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Quote# 140620

Although these children are in heaven, safe and secure and with the Lord, their blood remains in the earth to testify against the doctor, murderer or abuser in the Hall of Judgment when it is time to give evidence. The face of the one who took their life through commission or omission is embedded in the lifeblood Of the unborn or murdered child, and that blood will speak at the court Of their abusers. Every mother who has aborted her child and has not been forgiven of this flagrant abuse of God's precious creation will be held accountable in the time of Judgment. A special angel has lovingly collected every tear shed and preserves them in a special jar. When called, the angel brings the jar to the Seat Of Judgment, and each tear is examined, the circum- stances of the shedding playing like a movie, the event frozen into the fluid of each tear. These tears will offer up their evidence against whoever had caused them to be shed. Everyone who thinks that they are not accountable for every word, deed or attitude thrown thoughtlessly at someone else, family or otherwise, will be surprised to find out that it is not only recorded, but every tear shed or drop of blood shed will give testimony at the time Of judgment.


Jessica Jones, Ask for the Ancient Paths (book) 10 Comments [9/25/2018 6:11:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 140619

The revelation of Jesus Christ in your life will cause Jesus to give you authority on the earth.

The Results of the Keys

Keys Are Released and Regions Are Transformed

After the Lord entrusted me with these keys, we began to see whole regions changed in America. One region was a place called Shaw, Mississippi. We saw a bar shut down and the mayor of that town was filled with the Holy Ghost! Not only that, but the whole jail and prison system there was totally put out of commission because there was no need for it. Masses of people gave their lives to the Lord. Oh how badly we need this in our metropolitan cities in America. Until this very day, the pastor who invited me there has told me that the bar owner who shut down his establishment and gave his life to the Lord during this revival is saved and the bar is still closed! They also have not been able to build the jail system or police station again. What power! This happened 10 to 11 years ago!

Brooklyn, Illinois, Transformed

Another such incident happened after these keys were given to me in Brooklyn, Illinois. The mayor heard that the Lord was beginning to transform regions through the ministry He gave me. She invited me to come and minister to her region in Brooklyn. We saw great things take place. The Lord told me to use the keys He has given me to loose wholeness and health in that region by speaking financial blessing on the economy and on the mayor. I turned to her and said, “The Lord told me to loose 3 million dollars into your hand for this region.” At the same time, the Lord told me to speak judgment on the Mafia establishments in that area so that they would shut down their illegal operations. The Lord also said to loose the building of a new bridge from St. Louis over to this area. The old bridge was worn and torn down. The Mafia threatened to kill the mayor and our ministry team. They also threatened to frame the mayor for stealing money.

These Keys Caused the President of the United States to Fulfill Prophecy

Three months after I released this money to the mayor in 1999, President Bill Clinton went to Brooklyn to give the mayor three million dollars. Around the same time, many of the Mafia clubs and illegal establishments were completely shut down! In 2008 I went back to visit Brooklyn and met with a pastor who remembered the word I had given in 1999. He then told me that we were standing in one of the buildings that had belonged to the Mafia. I didn’t know it, but he had turned one of the Mafia buildings into a church. Then he said, “Everything God had you speak about Brooklyn nine years ago has come to pass. All those who sought your life to kill you are dead or in jail. Even the man who owned this building is in jail at this very moment. The Mafia did set the mayor up and accused her of stealing money, but the powers of darkness did not prevail!” This was definitely the result of the authority released to me through these keys.

Whole Mental Hospitals Healed

After these miraculous regional transformations, the Lord kept doing mighty things. We were seeing people healed of tumors, blindness, being mute, being crippled, and other diseases. People got out of their wheelchairs when Jesus appeared in services. But He made a special and unexpected visit. I knew a young man who had a mental breakdown and
was admitted into a mental hospital in St. Louis. I was very close to him, and I got word that he wanted me to come to the hospital and pray for him. So I went, but I didn’t know that the most amazing thing was about to take place!
When I arrived at his room, I began praying for him along with some of the staff members I had brought with me. We prayed for him and commanded the illness to leave his mind. Mental illness is a difficult disease to heal and we do not see many healings. It is not hard for God, but it is hard for us. As we prayed for him, his mental sickness immediately and completely left him. He arose from the bed healed.

