempts to silence us from real and true Moral Guardians does harm to the entire video game industry. I expect these emotional toddlers to throw a tantrum when this article is published.

I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day

Paul Bury, Family Friendly Gaming 12 Comments [11/19/2018 7:58:11 PM]
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Submitted By: Sammettik

Quote# 141296

f000k CA. Let it burn, let all the leftists burn in hell. That is the Christian way

daibon Ten, Breitbart 8 Comments [11/20/2018 12:54:10 PM]
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Submitted By: Bob J

Quote# 139016

How the rightful heir to the throne of England can be restored to the throne.

I realized that since the legal system in the UK has the monarch give royal assent to laws passed, it would be impossible to use the system to change the monarchy.

Because of that, I propose that the secret organization, infiltrates the US government having members of the organization becoming President and members of Congress, so that the US government can use the CIA to kidnap a child heir to the throne from the line of primogeniture to raise to become King or Queen and invade the United Kingdom to put that person on the throne(of course if the heir is still a child, when it happens, there will be a regent until the monarch comes of age).

Jacob Harrison, FSTDT Forums 225 Comments [7/22/2018 2:28:56 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 44291

{note: I looked for this quote on the site. Couldn't find it. If this has already been posted then never mind. As your may be aware, asexuality or non sexuality is an often ignored sexual orientation in which a person has no sexual feelings for either gender.)

"Question: What do you call a person who is asexual? Answer: Not a person. Asexual people do not exist. Sexuality is a gift from God and thus a fundamental part of our human identity. Those who repress their sexuality are not living as God created them to be: fully alive and well. As such, they're most likely unhappy people with which to live."

David Nantais, S.J. and Scott Opperman, S.J., N/A 65 Comments [8/6/2008 4:52:37 PM]
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Submitted By: 343panic

Quote# 124941

A poll says that 1 in 4 say Obama’s may be, … and 1 in 8 says for sure, Obama’s…. the Antichrist.–

I’m revealing the Apocalypse which is that Obama’s the Antichrist. I’m Buddhist of the highest form of culture in the world Tibetan Tantric Buddhism. It’s right that I be Buddhist and not Christian because Jesus himself said no Christians would be saved in the end times and so he would return for the Second Coming but not as a Christian. He said “Don’t follow anyone coming in my name (aka “as a Christian”) in the Apocalypse.” My message is right because I reveal that in my faith’s Apocalypse prophecy of Kalachakra it says the Antichrist will have all the precise features of Barack Hussein Obama!

Born in the USA to US-Norwegian parents and we moved to France when I was 7. Schooled in French, I studied Tibetan language and culture (Paris University). I did an eight-month meditation-retreat upon the deity Naljorma. Then 28 years of post-university research upon the Tibetan Apocalypse deity Kalachakra. My life turned around when I realized that 666 was drawn in the lottery of Obama’s hometown the next day after his election which makes him the most probable candidate for Antichrist that history has ever seen and ever will see.

(I’m a 45-year religious Buddhist. The Christian Apocalypse is outside my field. But I am alone to reveal that Obama’s the Antichrist by relying upon the 666 omen found in Obama’s hometown’s Lottery.

Why am I nevertheless involved in the Christian Apocalypse? Because it’s linked to my own Buddhist Apocalypse prophecy Kalachakra and here is that reason: – so as also to explain away criticism from the forces who support Obama – here is the reason… I use the Christian word “Antichrist” because the Buddhist Apocalypse prophecy “Kalachakra” predicts the announced evil Demon-King Krinmati. The Buddhist Kalachakra will thus combat that partly Christian demon: Obama the Antichrist. Obama indeed, has a varied creed of all and many faiths which are all mixed together. The Kalachakra prophecy doesn’t predict the coming of the Messiah nor Jesus but the coming of the King of Shambhala, me, the World Saviour [from the Buddhist perspective].)

King Of Shambhala, Before It's News 29 Comments [2/26/2017 7:58:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Hu's On First

Quote# 141294

Martin: On the contrary, homosexuality breaks Jesus' command not to lead others into sin. Adultery destroys the joining of the man and woman in marriage.

Peter: Jesus said all morality towards others is founded on agape love. Unfaithfulness breaks that. Either he was right or he wasn't.

Martin : 'Agape love' means you don't entice others into sin, which is what homosexuality is. You clearly hate homosexuals.

