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Quote# 137352

Good news: Stephen Hawking is no longer an atheist!

Bad news: it’s too late for him to repent of his blasphemy against His Creator and seek God’s mercy!

Woe unto worldly-wise men who forsake God. Don’t follow Hawking to Hell.

Westboro Baptist Church, Twitter 2 Comments [3/19/2018 5:16:58 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 137346

The immediate concern isn't that the Rapture is going to happen on May 14, but it's what is going to happen to the US when they finally make the details of this fiasco public. Every time one of the US Presidents have tried to give away God land to the muzzies, God has brought disaster from a hurricane that formed where NO hurricanes form and went SOUTH instead of north and then turned EAST across Kinnybunkport, Maine and destroyed G.H.W. Bush's vacation mansion when he announced giving away God's land to them "for peace" to three hurricanes and other weather disasters plus huge fires in California when Jared was in Arabia mapping the preliminaries to this so called plan. And according to the leaked information on it, Biblical Jerusalem is going to be given to the muzzies as their capital, leaving so called W. Jerusalem (not the real Jerusalem) for the Jews (as I said last year would happen and got laughed at for saying it. You have to think about it the way the non-Americans do in order to see this. Europeans and other nations have always seen them as TWO "Jerusalems" (Or a divided capital to use their terms). And suddenly some wild weather came streaming out of the Arctic into the E. Coast right over D.C. (the White House) when Jared got the Arabs and Jews in closed session conference to try to make the give away of God's land to the muzzies.

Why is this a concern greater than a May 14th Rapture. Because I tell you the Rapture isn't going to happen on that date - why? because all the "experts" are setting that as "THE DATE" it's going to happen. If anything, Biblically speaking, the Rapture will happen during at the LAST TRUMPET of the Feast of Trumpets (or the Jewish Biblical New Year). This setting the time in the Spring based on Song of Solomon has no Biblical validity. The only reason for any attempt at validity is that this site has tried to make it mean that.

Just Mat, Now The End Begins 2 Comments [3/19/2018 5:16:17 AM]
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Quote# 137345

I cannot know for sure if it will collapse on that date or even this year.; I have this information from a lawyer who was pretty sure of what he was telling our mutual friend. I'm ass-uming that it might happen on the 14th of May, as that would be a pretty opportune time to take the shine off Israel's special day of celebration, would it not?

It could happen sooner, but I hope not! Either way, it will put us all out of business, and watch out for the microchip implant/mark of the beast. We won't need to worry about investments or getting our money out of the bank, as it will be as valuable as it was in Hitler's day....they burned their cash by the wheelbarrow loads for heat. When the dollar does collapse, it will be a reset, such as the world has never seen before! It will be what the NWO has been working hard to bring about for over two hundred years! Here are some current links you might want to peruse on the immediate topic:

China Just Launched this Attack on the USD
Trump Just Launched this Massive Opportunity for Silver
Unsuspecting Americans to be Hit Hard by this U.S. Scheme to Confiscate Your Savings
[URGENT POLL] Do You Trust Big Government to Manage Your Savings?

Skywatcher57, Now The End Begins 2 Comments [3/19/2018 5:16:13 AM]
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Quote# 137341

The followers of any religion are extremists. They literally believe that proud atheists like you and I will burn in a pit of fire for eternity for our horrible transgression of free thinking.

Just because some of them aren't vocal about it doesn't mean they aren't thinking it. It is literally in their book of myths. They hate us because we think for ourselves. Why defend them?

CarCarpetCity, r/atheism 14 Comments [3/18/2018 12:44:04 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 137338

Actually, this is not correct. These two "consenting adults" engaging in sodomy are harming themselves. And the harm is both physical and spiritual. The physical harm is evident in another thread on UF that Abu Mubarak maintained, I would have to search for it.

The spiritual harm is more than just "religious", it alters the self, one desires filth and impurity and resents and despises purity, modesty, virtue. This is why homosexuals have one of the highest suicide rates, because they are conscious of their own degradation and defilement, their own desire for impurity, and despise themselves for it.

