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Quote# 112379

Chinese seem to confuse their race with their nationality. Their loyalties are therefore questionable

Birdman, Straight 19 Comments [8/29/2015 6:26:54 AM]
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Quote# 112377

(On Jimmy Saville's victims)

They came from horrifically messed up families and had tons of problems long before they ever laid eyes on Jimmy or Garry or any of the other accused men. What they wanted was an escape. A way out. A free pass. They clearly had zero adult supervision. Who lets their young daughter go to London with a much older, famous entertainer? Who lets their teenager cruise around with a man reeking of cigar smoke and alcohol in a Rolls-Royce?

And now they are claiming the MEN abused THEM? Looks to me like it was the other way around. The situations and incidents Karin describes as abuse were nothing more than girls out famewhoring. Desperate for male approval and love and attention and power by proxy, they tried shooting for the moon.

It’s a story as old as bloody time. Young women with nothing to offer but their youth and sexuality chase after powerful men in exchange for favors. If we are going to arrest every powerful man who has ever availed himself of willing women, we are gonna need to build a whole lot of jails.

Hewson says the men being arrested are scapegoats. Scapegoats for what? For the anger and embarrassment and jealousy and bitterness the women feel because they FAILED to land the big fish? Would any of these women be complaining if they had ended up married to one of the stars?

Hell no. They’d all be divorced now with half his assets in their bank accounts, gloating over what idiots men are to fall for youth and beauty.
Hewson wants to lower the age of consent so that prosecuting these men becomes impossible. While I understand her ire, I’m afraid I can’t agree with her solution entirely. Lower the age of consent to 13? Okay. Sure.

But put in sensible measures like the United States. An age gap consideration and a mistaken age defense. With power, comes responsibility. That’s part of the deal. Powerful men have some obligation to use their power judiciously. Underage girls are off limits, no matter how willing they are to comply.

With power, comes responsibility. It applies to the girls, too. Youth and beauty and enthusiasm have power, and the girls have some responsibility to use their power judiciously. Chasing after much older men in the hopes of currying favor and gaining benefits is off limits.

But humans are humans. Powerful men always have and always will delight in young women hunting them. Young women always have and always will hunt for powerful men. Both sides are equally culpable. Both sides are engaging in abuse. Both sides are behaving shamefully. Both side are being idiots.
gold digger

But only one side is being held criminally responsible? Bullshit. If the girls are not going to be strung up on charges of solicitation and prostitution, and I absolutely do NOT think they should be, then fairness and equality under the law dictates the men get a pass, too.

Andrea Hardie, Judgybitch 26 Comments [8/29/2015 6:25:48 AM]
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Quote# 112373

Radio host Michael Savage is not pleased with how the cities of New York and San Francisco are handling the issue of homelessness, suggesting yesterday that the city simply throw all homeless people in prison or a mental institution so they stop peeing in his face.

“San Francisco has now become virtually uninhabitable because of the bums crapping in the street, because of the robbery and the crime that is being covered up, and I don’t blame the police, I blame liberalism,” Savage said. “Liberalism is a mental disorder and wherever super-liberals take over, the cities go to the toilet bowl. Look at New York, I was just there last week, you take your life in your hands walking around with the folks with the box cutters underneath with the shaking cup…. The word ‘homeless’ itself is a fabrication of the radical left.”

After declaring that the Bible and the U.S. Constitution do not require government to support housing homeless individuals other than in “a jail cell or a mental hospital,” Savage said, “The bums are now so brazen because the cops have been neutralized by the liberals that they are literally, openly defecating and peeing in the streets in front of people.”

“They urinate in your face now,” he added.

Michael Savage, Right Wing Watch 23 Comments [8/29/2015 6:25:05 AM]
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Quote# 112372

During a recent “Receiving A Prophet’s Reward” special, conservative televangelist Rod Parsley shared the story of a woman who was informed by her doctors that her baby would be born with “more tumors in its brain than the doctors could even count.”

However, by “sowing a seed” — giving an envelope of money to Parsley during a church service — Parsley reports that “she gave birth to a baby perfectly normal, not a single tumor anywhere to be found.”

