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Quote# 139864

It effects the break down of the societal understanding of what marriage should be. Civil societies cannot be sustained without the Judeo-Christian understanding of marriage and families. It is like trying to use a toy train as a submarine. It doesn't work as it is far from God's design for the family. You cannot change the design established by the designer and expect it will work.

Revmitchell, Baptistboard 6 Comments [8/17/2018 11:13:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Hilda

Quote# 139834

Do you think it's a simple ordeal to be crucified? Jesus lived for thirty three years likely knowing he would be subject to an agonizing death. He came to earth knowing what had to he done.

He also left a perfect existence in Heaven with his father, to descend to a grimy, tortuous world.

Do you, question asker, think you could say, it's only an extended period of torture, but I'll get through it? Do you think, as a father, you could watch your son be tortured by sadists, when you have the power to wipe them out? Could you love these people, ask your father to forgive them while they torture you?

The aspect we commonly see, is only the physical pain, which is bad enough. There's so much more, I'm completely sure, that had to make it much worse for Jesus that we can't even understand. He was pure, perfect, innocent - taking all sin upon himself. We can't know what that feels like to perfect God. And... I can't possibly know this, but maybe Jesus will always have those scars in his hands and feet?

Finally, no matter how hard it is to accept something more important than ourselves... Jesus is eternally superior to us in worth, even though he shares his glory with us, his blood. We can't compare Jesus with anything man has done. Any terrible thing that has happened to man, any good thing a human has done, it can't compare to one iota Jesus has suffered, it can't compare to one step Jesus takes out of heaven for us. Jesus is deserving of all glory and praise, we are deserving of death. Yet still Jesus came down and let himself be tortured, he gave his life through us. God, who rules over all, who has perfect joy, who doesn't know time or inability, became subject to pain, became the suffering servant. He owes nothing to us. Yet he sacrificed his son in love.

Lest you think I can't empathize, I've asked this question before. I've struggled with it. I still can't understand how much Jesus really did sacrifice himself ultimately.

But when your next sacrifice comes along, think about this. Would you be able to go through with something, that literally makes you sweat blood in knowing what horrible pain is to come?

Timothy Lokker, Quora 13 Comments [8/16/2018 3:51:21 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 139873

Muslims get upset when people say their religion is violent. Sometimes they get so upset that blow people up, run them over in vans or otherwise inflict gruesome deaths upon them. All this to prove Islam isn’t violent.

It’s a similar story when you accuse Jews of being disloyal to their country, “their country” in this case being defined as the country they are living in or whose citizenship status they hold. Sometimes they get so upset that they threaten to leave, or do actually leave, the country concerned. Thus proving they are truly loyal.

czakal, Wordpress 4 Comments [8/17/2018 11:14:45 AM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Instant happy, just add pedophilia!

Award for discovering new horizons of creepy-crazy

Quote# 139859

That being said, pedophilia is still something that should be legalized. Bonobo mothers use it to calm their children when they're getting out of hand (unlike we humans, who use violence). Human morphology suggests a greater extent of this behavior due to our lowered sexual dimorphism and neotenous traits. If it's approached from a parenting practice and contrasted against the violent tactics we use now, I think it could gain acceptance, and rightly so. People have failed to divorce destructive pedophilia from benevolent pedophilia for too long. It's like conflating sex and rape. The logic is there, people just need to take a moment to consider it.

I am arguing that sexual interactions between adults and children should be acceptable under the premise that they are not inherently harmful interactions and indeed are likely to be less destructive than, for example, using violence to control children when they get out of hand.


Let me ask you. What is your end goal?


The goal is to shift people away from the chimpanzee-like violence-as-a-means-to-everything mindset that we've cultured over the last 15,000 years+, and towards the bonobo-like let's-just-love mindset. A lot of our problems, as a society, come from weak social support networks. Increasing pair bonding via sex will strengthen those networks, and in turn we will see a decline in violence and violent crime, bigotry, hatred, and a vast landscape of actually destructive behaviors.

underverse, MMO Champion 10 Comments [8/17/2018 1:39:47 AM]
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Quote# 47541

I don't care what the "situation" is as you call it. Murder is murder. Plain and simple. Lets get real honest here. The term "pro-choice" is just candy coating abortion. Those that say abortion is ok are not "pro-choice" because the baby has "no-choice". Lets call it what it is. "Pro-death".