Abu Kamel, Ummah 9 Comments [3/18/2018 12:41:37 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 137337

There are things as a muslim I will never accept in this case zina or homosexuality. I will not change my beliefs just to make the kuffar happy. In an islamic state these people will be killed.

Basil_1, Ummah 8 Comments [3/18/2018 12:41:31 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 137336

Not only are homosexuals sinners, they are some of the most vile, most perverted, most twisted, sick, confused, cowardly and lowly creatures in this world. This is evident when you remember that Allah (swt) wiped them all out in Prophet Lot's time. Allah did not do that to just any kuffar, only to the worst.We have to be very careful and aware of the plans and ambitions of the shaytan and his followers. We have to make sure that our friends, family and brothers and sisters in deen are protected from their ambitions. Especially our young ones are vulnerable to the efforts of the kuffar.

That being said, my heart aches whenever it comes to my mind that the army of the shaytan will most likely succeed in leading especially young, ignorant Muslims away from Islam and filling their hearts and minds with their own disgusting lifestyles and ideologies and ways of thinking and acting. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me, if this is how the world will look like shortly before the end. A bunch of kuffar and a bunch of "moderate" "Muslims" who are barely any different from them, following a corrupted, false religion, superficially resembling Islam, made suitable to the law and order of the shaytan. It wouldn't surprise me if the day the last real Muslim dies, is the day the world ends.

Of course, this is just me rambling...

A_Piece_of_Dirt, Ummah 6 Comments [3/18/2018 12:41:13 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 137333

Where do normies get the idea that teenagers are rebellious and think for themselves even in the slightest? Anyone with over 5/10 observation skills will see that this isn't true at all, chad, stacy and normies are just copies of other chads, stacies and normies

This is their programming, simply put:

> ugly male: bully/join others in bullying him

> Math & physics: God

> See dumb professor saying bullshit about a student: laugh

This is basically it and it's why elementary and high school will take over 95% of the emotional strength you will ever need in life as an incel in the south east, anyone who's not a fucking moron is gonna tell you that

And being a professor here is for purely worthless people who don't want to be held up to literally anything while holding up fucking 15 year olds to standards that the majority of adults would instantly kill themselves if they were forced to endure, even enforcing the bullshit that students have to sit up when a professor walks in the room... no matter how strict they get about it, honoring someone because they decided to waste their life away on pointless nonsense and to torture people (who want to do a thing with life and not just be a pathetic slave working long hours because they fell for the trap for "let's work in a gaming company even if I'm not the game designer and just code like a failure") is stupid and folly

southeastcel, incels.me 14 Comments [3/18/2018 12:38:46 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 137331

Are you honestly trying to tell everyone else that Christianity must be censored, except where people like you give their permission? This is why we have a Constitution in the first place - to protect freedom of religion from anti-Christian fascists.

On a school by school basis, if the people that go there do not mind such a thing, then they have the freedom to allow it. If that particular school (the people that go there) do NOT want it there, then they have the freedom to disallow it.

It's called democracy, it's called freedom, it's called the United States of America, and it woks great.

But then you have atheists (they're not humanists as they do not mind sacrificing tens of millions of human beings on the altar of personal convenience and call that "abortion") who behave like fascists and demand that in every school across the country, it's their beliefs that rule and it doesn't matter if the majority at that school do not mind Christianity be offered - the atheist fascists will rage and threaten until only their belief system of "you're just an animal - a cosmic accident" be taught to the kids, let alone as a lie that it's a fact instead of another belief system, and that's not even optional.

So if they do not want schools on a case by case basis to decide for themselves (by the people that go to that particular school) they do not mind having an elective Christianity lesson there, then the belief system of "you're an animal - a cosmic accident" needs to be removed as well. But the fact you do not mind that belief system is force-fed on every school exposes the hypocrisy of the fascists pretending to be atheists.

Search on public school islam and read all about how more and more public schools are teaching kids all about islam while censoring Christianity. Please cite your posts against that which is far worse than what you complain about here. It exposes the atheists as really pro-islamists using atheism as a way to eradicate Christianity one piece at a time.

