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Quote# 122201

This is the core of the whole matter. Nothingness produces nothing. Productive nothingness is never been observed. Its probability is zero. God created the heavens and the earth - everything in the universe and beyond. Planet Earth contains the accurate records of it, the Holy Bible, just like the signature of an artist on an artwork and also as the Maker's Manual for users' life. And the evidences are unmistakable. The probability is 100%. Atheists just want filthy autonomy against the Creator God, continuing their evil. You won't have your way in His world for long. You are revealing exactly what you are made of in the short lifespan you are on earth by how you regard your Creator God. Read Colossians chapter 1 to find how everything came into being. The universe has a purpose of creation from the Creator God. Repent of your sinful unbelief to get saved.

Grace Kim Kwon, Christian News Network 9 Comments [10/23/2016 7:51:49 AM]
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Quote# 122200

Yes it was and then on the 4th day HE created lights in the sky. HE created a light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night. The sun, moon and the stars placed in the sky were given also so that man could calculate times and seasons. Look at free documentary's online on flat earth. After studying and using my own eyes to look at horizons , the stars, moon and sun, along with historical evidence and the biblical account of Creation ,I know longer believe what the government told me about the world. To me they have taken the biblical account and turned it upside down. Making everything revolve around the sun, which is contrary to what the bible says and what scientists and historical artifacts claimed up until nasa.

ComeOnPeople!, Christian News Network 11 Comments [10/23/2016 7:30:40 AM]
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Quote# 122199

How Hillary, the most robotic candidate ever, had to be prompted by staff to “smile”

Must. Get. Elected. Must. Say. Anything. To. Get. Elected.

These must be Hillary Clinton’s inner thoughts. She is the most robotic person I’ve ever seen! Every step in her campaign has seemed phony, every motion and emotion seems planned out to the “T.” Her leaked emails show a candidate and campaign that’s beyond “micromanaged, highly scripted, and poll-tested.” It’s clear she’s not a genuine person.

Recently leaked Wikileaks emails tell the sorry, odd tale of Hillary Clinton. Click here to read how she had to be reminded to smile, how it took multiple people and lots of time to get the “right tweet,” and how her staff said she lived in a bubble of privilege.

Do you think she really cares about the people she’s trying to win over?

Do you think she cares our children’s future?

About our military?

Or crimes we have in inner cities?

Do you think she cares about any of us hard working, middle class Americans?

Her team has to pencil in “smile” in her responses!!

I know Donald Trump is far from perfect – we all are – but I would rather have someone in office that fights for what is best for our country – and not someone in office who is so desperately willing to DO ANYTHING to get elected.

Do these professional politicians really think the American people don’t see behind their smoke screen? Does Hillary really think that those of us who work “menial” jobs to put food on the table – jobs like I have had in coffee shops, baby sitting, hardware stores, commercial fishing, etc. – believe for one second that her decade’s long – privileged lifestyle – connects her to us?

It’s not so much that this multi, multi, millionaire is pretending to understand middle class struggles by faking it for a few hours in our shoes, it’s that she shows disdain for our brains when assuming we’ll fall for this!

At least Trump doesn’t pretend to be something he is not. He’s been a builder and boss for decades, and he proudly, commendably wears that on his sleeve.

That’s the problem with typical politicians like Hillary. They’re so disconnected from our normal working class like that they have to conspire how to gin up the appearance of connection. We see right through it, it turns us off and causes too many voters to just stay home Election Day because this is seen as a phony actors in a really bad performance who disrespected our intelligence.

Hillary Clinton is exactly like Barrack Obama, they will tell you what they want to hear, but will get in office and do whatever is on their sponsored agenda. Whom ever they’ve made deals with!!

We’ve already had eight years of it!!!! Wake up! Aren’t you tired of it yet?

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Bristol Palin, Patheos 16 Comments [10/23/2016 5:47:45 AM]
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Quote# 122198

Yesterday, Alex Jones repeated his claim that Hillary Clinton is literally demonic, this time while speaking with longtime anti-Clinton crusader Larry Nichols.

Nichols said Clinton had attended “a witches’ church” in Los Angeles “every four to six weeks” while she lived in Arkansas and “is pure, deep, evil, mean, meaner than anything you’d come in contact with.”

“I can’t look at her,” Jones said. “I’m really sick of her. She’s a damn demon. It seemed to really get to them that I called them demons.” He then said that sources close to Clinton told him that she is “totally filthy” and smells “like rotting meat,” before comparing her to Linda Blair’s character in “The Exorcist.”

“Obama, I’ve been told, smells like rotting meat,” he added. “Now, the Bible says this is what demons smell like.”