Martin, Premier 2 Comments [11/20/2018 12:51:15 PM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 13645

I ordered 1,400 (Chick Tracts) and I carry about 50 at once in my purse, and just leave them in gas station rest room, on the aisles in between products at the grocery store, and at bank drive-throughs in the little thing that holds all the forms.

WhiteH2OWoman, Rapture Ready 52 Comments [8/7/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Tak, the Hideous New Girl

Quote# 141226

This is both stupid and demonic. There is no such place as purgatory and those who died without Christ are doomed to eternal torment for all eternity.

Doug Bristow, Christian News Network 21 Comments [11/19/2018 12:55:34 PM]
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Submitted By: Bob J

Quote# 141270

This is the wrath of God at work. California is full of illegals, dope addicts, homosexuals, atheists, communists, Hollywood perverts and other sinners that earned the fate of being cast into God's lake of fire. If those people had spent more time in church worshiping Jesus Christ instead of doing their sick perverted sinning none of that would be happening now.

Geri Balistreri, Breitbart 15 Comments [11/12/2018 1:39:52 AM]
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Submitted By: Bob J

Quote# 141233

More proof that Christianity is true.

Last night I had a nightmare of there being a shooting. Today I found out that there was a shooting at a bar in California. God gave me the dream so that I could prove that Christianity is true. How do you explain the fact that I had a dream of a shooting before I found out about an actual one that happened?

Jacob Harrison, FSTDT Forums 21 Comments [11/12/2018 12:27:14 AM]
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Quote# 141282

Lauren Daigle: Critics of 'The Ellen DeGeneres Show' Appearance 'Completely Missed the Heart of God'

...The Christian artist appeared on the mainstream show Oct. 24 and received criticism on social media over her involvement. Most of the critics argued Daigle was wrong to appear on the show because Ellen is a lesbian.

“I think the second we start drawing lines around which people are able to be approached and which aren't, we've already completely missed the heart of God,” Daigle told WAY-FM Radio.

“I don't have all the answers in life and I'm definitely not gonna act like I do, but the one thing that I know for sure is I can't choose who I'm supposed to be kind to and who I'm supposed to show love to and who I'm not, because that's the mission right?" she continued. "Be who Christ was to everyone.”

SOURCE: https://www.christianpost.com/news/lauren-daigle-critics-ellen-degeneres-show-appearance-completely-missed-the-heart-of-god-228354/


First of all, Daigle is NO Christian! As I showed you earlier, nowhere in her vague testimony does she even mention the cross upon which Christ died. She doesn't mention the Gospel at all. No one has ever been saved apart from faith alone in the Gospel. That is, the Good News of Jesus Christ crucified to death on the cross, buried, and bodily risen the third day (1st Corinthians 15:1-6).

Second, Miss Daigle uses love as an excuse to show support for homosexuality. It is very wrong for any professed Christian to appear on a lesbian's show. By doing so, Lauren endorses the Ellen DeGeneres Show, which is why Ellen praised her. You see, the homosexual community want to be accepted by the Christian community in their unrepentant state, which is as evil as the sins of abortion or adultery. Homosexuality is a filthy deathstyle, against nature and gross sin! Albeit, I do believe that homosexuals CAN still be saved.

Third, it is utter wickedness and foolishness for Lauren to say that critics of her appearance on the Ellen DeGeneres Show
“Completely miss the heart of God.” What a sinful thing to say!!! No, Lauren Daigle doesn't know God! The God of the Holy Bible is a holy God, Who does not cater to sinners, does not hobnob with the world. What saith the Scripture? James 4:4, “Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.” According to the Scriptures, Miss Daigle is an ENEMY OF GOD! We all have our faults. We are all sinners. I do not condemn anybody. God's law in the Holy Bible condemns all humanity, which brings physical death (Romans 5:12), and then eternal damnation in Hell (Revelation 20:15)! Lauren is God's enemy, yet she falsely accuses faithful Christians of missing God's love. Lauren is either woefully or willfully ignorant of the Scriptures!!!