Reason2012, Christian News Network 15 Comments [3/18/2018 11:59:42 AM]
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Quote# 137329

They as well as Taiwan and Korea have overtaken in academic performance. Is it down to culture? Partially. Is it a coincidence that genetically similar countries - Taiwan, Korea and Japan have a similar culture? No. Culture is largely a result of genetics as well as genetics being driven by culture. For example some children naturally focus in lessons, some naturally don't. Same goes for parents, some naturally value academic performance, some don't. The ratio between do and don't is naturally different in a general sense between different racial groups leading to different cultures.

k543, Reddit 3 Comments [3/18/2018 11:03:28 AM]
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Quote# 137328

Comments RE: Feminists join men-only swim in protest of proposed law to enable people to self-identify as male or female

The trans movement rides on the back of the gay rights movement, appearing to be progressive whilst actually being totally regressive - it is misogynistic and homophobic to say that if you have feminine traits then you must be a woman, and vice Verda

It is especially funny to watch the row in the Labour Party about this as ex-men invade women's only short lists.

(Monica Vieira)
Yes, it's so funny isn't it. I hope women see how much fun men are having with all of this. This will radicalize a lot of feminists and in the end women will have the last laugh.

So you're a misandrist. At least admit it rather than hiding behind feminism. Got dumped did you?

Sunday Politics was a joy. Watching Labour representatives try to pretend when Milne and Corbyn tried to pretend Russia were not to blame for the attack in Salisbury they were really saying Russia was to blame.

Then, that women's short lists could contain those who self identified but was a problem. Then one of the panelists gave the helpful suggestion that one solution would be to get rid of the women's own list and choose based on merit.

(Monica Vieira)
If the choice was based on merit, males wouldn't be the majority of representatives, dear.

"one of the panelists gave the helpful suggestion that one solution would be to get rid of the women's own list"

Yes, the end goal of all of this is to destroy everything that women have fought for, like women's shortlists that only exist because of the historical discrimination against women in politics (and society in general).

Good luck with that.

we are getting to the point of the circle where feminists are realizing they are different to men. and need different treatment and protection... eventually theyll be demanding to stay at home doing embroidery. ... not that i am saying that would be better.... but they will never be satisfied.

Feminism and identity politics are disappearing up their own ridiculous rear ends.

Hilarious to observe.

Love the way this is all men’s fault. The feminist lobby has pushed for “transgender” rights past the point of logic and to the point of absurdity. Now the predictable results are happening they don’t like the results. Lucky it isn’t getting gender equality in conscription laws just prior to a major war where the government wants cannon fodder.

Have these Self identification nutters ever heard of Perverts?

Those that believe in science understand that, apart from cases of genital ambiguity, a very rare condition, most cases of 'trans' are just wish-fulfillment.

(mark anthony)
I totally agree with them but I was not under the impression that it was men driving the law forward . It is transsexuals who want to claim what they see as their rightful pace in society who are demanding a law change and in this day of political correctness who is to deny them

Strange that they view the law from a purely female point. is that not sexist?

(Monica Vieira)
Men only see things from a male point. Are you complaining about equality? :)

Men are having fun watching women's sports being destroyed by males who claim to be women and females on testosterone who claim to be men but are not allowed to play against men (yes, this is happening too).

Men don't care about anything unless it affects them. What I really want is to see feminists doing stunts that actually harm men.

So if you think that women standing up for themselves is sexist, GREAT. Get used to it.

various commenters, The Independent 6 Comments [3/18/2018 11:03:11 AM]
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Quote# 137327


Female activists took a group of male swimmers by surprise on Friday evening when they attended a men-only swim session wearing just swimming trunks and pink swimming caps.

Amy Desir, 30, was one of the two women to gain access to the South London pool session as part of a protest against proposed changes to the Gender Recognition Act that would enable men and women to choose their own gender.

Both women explained their attendance to staff at Dulwich Leisure Centre by saying they “identified as male” and subsequently had the right to be there.

They also used the male changing rooms before going into the session and were later asked by an elderly man if they realised this was a male-only session.

Their actions form part of a nationwide campaign formed on Mumsnet called #ManFriday which encourages women to “self-identify” as men every Friday in protest of the proposed amendments to gender laws that would enable people to self-identify as men or women.