Alex Jones & Larry Nichols, Right Wing Watch 15 Comments [10/23/2016 5:47:06 AM]
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Quote# 122197

(about what Donald Trump said in the 2005 video)

The milk sops who are attacking Trump over this comment are criticizing his lack of politeness—the meek language we adopt whenever we find ourselves in mixed company. If his statements had been made in public they might have had a point—a frank conversation about bowel movements belongs in the doctor’s office, not at the dinner table, and telling a woman you barely know that you’d like to “grab her pussy” is the sort of social maladjustment that suggests a temperamental problem—but this was nothing more than a small clip of a long conversation, all of which happened behind closed doors, and exclusively amongst other men. Nobody present was offended—Bush’s own replies affirmed and agreed with Trump’s—and any man who denies having had a similar conversation is a bald faced liar.

Yes, the conversation was rude, but rude is not immoral; the behaviour that married couples get up to in the marital bed is also rude, and yet St Paul commands married couples to do it well, and to do it often. If you walked into a confessional and told the priest that you wanted to kiss pretty girls, he’d give you five Hail Marys for wasting his time, and even a nun like Mother Angelica can enjoy a bit of rude humor: after reading a Galatians 15:21 on her television show, she joked, “…drunkenness, orgies, and other things—oh my; I’m curious about what these other things might be!”

What sort of world is this where we expect Donald Trump to be better behaved than a Catholic nun? And what sort of hypocrites make up the Republican establishment, if this off-hand remark offends them? Do the indiscretions of the Democrats in general, and the Clintons in particular, even warrant a mention at this point? Or can we simply state that we’re living in a world of puritanical hypocrites, who promote the most depraved and debauched culture seen on this planet since the fall of Rome, but who are more than happy to scream “Pervert!” at their enemy because he once patted his wife’s derriere while boarding a plane?

Davis M.J. Aurini, Return of Kings 18 Comments [10/23/2016 5:46:15 AM]
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Quote# 122193

Amen, brother. Glad to see someone on this site has some sense. Though I don't agree with you when you say "Interracial dating is a joke." It's not a joke, friend. Its a threat to our society and the Christian community. Millions of people are being fled away from Christ by choosing to be attracted to this abomination of nature and God. Millions of people are going to burn in hell for eternity for not accepting Jesus Christ into their life by not dating someone of the same race as you. It's a sad world we live in, I know, but do not fear for I have decided to do something about it. Something Jesus Christ would want from us true Christians and not the Satanic worshippers that thinks Christ would want them to be dating a BLACK man! What we need to do is simply kill all the Blacks. Put e'm cages, throw them in cells, beat them to the curb along with the gays and the disabled. There will be less Satan and more God in this world. It's time for us Christians to take a stand!!!

Source(s): #ChristianLivesMatter

Dild0 Swaggins, Yahoo! Answers 8 Comments [10/23/2016 5:41:20 AM]
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Quote# 122192

(Not new, but notable)

According to a hedge fund manager writing in the Wall Street Journal, homelessness isn’t caused by deep-seated inequities in society, but rather by people like his teenage son who volunteer at homeless shelters.

Andy Kessler, who founded the billion-dollar Palo Alto investment firm Velocity Capital Management, penned an op-ed Monday in which he mocked young people for volunteering, arguing that they were delusional for thinking their efforts would make a difference. Instead, Kessler contended, they should try to make as much money as possible and trust that economic growth will help the world more than volunteering.

To illustrate his argument, Kessler points to his 16-year-old son, who has been volunteering at a homeless shelter. Though his son wants to do good, Kessler writes that it’s volunteers like him who are keeping homeless people on the streets “because someone is feeding, clothing and, in effect, bathing them.” The answer, instead, is old-fashioned trickle-down economics:

My 16-year-old son volunteers with an organization that feeds the homeless and fills kits with personal-hygiene supplies for them. It’s a worthwhile project, and I tell him so?—?but he doesn’t like it when our conversation on the way to his minimum-wage job turns to why these homeless folks aren’t also working. Perhaps, I suggest, because someone is feeding, clothing and, in effect, bathing them? […]

Given the massive wealth created in the U.S. economy over the past 30-plus years, it’s understandable that the mantra of the guilty generation is sustainability and recycling. But obsessing over carbon footprints and LEED certifications and free-range strawberries and charging for plastic bags will not help the world nearly as much as good old-fashioned economic growth. Gen-G will wise up to the reality that the way to improve lives is to get to work. If Woodstockers figured this out, so will they?—?as soon as they get over their guilt.

It’s highly unlikely that Kessler, an extraordinarily wealthy man who managed a hedge fund for years, has ever known what it’s like to go hungry or sleep on the streets, where random acts of violence are all too com

Andy Kessler, Think Progress 16 Comments [10/23/2016 5:41:12 AM]
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Quote# 122191

It's amazing to me how so many Christians pretend like they've suddenly become 'prayer warriors' as it relates to this election cycle. Ask a typical Christian who they're voting for, and they'll give some nebulous answer like:

"I just don't know who to vote for. Both candidates are evil. The end times are here so it really doesn't matter anyway. We need to just pray and ask God to give us discernment on who to vote for."