Jesus Appears in the Hospital and Performs a Mass Miracle

Right after this man was healed, Jesus suddenly appeared to me and stood on the opposite side of the bed. His face was shining, and He was wearing His beautiful, brilliant white robe. He said to me: “David, use the keys that I’ve given you to pray for healing in this whole mental hospital, and I am going to walk through this hospital and heal the people.” So I did. I didn’t know that something this dramatic was going to happen. As we walked out of the hospital room with this healed young man who was ready to go home, scores of people started coming out of their rooms saying, “We are healed. Our minds are free.” A stampede of patients came from other floors that we had not visited. It was uncontrollable, and the receptionist or nurse at the desk dn’t know what to do. We told her, “You need to release these people; they’re healed.” Sadly, she told us that she wouldn’t get a paycheck if all those people were emptied out of the hospital because they were healed.

How sad it is in America that the pharmaceutical companies hold people in bondage with medicine and drugs just so they can live off of other people’s illnesses and subtly take advantage of them. This was a notable, mass miracle, and my whole staff, the doctors, and nurses were astonished! I didn’t lay a hand on a single one! This was Jesus and He was demonstrating His power through the keys of the Kingdom.


David Taylor, My Trip to Heaven: Face to Face with Jesus 6 Comments [9/25/2018 6:10:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 140618

Lady Checkmate:
The alt-left is the most hateful group that ever existed. They actually hate Bible-believing Christians so much that they want to murder ALL of us (Bible-believing Christians), and yet they have the audacity to accuse Christians of "hate". They are hateful liars and deceivers like their father satan.

Amos (Moses), make sure you use a VPN. I noticed he's tagging you to other channels/blogs. He's trying to groom you to respond to him on different channels and blogs for a reason (and it's not because he enjoys your company, lol, as delightful as it is...if you can't say Amen, say ouch).

Seriously, Blog owners can see a commenter's IPN and use that information to locate other information about users, like their real names, physical addresses, work places, family members, etc. Even up-voting or down-voting a comment on blogs and YouTube can give an owner access to your IPN. peewee, as hilarious as his trolling and "online persecution" is, also issues death wishes and death threats and obsessively stalks Christians-which is NOT funny. In all that we do, we use wisdom. Additional security measure: NEVER click on anything he posts.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Community Council 10 Comments [9/25/2018 6:09:14 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 140613

Humans learned the art of tattooing, (among other decorating arts of the body,) from the fallen angels that mated with human women before the flood of Noah. (http://www.eaec.org/bibleanswers/Noah.htm) Indeed, an increase in tattooing is a sign of the end times, because so many were doing it in the pre-flood days of Noah. It would not surprise me if the mark of the beast might one day be noted with a tattoo.

Dreams of Dunamis, Dreams of Dunamis 13 Comments [9/24/2018 11:10:51 PM]
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Quote# 140612

(responding to Raunchous Brothers lyrics being submitted here)

You guys nagging and bitching about these lyrics are morons! This is a shock value band intended to be offensive! They are comedic and are just being edgy. The lyrics are basically their views except more hardcore. These guys aren't killing faggots in real life. Also the Neo Nazis shit is a shtick. These guys do NOT go to KKK rallies or Nazi gatherings. They do not worship Hitler.

If they really were neo Nazis they wouldn't have sent their demo to Howard Stern, who they are a fan of.

Also they were good friends with Seth Putnam of AnalCunt... That should tell you they are an offensive act and nothing much more serious!
One of their main influences is the Mentors!

Also the Whipping Bastard is a righteous singer and can sound angrier than any of you queers.


GGRAMONE, FSTDT 8 Comments [9/24/2018 11:10:39 PM]
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Quote# 140610

Attack #1 against Slavery

“All instances of slavery abuses people and treats people as less than human, therefore slavery is immoral.”


Wrong – American slavery, and slavery practiced outside of Israel may have treated slaves as less than human and it was therefore immoral. But in Israel slaves were guaranteed certain human rights that God commanded.

Attack #2 against Slavery

“Even if Israel treated their slaves more kindly they still were treated as less than human because they did not have equal rights and were not free. All adult humans must have equal rights including full autonomy.”