“The aim of the group is to raise awareness among men of the misogynistic and homophobic pro-self-ID policies that are allowing men to appropriate women’s spaces, services and positions,” Desir told The Independent.

“Most men either aren’t aware of the issue or don’t think it has anything to do with them.”

There are currently 91 women taking part in #ManFriday, revealed the mother-of-two, all of whom self-ID as men every Friday to access men-only spaces.

“We don’t change anything about our appearance, or pretend to be in the process of transitioning, just state that we are men.”

Desir and her fellow campaigners are concerned that the proposed legislation would enable predatory men to abuse women in single sex spaces by self-identifying as female.

“We want to challenge the idea that sex and gender are interchangeable and for organisations to use the lawful exemptions in the Equality Act to protect the rights, safety, dignity and privacy of women,” Desir added.

“We also want women’s organisations to be consulted on proposed changes to the law.”

Desir has launched an online petition calling for these concerns to be considered; it currently has more than 5,700 signatures.

various TERFs, The Independent 7 Comments [3/18/2018 11:03:07 AM]
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Quote# 137323

[When you grand plan is simply telling a bunch of lies]

I've thought one way we can get realtalk dispersed widely among the normies is through a "deepfake" psy ops, in which so many celebs and politicians and business leaders are spoofed into saying ugly truths that the mass denials which inevitably follow would so saturate the airwaves we dissidents would have our work done for us.

Heartiste, Gab 7 Comments [3/18/2018 12:49:55 AM]
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Quote# 137322

The Bible proves itself but Simon thinks that is circular reasoning. I'm done posting to him for that reason.

Maryjj, ravingatheists 11 Comments [3/18/2018 12:49:39 AM]
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Quote# 137320

A message to shitlibs begging for Civil War 2:

You will lose.

It'll be over in two weeks.

You have no guns.

You are concentrated in urban centers.

You'd starve once the roads, bridges and tunnels are blocked.

And the survivors among you will be eaten by your third world pets.

Be careful what you wish for!



Heartiste, Gab 19 Comments [3/18/2018 12:49:29 AM]
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Quote# 137318

Sally Edwards:
This isn't about denying a creator, it's about there being nothing about transgenderism in the Bible. And there isn't.

Amos Moses:
WOW .... because i have been in NUMEROUS conversations right here on this forum ..... where it was claimed that it DOES ...... so which is wrong ..... YOU ..... or the "TRANSGENDERED" person i had the conversations with .......... do tell ..... which of you is a liar ............

Sally Edwards:
Look Amos, it isn’t hard. Either present me with scripture that specifically addresses transgenderism or admit it does not appear anywhere in the Bible. And invite anyone you know to do the same.

Amos Moses:
as i said .... AGAIN .....i have been in NUMEROUS conversations right here on this forum ..... WITH "TRANSGENDERED" PERSONS ...... or so they claim .......... where THEY claimed that it DOES appear in scripture ...... and that it is NOT a SIN ........ so are YOU ..... or the "TRANSGENDERED" person i had the conversations with LYING .......... do tell ..... which of you is a liar .............. YOU are on the "TRANSGENDERED" side of this issue ..... your position is DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED to their position ...... you both CANNOT be telling the truth ....... so ..... AGAIN ...... which of you IS LYING .....

Sally Edwards:
So you can't name the scripture. Consider the matter settled. Thank you.

Amos Moses:
MATTHEW 19 ........ that is the scripture they used .............. so WHICH OF YOU IS LYING ..... the "transgendered" person OR YOU ...........
OR since they are saying it does talk about them and that it is not sin and YOU are saying it does not talk about them .... YOU are calling them LIARS ..............
do i understand your position correctly ............ those "transgendered" persons LIED .........

Sally Edwards:
I don't care who used it. It doesn't say transgendered or specifically refer to them. They are wrong and so are you.

Amos Moses:
so when it says ..........
19:11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
that is not them ...... and YOU are calling THEM LIARS ............ and they are wrong and you are right ..... WHY .............

