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Quote# 125719

Let's take standard new atheist psychologies as a contrast which are reductionist, suffer often from the naturalistic fallacy, dubious in proposing psychological incompetence for some but not for others and even downright dangerous in reclassification of the human being into a bonobo with a bowler hat.

Emergence - the Musical, Religion and Ethics 9 Comments [3/25/2017 10:55:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 125718

The reason why we can trust God for our healing is because God operates from a higher form of science and engineering that mankind has yet to discover.

God isn't limited to mankind's scientific discoveries - or the lack thereof. Nor is His power at the mercy of those who seek to misuse science in a vain attempt to prove that God doesn't exist.

God actually scoffs at our science because at its very best our science is primitive when it comes to Heaven's technology. And godless people are attempting to use the most primitive methods available to sentient species to disprove the existence of the Maker of all things.

This is one of Heaven's biggest ongoing jokes.

When we look at the make up of a cell, it's clear that Whoever designed it was aware of a technology and science completely unknown to man. The Person who designed the cell along with its components and hardware is far superior than the mind of those who are dependent upon those cells for their very survival.

This is why God tells us to just trust Him. He knows we cannot understand the Mind it took to create us. But when we trust Him for our healing and well-being we are also putting our faith in the higher sciences and superior engineering that went into fashioning our physical bodies.

It's not important that you understand HOW God heals: it's only important that you understand THAT God heals.

Put your faith and trust in Him today.

Mack Major, Facebook 13 Comments [3/25/2017 10:52:21 AM]
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Quote# 125716

["Kansas Republicans and Democrats Give Trump the Bipartisan Finger, Finally Accept Medicaid Expansion"]

Does this mean that lives in Kansas will be saved for having medical care available through the Obamacare Medicaid expansion?

Now, normally, I would like to think that LIVES SAVED is a good thing. But here, we are talking about KANSAS lives saved. Which likely means, saving the lives of Trump supporters.

And that’s my dilemma. Why should I be willing to spend my tax dollars savings the lives of Trump supporters?

o4tuna, Daily Kos 14 Comments [3/25/2017 10:50:24 AM]
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Quote# 125715

This is an Enlightenment-descended idea so deeply embedded into modernity that it's hard to uproot.

The basic motivation comes from a good place. The idea is that diverse cultural and philosophical environments are darwinian, where only the fit survive and the weak die off. That's the way it is in nature, and the way it should be in human society.

But even in nature biodiversity's virtue is limited. Sudden introduction of foreign species is almost always enormously destructive, and does the ecosystem more harm than good even in the long term, often serving to reduce biodiversity--look at the introduction of the cane toad in Australia for example which has displaced many native fauna. Diversity is not everywhere and always good, and efforts to increase it often backfire. Lack of diversity is not the problem.

What's worse than lack of diversity is geographic isolation. Take for example New Zealand, which is quite biodiverse but due to its isolation has seen many native species disappear when inevitably some foreign species are introduced. In the human world this degree of isolation is very rare--maybe somewhere like North Korea.

At the very least, biologists recognize the sudden and artificial introduction of foreign species as a bad thing for the ecosystem. Why would we not consider the sudden and artificial introduction of foreign cultures a bad thing for the cultural ecosystem?

Chewing of the cud, Reddit 3 Comments [3/25/2017 10:49:54 AM]
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Quote# 125714

Saturday, August 14, 2010

Ruin & Misery

All modern buildings are toxic and ruined
So I'm homeless
I would like to build godly shelters

All manufactured clothing has harmful chemicals
It's so miserable I'm considering wearing rags
I would like to weave healthy clothing

All food is poisoned
So I go hungry often
I wish it were allowable to have good food

All water is contaminated
So I go thirsty and rarely bathe
I'd use good spring water if accessible

More illegal drugs are on fake USA money than others
So I took a vow of poverty years ago
If there was real and clean money I'd use it more

There is no honest or safe work anymore
So I have been unemployed for many years
If I found reasonable work for trade I would