Wrong – God is the one who grants our rights and while he has guaranteed certain human rights to all – he did not guarantee an equal amount of rights to all. It is not immoral, or treating someone as less than human to give some people more rights than others if we are following God’s Law in doing so.

biblicalgenderroles, Biblical Gender Roles 16 Comments [9/24/2018 2:24:29 PM]
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Quote# 140608

Churches are filled today with imposters, who profess to be Christian; but they are only playing a game of church. They have never been saved.

I met a man in Hawaii, a Hawaiian, who talked about God and love. He appeared to be a Christian from the way he was talking and smiling; but when I gave him a Gospel tract which read... "You Need HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS," he became offended by the contents. Whereas the Bible states that God created mankind in His own image; many people today have recreated god in their own sinful human image. The man whom I had spoken with in Hawaii had "a form of godliness" as 2nd Timothy 3:5 mentions; but He was offended by the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Tragically, Christianity is nothing more than a cult to many people, because the preaching of the Gospel to them is nothing more than a religious philosophy. I am not saying that Christianity is a cult. Not at all. I am saying that many people make Christianity a cult in their own mind. This is why we hear people saying, "I used to be a Christian." That is impossible. The second birth (i.e., the spiritual birth) is as irreversible as is the first birth (i.e., the physical birth). Many people join a church and adhere superficially to a few Biblical principles; but they never actually become a born-again Christian.

No one refers to the Bible more than the unsaved heathens. In nearly every debate with lost sinners they say, "But didn't Jesus say..." It is ironic that unsaved people, who are hellbound, seem to know so much about the Bible. The truth is that they are only vaguely familiar with the Bible, and cannot understand it's Truths because they have not the Holy Spirit of God (1st Corinthians 2:14-17).

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 15 Comments [9/24/2018 7:52:18 AM]
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Quote# 140604

I have had to settle for now with speaking up when there is a chance that a reader who is REALLY struggling with the idea (and headed toward suicide because of it) might need to hear a little grace.


Just stop with the stupid emoting. If you really want to stop gays from killing themselves, then force them back in the closet and drive home how unacceptable the behavior is.

They tend to kill themselves out of guilt and shame for their ACTIONS. No one feels guilt and shame for successfully resisting temptation. So, anything you do to help them continue wallowing in their behavior is going to increase the amount of suicide.

Face it. The real basis of your argument is that you are a woman and you hate to make people feel bad. Which is both normal and fine, but stop dressing it up in logically backwards appeals to possible suicide.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 14 Comments [9/23/2018 4:51:40 PM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 140602

We have shown that those who use Paul’s statement that “there is neither male nor female“ in Galatians 3:28 and Christ’s actions in teaching women have built a false platform of support of equal rights for women. When we examine the whole counsel of God as found in the entirety of the Scriptures we see this is not the case.

[...]

If you as a woman desire to be a first-class citizen – meaning to have all the rights and privileges of a man, then you have selfish ambition and envy in your heart. You need to get down on your knees and pray the prayer of David in Psalm 51:10 where he prays “Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.” You need to fully embrace your position as the weaker vessel and your place in God’s design.

If you are a father, husband or teachers of God’s Word you must have the courage to stand firm against the evil attitudes and ambitions in the women of our age.

“Be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.”

I Corinthians 16:13 (NASB)

biblicalgenderroles, Biblical Gender Roles 21 Comments [9/23/2018 12:29:45 PM]
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Quote# 140601

I could just tell my ideal partner that I don't like when she talks to other guys and she would ignore him completely. But if I was with an unideal partner and she continued to talk to him knowing full well that he likes her and that it rips me apart inside, I would not hesitate to resort to murder.

Temerity, Yandere Forums 9 Comments [9/23/2018 12:29:13 PM]
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Quote# 140600

Amos Moses:
"Trans teen stabs parents to death because they would not affirm his 'transition'
"State of WI ordered to cover surgeries for trans UW employees"
and the social contagion of homoMIRAGE marches on .............

San Geronimo:
Wrong. Gay marriage is unrelated to trans issues.

Amos Moses:
directly related ... goes to "tolerance" of the delusional of who and what they are and depravity of mind .... cannot accept those who refuse to put up with their lies ........

San Geronimo:
Gay marriage being allowed has no bearing whatsoever in the trans community, just as it has no bearing on the American Auto Workers’ Union.