John Coffey, Topix 64 Comments [9/16/2008 4:59:43 AM]
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Submitted By: PeterGriffin

Quote# 139881

A Missouri Republican who has made anti-Semitic and other bigoted statements handily won a primary for the state’s House of Representatives.

Steve West, who promotes anti-Semitic conspiracy theories on a radio show he hosts, defeated three other candidates Tuesday in the bid for a seat representing Clay County. He won with 49.5 percent of the vote; the second-place finisher had 24.4 percent.

“Looking back in history, unfortunately, Hitler was right about what was taking place in Germany. And who was behind it,” West said on KCXL radio in January 2017, The Kansas City Star reported Thursday.

He has spoken of “Jewish cabals” that are “harvesting baby parts” from Planned Parenthood, abuse children and control the Republican Party. West also has a YouTube channel on which he has made homophobic, anti-Semitic, Islamophobic and racist statements, according to The Star.

West will face Democratic incumbent Jon Carpenter in November.

On Thursday, the Missouri Republican Party denounced West’s “shocking and vile” comments.

“West’s abhorrent rhetoric has absolutely no place in the Missouri Republican Party or anywhere. We wholeheartedly condemn his comments,” the party told The Star.

Reached by The Star, West said his comments were taken out of context, but went on to criticize both Judaism and Islam.

“Jewish people can be beautiful people, but there’s ideologies associated with that that I don’t agree with,” he said. “Jews today are a remnant of the tribe of Judah that rejected Christ.”

Steve West, The Jerusalem Post 1 Comments [8/17/2018 3:17:06 PM]
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Submitted By: pyro

Quote# 139865

I didn't quite understand that...but here is my interpretation of what I think you said...The happiest mind is the healthiest mind and the healthiest mind is the one where all the air, blood, nutrients and thoughts are gurgling through our minds pathways in a healthy way. The not-so-lucky have all sorts of mental problems, so it is easy for me to say that an open-mind, as delivered by Biblical teaching, and especially Jesus Christ, is a way of recovering from a multifaceted problem that is creating havoc in the whole world today and for which there is a ready cure in the form of the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ....remember...the Catholic church...the Samaritans. and Sigmund Freud, all harnessed the teaching of Jesus Christ, by way of talking to someone about our problems, when all that is really necessary is talking to Almighty God, via the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ.

NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 5 Comments [8/17/2018 11:13:30 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 47198

On the Large Hadron Collider

I would have been more interested to see what would happen if they spend that much money and effort honoring the Lord Jesus Christ. This project is a giant testimony to the ego of man, and its creation is similar to the building of the tower of babel. Having spent most of my life as an engineer, this attitude is new to me. But technology is only good if it benefits man. My life work pretty much benefitted Bill Gates. In retrospect, I wish I had spent my life helping people in a more meaningful way. When I get to heaven, I want to say more for myself than, I wrote a bunch of drivers. These scientists will be able to say, "We build the worlds largest machine". In the end, God will have his way and the project will create as many questions as answers, and faith will still be a virtue. IMHO

An American Christian, boston 56 Comments [9/15/2008 6:19:05 AM]
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Submitted By: worldsend

Quote# 47463

The bible mentions dinosaurs so we know they existed.

ByGraceNotWorks, Gamers4Jesus 45 Comments [9/15/2008 11:26:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Chamale

Quote# 139836

Will You Still Call Me Lord?

Death comes behind the Wind of Change that approaches in the storms I have shown to you. Death comes in the form of war, and in the form of famine, and in the form of plagues, My children. A terrible plague approaches in the storm (Suddenly I felt short of breath, as if something filled my lungs) that will claim many lives.