Cities and towns have the most polluted air
So I avoid them, especially the low lying areas
I wander the countryside or mountain wilderness

All worldly government is Antichrist
So it is difficult for me to participate
If it were more peaceful I would accept it more

The same goes for the following, transportation, communication, education, religion, physicians, recycling, etc. etc. etc. basically anything having to do with industrialism.

nobody, Stranniki 10 Comments [3/25/2017 10:48:52 AM]
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Submitted By: Hu's On First

Quote# 125713

The printing press was first used by heretics and from the beginning people of good conscience have considered it evil and of the devil. Russia was the only Orthodox Christian Empire left, so when the printing press first arrived in Russia from the western heretical lands a good thing happened. The Russians in Moscow destroyed the printing press and the machine operators had to flee due to this unwelcoming happening. I have personally owned some of the first printed books made for Orthodox Christians and have found where entire pages had to be removed, in one way or another, because of the various types of unchristian content.

...


Printing is inherently wicked and worldly at best.

Forgive

nobody, Stranniki 11 Comments [3/25/2017 10:48:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Hu's On First

Quote# 125712

Invention = Murder

Civilization develops not from Abel, but from Cain the murderer. The very word "civilization" derives from the Latin word for city. It is the leisure time, community organization and specialization of labor in the first cities that permitted the emergence of the arts and technologies we think of as the hallmarks of civilizations. The first city, according to Genesis, was constructed by Cain, the inventor of agriculture-a technology that requires a fixed abode. And it is his descendants, the sons of Lamech, who invent both "artifices in brass and iron" and musical instruments. Metallurgy and music-technology and art-are in the line from Cain. And the passions that lead to murder do not abate: Lamech says, "For I have slain a man for wounding me, and a young man for bruising me; if Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold." The connection between murder and invention has been with us ever since. Both derive from agriculture and civilization. p.64 Dragons of Eden, Sagan

nobody, Stranniki 6 Comments [3/25/2017 10:48:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Hu's On First

Quote# 125711

Obadiah 4

Those people who believe they can jet here, or jet there, or otherwise fly around in any aircraft/spacecraft, these people all have another thing coming to them. For the Holy Prophet Obadiah at line 4 declares the testimony of God saying that He will bring all such people down.

"Though you ascend as high as the eagle, And though you set your nest among the stars, From there I will bring you down," says the LORD.

Anytime I see an aircraft or spacecraft my shout of reminder is

"Obadiah 4."

nobody, Stranniki 4 Comments [3/25/2017 10:43:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Hu's On First

Quote# 125710

The content of communication media, whether TV, movies, videos, audio, newspaper, books, magazines, etc., has a powerful effect on the imagination. We don't think of the writers and producers as prophets today, but they have a profound influence in the direction of our thinking. You should test what you allow entrance into your mind. Ask yourself, what is this prophet trying to tell me? Has he/she been sent to me by God? Is the vision that I am receiving false? Are they encouraging me to engage in some form of divination (séances, psychics, tarot cards, etc.)? Is this leading me into idolatry and delusion? Is this corrupting my imagination?

karleen, Tripod 3 Comments [3/25/2017 10:43:11 AM]
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Quote# 125704

Bay Area Guy’s last post raised several interesting points on the pernicious effects of globalisation and I thought I’d add a few more. Despite flowery rhetoric about tolerance and global prosperity, globalization’s end game is essentially globalism, the unhindered movement of capital and labour across the world. This dystopic vision necessitates the dissolving of national borders which in turn requires the destruction of nationalism – this would begin logically with the demolition of the family unit.

We’ve already witnessed an unprecedented propensity to outsource and that propensity seems to be intensifying with the continued evolution of technology. Online platforms like Upwork have made it easy to outsource work to the lowest bidders who typically reside in the third world. I’ve pointed out before that our services based economies require an ever expanding market to sustain them. During the days of old school colonialism where economies were still manufacturing based, western powers conquered foreign countries and turned them into dumping grounds for their economic surplus (captive markets).