Rod Parsley, Right Wing Watch 20 Comments [8/29/2015 6:24:47 AM]
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Quote# 112369

Now let’s say our earnest little Muslim girl doesn’t die young. Instead, she grows into an adult and somewhere along the line, the Holy Spirit begins to expose her to truth. As soon as the Holy Spirit starts talking, the woman’s soul is forced to choose between accepting or rejecting what He is saying. Let’s say she starts rejecting Him. On the outside, she remains dedicated to Islam. She’s so dedicated that when you meet her, you think, “Wow, this woman is really serious about pleasing God.” But is she? On a soul level, she is willfully rejecting the Holy Spirit. She isn’t interested in pleasing God at all. On the contrary, she’s only interested in pleasing herself. When the Holy Spirit reveals to her that her Allah is a delusion, she adamantly rejects what the Holy Spirit is saying—not because she’s so dedicated to Allah, but because she demands the right to define who god is. This woman isn’t really dedicated to any god—she’s really obsessed with control. It’s the same with Mormons, Hindus, Buddhists, New Agers, and any other religion you want to name. As soon as a soul begins to reject the true identity of God, the religious games they play are nothing more than a farce. Anyone who is truly interested in submitting to the real God would do just that. Anyone who claims to be interested in pleasing God while they stubbornly cling to gods they have just invented is proving how phony their claims are.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 11 Comments [8/29/2015 6:24:07 AM]
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Quote# 112367

God is love, but He’s also wrath. He’s justice, but He’s also grace. How does that work? How can God love human beings so intensely and at the same time not be bothered by throwing so many of us into hell? How can He be so invested and indifferent at the same time? Because none of us have ever seen the entire picture of God, we often struggle to comprehend how all of our glimpses of Him can fit together. God teaches us all in a different order. When He gives you a glimpse of His love, then He follows that with a glimpse of His mercy and grace, these three things seem to fit together nicely. But then when He gives you a glimpse of His wrath or His fierce jealousy or His delight in revenge, the positive pattern you were getting used to is suddenly proven to be invalid and you feel like you’re starting back at square one with a bunch of confusion. Feeling in doubt about knowing God at all is a common response to Christians getting exposed to some new, shocking insight about Him. Yet if we are willing to be patient and trust our Teacher, we will experience Him neatly weaving all of our insights about Him together into some new, tantalizing shape.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 6 Comments [8/29/2015 6:23:55 AM]
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Quote# 112366

Your relationship with God is an extremely personal thing. Your soul’s communication with Him is as intimate and private as a man and wife cuddling each other in bed. In the Bible, God constantly likened worship and prayer to sex. He said His followers were like His wife and He was the possessive Husband who got super ticked when His wife starting doing it with other gods. In the Old Testament, most of God’s chosen people were heavy into idol worship. God took major offense at this. He called it adulterous betrayal and He put out some very crude descriptions of how He viewed souls praying to supernatural beings other than Him.

“At every street corner you built your lofty shrines and made your beauty abominable, spreading your legs to everyone who passed by with increasing promiscuity.” (Eze. 16:25)

To describe a woman as “spreading her legs” is a very crude way of saying she’s having sex with a man. Why is God being so crude here? Because He’s extremely upset about His people praying to other gods. What you do with your soul is extremely important to God. He is very jealous and possessive over you. He says that all of your spiritual “sex”—all of your soul worship and prayers—belong to Him alone. This is why it’s so important that we don’t go praying to Mary, saints, angels, dead people, planets, or anything else. Whenever your soul is reaching out to anyone or anything other than God, God says it’s like you’re having sex with that thing–it’s like you’re committing adultery and cheating on your real Husband.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 5 Comments [8/29/2015 6:23:52 AM]
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Quote# 112365

Are Josh Duggar, Jared Fogle Sexual Sins Genetic?

Last week, Illinois became the fourth state to ban licensed therapy for minors with unwanted same-sex attractions. Like other "RINO" governors such as New Jersey's Chris Christie, Republican Gov. Bruce Rauner is beholden to the gay lobby in Illinois, whose legislature contains a solid majority of like-minded Democrats. Sadly, I was not at all surprised to see another Republican sell out conservative social values for the sake of political expediency.

But I was shocked to hear of Subway's former poster boy, Jared Fogle, who last week was preparing to plead guilty to child exploitation and pornography charges. Also troubling was CNN's Dr. Drew, who commented to Anderson Cooper (who happens to be gay-identified) that Fogle's behavior has "genetic" contributions. Later in the week, it was also revealed that former reality TV star Josh Duggar was outed, along with 32 million other users, for cheating on his wife with the assistance of a website called Ashley Madison, which helps adulterers conveniently and discreetly meet other partners for sexual encounters.