Really? You really need God to tell you not to vote for the candidate supported by the witches? If you can't clearly see who to vote for in this election at this stage in the game, praying for discernment won't help you - because your discernment is already too jacked up for God to use!

And where was all this 'prayer warrior-ship' when Obama was running for office? Some of you will claim God told you to vote for Obama - and that joker turned right around and championed some of the most anti-Christian legislation ever enacted by a government since Jesus Christ Himself walked the earth!

Especially you black Christians. Some of you even have the nerve to have pictures of Obama in your churches! The most pro-gay anti-Christian non-helpful to blacks Presidents we've had since Woodrow Wilson - and some of you honor him with a cherished place on your church wall???

So much for your discernment!

Look, it's not rocket science. One candidate clearly supports blatant anti-Christian laws and agendas. While the other candidate clearly supports pro-Christian laws and agendas. We don't need a vision from God or an angel to descend from the heavens telling us who a Christian should vote for if they're going to vote at all.

Here's a hint: go with the person the witches do NOT want to win. They (witches and warlocks) recognize it's a spiritual war. Only Christians who are caught up in the cares of this life (shopping, gossip, eating, entertainment, dating, etc) are running around talking about praying (which most won't do anyway) instead of actually praying. Remember: faith without works is dead.

I'm sure those witches currently invoking witchcraft against Trump aren't sitting this one out by not voting either. They'll be right there on election day standing in voting lines that should be occupied with believers; who will instead be at home pretending like they're praying and still waiting to hear from God; when they're really waiting for the latest episode of Empire to air. Smh

Mack Major, Facebook 15 Comments [10/23/2016 4:03:44 AM]
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Quote# 122188

I've done what I can, I will keep fighting for Trump until the very end, what else can I do?

I am trying to do everything that I can:

I am praying for Mr. Trump and our country every hour on the hour, every time I think of election day

I have sent the Trump campaign $250, am sending $250 more.

Even though we don't own a gun, husband and I joined the NRA on Monday.

We will buy a gun for protection before election day because I believe the DNC and Black Lives Matter will cause extreme violence on election night, especially if Mr. Trump is winning.

I have signed up to be a poll watcher on election day.

This Saturday I am going to Trump headquarters to pick up Trump/Pence signs and then I'm going door-to-door asking GOP neighbors to put signs in their yard.

I am posting fact-based calm informational posts on my Facebook page re: what Mr. Trump will do vs what HRC will do. I do not engage in ad hominem attacks against HRC, just state the facts about what she's done and not done; the facts are very damning in and of themselves. I've probably lost a few Facebook "friends", but at this point I really don't care.

In spite of the cloud of Clinton evil hovering over our great nation, I am trying to keep my spirits up. I am staying in close touch with Free Republic, Sean Hannity, Mike Gallagher, Dennis Prager and Lou Dobbs.

I cannot express how much you, my fellow Freeper deplorables, cheer me up, make me laugh, and and help me stay positive.

I don't know what else to do. What can I do? What are you doing?

RooRoobird20, Free Republic 10 Comments [10/23/2016 3:59:00 AM]
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Quote# 122186

Hillary: All 17 of our security agencies say that Russia hacked our national computer systems

Why in the hell do we have 17 security agencies?

With all of these security agencies guarding us, how in the hell did Russia (or anyone else) break in to our government servers? Are these agencies incompetent or what?

And in particular, why was our state department's servers so vulnerable to hackers?

Is this a sample of how a president Hillary will secure our nation's secrets?

Jim Robinson, Free Republic 9 Comments [10/23/2016 3:58:36 AM]
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Quote# 122185

There is an inclination to underestimate these metapolitical activities because they are not immediately about political change, party politics, electing candidates, and having our views heard on the national stage. It is not that party politics is ineffective; it has been indispensably important in Europe, and now with Trump as a candidate in the United States. But the aim of metapolitics is to challenge the order at a higher intellectual level, not in a way disconnected from the people, but in a way that goes beyond political activism. It must question the basic assumptions of the establishment, offering new interpretations of events and historical developments and appealing to the many-sided ways in which humans live their lives in a broad cultural sense. We call the promoters of diversity “Cultural Marxists” for a reason. They have had immense success in bringing about a complete alteration in the way we think about men and women, about national identities, classes, races, marriage, and so on. We are Gramscians against Cultural Marxism. Unlike them, however, the Council also draws ideas from the rich intellectual heritage of the West. Leftists have been able to manipulate much of this heritage in such a way that it is seen as a progression of ideas leading to their “cosmopolitan” and “humanitarian” outlook. One of the goals of the CEC is to show that this Western tradition actually stands in opposition to Cultural Marxism, which is a recent, externally imposed way of thinking, with some roots in the “radical Enlightenment,” but mostly outside the Western tradition and incompatible with Classical philosophy, with Roman values, and even Christianity. It is also in opposition to what modern science has come to say about the genetic basis of racial differences, about human nature, the importance of having a rooted identity in nation and tradition, the difference between men and women; and what Nietzsche, Heidegger, Hegel, Kant, and liberal thinkers have said; and what the history of the West has been about. This shows that cosmopolitan peace, the concept of a federation of nations, and many more supposedly “progressive” ideals are really ideals put forward by European peoples – very ethnocentric, and therefore ideals for Europeans, and not ideals intended to promote race-mixing or to create a generically docile species easy to manipulate by corporations and bureaucrats of the nanny state.