Amos Moses:
depravity is a social contagion .... just as if it were typhoid .....

San Geronimo:
We do not blame thieves for the work of arsonists.

Amos Moses:
but they both go to the same jail ... the penalty is the same ....... and the depravity of mind is the same ........

San Geronimo:
We do not blame carjackers for the work of tax frauds.

Amos Moses:
wow ... you just keep wandering further and further from reality ........

San Geronimo:
Amos, you are doing the EXACT SAME THNG when you blame same sex marriage on the fact that we try to help trans people. Why don’t you say why gay marriage is to blame for this completely separate, non-gay issue?

Amos Moses:
i have again and again ..... it is depravity ... it is narcissism ..... it is not marriage .... it is a lie ... it is delusion ..... they both think one of them is a woman as they commit acts as if one or the other is a woman .... women do not have penises ..... cutting it off does not alter DNA ..... and it applies homosexuals and trannies ......... and a three year old knows it .... it is not rocket surgery ......

San Geronimo:
I am not arguing with you about that. The fact that I'm NOT a bigot about these things goes without saying, I'm not commenting on your feelings about that. All I'm doing is asking you why you blame gay marriage on anything related to the trans community. They have zero in common. The fact you think both are examples of depravity doesn't mean they are the same thing.

Amos Moses:
depravity breeds depravity ...... so the samething ..... you are trying to say they are different ..... when it aint .... it is delusional and depravity if you are a sodomite or a tranny ......... or whatever ........

San Geronimo:
Your words say it all. I don’t use words like “sodomite” or “tranny” but whatever you want to call them, homosexuals are not the same as trans people. Homosexuality is about attraction. Trans issues are not.

Amos Moses:
so what .... they are what they are .... they have a MADE UP LIST of 85 MADE UP TERMS for their DEPRAVITY so they can "feel good" about them depravity ..... it aint about their FEELZ ....... it is ABOUT THE TRUTH ...... and you sop up that lie with a biskit and then spue the lie back out ..... making you a liar ....... as much or more than they ........


Amos Moses, Christian News Network 16 Comments [9/23/2018 12:22:16 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 140599

Gudrun Burwitz, who has died aged 88, was known in her youth as Gudrun Himmler and was the only legitimate child of the SS Reichsfuhrer, Heinrich Himmler, the sinister chief architect of the Holocaust.

She was 16 when the war ended and her father cheated the hangman by crushing a cyanide pill between his teeth after being captured by British forces. She was by no means alone among “Nazikinder” in having to bear the consequences of crimes she did not commit, but unlike the sons of Hitler’s number two, Martin Bormann, and “Dr Death” Aribert Heim, who grew up to express horror at their parents’ crimes, Gudrun remained loyal to her father’s memory and spent her life supporting Stille Hilfe (“Silent Help”), a “charitable” organisation which aids former Nazis. (…)

Gudrun Burwitz had been politically active since soon after the end of the war, joining Stille Hilfe and supporting the founding of the “Wiking-Jugend”, an underground Neo-Nazi organisation modelled on the Hitlerjugend, in 1952.

In 1955, with Adolf von Ribbentrop, the son of the former Nazi Foreign Minister, she travelled to London at the invitation of Sir Oswald Mosley and addressed a meeting of his Union Movement party, telling her audience that her father was a great man who had been misunderstood and whose good name had been destroyed by the Jews.

Stille Hilfe operated covertly from 1946, initially aiding the escape of Nazi fugitives over Allied lines, particularly to South America. From 1951, when it went from being covert to overt, registering with the German authorities so that it could raise funds to help “prisoners of war and interned persons”, Gudrun became increasingly active in the organisation. Stille Hilfe is known to have aided some of the Third Reich’s most prominent officers, including the Gestapo chief Klaus Barbie, the “Butcher Of Lyon”; Martin Sommer, the “Hangman From Buchenwald”; and Artur Axmann, head of the Hitler Youth.

As a central figure in the organisation Gudrun Burwitz arranged a comfortable retirement for Anton Malloth, or “Beautiful Tony” as he had been known in the Theresienstadt concentration camp in Czechosolvakia where, after beating Jews to death, he was known to comb his dishevelled hair back with his swastika badge.