Absolutely none of these sexual issues are genetic or biological.

Josh Duggar was not born with a pre-inclination to inappropriately touch his younger sisters. His genes did not pre-dictate his choice to cheat on his wife. For various reasons, Duggar developed what can be presumed to be a heterosexual pornography addiction.

Similarly, Jared Fogle was not born a pedophile. There is absolutely no sound science to support Dr. Drew's commentary that his genetics contributed to this behavior.

In my professional opinion (and I am hypothesizing), Jared developed a sexual appetite for children through various sources of wounding in his early years. Fogle probably experienced a lack of bonding in childhood and adolescence, followed by bullying due to his overweight condition. This most likely alienated him from his peers and caused him to be developmentally stuck where the childhood bullying (trauma) was the worst. If the trauma is not healed, the object that he didn't bond with (childhood peers) later becomes sexualized in adulthood in order to repair the wound.

This is not so different from unwanted same-sex attraction. When boys do not bond with their fathers, they may also fail to attach to their male peers in youth. When puberty occurs, all of these unmet emotional needs for the same sex become unconsciously eroticized. In other cases, sexual, physical or emotional abuse from older same-sex persons may cause a deep wound in a young male, causing him to once again detach from normal bonding with the same sex and then later sexualize these unmet needs for male acceptance and affection.

Last week, Illinois politicians threw these sexually confused youth under the bus by continuing on a destructive path that started in 2012, when gay activists in California introduced a bill to prohibit any type of therapy for individuals (both adults and minors) who were distressed over unwanted same-sex attractions. They later removed the ban for adults in order to better sell the idea that gay children were being abused and "converted" by licensed therapists who were using all sorts of crazy methods, such as electric shock therapy.

Just so we're straight (no pun intended), this bill was intended to outlaw therapy for everyone, not just children, whose sexual identity did not match their unwanted same-sex attractions.

It's important for readers to understand the difference between sexual identity and unwanted sexual attractions.

Sexual identity refers to the core sense of self, or one's own belief, of who they are sexually. As a professional counselor, every day I sit with clients whose sexual identity is heterosexual, but they are conflicted with unwanted sexual attractions of different varieties. Some are conflicted with unwanted attractions for children (often called pedophilia) or hebephilia (if the object of lust is a pre-teen or teenager).

Others have unwanted attractions towards the same sex, or what is also known as homosexuality. Still, others have unwanted desires for the opposite sex, which is sometimes referred to as heterosexual addiction.

Coming back to the cases of Jared and Josh, neither of these young men self-labeled their sexual identities as "pedophile" or "sex addict." This behavior resulted from emotional deficits and deep wounds. In both cases, these men have expressed remorse over their sexual behaviors and are now experiencing the consequences. Both of these young men also could have greatly benefitted from psychotherapy to help resolve their issues. If we continue on our society's current trajectory, the far left will outlaw the chance for young men like Josh and Jared to heal, while at the same time, put other youth at risk of also being victimized. Youth with unwanted same-sex attractions in four states now (and Washington, D.C.) are at risk for similar fates.

Do not be fooled. The far left is not interested in protecting gay youth from "conversion" therapy. Their goal is to completely remove all sexual constraint and restraint from the social fabric of this country, and eventually, the world.

The left opposes abstinence education in favor of so-called "comprehensive sexual education" programs which often teach public school students how to use condoms by placing them over bananas and playing relay races with each other in class to quickly get protection before engaging in underage sex in real life.

Then, when over half of these young people fail to consistently and correctly wear the condoms during sex, the government funds abortion providers to get rid of their "mistakes," while Planned Parenthood makes another profit by harvesting the aborted organs, tissues and body parts, then selling them.

So don't be confused. We need to call this latest attempt to ban sexually confused youth from getting help for what it really is: The far left's attempt to sexually enslave the next generation. They are not protecting anyone. It's sick, and it's bad policy for conservatives and liberals alike.

To support #TherapyEquality in the remaining 46 states, join us for the Third Annual Safe Exit Summit in Washington, D.C. on October 3-4. For more information, visit www.SafeExitSummit.org.