Lauren speaks as a fool, because she is one! She says the believer's “mission” is to love everyone, but the Bible never says that. Although it is true that a Christian who is right with God will love everyone, love does not allow sinful compromise! it is not love what Lauren is doing by promoting her music on a queer television show. In fact, she loves the world, not the Lord Jesus Christ! The Bible commands every believer not to love the world, nor the things in the world (1st John 2:15-17), but to come out from among them and be ye separate (2nd Corinthians 6:14-17). If Lauren wanted to appear on Ellen's ungodly show, she never should have defended her actions, which is why I wrote this article. We all do wrong sometimes, but I'm not going to make excuses for it!

What Lauren did was wrong, period. Ellen DeGeneres is an ungodly heathen who is married to another lesbian, living in open defiance against a holy God. Do you really think that ungodly people who masquerade as Christians, appearing on Ellen's show, is going to win the sodomites to Christ? Not a chance in a million!!! The world is becoming more churchy these days, because the churches are becoming so worldly. That is way Pastor Steven Furtick of the Elevation Church in North Carolina leads his congregation jamming to Joan Jett's infamous song, “I Love Rock N' Roll,” on his electric guitar. That is of the Devil! Worldly people love a worldly pastor and a worldly church, but that is not Bible Christianity!!! John 7:7, “The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.”

A believer who truly walks with God abides continually in the Word of God, which we have in the inspired King James Bible. These modern Bible versions are all of the Devil! And a believer who abides in God's Word and loves the Lord, hates evil. Psalms 97:10, “Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.”

I did not write and publish this article to be unkind, but to shed light on the truth that there is nothing even remotely Christian about Lauren Daigle's testimony as given to the Salvation Army (which I shared with you earlier). And also, to expose the lies of Lauren Daigle on the Ellen DeGeneres Show, denouncing those who rightly criticized her for appearing on Ellen's ungodly show. Miss DeGeneres is an ungodly icon in the ungodly homosexual community, who is relentless doing her best to promote the ungodly abomination of sodomy. I sound like Jude (read the book of Jude and see how many times he mentions the word “ungodly”).

Lauren Daigle is ungodly too! Her opinions as expressed on Ellen's show are totally worldly and unscriptural. Love speaks the truth! Pastor Steven Anderson is considered to be a hatemonger by the ungodly world, for denouncing the homosexual community. Although I know that God loves everyone, including unrepentant homosexuals, I also know that God equally hates all sin! God hates homosexuality! If God hates homos, then He also hates the gossiper, the adulterer, the covetous person, the drunkard and the unjust critic!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 21 Comments [11/13/2018 5:16:06 PM]
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Quote# 141272

Autists are pussy pampered wastes of life that are a burden on their families and American society in general. Hence, you and your proud obsession with a cartoon intended for little girls. People like you are a defect and should be put on a list so civil society can avoid you all.

Ghost, Gab 16 Comments [11/19/2018 7:53:34 PM]
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Quote# 141277

The Oxford comma is a comma used after the second to last item in a list of three or more items.

Why is the Oxford comma necessary?


WITH OXFORD COMMA: "I love my parents, Ronald McDonald, and Swiss cheese."

WITHOUT OXFORD COMMA: "I love my parents, Ronald McDonald and Swiss cheese."

Did Ronald McDonald and Swiss cheese birth a child? Clearly atheistic liberals who believe that women can become men, humans evolved from apes, and Taylor Swift is a good role model clearly believe enough nonsensical hocus pocus to find such a scenario possible.

Steven R., SimplyChristian  21 Comments [11/19/2018 7:54:02 PM]
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Quote# 55685

Tony, I would very much appreciate if you posted any link to science which disproves his word. Keep in mind, that is not easy to do. Soil layers have the same problem anything else does, how do you prove it was not created that way.
My main problem with evolution is that it supposes all this mathematical, physical, and scientific complexity was accidental... chaos itself is not really chaos, but all the incredibly complex things science has shown us just happened to end up that way? That sir, is one damn huge leap of faith.

lordmorgul, wired 21 Comments [1/5/2009 2:38:59 PM]
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Quote# 141250

I was being prepped for surgery. I had called Dr. Rebecca Rosemann and asked if what to do with my wallet, whether I needed an ID, et cetera. She said to bring my wallet and ID and that the hospital would put it securely in a safe during my surgery. What she didn't tell me is that some thug security guard would violate my person and privacy, empting my wallet piece-by-piece, writing every item of content down. I felt like I was being raped. The operating room technicians had already put about 40 wires on my body, preparing the monitoring equipment for surgery. When I was married, my wife wouldn't even go into my wallet, because she felt awkward going into my personal stuff. That is how she felt. She respected my person. That is the way we ought to treat each other.