Ricardo Duchesne, Right on! 10 Comments [10/23/2016 3:55:40 AM]
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Quote# 122183

The scientific evidence, such as it is:

All human genes have been traced back to two ancestors, the first called “Mitochondrial Eve”, the second misnamed “Y-Chromosomal Adam”. The fact that there is one woman and one man who gave their genes to all is established by the evidence, the “scientists” then do backflips to say that there were actually several thousand individuals, even though they can show no evidence of that. They cannot claim more than that with the evidence they have, and even that is a stretch. Those several thousand fictional individuals are invented to allow them to claim that the Bible is false. Being not backed by evidence, they are, scientifically speaking, falsified.

The woman's genes are traced, using rather iffy methods (the dates may be way off), to an ancient time period, the mans genes to a less ancient time period. This causes the scientists to shriek “see, we told you that story of Adam and Eve was false, they lived at different times!” To this I reply NOAH. The Bible lists one time period when there was one woman who was the mother of all women, and two periods where one man was the father of all men, although in the case of Noah, the father of all surviving men. The second, later man's genes would overwright the first mans genes in the genetic record. The women in the ark were all from different mothers, the men, only from one father (plus the father himself present).

Thus the scientific evidence, which is different than “what scientists believe” (which is not science) validates the Bible as speaking literally.

And the only way one species can evolve into another is if it was planned by a planner, which is the whole problem with evolution. In the case of man, it was simply not planned, and did not happen, since what would God do with a half sentient creature, send it halfway to heaven or hell?

To get a new species, you could, as a planner, have one male and one female born with the same mutations, in the same area, and then have them mate with each other. The chance of that happening randomly is too small to even consider. It is a mute point with "human evolution", since it did not happen, animals and plants are another matter.

Legatuss, John C. Wright's Journal 8 Comments [10/22/2016 2:17:35 PM]
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Quote# 122182

You see, according to the Darwinists, nothing outweighs self-preservation except for race-preservation, on the ground that whatever genetically coded strategy of survival promotes the most selfish gene (selfish here meaning designed to preserve and promote itself with the greatest tenacity) by definition is the code most likely to be carried along in future generations, repeating itself. It is the ultimate conservative.

However, ironically, this genetically selfish behavior is a hindrance to the process of evolution as evolution is usually described. It is only by eliminating the selfish gene, creating mutations, and then weeding out the unfit, that evolution, as it is usually described, can take place. It is the ultimate radical.

(I must pause to comment that was is described as Darwinism is usually unrelated to Darwin, and more related to Nietzsche, Hegel, and Marx, who had a mystical belief in endless upward progress either toward the superman, the absolute, or the socialist paradise. Darwin never spoke about evolution, only about descent with modification, which is a sound theory regarding the creation of breeds, but in recent years has begun to seem doubtful in the minds of candid biologists regarding the creation of a new species, much less a new genus, family, order, class, phylum, kingdom. The random mutation theory, which is not Darwin's theory, does not seem to be a feasible mechanism to explain the stability of species in some geological strata, versus the sudden explosions of species in the precambrian and others.)

John C. Wright, John C. Wright's Journal 10 Comments [10/22/2016 2:16:48 PM]
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Quote# 122177

You know what the magic word, the only thing that matters in American sexual mores today is? One thing. You can do anything, the left will promote and understand and tolerate anything, as long as there is one element. Do you know what it is? Consent. If there is consent on both or all three or all four, however many are involved in the sex act, it's perfectly fine. Whatever it is. But if the left ever senses and smells that there's no consent in part of the equation then here come the rape police. But consent is the magic key to the left.

Rush Limbaugh, Media Matters 21 Comments [10/22/2016 2:16:15 PM]
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Quote# 122174

(about what Donald Trump said in the 2005 video)

The rank hypocrisy of this pearl clutching is astounding. This form of locker room talk is the nothing more than simple, healthy, virile, masculinity. Since the dawn of humanity, men have sat around discussing the beauty of women, bragging about how popular they are with the ladies, and making crude sexual comments about what they’d like to do with them behind closed doors. While feminists might scream “Rape culture!” and “Objectification!” these are nothing but the ejaculates of diseased minds. Feminists have a pathological fear of healthy male sexuality, and so they conflate the admiration of beauty with the devaluation of personality, and the desire for a woman with the intent to take her by force.