Since Western nations manufacture virtually nothing today and have instead foolishly reconfigured their economies along a services based model, they’ve run into a quagmire of declining consumption. Since one cannot export a service (barring some exceptions) it stands to reason that the old school colonialism paradigm no longer suffices. The only way to alleviate the problem of declining consumption is to therefore import consumers within a nation’s borders. Third world immigrants are consumers/employees first and citizens last. The only way to naturalize cultural aliens within ones borders is to do away with the host culture altogether. Thus globalism is the very antithesis of nationalism.

‘People of color’

The term ‘people of color’ succinctly encapsulates the globalist mindset – allotting the masses hollow and artificially constructed identities devoid of any meaning grounded in historical context. It cannot be overstated that this term is essentially a Marxist one. Non-whites certainly do not see themselves as belonging to a monolithic class with common goals and overlapping interests. Persians, Indians, and east Asians have traditionally defined their identities on their own cultural terms as opposed to some hollow alliance in opposition to whitey. ‘People of color’ only makes sense when one views this class as inherently opposed to the class of whites. Only in Marxism do we see artificially created classes pitted against other equally artificially created classes.

In reality, most non whites in North America have extremely weak cultural as well as religious identities. Identities grow organically in their indigenous domains. Divorce the former from the latter and the former is forever compromised. Most second and third generation Asian Americans (and Canadians) have little idea of their cultural heritage. They be able to study their civilisations via textbooks but that is not the same as living the culture. A third generation American Chinese is practically a different species from his counterpart in mainland China. Despite this reality, a North American Chinese person intuitively recognises his gap from the mainstream (ie white) and thus joins the people of colour coalition.

This is primarily why I shake my head in amazement when people think that Islam will take over the west. Such an undertaking would require an enormous act of will and cultural power that North Americans Muslims clearly lack. Muslims have not even been able to implement Sharia law in Pakistan where they are 97% of the population. They double down on their religion because their ethnic identities have become diluted. This is the true reason why our elites don’t fear Islam – they realise that Muslims too can be effortlessly herded into the ever burgeoning POC category alongside Asians and South Americans. While leftists fawn over POC, the category exists for the sole purpose of diluting their identities and hence weaponizing them against whites.

Dota, Occident Invicta 2 Comments [3/25/2017 10:41:38 AM]
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Quote# 125700

My proposed healthcare plan for America.

#KillTheBill #Obamacare



Patrick Henry, Twitter 16 Comments [3/24/2017 5:21:56 PM]
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Quote# 125697

[On the picture is inscribed the slogan "The answer to 1917 is 1973" besides a helicopter]



WhoIsJohnMalt, Redbubble 7 Comments [3/24/2017 5:13:52 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 125696

Well you could start with whether a coherent anthropology and psychology are on offer.
Those who take a negative position vis a vis religion have a poor anthropology and psychology chiefly marked by unsubstantiated claims of universal psychological incompetence on the part of everybody except themselves. And of course their moral theory, er, isn't.............So, i'm afraid it has to be religion then.

Emergence - The Musical, Religion and Ethics 15 Comments [3/24/2017 5:13:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 125695

A conservatism not based on the foundations of the Bible is a Christ-less conservatism. Jesus is the standard by which all moral law is based. Remove Him and His Name from your political ideology and you find yourself in bed with the Log-Cabin conservatives.

Dave Daubenmire, BarbWire 14 Comments [3/24/2017 5:13:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125693



MyIllnessPersists, r/The_Donald 14 Comments [3/24/2017 12:20:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 125690

If I had my way, I'd burn every pornographic magazine. I'd burn every Sports Illustrated. I'd burn every women's lingerie catalog that husbands are tempted to look through. You can laugh if you want, but God is on my side. The carnal, and unsaved man laughs at such high moral standards—as they also scoff at God's Word, make light of salvation, and curse the name of the Lord. It's all a big joke to so many people today; but they won't be chuckling when they stand in judgment before their Creator. They'll be urinating on themselves in fear. They'll be weeping in regret and shame. I fear God, do you?