Christopher Doyle, The Christian Post 13 Comments [8/29/2015 6:17:53 AM]
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Quote# 112364

Zachary King remembers the day well. It was in 1982. He was young, rebellious and dabbling in the occult.

But on that day, he would make the transition from novice to the deeper things of Satan.

“I had just turned 14, and they told me there was going to be a sex party in someone’s house and all the males in the coven were going to sleep with this woman,” recalls King, now 47 and a pro-life activist living in Florida.

“And the purpose of the party was to get her pregnant, and then nine months later we were going to be doing an abortion,” he said.


He would later become a high wizard, he said, overseeing more than 140 “ritual abortions.”

“Knowing a spell could kill someone inside a woman, and that’s legal, and five minutes later it’s illegal, I said, ‘This is awesome. I can do this all day long.’ You step through this door and you can kill, and you step through this other door and you go to prison. That in itself should tell you how satanic it is,” King told WND. “The coven leader called it a baby, not a lump of cells, and he said, ‘You kill it.’ They didn’t call it a lump of cells.”

He said he performed many of the sacrificial abortion rituals at the clinics of “a large abortion provider,” but he would not identify the provider for fear of lawsuits.

“As a high wizard, your job was to get your hands bloody while saying a spell, regardless of whether that’s the baby’s blood or the mother’s blood,” he said. “My left hand guided the way, and the right hand had a scalpel. The woman never winced or anything. Both hands were bloody. I participated in 141 abortions. I doubt my actions actually killed any children, but I was still there.”

King said he was hired to be there, casting his spells, by the abortionists.

“You have to be part of the procedure,” he said. “They have hired you to perform a satanic spell and, in order for that to happen, your hands have to get bloody.”

Leo Hohmann and Zachary King, WorldNetDaily 17 Comments [8/29/2015 6:17:38 AM]
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Quote# 112360

How tragic it is then that so many women hardly wear any clothes these days, or wear sensual clothing, and mothers allow their little girls to run around in public in their underwear. The word “underwear” sounds offensive, so people put some colored underwear on their children instead and call it a bathing suit, thinking that's acceptable. It is wrong for any woman, be she young or old, to walk around in public in her underwear, bathing suit or whatever you choose to call it. It's immodesty! It's indecency! It's America today! And that goes for men and boys too!

When we as Christians speak of sexual matters, we need to be very selective in our words, because it is a delicate matter that ought to be approached carefully. Some parents are just plain idiots, allowing their girls to dress and behave promiscuously. A wise parent insists that their child sit properly in public. A parent should continually be observant of where there child is and what they are doing. It is shocking how some parents are so naive of what is going on around them, especially concerning their children. Nudity has become commonplace in American society. It is sinful. Public nakedness is wrong. As America continues its spiritual decline, a thug police state will rise up around us. We are living in unstable times. As America digresses and moves toward third world status, it will be evermore needful to dig-in and die-hard in these perilous (hard to endure) times foretold in 2nd Timothy 3:1-5.

You can't go hardly anywhere in public these days without seeing immodestly dressed women, hearing vulgarity and seeing indecent store displays. Most people aren't shocked by sin anymore, because they don't abide in the Scriptures. Paul said that God's Law made his sins exceedingly sinful. The television does the exact opposite, making sin less offensive and desensitizing the viewer. The daily news features whores with miniskirts up to their neck. That's all the viewer sees is a woman reporter's thighs and two men sitting on each side. Do you think that's a mere coincidence? No, it's deliberate, sinful and God hates it. Judgment day is coming!!!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 25 Comments [8/29/2015 6:15:37 AM]
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Quote# 112359

I have no idea where people get the idea that Trump's supporters are Tea Partiers/conservatives, but it's not from any of the data.