Sally Edwards:
Eunuchs are not transgendered people. That's why.

Amos Moses:
WHY .... who says ... YOU say so ..... WHY .... what are YOUR qualifications to make that judgement ...... those "transgenders" are reading the exact same text ...... what makes you smarter than them ...... are YOU a "transgender" ..........

Sally Edwards:
Because they're not transgendered people, Amos. They have entirely different definitions. Do you know what a transgendered person is? Maybe you don't and that explains why you're so unsympathetic to them. A eunuch is a sexless person. A transgendered person still has a gender.

Amos Moses:
they were TRANSGENDERED persons saying that ... are you calling them stupid ...... that they do not know what they read and they do not know WHAT they are .... YOU are SMARTER than they are as to WHAT THEY ARE ............. ARE YOU SERIOUS ............. and then YOU have the temerity to say " Do you know what a transgendered person is?" .... are you saying THEY do not know ...............

Sally Edwards:
In the first place I'm sure they didn't say that, I think you're probably misquoting them. Secondly it's not a difficult concept, the idea of transgenderism is relatively new, and so it could not possibly have appeared in the Bible.

Amos Moses, Christian News Network 11 Comments [3/18/2018 12:46:18 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 137317

Stephen Hawking was regarded by his peers as the smartest scientist since Albert Einstein, his book entitled A Brief History Of Time sold over 10 million copies. But Stephen Hawking and his celebrated intellect was unable to grasp one simple truth that my kids all had a hold of before the age of 10. That everyone of us are sinners who need a Saviour, and that Jesus Christ is the promised Messiah of Israel who paid our sin debt on the cross 2,000 years ago. Ironically, in the same words where he steadfastly denied the very existence of the God of the Bible, he said he was ‘grateful for the grand design’ of the universe. Hmm….any first year art student will tell you that without a Designer there can be no design. Hawking at this very moment is hyper-aware of the reality that God does exist, that Jesus Christ is the only way, and that Heaven is real. But sadly, that information does him no good now. He died in his sins with no one to pay for them but himself. Want to be smarter than the smartest man in the world? Ask Jesus to save you on the basis of His death, burial and resurrection, and when you die, instead of burning in a fiery Hell reserved for the Devil, his angels and the unsaved, you’ll be in Heaven with Jesus. Heaven or Hell? You don’t need a college education to see which one of the those two things is better.

Geoffrey Grider, Now The End Begins 14 Comments [3/18/2018 12:42:48 AM]
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Quote# 137314

Dead Works Are Man's Works

Cain tried to impress God with the work of his hands. Cain worked hard tilling his fields day and night, irrigating and weeding daily. Cain grew some nice crops, a bumper harvest no doubt, and brought the best of the best to offer to God. The Lord instantly rejected Cain's DEAD WORKS!!! They were “dead” because they were based in human effort, and not upon God's redemptive plan for mankind. Isaiah 64:6 warns that all of man's self-righteousness is as “filthy rags” in God's sight. Man's very best is offensive to our holy God. This is a difficult truth for many people to grasp. You could spend your entire adult life helping, building and sacrificially giving to operate orphanages for poor, starving and naked little children, and yet, go straight to Hell to burn in the torments of God's wrath for ever and ever in your sins. No amount of good deeds can counter the evil deeds (Ecclesiastes 12:14), manipulative ungodly thoughts (Proverbs 24:12) and idle words (Matthew 12:36), for which all men must give account at the Judgment Seat of God.

Ungodly Playboy singer and actor, Frank Sinatra (one of the shady “Rat Pack”), donated $100,000,000 of his amassed fortune upon his death to help suffering children in orphanages. That was a nice gesture, but not one penny of Sinatra's philanthropy can buy him out of the Lake of Fire. Sinatra was a lifelong shallow Catholic, trusting in the sacraments of a Mary-worshipping cult to save him. Sinatra was an outspoken critic against organized religion, but he never professed any faith in Jesus Christ either. By all indications Sinatra died in his sins without having ever personally received Jesus Christ as His Savior. So sad! So tragic!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 9 Comments [3/18/2018 12:42:25 AM]
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Quote# 137312

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Studies show: Sexual orientation top risk for suicidal thoughts in college freshmen (non-Christians)"

From Fox News:
Nearly one third of first-year college students have thought about suicide, according to a study across eight countries, and non-heterosexual identity or feelings were the biggest risks for this kind of thinking or behavior.