The ungodly Caucasian security guard at Cedars-Sinai didn't ask for my permission. He just opened my wallet and started removing items, one by one. What a selfish person! As he would remove and look at the dozens of cards and items, he would sometimes look at me, like he was analyzing each item and forming an opinion. I was being prepped for surgery, so my brain wasn't as aware as I normally would have been. I had never been in a situation like that before. I am still hurt and upset about what happened. I love God's promise in Matthew 7:1-2 and verse 12, to judge men according to how they treat others. I pray for God to avenge me of that wicked insensitive security guard. No doubt he would say he was just “doing his job,” like Herod's henchman who murdered thousands of innocent little children (they were just doing their job too!).

At a minimum, the guard should have asked for my permission, and explained to me what he was required to do, not just rape me! I was sitting right there, fully conscious, and he could have shown me a little respect. Instead, in typical thug guard fashion, he just did whatever he wanted with zero respect for me as a human being. That man brought shame upon his mother and father, evidencing that they raised a careless, brute, inconsiderate, brat for a boy. Some of the worse evils in this world are done by irresponsible people who claim to just be “doing their job.” Just because something is your job doesn't make it right to abuse others, humiliate them, nor does it give you the right to be a heartless thug! People have feelings. Monsters are real! I have nothing good to say about Cedars-Sinai Hospital. Please don't get surgery there people of Guam! Cedars-Sinai Hospital is so popular with Hollywood celebrities that the hospital owners couldn't care less about the little guy, the common man, the average Joe, nobodies like me!

Matthew 25:40, “And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.”


That ungodly security guard emotionally raped me in the hospital that day. I was very distressed. My heart was crushed. While in surgery, the emotional trauma from what the guard did affected me. After the surgery, the operating room nurse said that my heart was racing at top speed, and they had to slow it down. I am fully convinced to this day that it was the emotional trauma inflicted by that insensitive, thug, bastard security guard at Cedars-Sinai Hospital that caused my heart to race 100 miles an hour during surgery. I HAD BEEN RAPED! That is exactly how I felt. I pray for God to avenge me, and I want to see that guard held accountable before God on Judgment Day. I pray dear Lord Jesus Christ, please, that it would be so!

David J. Stewart, Love the Truth 16 Comments [11/12/2018 12:37:30 AM]
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Quote# 86082

Reasons why Atheism is TERRIBLE and unhealthy for our children and living things!

† Atheism makes you stupid, ignorant & blind.
† Atheism is a disease that needs to be treated.
† Atheism makes you post stupid things.
† Atheist are satanic and have gothic lifestyle.
† Atheists are mentally ill, that's why they have no faith.
† Atheism won't take you to kingdom of heaven and paradise.
† Atheism making you agree with Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot & other terrible mass murder leaders.
† No traditional family lifestyle, boring and feeling 'outsider'.
† Atheist try to convert people over internet because they feel "safer" behind closet.
† Atheists do not really exist, they just pretend that they don't believe in God and argue with religious people.
† Atheists have had terrible life experience, bad childhood and not being loved.
† Most Atheists are uneducated... No Atheists could run for presidency.
† Atheism brought upon the French Revolution, one of the most evil events of all of history.
† Atheism cannot explain the origins of the universe, therefore God exists.
† All atheists believe in evolution, which means they don't believe in morality and think we should all act like animals.
† The Bible says atheism is wrong, and the Bible is always right (see: Genesis 1:1, Psalms 14:1, Psalms 19:1, Romans 1:19-20)
† Atheism have no holidays, no culture, no nothing. Waste of living in this planet...

†† Our Prayers goes to Atheists to be healthy and seek their creator ††

Atheism = Nazism = Horrible (WARNING!), CNN.com 92 Comments [2/17/2012 4:30:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Another Steve

Quote# 81901

And by the way: the dinosaurs didn’t all die. Noah must have taken some with them. They show up in too many works of ancient and “native” art. And some of them are alive today.

We’ve got a pod of them in Lake Champlain, Vermont, and the Canadians have them in Lake Okanagan, BC. There was a pod of them in Loch Ness, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re all dead by now, because that lake is so disgustingly polluted.