Tim Dukeman, Twitter 13 Comments [8/29/2015 5:49:58 AM]
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Quote# 112354

Jimmy is dead wrong on that statement. Jesus/God made us in His image and likeness. We were created to know, love and serve Him so we can spend eternity in Heaven with Him. In the days of Moses, the penalty for homosexuality was death by stoning. He told His Israelites through Moses that a man must not lie with another man as he does with a woman. That is detestable. God said homosexuality is a sin. So why would Jesus approve of sinful behavior? He wouldn't and He doesn't!

lorac odraned, Christian News Network 16 Comments [8/29/2015 5:45:14 AM]
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Quote# 112349

Well, the definition of sin is missing the mark and breaking God's moral commandments. Which I see anything about condoms in. I don't believe having masses of kids in poverty is what God ordained in His word. To be fruitful and multiply as given in the Genesis account was a command to populate the earth before disease and slavery of debt took over. We are not under Old Testament law, but under the moral law of CHRIST and are not bound by rules and doctrines of men. If man thinks to impose his laws which are not in the Bible than I see your point, but that is not Christisnity, but legalism. Polymorous relationships were never condoned by God. He gave Adam one wife. Abraham took the maidservant because of his wives lack of faith, but these incidents along with others brought great consequences as God said. Just because you read about the human sin in the Bible doesn't mean God ok'd it, but usually brought judgement on it. The Bible is about God intervening in the lives of sinful men and His redemption of mankind. Etc...
I agree with you about imposing our thinking on different realities. But you have to remember the Bible wasn't written from a western mind set but a Middle East mind set and is a book for all peoples. It is very applicable for all generations in all nations as God intended. Just be careful you don't label things as Christian which have nothing to do with CHRIST or His gospel. Also liars will not inherit the kingdom of heaven, so these who live off lies are NOT Christian. 1 Cirinthians 6

jennylynn, Christian News Network 7 Comments [8/29/2015 5:44:41 AM]
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Quote# 112348

“A whale was found with atavistic hind limbs of over 4 feet long. This makes perfect sense according to an evolutionary framework. Please explain how it makes any sense according to creationism.”

Do an Internet search for "photos of extra limbs" and you will find lambs with eight legs, people with four legs, three arms, etc. They have nothing to do with evolution and neither does a whale that has extra limbs.

Ray Comfort, Ray Comfort's blog 22 Comments [8/29/2015 4:33:41 AM]
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Quote# 112347

Remember, we are bloodied but not beaten.

My dad always told me, “I don’t ever want to hear about you starting a fight. But if some bully is determined to pick a fight, you better finish it!”

That advice should be directed at US, patriots who love America and her Constitution.

The bullies are the Progressives/the Marxists who would prefer to remake the Constitution or toss it entirely.

We flyover folks have been busy doing the right thing: raising families, serving our country, paying too much in taxes, working to support ourselves rather than living on the government dole.

The Progressives started this fight. Now it’s our turn to get fired up and finish it.

Tami Jackson, BarbWire 13 Comments [8/29/2015 4:33:17 AM]
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Quote# 112343

There. Is. No. Such. Thing. As. Racism. Against.

Whites. Just as there's no such thing as sexism against men. I can't comment in depth because it takes too long to cover the entire history of the human race.

There are women who routinely dismiss all men as sexist pigs, and I'm sure there are POC who dismiss all whites as racist pigs. In neither case is there enough power vested to cause damage to the dismissed.

I love OCD, Daily Kos 37 Comments [8/29/2015 3:58:54 AM]
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Quote# 112341

“For every cow you don’t eat, I’m gonna eat three.” Say this about any other marginalized group and people will flip their shit (e.g. for every woman you don't catcall, to choose a mild example). You pretend to fight for the oppressed but you couldn't give two shits about the most oppressed group in the world; in fact you're actively contributing to their oppression and treating it as one big joke. Not that you'll care but I'm definitely unfollowing for this trash.

Anonymous, Ask An MRA Anything  10 Comments [8/28/2015 6:17:53 PM]
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Quote# 112340

A lot of white guys are starting to wake up to the fact that white American girls suck. I've found this especially prevalent in the military, of all places.

Take these guys in my unit:

Well, first, there's me, obviously.

Then there's another guy that put in to get stationed in an Asian country for the sole purpose of finding a wife (This guy had no trouble getting attractive white girls. He just doesn't want them.)

Two other older divorced guys (both late 30's) with kids married a black girl from Jamaica and a Turkish girl, respectively.

Another one is a Mormon, rules his family with an iron fist, and cringes at the normal American girls in our office.

Another one is Korean-American. He, too, was stationed overseas and brought a Japanese wife back (though, he confided in me that she's becoming Americanized after only spending 8 months here).