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 22 Comments [3/24/2017 12:20:17 PM]
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Quote# 125687

The Welcome Mat



Obama set some traps for President Trump, like Obamacare, Iran Deal, and Russian Sanctions, to name a few, along with loyal hold overs. Cartoon by A.F. Branco ©2017.

To see more Legal Insurrection Branco cartoons, click here.

A.F. Branco, Comically Incorrect 19 Comments [3/24/2017 12:19:58 PM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 125686



Senator Hanson, who made the announcement in a video posted to social media, held up a piece of paper with her own proposed hash tag “Pray4MuslimBan”.

“That is how you solve the problem, put a ban on it and then let’s deal with the issues here,” she said.

Senator Hanson pointed to recently announced security upgrades at Parliament House and praised the work of ASIO and the Federal Police but said “They can’t keep an eye on everyone”.

“We’re protected, what about you?" she said.

"Do you feel protected? Do you feel safe in your country?”

She called on members of the Australian parliament to get behind her and “look at it realistically”.

“Debate the issue and make sure that we do not have this religion that is really an ideology that is eventually going to eventually cause so much havoc on our streets, not only for ourselves but for future generations,” she said.

Reaction online: #pray4paulineban

Some Twitter users responded to Ms Hanson’s call to ban Muslims by tweeting their own hashtags, including #pray4paulineban.

Twitter user Sarah Cowley wrote: “This woman & her views do not represent me! #IslamNOphobia #Pray4PaulineBan #WeAreOne #Thisis2017 #AusPol #YouAreWelcomeHere #Australia”

Justine Pitcher wrote: “So she wants to put a ban on it? @PaulineHansonOz Put a sock in it.”

Pauline Hanson, SBS 15 Comments [3/24/2017 12:19:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 125685

[Comments under "Resist The Globohomo Goliath" on the subject of denouncing illegal migrants to the ICE]

@swimologist:
You know what a better “resistance” effort would be? Next time you’re near a Trump immigration protest, or a Muslim riot in Europe, just shoot ten of the protesters. I guarantee you that will bring the a resolution to the entire issue to the fore more quickly.


Congratulations. You remove 5 or 6 illegals with your phone calls. Meanwhile, 10,000 just crossed into Texas this single day.

Are you fucking serious?!?!

No. You need STATE power to make a difference. Orban. Putin. Hirohito. Mussolini. Franco. The wehrmacht. Anything else is the equivalent of wanking to old playboys. Armies. Militias. “just shoot ten of the protesters.” well, that’s more of the right idea from our brother swimologist.

asswipes. Oh john fucking mosby will be sure to say something stupid right about now…

Note* If you work in a line of business where meet illegals, then go on with phone calls to ICE. For the rest of us, meh.

swimologist and tomjones, Chateau Heartiste 11 Comments [3/24/2017 12:19:34 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 125682

LEFOU, YOU’RE NOT GAY FRIEND!

Dear Lefou,

Before you start thinking you’re gay and acting out with behaviors you’re not familiar with, hear me out. I think there is more to you than your sexuality, and there is more going on in your life related to your newly discovered feelings toward Gaston. Instead of accepting the false identity of a gay man, you should consider the following:

Many people will be claiming that you’re gay, because you have an attraction to a guy that you just can’t place. You find him extremely attractive, and you’re not sure why. You hear from people that you must be gay! And that seems like the easy answer. You’ve seen movies with gay people in them and feel like you can relate to them. You’ve seen how your peers at Disney romanticize same- sex relationships as being healthy and normal; and it brings you peace thinking that could be you. Now that you’ve got this feeling you can’t hide, that deep down desire that is directed toward Gaston, you probably think that must mean you are gay, huh? Before you hasten to choose a gay identity, consider that there are negative factors that could be influencing your identity and behavior, if not subconsciously, then overtly. You may recall things as I mention them, or you may have to pray to recall repressed memories.

HERE WE GO, WILL YOU HEAR ME OUT LEFOU?