In 1948 Malloth had been sentenced to death in his absence by a Czech court, but Gudrun Burwitz later used Stille Hilfe funds to rent him a comfortable room in a old people’s home in Munich. In 2001, when he was finally prosecuted in Germany, she continued to visit him twice a month until his death from cancer in 2002. He is said to have bequeathed her all his personal possessions. Another beneficiary of her largesse was Martin Sandberger, the leader of an elite SS squad responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews, communists and Gypsies in the occupied Baltic states of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, and whom she cared for in a retirement home in Stuttgart until his death in 2010.

Gudrun Himmler Burwitz, The New Antisemite  10 Comments [9/23/2018 11:59:43 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 140596

Malaysian Prime Minister says the country ‘cannot accept LGBT+ people’

Malaysian Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad has said his country will not accept LGBT+ people or same-sex marriage.

The prime minister made his views on LGBT+ rights clear in response to progressive amendments recommended by the government-created Human Rights Commission of Malaysia (SUHAKAM), the New Straits Times reports.

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Amendments proposed include offering education, employment, healthcare and housing services to LGBT+ people without discrimination.

Mohamad, 93, told the group: “Suhakam has presented its proposals to us just now, including one on amending the Suhakam Act.

“While we agree with Suhakam [on certain things], we have to remind Suhakam that Malaysia has a different value system than the Westerners.

“For instance, we cannot accept LGBT as well as the marriage of man and man or woman and woman.”

“The concept of family remains the same—that it [constitutes] a couple with their own children or adopted ones to be considered as family,” added the prime minister.

“But two men or two women is not considered a family,” Mohamad clarified.

Gay sex is banned in the country, which groups it together with bestiality in a list of offences which are “against the order of nature.”

The leader’s comments come just two weeks after he condemned the caning of two women for having sex in the state of Terengganu, saying the punishment did “not reflect the ideals of justice and compassion of Islam.”

At the time, his sympathetic remarks represented a welcome reprieve from weeks of anti-LGBT statements from prominent politicians including Deputy Prime Minister Dr Wan Azizah Wan Ismail, who said queer citizens should keep their sexualities secret.

The current backlash against LGBT+ equality began last month, when religious affairs minister Mujahid Yusof Rawa ordered two portraits of LGBT+ Malaysian activists be removed from an exhibition.

He said: “Society cannot accept LGBT being promoted because that is against norms, culture and religion.”

Since then, a series of political figures—including members of the government—have voiced disturbing views about Malaysia’s LGBT+ populace.

Latteffah Ali, state chairperson of the women’s wing of the United Malays National Organisation, said that if LGBT+ people keep pushing for equal rights, it could destroy the health and ethics of a generation.

Malaysia’s Deputy Health Minister, Dr Lee Boon Chye, said last month that LGBT+ people suffer from an “organic disorder.”

Mahfuz Omar, Deputy Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department, said LGBT+ people need to be helped to return to their “original identities” and that allowing people to be transgender would cause chaos in society.

And in August, police raided The Blue Boy club, a gay bar in Kuala Lumpur.

Dr Mahathir Mohamad, PinkNews 12 Comments [9/23/2018 11:56:20 AM]
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Quote# 140592

In regard to my in-laws, as kind and as loving as my mother and father in-law are – they are feminists. Don’t get me wrong, they are not drooling at the mouth, man-hating feminists and they would not even call themselves feminists. They certainly would never march in a feminist parade. My in-laws just believe in equality for men and women, partnership marriage and my mother in-law told me she taught her daughters to and I quote “be independent and not need a man”. Their father worked in a factory but he wanted better for his daughters and he encouraged them to get a higher education and have successful careers like their mother who was an accountant.

My wife and her sister are actually on different sides of their parents on this issue. My wife’s sister is more feministic than her parents and my wife is less feministic than her parents. My wife will at least tell people she believes in male headship in the home and she tries to a certain degree to fight her own feminist tendencies. But it is extremely difficult for my wife because of the combination that she is very intelligent, strong willed and she was raised by parents who instilled feminist principles in her. So there are days when she full on gives into the dark side and goes full blown feminist on me. Those are the days when she says “you can’t tell me what to do – you are not my father”. Other days I can tell she is truly trying and waging a war against the dark side in her that she knows in her heart conflicts with the Bible and what God wants for her.

biblicalgenderroles, Biblical Gender Roles 8 Comments [9/23/2018 11:54:19 AM]
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Quote# 140589

David

There's plenty of joy in Calvinism. Indeed, as Jesus said:

No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day. (John 6:44 [ESV])

That is a cause of great joy.