Maverick, Happier Abroad 12 Comments [8/28/2015 6:16:27 PM]
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Quote# 112338

Asian culture inherently value betatudeness in men. White people are taking their women in droves and there is no resentment from the males? Where is the repercussion if an Asian Female dates outside her race? There should be repercussions but there is none.

Asian males should at least have a rule that if Asian girl dates outside then she becomes waste and undateabale. Don't let them resettle back to the Asian male population when they are getting old and used up. Repercussions man.

Asian men are easily crippled because they are going against a majority. Wasn't there a news that military Asian guy killed himself bc the soldiers kept harassing him about him being Asian? I mean this dude is serving the country and he gets that treatment -- wtf? Read the bamboo ceiling.

Asian American Females are the biggest sell outs. But you know what? This is not just them. This is inherent in ALL asian cultures.. it is just that USA magnifies this aspect of the culture. It happens when a population immigrates to a majority controlled lands. This is White man world, keep your facts straight.

Mguy, Happier Abroad 8 Comments [8/28/2015 6:15:51 PM]
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Quote# 112336

When it comes to sexual orientation, abortion, and childhood sexual exploration, the left demands to arbitrate the rules. The problem for the rest of America is that if one dares express an opinion alien to the guidelines set forth by the left or risks imposing moral standards via a chosen lifestyle, liberals focus like a laser on obliterating the offender.

That’s exactly what Josh Duggar of 19 Kids and Counting is living through right now.

Seems that when Josh was a 14-year-old boy, he admitted that he “inexcusably” fondled five girls in their sleep, two of whom were his younger sisters. Riddled with remorse, Josh confessed to his parents what he’d done, and Michelle and Jim Bob chose to handle it by sending him away for a while and then reporting it to the authorities. Charges were not filed.

No one disagrees that a child molesting a child, let alone a sibling, is inappropriate and harmful behavior, but then again, in today’s society, boys fondling girls and even boys fondling boys are common occurrences.

Insincerity enters the debate via those who ordinarily consider underage sex part of normal human development. After all, it was the government agency Health and Human Services that acknowledged sex-play among kids to be part of what they call small children behaving like “Sexual Beings.”

For Josh Duggar, 12 years after the fact, it’s different.

In his case, the group that normally encourages all manner of sexual experimentation is calling for the father of four’s head on a sexual-predator spike. Sorry to have to be the bearer of bad tidings, but if every individual casting a stone was to have the curtain drawn back on his or her antics during puberty, there’d be a whole lot of scribbling in the sand.

Josh lived in a cloistered, homeschooled family environment, but if the eldest Duggar were in an Arkansas public school system and decided to get busy with a girlfriend in the back of someone’s pickup truck, the ones criticizing him now would have surely provided the lad with a condom-on-a-cucumber tutorial. And if need be, had clumsy Josh failed to use the government-issued condom correctly, if given the go-ahead by a judge, some school administrator would gladly have shuttled the object of Josh’s affection to an abortion clinic, with her parents none the wiser.

Speaking of Arkansas, don’t the Duggars hail from the same state as a former president who, as far as we know, never fondled his alleged half-sister Sharon Lee Blythe but was accused by several women of rape, molestation, exposing himself, and preying upon White House interns?

Yet many of Josh’s critics adore America’s infamous saxophone-playing pervert, because letting someone like Bill get away with using a cigar as a sex toy must somehow subdue the sex-induced self-reproach liberals apparently feel.

For Josh, admitting his indiscretions and actually changing his behavior underscores the message that although our weak carnal natures tend toward wanton depravity, and despite attesting faith in Christ, no one is exempt from the need for God’s forgiveness.

Secular liberals can’t have that!

Unlike those who attempt to assuage the guilt of abortion by downgrading babies to fetal tissue, Duggar did not make excuses for his indefensible behavior. He confessed, and he is now willing to suffer the consequences.

Duggar critics argue that Josh’s victims are injured for life and will never recover from the trauma. Hopefully, with time and counseling, that will not be the case.

However, this concern is mouthed by the very people who largely agree with exposing kindergarteners to homosexual marriage, installing safe-school czars who attend conferences that teach unnatural gay sex techniques to schoolchildren, and excusing ex-presidents for frequenting pedophile vacation destinations.

Isn’t it liberals who believe that teaching masturbation is more important than American history? And now America is supposed to believe that those who sexualize five-year-olds from the second they enter school are suddenly wringing their hands with concern for the girls horny Josh infringed upon?