What if certain things from your past have caused you to have these unusual feelings? Many people who have been where you are, took on the gay identity, only to find themselves coming to a different identity that isn’t gay. Me for example. This is because they have identified experiences from their past that led them to nurture a mistaken identity.

What are these experiences? They include unrealized masculine qualities you wish you had and covet in other men (Gaston for example), feelings of rejection from women (so I’ve heard Claudette, Laurette and Paulette have been hard on you), lack of healthy masculine relationships with other men, and a really dark subject, abuse. Let’s review these one at a time:

UNREALIZED MASCULINE QUALITIES

Let me tell you about what happened to me here. I grew up very smart like you, energetic, fun to have around. Also like you, I was not really athletic and the girls ridiculed me constantly. I also found myself wishing I was the alpha male, daydreaming of being one of those big guys who got the attention of the girls and was awesome in all sports. (I suppose for you it’s hunting and fishing?) Something in me changed over time because of the coveting and the lust of their masculinity, including their bodies. I started to see them as attractive, not platonicly speaking, but with a desire to possess. With many of my peers jeering at my lack of masculinity, and calling me gay and queer because of it, I wondered if that was the explanation as to why I had those feelings. Perhaps those feelings were sexual? And if they were sexual toward the same sex, I must be gay?

You see LeFou, you have been bullied for a long time by Gaston. That guy has a huge ego, and he uses people like you to feel important and strong. It’s seems he is demonstrating dysfunctional behaviors in relationships with both men and women and needs help. He has been teasing you and demonstrating his masculinity to taunt you for his benefit. You recognize his strength and are intimidated by it, yet somewhat curious and attracted to it. What could be happening is the masculine qualities you think you don’t or can’t have that he possesses is causing feelings of desire. He seems to be using that to his benefit. It seems you’re stuck in a victimzier/victim relationship.

LACK OF HEALTHY MASCULINE MALE RELATIONSHIPS

I went the majority of my life without a healthy masculine relationship. My father, God bless him, was very busy man working to take care of our family, but unavailable for those father/son bonding experiences that you see in old shows like My Three Sons or Leave it to Beaver. The male peers with whom I hung out frequently made me the brunt of the jokes because I was a pushover. Always wanting to please others, wanting people to like me because I was so alone– wait, isn’t that your story? Yeah, we’re a lot alike.

It wasn’t until later in life that I met a male friend who eventually became a spiritual brother to me. My friend demonstrated masculinity in a way that didn’t intimidate or show condescension towards me. He wanted to help me find my masculinity. He came alongside me and encouraged my growth instead of holding his masculinity above me like a carrot to get me to do things.

Gaston is using you, and you are allowing it because you are getting male attention, albeit all negative . It is true he is a handsome and strong man, a seemingly very capable individual. But he dangles it over you to get a response for his ego, to get you to serve him, to oogle over him. Like I said, his ego is so big he uses women and men and wants them to swoon over him.

But you know what? There are better guys out there who will be your brother. Some other guys will come along and befriend you. These new friends will be your equal and your guide you in obtaining the masculine qualities you want. They can help you get comfortable in your own skin. Ask and I bet they can help you in prayer as you seek counseling from therapists. And then you’ll learn the strong men in your life are your peers, not your lovers.

TROUBLES WITH THE LADIES

Here is another area I have some experience in. Not the good kind, the bad kind. I see how the ladies treat you with disdain. They look at you and wince. In middle school I was setup by three mean girls. They invited me to ‘the dance’ with a plan to destroy me. When I arrived at my date’s house, they literally cornered me in the den and emotionally berated and emasculated me. I ran home for support, but instead, I was rejected by my step mother and told to go to my room.

I was crushed. It was not until years later that I learned I had believed those girls when they said I was gay, that I was ugly and stupid, and that no girl (or woman) would ever want to be with me. This experience dramatically changed the way I related to women and ultimately how I related to men. Not trusting women with my feelings, that left me with men. Now that I’ve recovered from that trauma, I am able to trust a woman with my feelings.