A time of great sorrows is upon you, America, though you know it not. Even My people who serve Me daily are not prepared for this end. Even My people who walk closely with Me are not prepared to see loved ones gasping and dying in front of them.
Will you rail and shake your fist at Me then? Will you turn your heart away and refuse to believe any longer? What will you feel if you lose everything and everyone from your life?
Will you still call Me Lord?
Will you, like My servant David, bow down and worship Me even when your prayers are not answered?

Glynda Lomax, wings of prophecy 6 Comments [8/16/2018 11:17:31 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

"What The Hell Are You Doing You Motherfukers?" Award

Quote# 139838

Harry Potter is not a Christian story it's about a little boy that survived a voldermort. Which is a very nasty sex crime .look up on the search engines what the sex act called volder Mort is

In the story Harry gets his lighting shaped scar from a magic wand blast.

But once you read what's really going on.

You see Harry Potter is a story about parental murder . child molestation! And really not a story for your little kids to be fantasy and playing!!

?, Y! answers 19 Comments [8/16/2018 11:17:54 AM]
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Quote# 47623

It's always amazing to me when someone says that the Bible cannot be written by God, obviously they haven't read the bible. Since when do the lost read Gods word? but they make outrageous claims that the bible is written my man.

tjplaw, RaptureReady 50 Comments [9/15/2008 12:26:01 PM]
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Submitted By: Tom S. Fox

Quote# 47486

[The poster can be described as a 14 year old conservative christian]


Ok, since marriage is coming up. I believe mariage should between 1 man and 1 women. Like it says in the bible. The question is, is being gay a disease/something your born with? There are arguments for both sides, that are legiment. My point is, why would God put a disorder out there that goes against what is in the Bible? Therefor, it must be a lifestyle, not a disorder.

Arognon, WoW offtopic 58 Comments [9/15/2008 1:11:50 PM]
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Submitted By: worldsend

Quote# 139861

@paperplates:
I think my girlfriend was abused as a child.


So last night I was talking to my girlfriend and she was talking about her ex boyfriends. She had mentioned that she only had two before me, one was five years older and one was three. She then mentioned her she had her first boyfriend at thirteen and I made a joke saying I hope it wasn't the guy who was five years older than you then. Which she replied yes..... So she was 13 and he was 18. I lost it.
.....
To me that is fucked up. No right minded 18 year old should be in a relationship with a 13 year old. To put in perspective, that is a college student with 7th/8th grader.

...

Now the hard part. My girlfriend is now defending this guy. She says he is normal, a nice guy, they were more "friends", there is no way he would have been with another girl like that and that they still keep contact with each other. To me that sounds like the typical manipulative behavior of someone who is a sex offender. To me if feels like she is in denial over the whole thing, while displaying other traits that abuse survivors show such as having zero trust in relationships (she is unbelievably jealous of other girls and constantly thinks I am cheating on her), her self-confidence is non-existent (she is stunningly beautiful but thinks she is ugly and fat at a size 4), she has really bad anxiety and cannot face any sort of confrontation without going silent or trying to redirect the conversation.



@maruh:
well, the first thing which comes to my mind is: I had a girlfriend who was 14 when I was 18. I also had no sex with her..but kissing and stuff was on, like the things she / you described. I was just late in my development, nothing of pedophilia there. Later on, with 15, my gf was pregnant...luckily the father wasnt me (since we hadnt had sex anyway) so that was that...^^



@":
People like you, actually do the most harm in cases like this, by badgering and bullying someone into believing they were abused.

Every study has shown that the damage is caused not by the contact, but by the ensuing chorus of people demanding that the child believe they were abused and to act like they were abused for the amusement of the child's supposed rescuers.

In closing, if you are cared about her, you would end the relationship as you don't have the ability to understand the situation and are too brainwashed by society to accept the fact that 13 year old girls find older men attractive.


We create the problem. here is no reason or evidence to suggest that sexual contact - something inherently beneficial that we've evolved with for millions of years - is inherently bad because it occurs between two people of significantly different ages. Hell, bonobo mothers rub clits with their toddlers - you don't see them being scarred for life, utterly mentally destroyed. It's the echo chamber that forces victimization onto these people that really does the damage, making them into pariahs and removing their agency.