Martin, Premier 18 Comments [9/23/2018 11:53:16 AM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 140594

Should Women Be in Jobs Which Place Them Over Men?
Jill ‘s Statement:

“I am a Christian female university student in my mid-20s. I am currently in a Bible college. I want to pursue a Master’s, and I want to be in charge of a library. I have a question. Is this considered “authority?” If I am in charge of a library used by men and women, and in charge of hiring men and women, is this wrong?”

Yes someone who hires people is an authority. If you are hiring men, then you are any authority over men.

The Scriptures tell us that man is to be the head of woman and this is not restricted to just the Church and the Home and would also extend to society in general:

“But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.“

1 Corinthians 11:3 (KJV)


In our modern culture we don’t want to admit it but we know it is unnatural for a woman to be in authority over a man. Think male secretary to a female a boss. This is because God designed for man to be over woman in all things.

In the Old Testament we are told that women ruling over men is just as shameful as it would be for children to oppress men:

“As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.“

Isaiah 3:12 (KJV)


Even the heroine of modern day Christian feminists, Deborah, said this when the cowardly men of Israel insisted that she go into battle with them:

“8 And Barak said unto her, If thou wilt go with me, then I will go: but if thou wilt not go with me, then I will not go.

9 And she said, I will surely go with thee: notwithstanding the journey that thou takest shall not be for thine honour; for the Lord shall sell Sisera into the hand of a woman. And Deborah arose, and went with Barak to Kedesh.”

Judges 4:8-9 (KJV)


We know that Deborah was refering to Jael, the wife of Heber, who eventually killed Sisera. But Deborah talked about the honor being removed from Barak and these other cowardly men for insisting a woman go into battle with them. There was no praise for these men in what they did.

So the second part of the answer to your question is – you as a woman should not seek authority over men. Now sometimes because of this sinful world we live in women are sometimes placed over men – but Christian women should not seek this out.

biblicalgenderroles, Biblical Gender Roles 14 Comments [9/23/2018 8:35:15 AM]
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Quote# 140593

7 Ways to Discipline Your Wife
Discipline toward your wife should always start with the gentlest approach first and only move toward harder forms of discipline if the gentle approach does not yield results. Warnings should always be given before harder types of discipline are implemented. You should always pray and seek the Lord’s guidance before bringing these types of discipline on his wife.

Here are 7 ways you can discipline your wife if a gentle rebuke does not work:

#1 For Disrespect
If your wife is speaking in disrespectful and demeaning ways in public in front of others (whether this is toward you or others) this might require a public rebuke of her tone and actions.

#2 For Overspending
If your wife is spending money against your wishes – this may require confiscation of her credit cards and ATM cards. Of course this can be done in measured amounts. Perhaps you might just take away one or two cards that she has abused and if her spending continues to get out of control you would move toward removing the ATM card as well. This does not necessarily mean she would have no money, but you could give her a cash allowance each week.

#3 For failing to care for your children or contradicting your authority with your children
If your wife is failing to do her duties as a mother toward your children or she is continuing to contradict your authority with the children then perhaps you might put off buying that new car for her and have her continue driving her older car for a while as long as it is safe for her to drive. If you have to purchase another car – you could downgrade the type of car she will be able to get or buy her a used one instead. Maybe you put off the purchase of that new dishwasher she has been wanting.

#4 For too much TV watching
If your wife is watching too much TV you could cancel the cable or satellite TV and just have antenna service.

#5 For too much online time
If your wife is spending too much time online (like Facebook or other social outlets or online shopping) then if she does not respond to your warnings about this you could change your internet code on your router so that her devices will not have access to the internet.

#6 For neglect of the home
Maybe your wife is not watching too much TV or spending too much time online but she is still neglectful toward her duties in your home. If your wife is being neglectful of her duties to care for your home then you might put off that new living room furniture set you have been talking about or those new window dressings she has been wanting.