ABUSE

If you read the news, you’ll see there sure are a lot of stories around questioning identity and sexual brokenness lately. People are discovering their ‘true’ selves after being abused. George Takei was sexually molested as a 13 year old child by a male adult at a summer camp before he took on a gay identity. Ellen Degeneres was sexually assaulted by her step father over and over. Milo Yiannopoulos was sexually abused as a 13 year old by a man and later again by another man. Tragically, when children are exposed to sexual abuse, they can get very confused, hide the abuse from their parents, or worse not be believed by their parents, and then bury the pain and later act out in unhealthy ways by making poor choices and end up taking on identities they wouldn’t have ever had if they had not been abused.

Have you been abused? You don’t need to tell me. I ask just to give you something consider if you need healing in that area of your life.

SEEKING HELP

If any of these areas ring true to your heart, and you believe there may be any sort of brokenness; I would encourage you to seek professional therapy and support. It seems the longer you go, the farther you’ll repress that pain until it becomes part of your identity.
What do I mean by that? Well, for many people there comes a point when you just give up and ‘admit’ you’re are gay because you can’t address the pain of the causes of your brokenness or explain or deal with the confusing or unwanted same sex attraction. The ‘coming out’ experience seems inevitable when compared to the huge wall of pain. Giving in feels like a relief because sometimes it’s easier to accept the identity of a gay person than to address the pain of brokenness. I’m not saying this is your struggle or your solution, just hoping to enlighten you that this could be an issue for you and if so there is hope for wholeness. It was certainly a struggle for me, and I prayed and God lead me to healing my brokenness and restoration of my true identity. Write me back and we can talk more about that.

Sincerely,

Daren
Your Not Gay Friend

Daren Mehl, Daren Mehl Blog 17 Comments [3/24/2017 12:15:24 PM]
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Quote# 125680

Earlier this month, right-wing preacher Lance Wallnau announced that he and his prayer warriors would be “fasting and praying so that the Lord will turn the tables” on those who are working to undermine President Trump. And apparently those prayers are already working, according to Wallnau, based on the statement from Republican Rep. Devin Nunes yesterday that some communications involving members of Trump’s transition team had been “incidentally collected” during legal U.S. government surveillance of foreign targets.

Nunes’ statement, of course, did not corroborate Trump’s claims.

In a video posted on his Facebook page last night, Wallnau misrepresented the facts of the matter while suggesting that it was no coincidence that this information was revealed in the wake of their prayer efforts.

Wallnau said that Trump “has had his legitimacy as a president constantly questioned and harassed by the principalities and powers that are operating through the media and what we call the deep state,” which he said are spreading “fake news” in order to delegitimize the president.

“Interesting,” Wallnau said, “after the fast and after we’ve been praying and after we’ve been talking about the Haman being hung on his own gallows, today news comes out that says that there was indeed an agency-wide sharing of names of individuals that never should have been revealed; who were somehow caught in the net of surveillance that was being done and put into documents that were leaked to the press so as to create the impression that Trump is under investigation and that he’s under surveillance and being wiretapped.”

“When Donald Trump goes and says what he’s reading in the news, he’s accused of being insane,” Wallnau stated. “It’s an interesting kind of witchcraft going on there. It’s just so obvious to me.”

Lance Wallnau, Right Wing Watch 9 Comments [3/24/2017 12:14:48 PM]
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Quote# 125679

(All??aces??belong??in??LGBT??places)

anyway when is OP going to choke :/

(Op threatened to break lgbt peoples necks for not letting them into lgbt spaces, just remember that.)

People cant take a fucking joke can they, Did I trigger you?

Discourseful, Tumblr 7 Comments [3/24/2017 12:14:44 PM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 125674

Concerning the recently-passed bill that allows Idaho parents to deny children life-saving medical care

Committee Chairman Jeff Siddoway, R-Terreton, who was the tiebreaking vote to move the bill on to the full Senate, gave a passionate description of his own faith.