It is a biological fact that men are the initiatory sex, and that women are the alluring sex. Throughout all of the animal kingdom, males have to prove their worth before a female will accept them as a mate, and it is the female’s alluring nature which drives them to compete in the first place. Locker room banter is just one of the many ways that the males of our species psych one another up in preparation. It isn’t just normal—it is morally correct.

Davis M.J. Aurini, Return of Kings 49 Comments [10/22/2016 8:20:21 AM]
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Quote# 122169

The primary contribution any woman can make for science is to stay completely out of it. No matter how good she is, no matter how smart she is, she cannot possibly compensate for the complete devastation and distraction she is going to leave in her wake over the course of her career among the socially and sexually hapless gammas who might have otherwise happily spent decades slaving away in the laboratories.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 38 Comments [10/22/2016 5:17:45 AM]
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Quote# 122164

In the past year there have been a number of campaigns opposing the tax on tampons, but the latest voice to be added to the national debate isn’t one anyone wanted to hear. 19-year-old self-proclaimed ‘meninist’ Ryan Williams is unlikely to persuade anyone with his argument that instead of getting free tampons women should just hold in their pee instead.


Williams, who has a long term girlfriend, clearly needs someone to sit him down and explain female anatomy to him. He believes that tampons should be taxed because it is “all about self control.” According to him, women should just learn to “control their bladders” and that if women “are going to bleed then they should wait until they get to the toilet.”

He also called women who want to end tampon tax “cheapskates.”

“I don’t urinate everywhere and expect free nappies” he added. He said, “I don’t think condoms should be free either. Close your legs and hold your bladder end of discussion.”That’s not quite the same though, is it Ryan?

Ryan Williams, The Tab 35 Comments [10/21/2016 6:04:06 PM]
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Quote# 122161

(Another fun prediction from 4 years ago)

THE ONLY VOTER SUPPRESSION WAS AT THE HANDS OF THE LIB DEMS--THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS is what we were warning everyone about. THIS is what the rest of them refused to take seriously. and as a result THE WORST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS REPUBLIC TOOK THE OVAL OFFICE!!!!!!!! NEWSFLASH LIBS, OBAMA *WILL* *NOT* *LEAVE* *OFFICE* *IN* 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE WILL NOT LEAVE OFFICE! AMERICA IS DEAD AND YOU SICK *********S KILLED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
every time i try to talk to a lib its like im screaming at a brick wall. im sick of this. so sick of it. ive got family in idaho. when i can im gonna finish here and move the family up there. i dont want to be here for what happens next

Crossforce, WND 20 Comments [10/21/2016 6:02:59 PM]
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Quote# 122158

If you don't know by now that this upcoming election is more of a spiritual battle than it is a political one, you'd better wake up!

Apparently a group of witches and pagans have joined forces to exert "mental power and influence" over Donald Trump, in order to cause him to quit the election early. This was reported in several newspapers in England, including the UK Telegraph. *Link is in the comment section.

These witches and pagans from the World Ad-Hoc Association of Witches have pledged to “exert mental influence” on the upcoming debate which, it claims, will force the billionaire to quit the race.

Apparently Christians have been praying because they tried this at the last debate: which failed miserably. Trump clearly came away the winner in that debate. But then the --> allegations <-- about sexual assault began immediately after that.

And while folks are focusing on these accusers who keep getting treasured front-page treatment from the media without any verification of their authenticity, the greater news story about Hillary's bribing of federal agents and other chicanery taking place under her watch is going largely unreported.

The Bible told us as believers to WATCH and PRAY. And as a Christian you really must ask yourself:

What is it about this guy (Donald Trump) that is so threatening to LGBT groups and now WITCHES and PAGANS that they have all joined forces to stop his election to the Presidency? And why haven't they targeted Hillary Clinton or any of the other candidates the same way? Are you comfortable with that???

It's been stirring in my spirit since I started paying attention to this election cycle that something 'out of the norm' is up. You can feel it in the air. This has become bigger than just a battle between two candidates: it seems we now have a battle between two opposing spiritual powers as well.

I'm not claiming Trump is a Christian. But he does have conservative Christians backing up his candidacy. Nor am I claiming Hillary's a witch. But it does look suspicious whenever witches, gays and pagans join forces to condemn one candidate - while at the same time propping up another.

Something is clearly up here.

Keep your eyes sharp, and be in prayer that God's choice for candidate and the right future appointments make it into office. Most of all be sure to get out and vote yourself.

Unless it doesn't concern you that witches and warlocks are joining up to influence the election the way they want it to go.

Mack Major, Facebook 22 Comments [10/21/2016 6:02:44 PM]
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Quote# 122156

Atheists are Polytheists!