Moreover, when they’re not demanding that a 27-year-old a man be branded a child predator for engaging in inappropriate hormone-induced sexual activity when he was 14, lefties spend their time egging on a sex-obsessed writer/actress who, after being raised by an artist father renowned for depicting distorted female genitalia, described in her memoir perusing her little sister’s privates for hidden pebbles.

The serious nature of child molestation cannot and should not be dismissed. It’s just hard to buy all the liberal outrage, because many of those censuring Josh Duggar are fans of slaughtering 4,000 babies a day, and when it comes to hurting children, these same people are unconcerned about the message it sends kids when cult heroes are made of men transitioning from penis to vagina.

jptrigen, sodahead 20 Comments [8/28/2015 6:15:38 PM]
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Quote# 112333

A man claiming to be Bryce Williams called ABC News over the last few weeks, saying he wanted to pitch a story and wanted to fax information. He never told ABC News what the story was.

In the 23-page document faxed to ABC News, the writer says “MY NAME IS BRYCE WILLIAMS” and his legal name is Vester Lee Flanagan II. He writes what triggered today’s carnage was his reaction to the racism of the Charleston church shooting:

“Why did I do it? I put down a deposit for a gun on 6/19/15. The Church shooting in Charleston happened on 6/17/15…”

Sources say Flanagan's firearm was legally purchased from a Virginia gun store.

“What sent me over the top was the church shooting. And my hollow point bullets have the victims’ initials on them."

It is unclear whose initials he is referring to. He continues, “As for Dylann Roof? You (deleted)! You want a race war (deleted)? BRING IT THEN YOU WHITE …(deleted)!!!” He said Jehovah spoke to him, telling him to act.

Later in the manifesto, the writer quotes the Virginia Tech mass killer, Seung Hui Cho, calls him “his boy,” and expresses admiration for the Columbine High School killers. “Also, I was influenced by Seung–Hui Cho. That’s my boy right there. He got NEARLY double the amount that Eric Harris and Dylann Klebold got…just sayin.'"

Sources familiar with the investigation tell ABC News that in his attack, Flanagan used a Glock 19 -- a firearm similar to one that Cho used in his mass attack.

In Flanagan's often rambling letter to authorities, family and friends, he writes of a long list of grievances. In one part of the document, Flanagan calls it a “Suicide Note for Friends and Family."

He says he has been attacked by black men and white females
He talks about how he was attacked for being a gay, black man
He says has suffered racial discrimination, sexual harassment and bullying at work

A source with direct knowledge of his complaints against the station said a pair of tweets sent today and attributed to him accurately reflect previous complaints he lodged against the two people he killed today. These are the two Tweets: “Alison made racist comments,” and, “Adam went to hr on me after working with me one time!!!”

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Nowhere in the document does he make specific threats against anyone from WDBJ.

In his manifesto, he says he encountered "nasty racist things" while working at WDBJ-7 in Roanoke, and that drove him to sue the station. "I marched down to the courthouse and sued WDBJ7 by myself and they settled! HA!"

He continues: "I can remember one day in particular... leaving the courthouse... feeling overwhelmed... confused... even some fear. But by golly I knew I HAD to fight. ... They truly f----d with my life and caused an awful chain of events." He says he even killed his cats in a forest "because of them."

Flanagan says that, "Hell yeah, I made mistakes," noting that he "should not have been so curt" with photographers in Roanoke. "[B]ut you know why I was? The damn news director was a micromanaging tyrant!!"

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And, he writes, "the photogs were out to get me at WDBJ7... one went to HR after only working with me one time... the chief photog told his troops to [record video of] me if they saw be doing something wrong."

Flanagan then suggests that, after leaving WDBJ-7, he was offered a job at a station in Pennsylvania, but WDBJ-7 persuaded the Pennsylvania station to rescind the offer.

"I got to the point, this time around, where I wasn't even looking for a job. I don't need to deal with workplace bullies anymore. THAT is what lawmakers need to focus on," he adds.

“Yes, it will sound like I am angry," he writes in his manifesto. "I am. And I have every right to be. But when I leave this Earth, the only emotion I want to feel is peace....”

“The church shooting was the tipping point…but my anger has been building steadily...I’ve been a human powder keg for a while…just waiting to go BOOM!!!!”