“I certainly believe in divinity and I think that our Lord Jesus Christ can intervene,” he said. “I’m sure many in this room have witnessed miracles. Those children that have gone on, they’re probably where we’re all trying to get. They’re there. They’ve got it made. If we can just live a righteous life, one day we’ll be with them again. But I think this bill comes as close as we can come right now in trying to intervene.”

Jeff Siddoway, Idaho Statesman 22 Comments [3/23/2017 4:58:36 PM]
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Quote# 125664

You have to be kidding me?!: Terror attacks are part of living in big city, says London Mayor Sadiq Khan

Sadiq Khan: London mayor says terror attacks 'part and parcel' of living in a major city
Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to ...
independent.co.uk


Donald Trump Jr., Twitter 19 Comments [3/23/2017 4:57:54 PM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 125663

Sunnis vs Shia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVmZin6hRNU
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Shia are invading our homes with kafir help and alliances, killing our sons raping our women crushing our children, and we think debating them on TV is a success?

Btw this video is at least 6 years old, if not older. The reality of Muslims is the regimes over us intentionally obstruct Islam for kufr which allows for Shia to grow. When Muslims prefer secular ideologies to Islam the devilish Shia grow. Hence secular ideologies have dominated Iraq & Syria for 30+ yrs and now demonic Shia dominate these lands.

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Shi'as always get humiliated in debates with the true Muslims.

Interesting that the '12th Imam' was mentioned in the video. I read some Shi'a narrations where the Shi'as' so-called Mahdi will kill the Sunnis. (Us!)

Never will we unite with the Rawafilth, just look at their crimes and hatred against us.
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These nonsenses are not Sahih.
Which one of those imams killed Sunnies that now you expect the twelfth one does this !?
Sunnies and Shias fought besides each other for those imams. However at that time such classification (Sunni,Shia) would not exist but the thoughts and beliefs existed.
Whoever stands against Mahdi he in fact ruins himself he is beyond the sects rather he is beyond the religions, he is the saviour of humanity.
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The Shias are led by the Iranians.

And the Sunnis are led by the Saudis and Gulf nations.

Both are motivated by greed and a lust for power. Its unfair to say the Kafirs have helped the Shias alone, the Kafirs have supported both the Shias and Sunnis - its just that the Shias have been able to manipulate things in their favour.

One on one, the Iranians would annihilate the Saudis and Gulf nations - and this is playing out in the Mid-East now.

Sunnis need to change tactics.
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I don't agree with your assessment. The Shia are led by Iran, but the Tawaghit powers have been using the Shia against the Muslim Ummah sincerely the 1800s ce.

First, the British built modern Iran after the Persian dynasty was defeated by the Russian empire. Russia essentially had the Persian at knife point and then turned them over to Britain. Britain built modern Iran and used their Occult Masonic knowledge to empower Iran to being an agent of their world order.

After WW2, America replaced Britain as the Taghut power directing the Iranian dog.
The Shia rise to power in Iran was the design of America and France helped America accomplish this.

Iran, the Shia leader, is a tool of America functioning as a mechanism of the American led Taghut world order.

As for the Sunnis,
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Kaafir kaafir shia kaafir
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Its this attitude that has led ummah at this stage...Blame game.Not once we recognise "ours" mistskes and find logics and explainations for our ancestors wrong doings...And when presently there is a time for unity we are busy igniting the events by believing the propagandas..The level of muslims believing twitters by others is baffling..The level of hypocrisy of gulf countries and some western propagandas and muslims believing them needs to change or they wont find a single ground to stand on in near future...Definitly wars ll not spare sunnis and shias alike besides non muslims but dying without knowing ll be painful to see...
Govts are sold out following the pages of "others" prophecies..Sunnis by and large can do whatever they want but upto them but we choose the path of sunni shia unity.It doesnt bother us a bit if either sunnis stand against our decisions or rawafids...They can do what they want and we ll do what we think is right.




various, ummah.com 8 Comments [3/23/2017 4:56:55 PM]
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