An atheist is said to be someone who denies the existence of the Creator. This is a good definition, provided that we mean by it that the creator whose existence they deny is the only God ofreligion, the one true Creator. Otherwise, atheists do believe in creators, albeit they do not recognize them under that appellation. This is so because atheists, in their endeavor to find alternatives to God for explaining the existence of the temporal things we see around us, invent some imaginary entities and give them some of the essential attributes of God.

Thus materialistic atheists used to believe in matter as such a god. But this matter-god of theirs is not the matter with which we are familiar in our daily life; it is something that is eternal and everlasting, hence the statement, which used to masquerade as a scientific fact, "matter is neither created nor destroyed." But when you ask them to point this eternal and everlasting matter you discover that they are only chasing a will-o'-the-wisp. The matter that we can recognize and to which we can point is matter in the form of the large heavenly bodies, in the form of earthly physical things, and in the form of the constituents of these things: molecules, atoms, subatomic particles, photons, etc., none of which is eternal. Atheistic materialists used to believe in an eternal matter behind all such material things which come and go, but the advent of the "big bang" theory shattered all hopes in the existence of such matter. Scientists now believe that everything - matter, energy, even space and time - had a beginning. In fact they speak about a moment of creation of all these things.

Another such imaginary god is Nature (with a capital N). The nature with which we are familiar is the totality of natural things. But when we are told that Nature does this or that, as atheists are prone to say, we find ourselves at a loss. What is this Nature? If it be the one we know, how can it cause or create itself? But if it is something else, then we want to have proof of its existence.

The same applies to Evolution. Now evolution, scientifically speaking, is "[t]he gradual process by which the present diversity of plant and animal life arose from the earliest and most primary organisms." (Concise Science Dictionary) But the Evolution of the atheists is not this process; rather it is the agent which brings about the process. Only in this unscientific and imaginary sense can evolution take the place of God; otherwise, a believer who accepts the theory of evolution can easily reconcile it with his belief in God, by saying that that process is itself the work of the Creator.

There are, on the other hand, atheists who say in a misleading way that they believe in God; but on inspection, their god turns out to be the god of the atheists. I am referring here to people like Einstein, who is said by some to have been a believer, but whose god was in fact not God the Creator in whom we all believe. Einstein declared that he believed in "Spinoza's god," i.e. in a god that is identical with the universe, and who does not thus interfere from outside in its working. "The man who is thoroughly convinced of the universal operation of the law of causation, "says Einstein, "cannot for a moment entertain the idea of a being who interferes in the course of events." [Quoted by Hans Kung, Does God Exist? Vantage Books, 1981, p. 629]

Thus all atheists are in fact polytheists, or mushriks. A mushrik, according to Islam, is one who believes in a god or gods besides, or to the exclusion of, the one true God, or who worships such gods, even if he also worships the true God. That perhaps is the reason why the Qur'an never talks about atheists, but only about mushriks (or polytheists).

Dr. Jaafar Sheikh Idris, Call to Monotheism 24 Comments [10/21/2016 6:01:23 PM]
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Quote# 122149

Brief statement on women.
Posted on April 5, 2011 by colonelgoober
There may be some confusion as to the opinion some of us in the KBH have of women. If we are not prone to eulogizing women, it is because we think more than anything they need to be deflated.

In a nutshell, the opinion expressed is that they are to be treated as property. Because women lack autonomy, they have to be led constantly. Apart from male guidance, they cannot be trusted at all. Women are inherently reprobate. Further to that, we consider them to be basically maya, the illusion made flesh.

Reality is what it is. You cannot be happy if you’re not living in accordance with reality, and that includes women. No woman is happy unless she is being led by strong men. Woman is not the problem per se, but the absurd social position she now occupies is the problem.

We do not advocate:

1. Banging them. We are chaste. We are not the kind of misogynist that takes advantage of the fact that in our time the majority of women are sexually eager.

2. Mistreating them. We strive to treat them as is just. When they get out of line, they should be put back in line. Decent females should be treated with decency, whereas whores should be treated coldly.

3. Marrying them. There is almost no chance to find a decent woman nowadays. Marriage is not worth the risk. As a man in the West, both society and the legal system are working against you.

I invite my brothers to add to, subtract from, or otherwise edit this post if they think they can improve upon it.

Colonelgoober, Knights of Banjo Holow 45 Comments [10/21/2016 3:26:56 AM]
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Quote# 122148

Donald Trump is going on a furious Twitter tirade about the “rigged” election

Over the weekend, Donald Trump reinvigorated his pleas against the so-called rigged election in a barrage of tweets lambasting not only his political opponent Hillary Clinton and the media at large, but also Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan for being a bystander.

According to Trump, the media is rigging the election toward Clinton; the GOP establishment and Paul Ryan are working against him; and if Clinton wins in November, it will be because of large-scale voter fraud.