Having a religion other than Christianity, being female, having unmarried parents or at least one deceased parent and being age 20 or older were also important risk factors, though being a sexual minority also carried the highest risk of transitioning from suicidal thoughts to plans to attempts, the researchers found.

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified. Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Lady Checkmate:
Seek Jesus Christ, find Truth, choose life and live.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 7 Comments [3/18/2018 12:41:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 137310

(The subject in question is Vice-President Mike Pence and his crazy Dominioninst leanings)

One man crusade against women? Next he declared Jihad and blew himself up?

He perceives abortion as equal to the Holocaust in terms of evil; as do many Americans. You are shocked that he would take steps put restrictions on it? Again you didn't actually go into his beliefs or positions; you went into policy that you disagreed with him on and made a bunch of assumptions and leverage a whole bunch of hate.

Dominionist is a made up term by ignorant people who are fearmongering. There is no such thing. No more than there is a "War on Christmas". The term was coined in the 90's by rabid atheists who wanted to generate fear Christian influence in the government. I say that as someone who is agnostic and have no stance on religion.

"As a non-American"

And there it is. As a non-American your fears are irrelevant and pointless in this discussion as it is not your society or your people. Perhaps you should worry about your own people and government which is likely shitting all over your civil liberty and you are too busy "fearing" about a politican over seas with no real political power.

"he terrifies me just as much as Donald Trump does; the only difference is that no one knows what craziness is at work in Trump's mind, but we can predict - to a point - the craziness in Mike Pence's mind."

Your ignorance and bigoted positions should terrify you. Take the time to self reflect that you can't abide people who hold different political, philosophical, and moral positions than you. That speaks volumes about you; and little about the people you are screaming at. So before you start trying to even fix your own society; take the time to reflect inward. As trying to change the world around you before even having a solid foundation within is a sure way to cause diaster and conflict.

"Oh, and by the way, SANE people don't hear voices telling them what to do."

Sane people have a moral compass. Religious people feel that their spiritual figure be it Jesus, Mohamad, or God is helping guide that moral compass. Religious people spend their lives trying to live up to what their god perceives as good and just. Decent people don't go around telling people they are crazy because they hold religious beliefs. You could easily say "I disagree with the moral teachings of your religion, or at least parts of it" and work from there using critical thinking and rational arguments.

But instead let us just spew hate and project evil onto those people while making vast generalizations about them and their intentions. Don't be controlled by your emotions. The more decisions you make based on emotions the more likely you are being manipulated; and you are clearly being manipulated by specific political interests here.

avalatis, Deviantart 5 Comments [3/18/2018 12:41:29 AM]
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Quote# 137305

Random Boy:

Relative to Jesus being a pacifist, it is as true as Him having long hair or not hating anybody. NOT!

As always we must look to the Bible (KJV 1611 ONLY) relative to absolutely any belief we may hold. The Bible tells us that Jesus approved of His Father's command that children who cursed their parents should be stoned to death (Matthew 15:3-4). Does this sound like pacifism, forgiveness, and love to you? It is BLATANT INTOLERANCE for anyone that does not follow the Word! Jesus told his disciples to bring before Him any non-believer and to slaughter that non-believer to death right before Jesus' eyes (Luke 19:27). Yes this is a parable, but it refers to His second coming. But the main facts are that JESUS spoke this parable, therefore the KILLING reference is attributed to Him! Does one KILL because they love someone or because they HATE them? Heathens are such ignorant dolts!

More so, Jesus had one man eaten alive by a swarm of worms because the man failed to give Jesus His due (Acts 12:23). Jesus struck a Jew blind for thwarting His teachings. He struck a man dumb for not paying close enough attention (Luke 1:20). He SCARED a husband and wife to DEATH for not giving Him all the money they made on a real estate transaction!!!! (Acts 5:1-10). Does this sound like love and forgiveness to you? Jesus had to hate these people to be able to do these abhorred acts. This is the Jesus that we know, love, and worship.