Underverse, MMO Champion 6 Comments [8/17/2018 1:51:43 AM]
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Quote# 137632

Sermon 28: Reviving Masculinity
By Bro. James A. Wilson
"Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, [act] like men, be strong. Let all your things be done with charity."-1 Corinthians 16:13-14
"He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?"-Micah 6:8
"For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God."- 1 Corinthians 11:8-12
Real men are in short supply in the world today. Justin Bieber, Bruce Jenner, Bradley Manning, Michael Jackson, Daniel Roem, Joel Osteen, and other men have become proud in their chronic effeminacy. Liberals are supporting radical feminism, and men who reject masculinity. Some men just act effeminate, but others cross-dress and try to pretend to be women. God clearly saith in Genesis 1:27 that there is only male and female, and this is determined in the womb.
God has a special role for the women, but this isn't the subject of today's sermon.
Masculinity is NOT sitting on your duff and drinking beer and watching sports while eating Wingsteet wings and a meat lovers pizza. Nor is it about fast cars, or whatever else our culture says! TRUE, GODLY, CLASSIC masculinity is that of being a warrior for Christ, saving the unsaved, defending the home and homeland, and living a life of righteousness without sin pleasing Almighty God above!
In the Episcopal, Lutheran, Methodist, Roman Catholic, Southern Baptist and other fake "churches" there are effeminate fake men who love their pristinely trimmed beards, moisturized skin, avocado toast, high voiced "contemporary Christian music," Starbucks lattes, and skinny jeans! SUCH IS VILE SEWAGE AND AN ABOMINATION UNTO THE LORD!!!!! THERE IS NO PLACE FOR SUCH DEGENERACY IN THE HOUSE OF GOD!!!!!! SYNAGOGUES OF SATAN ALLOW MEN TO BE SO THOROUGHLY EFFEMINATE!
Plus, most "pastors" these days shy away from HARD PREACHING, biblical language, the KJV, and other things found in NTBC! It is only a few places today where people can get true Biblical realities preached by those who are REAL MEN! Not effeminate sissies or women like in other "churches" these days.
To conclude, we need to allow men to be throughly masculine in our churches and homes, and stop drugging boys with Ritalin to make them behave more like girls! Let boys know it is okay to be a boy, because real men are in a severe shortage in today's society! I saw a man with painted nails and a Taylor Swift phone case going into a synagogue of Satan! The Bible is clear that Christ spits out the lukewarm! Throw out all of the effeminacy and simply let MEN BE MEN AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

James A. Wilson, New Testament Baptist Church 18 Comments [4/2/2018 12:52:51 AM]
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Quote# 139863

[Flying creatures do not defy gravity nor cancel weight. What do you suppose they have wings for?]

Direction at slow speeds. Really dude? Do you really think a bee can turn left, or right, using their wings: at 20+mph? The "BEE LINE" fight is only perfectly straight! Bees balance their flight using their legs at slow speeds. BECAUSE THEY CANCEL THEIR WEIGHT when they fly! It is actually counter balance and NOT balance. So, they cancel weight only to their legs at slow flight so they can control it from flower to flower using their wings. 

However, from hive to flower and, flower to hive, they weight cancel also using their nasal antennas which disrupts the air mass above the bee so that when they weight cancel, they oscillate up and down, unweight and weighting, to go faster and faster, like a surfer on a wave. They aren't flying--THEIR FALLING HORIZONTALLY! I'm the first person, at least in modern history, to figure this out!

If this ability is un-abled for environmental reasons, such as proximity to Cell Towers: the bee is forced to walk! Because it has no ability to fly other then weight cancelation!

Understanding the relationship of the bee's, scope, pedicel and flagellum allows for weight cancelation. But that type of flight sucks! I now this because I have done it! Besides, it could be turned into a weapon of mass destruction if magnified. Better we understand beetles and their weight cancelation coupled with radiant energy deflection away from the pilot. As beetles use electro-magnetic bubbles to fit within an air mass similar to lightning through an air mass. A flight that has NO speed limit, mass or, G-force!