He tweeted:

Voter fraud! Crooked Hillary Clinton even got the questions to a debate, and nobody says a word. Can you imagine if I got the questions?
2:24 AM - 18 Oct 2016

WikiLeaks proves even the Clinton campaign knew Crooked mishandled classified info, but no one gets charged? RIGGED! …
1:58 AM - 18 Oct 2016 · United States, United States

Of course there is large scale voter fraud happening on and before election day. Why do Republican leaders deny what is going on? So naive!
11:33 PM - 17 Oct 2016

The election is absolutely being rigged by the dishonest and distorted media pushing Crooked Hillary - but also at many polling places - SAD
4:01 AM - 17 Oct 2016

Election is being rigged by the media, in a coordinated effort with the Clinton campaign, by putting stories that never happened into news!
11:31 PM - 16 Oct 2016

Polls close, but can you believe I lost large numbers of women voters based on made up events THAT NEVER HAPPENED. Media rigging election!
10:36 PM - 16 Oct 2016

Watched Saturday Night Live hit job on me.Time to retire the boring and unfunny show. Alec Baldwin portrayal stinks. Media rigging election!
10:14 PM - 16 Oct 2016

Hillary Clinton should have been prosecuted and should be in jail. Instead she is running for president in what looks like a rigged election
11:23 PM - 15 Oct 2016

This election is being rigged by the media pushing false and unsubstantiated charges, and outright lies, in order to elect Crooked Hillary!
10:45 PM - 15 Oct 2016

This is certainly not the first time Trump has said the election has been — or will be — rigged against him; he first raised the conspiracies over voter fraud and Clinton-media cahoots in August and renews the claim every time he seems to be slipping in the polls. After Ryan said he would no longer campaign for Trump, the Republican nominee added him to the list of things working against him.

As it is now, days before the final debate, and less than a month before Election Day, the polls don’t look great for Trump. He seems to recognize this, tweeting about the negative impact the sexual assault allegations have had on his campaign (although he blames the media for putting out “fabricated” stories about them).

As my colleague Dara Lind explains, it is an attempt to preemptively excuse a possible loss in November and retain his much-cared-about image as a winner. But it also could have adverse results in November, fueling Trump supporters to rebuke — and possibly protest — the results.

Even Trump’s vice presidential pick Mike Pence thinks this is a bad idea, telling a supporter to stop calling for a revolution after Election Day. “We will absolutely accept the result of the election. Look, the American people will speak in an election that will culminate on November the 8th,” Pence told Chuck Todd on Sunday’s Meet The Press. “But the American people are tired of the obvious bias in the national media. That's where the sense of a rigged election goes here, Chuck.”

That, however, hasn’t stopped Trump from pushing the idea that the election is unfairly rigged.

Donald Trump, Vox 61 Comments [10/21/2016 3:26:33 AM]
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Quote# 122144

Discussing the COBE background radiation data vs Genesis . . .

However, there are some lingering questions. For instance, while the COBE experiment was designed to measure temperature variations, the variations allegedly found were an order of magnitude less than those predicted. Yet this is hailed as a great confirmation of the big-bang model. Some have written that the COBE results perfectly matched predictions, but this is simply not true. Since the COBE results, some theorists have recalculated big-bang models to produce the COBE measurements, but this hardly constitutes a perfect match. Instead, the data have guided the theory rather than the theory predicting the data.

Danny R Faulkner, answers in genesis 15 Comments [10/21/2016 3:25:50 AM]
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Quote# 122143

Creationists are trying to keep up with science . . .

This is a review of Dr. Russ Humphreys' "A Young-Earth Relativistic Cosmology."

In the first paper, he argued that the Bible does provide a foundation for cosmological thinking. It was suggested that the “expanse” (or “firmament” KJV) is the place where the sun, moon and stars are: interstellar space. The waters above the expanse were understood to be a water boundary to the created universe. The birds fly, not “in the expanse’, but “in the face of the expanse’-referring to the atmosphere of the Earth. (This perspective led to a reconsideration of the Canopy theory-which was rejected as neither biblically-based nor scientifically necessary.) ( Uh-oh, now we have no source of water for Noahs flood - Mr Spak)Several biblical texts refer to God stretching out the heavens: these were understood to mean that “God stretched out space itself at some time in the past”. This is an important point of the reinterpretation, as it is linked with a relativistic expansion of the universe during creation week.

Humphreys considered the word “deep” (tehom) in the Bible (Genesis chapter 1 verse 2) and suggested that it should be understood as ordinary liquid water. The cosmological model that was developed from this framework considers all the galaxies in the universe to have been formed from the waters of this “deep”. Based on an estimated mass of the universe of 3 times 10 to the power 51 kilograms, Humphreys calculates that the “deep” would be a sphere of water with a radius of at least 1 light year. Since the expanse is formed in “the midst of the waters” (Genesis chapter 1 verse 6), it follows that the Earth must be at or near the centre of the universe.

Humphreys suggests that the Bible teaches a cosmological geocentricity.