He chronicles the "tough times" he's faced, including some "financial crashes." He says he used to work as a male model but, "I am proud of it" because he "made thousands."

"[I] tried to pull myself up by the bootstraps," but, "The damage was already done and when someone gets to this point, there is nothing that can be said or done to change their sadness to happiness. It does not work that way. Meds? Nah. It's too much."

"And then, after the unthinkable happened in Charleston, THAT WAS IT!!!"

"Yeah I'm all f----- up in the head," he concedes.

Vester Lee Flanagan II, Yahoo! News 8 Comments [8/28/2015 6:14:16 PM]
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The willingness of many people to publicly accept the liberal agenda is done only out of fear of punishment by the liberal media and government -- behind closed doors their real opinions are shared. They are forced from a very young age to accept it by all of the voices of authority in school and media, at threat of very clear punishment, to the extent that many live dual lives of secrecy. Eventually things will be so destabilized by the increasing absurdities of liberal oppression (such as the mockery that is same-sex marriage), that conservatives will shift rightwards very rapidly and a populist right-wing movement will arise, which will also have basically all of the guns. The Internet has done a lot to deconstruct old media hegemony and allow for free-thinking people to escape the obligatory programming. At this time of reckoning, the proponents of liberal agenda will be revealed as the enemies of God that they are and handled appropriately.

heatdeath, r/Christianity/ 11 Comments [8/28/2015 6:12:34 PM]
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(responding to a "story" called "Kentucky Student-Led Pre-Game Prayers Under Fire by Atheist Activists")

Hey, the intolerant and anti-2nd amendment religious zealots of the completely unproven religion of the "there is no God whatsoever" FFRF have found their latest victim! Wow, THAT didn't take long. After their last attempt at defeating the God who doesn't exist failed so miserably they sure bounced back quickly to once again engage... um, "Him," who is not actually there (?!) in glorious battle!

Whew! That was a close one! Certainly don't want the non existent "One" gaining any ground (?) after that last embarrassing defeat! Squashing the prayers of sports teams at this individual school was just the victory FFRF needed to blacken the eye of their sworn enemy, Nobody.
One school down! Every other school in every town and city in every state across America to go! Hee, hee! Better pack a lunch folks!
The war against what isn't there could be a long one!

The Last Trump, Christian News Network 15 Comments [8/28/2015 6:11:59 PM]
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The mayor of Venice has been quoted as saying that he will try to ban Gay Pride parades in the city, provoking fury from gay rights activists.

"There will be no gay pride in my Venice," Luigi Brugnaro told La Repubblica newspaper, describing the event as farcical and kitsch.

However, he said he was not homophobic, insisting he had friends who were gay.


In the interview with La Repubblica newspaper (in Italian), Mr Brugnaro said he firmly opposed hosting the parade in Venice.

"Let them go and do it in Milan, or in front of their own homes," he was quoted as saying.

Mr Brugnaro earlier provoked controversy by withdrawing books that depicted same-sex families from Venice's nurseries and primary schools.

Luigi Brugnaro, BBC News 10 Comments [8/28/2015 6:11:49 PM]
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Quote# 112328

I have no respect for our government or its "founding principles." I uphold traditional Christianity, not Enlightenment, anti-Catholic liberalism, which has resulted in the disgusting, fallen society we have today. Toss the Constitution out, and institute a Catholic monarchy over the United States.

The founders and many of the early Americans were heretics and schismatics and outright non-Christians like Jefferson, I don't put much weight in their opinions or their tolerance of a "diversity of beliefs" which has now reached its inevitable logical end and come to accommodate outright, literal Satanism.

None of the present-day liberal activists have any respect for our founding fathers, either; they constantly critique their personal morality, their decision to allow guns, their tolerance of free speech aka "hate speech", support for religious liberty, etc. so if you think what I'm saying is particularly evil you should consider their views are basically identical, except they want to replace the US with a socialist state instead of a Catholic one.

So far as I can tell, nobody takes the failed American experiment seriously anymore aside for a handful of old boomers, who won't last much longer. Due to this rejection, everyone's gone authoritarian in one direction or the other, and I've made my choice in this regard.

heatdeath, r/Christianity/ 11 Comments [8/28/2015 6:11:40 PM]
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