Jesus told us we are to live in constant fear of God for He can torture us forever in Hell (Luke 12:5). This is why we must take a rather abusive manner regarding the heathen that does not follow ALL of the doctrines and precepts within the Bible. We don't have time to sugar-coat Gods word, H-E-L-L-O!

If one opts for Christianity, it is beyond me to think that anyone is able to extrapolate from the Bible that of which they accept, the lovey dovey Jesus loves me parts, and not be held responsible for the obligation of the whole where our Savior is KILLING AND TORTURING His creation! I for one cannot usurp what God has written regarding how His Son reacted in certain instances, therefore setting an example, can you?

In the name of our Savior,
Brother T

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D., Disqus -- Grace and Truth 21 Comments [3/16/2018 3:25:00 PM]
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Quote# 137304

Cardi B Wells, Twitter 22 Comments [3/16/2018 3:24:37 PM]
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Quote# 137292

I think the big difference is that, when DNA research is able to objectively and without doubt state the intelligence and capacities of an individual, people will be classified and assigned jobs per their capacities.

Right now we can all accept the 'feel good message' of "you can do whatever you want" and I could even say that in a way we live in a society that really doesn't block you from thriving and reaching wherever you can. But once this science is matured and treated as known facts, then castes might be explicit. Even, I'm thinking that culturally, the western world is going down, and who's rising? China, Asian culture, and I think this is more prone to castes, so if China becomes the hegemonic nation, our "I can be whatever I want" goes bye bye.

Luis Sanchez, Information Processing 14 Comments [3/16/2018 1:14:42 AM]
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Quote# 137280

(in response to this quote)

@(the submitter):
I guess it depends what your moral framework is. I don't particularly care about being nice to people, I care about civilised nations being developed. Trying to raise up natives to be civilised is an incredibly slow process that's still not borne very great results to this day, in comparison to wiping them out and replacing them with Europeans, such as with Australia which is a highly successful modern country.

How very civilised of you...

You are not the saviours of the West. You are not the last champions of the Occident. You are the barbarian throwbacks trying to bring down Civilisation from within.

Compassion for the undeserving isn't what created the modern world, it's a decadent excess in its decline. The people who created modernity were by your standard 'barbaric' in their attitudes, which is why your standard is absurd.

Compassion isn't civilisation.

Australia is being nice to the remaining aboriginals, and the results are unimpressive. Meanwhile the colonists, who were originally criminals, are very civilised.

Compassion for the undeserving isn't what created the modern world, it's a decadent excess in its decline.

Spoken like one indeed undeserving of compassion.

Our civilisation is neither decadent and decline. It's just that much of society has become complacent to your ilk.
The people who created modernity were by your standard 'barbaric' in their attitudes, which is why your standard is absurd.

They were still ahead of their times, and you would have hated them if they lived back then. Meanwhilel, your ideologies are quite literally the very antithesis of modernity, only exploiting and superficially supporting whatever seems useful for your vile goals and/or your ego.

The way I see it, economic and technological progress was the real progress, and changes to social values were usually a superficial thing that followed the 'real' progress, and have currently gone too far. Only in a few cases like the Reformation would I say that a moral change actually aided technological and economic advancement.

That's some funny trashtalking from both of us.

I like to only partly ironically talk about how I wish Thomas Paine had been executed for treason, and how it's a tragedy that Emperor Julian's attempted restoration of paganism against insurgent Christianity fizzled. So 'you would have hated them if they lived back then' is totally right.

-Reactionary_Vizier-, r/DebateAltRight 9 Comments [3/15/2018 1:07:47 PM]
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I guess it depends what your moral framework is. I don't particularly care about being nice to people, I care about civilised nations being developed. Trying to raise up natives to be civilised is an incredibly slow process that's still not borne very great results to this day, in comparison to wiping them out and replacing them with Europeans, such as with Australia which is a highly successful modern country.

-Reactionary_Vizer-, r/DebateAltRight 10 Comments [3/15/2018 9:49:52 AM]
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