If you want to talk to me about weight cancelation and dragonflies; then we both better understand subsonic sound and CSE. Yet again, their flight sucks and must be repowered using negative energy(from ground to sky) polarized plants. Or, have you never seen them struggling to balance on the point tips of the leaves of flowers, such as lilies? Did you ever wonder why they do that? Well, I did! 

If I'm EVER as dumb as nature: I'll be way smarter than you!

Haipule, Atheistforums.org 9 Comments [8/17/2018 1:54:27 AM]
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Submitted By: SteveW

Quote# 47616

[On "militant atheists"]

Roam through the science section of a book store. There are quite a few out there. Multiple books on the subject. Which amuses me that they would waste so much of their lives dedicated to proving a negative that, according to them, has absolutely no impact on their lives anyways. The most amusing piece for me is that aside from that whole proving a negative problem, they fail their own logic. The very definition of an omnipotent force existing outside of the rules of science pretty much kills science ever being able to prove or disprove its existence. So, they "disprove" the existence of their own concocted definition of God.

Similar to this concept. I can prove right at this moment that I do not have a wizbanglefrat in my hand. Since I get to define what a wizbanglefrat is and it doesn't have to match anyone elses definition of a wizbanglefrat I can indeed state that there is not one in my hand. Then I can proceed to make outlandish statements about anyone who has a differing definition of wizbanglefrat and write numerous books on the subject rather than doing anything actually productive. :)

db32, Slashdot 46 Comments [9/16/2008 2:17:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Imroy

Quote# 47788

"Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information. "Healthy debate is so important and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both. And you know, I say this too as the daughter of a science teacher. Growing up with being so privileged and blessed to be given a lot of information on, on both sides of the subject -- creationism and evolution. It's been a healthy foundation for me. But don't be afraid of information and let kids debate both sides."

Sarah Palin, Anchorage Daily News 61 Comments [9/16/2008 8:33:43 PM]
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Quote# 47438

The Cern particle big bang thing had many scientists from India working
on this thing. They had a statue of the hinda Shiva god present while
they flipped the switch.

I am upset reading this...
come quickly Lord Jesus.

Diamond, Rapture Ready 71 Comments [9/16/2008 11:13:02 PM]
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Submitted By: sooze

Quote# 47659

There is no such things as a 'species' of human. There is only ONE form of human being, that was CREATED BY GOD, IN THE IMAGINE OF GOD.

Apes are NOT human beings, and human beings are NOT apes, no matter what the scientific establishment may say.

They weren't around to observe creation, ergo their THEORIES are not SCIENCE.

DrGarvanEllison, BBC Religion 41 Comments [9/16/2008 11:11:19 PM]
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Quote# 139848

of course victims are to blame to.

for the person with the intent to rape, there has to be a rapee.

this said rapee either:

knowns the rapist and has aroused him/her by acting/talking flirtatious or wearing provocative outfits
doesn't know the rapist and put himself/herself in a stupid situation (i.e: drunk at a party, accepted a beverage from a stranger, walked alone in a dangerous place)
and a few others but i got bored of typing

Wowaccounttom, Reddit 8 Comments [8/17/2018 1:26:31 AM]
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Quote# 139837

Governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, says in a public speech, "America was NEVER great..."

This underscores what I've been saying about Democrats all along; they HATE their own country!

If you vote Democrat in 2018, then you are Anti-America scum; no excuses!

#MAGA #Ghost

https://youtu.be/bJECaXs-pZA

Ghost, Gab 10 Comments [8/16/2018 11:17:37 AM]
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Quote# 139860

f an underage girl pursued an older male and she initiated sex with him and they both consented, enjoyed it, and she was not traumatized by the experience, then is it still wrong, is anyone really hurt, or is there even a victim at all? The same for an underage male pursuing an older female?


On topic, no there's no damage caused. There's no victim. We just have religious/puritan roots and tolerate sexual interactions to only the most necessary degree.

Can't consent according to the law of most civilized countries.