We had dragons throughout Western Europe, until the medieval knights hunted them to extinction. The dragons in China lasted a little longer; Marco Polo saw one of them.

Terry Hurlbut, Conservative News and Views 91 Comments [6/13/2011 2:54:06 AM]
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Submitted By: PsyGremlin

Quote# 141201

Certainly, there are saved and unsaved people in every nation; but some nations are so saturated with false religion that nearly all of them are going to Hell. Acts 17:27 teaches us that the reason why God scattered mankind at the Tower of Babel was so they they would “seek the Lord.” Before Babel, the entire world became corrupted, so bad, so fast, that God decided to destroy the world by flood. When Noah and his family got off the ark, they were all Christians. But it was just a matter of time before the world once again went into utter wickedness, and Noah's descendants forsook God.

As hard as it is to imagine, entire nations will be cast into the Lake of Fire. It will be very sad in eternity, when an entire culture is cast into Hell forever. So many people are going to Hell because don't love God more than their own family and nation. This is why Jesus taught that a man must hate his own family (Luke 14:26), in comparison to his love for God. Jesus was teaching that we ought to obey God above all else (Romans 3:4). I know people who won't come out of the Catholic Church because they love their family more than God. It is evil. I know people who won't go soul-winning, because they love this present world (2nd Timothy 4:10). Hardly anyone loves God anymore.

All of the Arab nations today are predominantly Muslim, following the false religion of Islam. Those nations will all be cast into Hell. Only those few individuals who have been born-again in Jesus Christ will be spared the wrath of God in Hell fire. Romans 5:9, “Much more then, being now justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.” Only through faith in the blood of Jesus Christ can anyone be saved from the wrath of God the Father.

The Bible proclaims in Psalm 9:17 that the wicked and ALL THE NATIONS THAT FORGET GOD shall be turned into Hell.

1st John 2:22 plainly teaches that anyone who denies Jesus is the Christ is a LIAR. Anyone who teaches and follows ANOTHER GOSPEL is going to Hell (2nd Corinthians 11:4). The perverted Gospel of the Catholic religion is demonic. As much as I try to warn people and wake them up, most people don't listen. They are fools headed for destruction in Hell.

Sad, but true, entire nations are so wicked and rebellious against the truth that hardly any of them are born-again Christians. I'm not saying that there aren't Christians in every nation; but the number is so few that 99% of it's inhabitants are going to Hell. I'm just preaching the Bible.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 19 Comments [11/16/2018 9:51:28 PM]
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Quote# 141196

At The American, AEI resident scholar Andrew Biggs highlights an interesting study that confirms what most conservatives probably already know to be true of themselves: We understand why our liberal friends think what they think more than they understand why we think what we think.

[University of Virginia professor Jonathan] Haidt’s research asks individuals to answer questionnaires regarding their core moral beliefs—what sorts of values they consider sacred, which they would compromise on, and how much it would take to get them to make those compromises. By themselves, these exercises are interesting. (Try them online and see where you come out.)

But Haidt’s research went one step further, asking self-indentified conservatives to answer those questionnaires as if they were liberals and for liberals to do the opposite. What Haidt found is that conservatives understand liberals’ moral values better than liberals understand where conservatives are coming from. Worse yet, liberals don’t know what they don’t know; they don’t understand how limited their knowledge of conservative values is. If anyone is close-minded here it’s not conservatives.

Haidt has one theory to explain his results, while Biggs has another. Haidt says conservatives speak a broader and more encompassing language of six moral values, while liberals focus on a narrow subset of those values. Biggs says conservatives understand liberal positions because they’re inundated with them — by the media, by academia, even to a certain extent by the culture.

Haidt and Biggs both have a point. It takes just about a year of actively debating politics or witnessing the debate of politics to realize that (a) the two parties to the debate don’t speak the same language and (b) the liberal party will have few opportunities to learn the conservative’s language. It’s not only that we don’t use the same words, it’s that we also assign completely different meanings to the same words.

The president’s prattling about the Buffett Rule is a perfect example. He repeatedly uses the word “fair” when he discusses this rule that would require anyone who earns more than $1 million a year to pay at least 30 percent in taxes. The Buffett Rule is actually officially named “The Paying a Fair Share Act.”