The paper covers much more ground than can be reviewed here, but the 6 general conclusions are listed below. They all have relevance to the proposed relativistic cosmology.
1. Matter in the universe is bounded.
2. The universe has expanded.
3. The Earth is near the centre of the universe.
4. The universe is young as measured by clocks on Earth.
5.The original matter God created was ordinary liquid water.
6.God transformed the water into various elements by compaction.

The question of how a biblically-based cosmology could be constructed was addressed in the second paper. Humphreys drew attention to the necessity of presuppositions when formulating cosmological models.

Stephen Hawking and George Ellis have written: “…we are not able to make cosmological models without some mixture of ideology”. Their work makes use of the Copernican Principle: the universe has no edges and no centre-it looks everywhere broadly the same. This principle, it is important to note, is not a conclusion of science, but an assumption thought to be valid.

The implications of the Copernican Principle for modern cosmology are profound. Humphreys argues that when these ideas are expressed mathematically and applied to the equations of general relativity, they result in Big-Bang cosmologies. Humphreys looks again at general relativity theory, but using different presuppositions. These are: the universe is of finite size and has a boundary; the Earth is near the centre; the cosmos has been expanded by God in the past; the cosmos is young. The picture that emerges is dramatically different from the Big Bang. The following scenario combines Humphreys” biblical framework and the results of his research into general relativity theory.

When the “deep” was created, it was a black hole. Under gravity, it collapsed and the temperature, pressure and density increased to the stage where thermonuclear reactions occurred and nucleosynthesis took place.

Intense light was everywhere inside the black hole. The collapse is considered to have lasted one day-and then, in a creative act of God, the black hole was converted into a white hole. The result was a rapid, inflationary expansion of space. This is when the waters above the expanse, the expanse and the waters below the expanse were differentiated. With expansion came cooling-and at about 3000 Kelvin, atoms would have been formed and the expanse would become transparent. Thermal radiation in the expanding expanse would be very uniform and the temperature would continue to drop. At the end of expansion, the temperature reached 2.76 kelvin (which we observe today).

At some time during the expansion, the shrinking event horizon would approach the centre of the white hole-the Earth. Whilst this is suggested to have occurred on the morning of the 4th Day (Earth time), the time dilation effects of relativity theory permit “billions of years worth of physical processes [to take] place in the distant cosmos". Stars and galaxies formed, and time elapsed so that light was able to travel to every corner of the universe. Hence, Adam and Eve, on the 6th Day (Earth time) were able to look into the expanse and see the splendour of the heavens.

The model thus claims to explain all three of the cosmological phenomena mentioned earlier: light from distant galaxies, galactic red shifts and the cosmic microwave background. It suggests that time elapsed at different rates on Earth and in the expanse (6 Days Earth time and billions of years cosmological time, possible because the Earth is at the centre of the universe).

Dr. Russ Humphreys' , answers in genesis 12 Comments [10/21/2016 3:25:45 AM]
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Quote# 122141

While Christians are busy arguing about supporting one candidate for President who sticks her middle finger up at God while supporting gay marriage and abortion - vs the candidate who seems to get a new allegation of sexual assault against him every other hour:

THIS is what witches and warlocks are up to. They're busy recruiting your kids into witchcraft and the occult.

This is a picture of a "toy" remote controlled magic wand from a popular kid's book and movie. (Not exactly sure what it controls remotely.) I took this picture earlier while at a well known bookstore.

I put the word "toy" in quotations because if you know anything about the occult, you'll know that it's nothing toyish to play around with.

The occult is the playground and science of demons. This is not a toy at all: it's a starter kit for conjuring demons that's geared towards children. And most Christian adults are totally oblivious to the fact.

Kids are only gravitating to the occult because the church is too anemic, too distracted by lust, and too sin-sick right now to manifest the authentic power of Jesus Christ. If our youth had God's miracle working power to compare against the occult: they'd be flocking to "JC" instead of trying to be like "HP."

And they'd be seeking to become Christians - instead of rejecting the label of Christianity while cosigning witchcraft, voodoo, paganism, Kemetic religions, satanism and the occult.

We're doing our kids a great disservice if we don't teach them how to walk in the real genuine power of God!

If you're tired of coming in second place to witches and warlocks, tired of powerless Christianity and tired of getting your head kicked in by the devil: pre-order your copy of my upcoming ebook: 'Brand Ambassadors for Jesus.'

It's time to step out of the shadows and be the city on a hill that's too bright to ignore. Because whatever you're exemplifying in your Christian walk is what your children will either be attracted to or ultimately repelled by.

Give them a fake version of Christianity that's devoid of any real power or the Presence of the living God: and I can assure you they will turn their backs on God and end up serving devils in this hour.

Or you can give them an authentic expression of a holy power packed life; and tantalize them to want to serve Jesus Christ instead. The deciding factor is you.

Mack Major, Facebook 26 Comments [10/21/2016 3:25:34 AM]
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