The difference is that 2 16 year olds have a pretty similar power balance, whereas a 16 and a 21 year old have a completely different one.


Power imbalance is inherent to the vast majority of relationships and is actually a good thing in most cases. It increases the risk of abuse, but it also increases the reward for the weaker party as they are able to obtain extensive resources and knowledge through their power imbalance relationship.

When you consider things like attraction, though, power imbalances generally disappear.

the law dictates that kids are complete absolute 100% dumb fucks.

Kids are deemed so stupidly retarded they cant even answer a simple question 'yes or no' regarding sex

Oh but they can. They can consent to sexual activities with other people their age who are, apparently, just as clueless as they are. An then people wonder why teenage pregnancy and STDs are so prevalent.

If anything, age differences in relationships are safety nets.

Besides if any adult decides to mess with my Daughters, regardless of who initiated the contact, they better invest in some soap on a rope. I'll make damn sure that fucker ends up behind bars.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but the parallels with fathers who would say the same thing about a black man 'messing with their daughters' not too long ago are pretty overt.

ut the man opens himself up to a world of hurt should the girl regret her decision, and the law is in place to just give a clear-cut line where it's not any use in saying "but he/she wanted it too!" for the adult. It's to stop adults from taking advantage of young people.


I never understood this argument. When I was younger, I was in a relationship with someone 7 years older than me, for 2 years. I had basically all of the power in that relationship, for a few reasons: one, I could leave whenever I wanted to, and as the object of desire my basis for remaining in the relationship did not involve attraction, but rather behaviors and stability. Two, our culture hates it when older people are in relationships with younger people for some shitty reason, so if anything went wrong I would have the full support of everyone around me. In short, I couldn't be in the wrong, and that gave me a significant amount of power.

If anything, it's the younger person that's taking advantage of the older one. The older one gets some eye candy and maybe fulfills their desire to provide and protect, while resources and knowledge are transferred to the younger one.



The damage people experience as a result of such relationships is largely an outcome of societal condemnation. If you remove a minor's agency and condemn their behaviors - even if they are not responsible for it - you will damage how they view themselves and relationships. That's right - WE are responsible more than the 'perpetrator' of the act for the damage caused by these relationships (in most cases, not all). The only reason I have a solid mental state and positive image of myself and relationships after coming out of that relationship is that I don't give a single fuck about what other people think. I used to, but not anymore after I realized how destructive other people can be just with their opinions, and especially to an underdeveloped mind as my own was when I had to think about these kinds of things at 15.

I want to reduce damage. I also want people to be able to acquire resources and stability if they so choose. Living in a society that condemns relationships with large age differentials and illegalizes them in some cases does neither.

I was in a sexual mentoring relationship with someone significantly older then me. It worked well for me, gave me an edge over my peers, and is party responsible for my success. I'm still good friends with the guy, and though I am not interested in a sexual relationship with him any more he still provides me with guidance. I would not have been able to obtain all of the knowledge and resources I did without the relationship being sexual; it wouldn't have been worth it for him, and I didn't mind/enjoyed it after a few times.


underverse, MMO Champion 2 Comments [8/17/2018 1:47:53 AM]
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Quote# 139839

Human footprints are found alongside dinosaur footprints in the rock formations of the Paluxy riverbed in Texas. This obviously shows that man and dinosaurs lived at the same time and the same place. But evolutionists claim that dinosaurs became extinct about 30 million years before `man` supposedly began to `evolve`.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 9 Comments [8/16/2018 11:17:58 AM]
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Quote# 139842

I don’t think there’s a metaphysical superiority in those qualities, only a material difference in outcome. Also Asians are smarter than whites on average but I don’t want an Asian society replacing the one my people passed on to me. I reject white supremacist as a label because it’s just a slur meant to poison the well rather than a meaningful descriptor. I don’t want to rule over non-whites or go out of my way to arbitrarily attack them. Their biological differences from whites aren’t a matter of my desire to be superior just a reality to acknowledge and understand.

Edeassail, Reddit 6 Comments [8/16/2018 11:18:26 AM]
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