Conservatives have been quick to cede the word “fair” to the president. Instead of debating whether The Buffett Rule actually is fair, we’ve focused on the idea that economic growth and entitlement reform are the keys to deficit reduction. We know that our definition of “fair” is different than liberals’ definition of “fair,” so we’re never going to be able to convince liberals that the Buffett Rule actually is unfair. In a world dominated by liberal influences in the media, academy and culture, we have no choice but focus on the fact that The Buffett Rule would do very little to reduce the deficit.

If liberals understood the conservative definition of “fair,” they might better understand how it’s possible to oppose the Buffett Rule. As the debate stands at this moment, it’s conceivable that the average liberal thinks conservatives actually oppose a rule we think is fair just because we don’t think it will adequately reduce the deficit. But why would anybody oppose a fair rule? In fact, we oppose the Buffett Rule because, by our definition, it is unfair — not to mention that it does very little to reduce the deficit. (As an aside, I’ve been searching for an article in which a conservative argues explicitly that the Buffett Rule is unfair and am finding it surprisingly hard to find. Has anybody read a good one?)

The word “just” is defined as “based on right.” Our concept of what is fair starts with our concept of what is a right. Whereas progressives think that rights are given by the government, conservatives think that “we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights.” Among our God-given rights is the right to keep the fruits of our labor. So far, I have never heard a good argument that we have a right or a claim to the fruits of others’ labor unless they have promised them to us for some reason. We certainly never have an intrinsic a priori claim on the fruits of someone else’s labor.

As long as he is allowed to keep what he has earned, the conservative thinks he has been treated fairly — even if others have more than he has. The liberal has a completely different definition of fairness. Liberals seem to think we have a right to the same fruits no matter what our labor.

It is true that different kinds and quantities of work yield different kinds and quantities of fruits. That is sometimes hard to take — but if, in the end, we receive the fruits we agreed to when we selected our labor, then the fruits we receive are fair. (For example, if we agree to a particular day’s wages and we receive that day’s wages, then we have been treated fairly. Nobody changed the deal to which we agreed.) In making the choice to be a secretary and not a hedge fund manager, for example, the secretary forgoes some of the fruits of the hedge fund manager — but obtains some fruits the hedge fund manager never tastes, say the fruit of more time to spend with family or the fruit of less stress. If we are not content with the fruits of our labor, perhaps we ought first to consider changing our labor, rather than demand we be given different fruits.

One last thought: Conservatives clearly have a more expansive view of what constitutes “fruits.” We do not measure success and fairness solely by money. In the example above, I recognize the worth of time off and less pressure — two intangibles. For all that liberals like to talk about conservative greed, it’s interesting that conservatives can content themselves with less money in exchange for other benefits whereas liberals seem blind to those benefits and just want the money.

Tina Korbe, Hot Air 12 Comments [11/16/2018 9:50:46 PM]
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Quote# 141206

Today's Laugh 11-5-18



TRANSCRIPTION: CNN newscaster reports: "President Trump has called out the military on impoverished women and children who want a better life."

Sign in background reads:
All the news*
All the time**

* - that is, all the news we can spin against Trump. The rest is ignored.
** - this part is true - honest!


Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 15 Comments [11/16/2018 9:57:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 55526

A PERSON WHO DENIES the existence of God is smarter than Einstein? Washington, Columbus ?....Ben Franklin? Scripture records, A FOOL Says there IS no God?..........my son used to say that and I explained what a foolish argument it was.........And I Said to Him say you do not know........or you don't feel close to Him Do Not Add lying to your other sins.....you can not truly believe there is no God unless you are a fool ,and you are smart, therefore lying to the world and to yourself. DENIAL. A person can know there is a God but there is no evidence that there is no God

bluescityleon, city-data.com 46 Comments [1/4/2009 5:04:48 PM]
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Submitted By: shutterbug

Quote# 55474

("Grow up and start thinking and learning for yourselves.")

I am a well-educated and well-researched man and those statements by you show you look at us as stupid and uneducated. Mankind has arrogantly decided to lean on their own understanding of science alone as the end-all way to view the world and religion. Foolish indeed! The day you do that is the day you end up with a Godless view like you have. I believe the reason most atheists are atheists is because they do not WANT to believe in God so they can have no obligation to other people or to God.

al1967dude, Youtube 37 Comments [1/4/2009 6:27:11 PM]
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Submitted By: Janta
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