#7 For sexual denial
If your wife is un-submissive in the sexual arena and chronically denies your sexual advances (without legitimate medical or psychological reasons for doing so) then perhaps that upcoming trip you were going to take her on gets canceled. Maybe that wardrobe upgrade your wife was looking forward to gets downsized or canceled. The Bible says a man has to supply his wife with clothing, but it does not say it has to be the expensive clothing she wants!

Some of these disciplinary procedures may affect the family as a whole, but sometimes it is necessary to do this in an attempt to bring your wife to repentance.

These are just some examples of non-abusive ways that a Christian husband can discipline his wife in a way that honors God and his design for the home.

Conclusion
God not only give husbands the power to discipline their wives, but he also gives them to the duty to do this. Men should not discipline their wives out some sort of power trip or prideful arrogance. Instead men should discipline their wives from a place of love in order to bring about holiness and order in their homes. Even if a wife rejects her husband’s discipline as Israel did God as her husband – he should still discipline her and pray that God will bring his wife to repentance.

biblicalgenderroles, Biblical Gender Roles 19 Comments [9/23/2018 8:35:06 AM]
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Quote# 140591

To me, all of this............the fake gender, fake news, fake politics, the gay movement, the pediphile movement, ALL are clear signs that God has indeed, turned mankind over to deluded minds, as He said He would. I would surmise that we are going to see the demise of anything good in humankind, and in our world, go down the drain even faster now, more than ever before. Keep looking up, for it can't be too much longer before our wonderful King and Lord comes for us!!


kathymendel, Rapture Ready 15 Comments [9/23/2018 8:03:19 AM]
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Quote# 140590

My Trip to Hell
 
Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell (Proverbs 23:14).

I fell asleep, and with no warning began to have an encounter. I was immediately taken into hell. I didn’t understand why, but I was put into a pit reserved for those who are lost and without God. I saw many people were being tormented and tortured by fire. I was allowed to experience the same separation from God that everybody else did. I didn’t understand why I was down there. I was saved; I loved God. Thoughts raced through my mind. I couldn’t have died in my sleep and ended up in hell, could I? Why am I down here like this? I served God. I loved Him. Why would He allow me to be put down here like this?

Suddenly, I saw Jesus in the distance. He was entering hell. Boy, was I happy to see Him! He was wearing his customary, beautiful white robe. I thought that I was lost and totally separated from Him forever. I saw Him making His way toward me. He stopped to talk to different people as He walked toward me. I was amazed that Jesus would even talk to sinners or those who did not make it to Heaven. I didn’t hear or recognize what He was saying to individuals as He passed along, but I know He was speaking briefly with each of them.

When I saw Him doing this, I decided to ask Him why I was down in hell when He came to me. You see, I had just had wonderful fellowship with Him in a visitation, so I didn’t understand why I was down in hell afterwards. When He finally got to me, I noticed that His white robe was glistening even brighter than I had ever seen it. When He came up to me I cried out, “Lord, why am I down here?”

Then He did something that I didn’t understand for years. Jesus with loving, tender care reached down and picked me up like a baby and put me over His knees as He bent to sit down, like you would when disciplining and spanking a child. As a matter of fact, He laid me across His slightly bent knees and started taking His right bare hand and physically beating me with His hands saying, “Because you were not a friendly evangelist.” He spanked me with his hands in rhythm with His words! Then, suddenly I woke up, and I was back in my body. My heart was pounding fast and my blood was racing; I had just been in hell and the terror of this encounter frightened me. I got out of bed because I was covered in perspiration, and I wondered what He meant. I was also very happy that I had not been left in hell.

David Taylor, My Trip to Heaven: Face to Face with Jesus (book) 10 Comments [9/23/2018 8:01:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

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I have had many horrible things happen to me in life, and have been in Job's shoes. Job's wife never abandoned him, nor was she taken from him by death; but I have not had the companionship of a faithful wife since 2006, when she divorced me against my will. When I hear a man praise his wife in a church, I have to leave the room, because I am heart-broken, being alone all these years. I have forgiven her, but she still blames me for everything. That's okay, God is our only Judge (James 4:12). When Job's calamity ended, God restored to him double of everything he lost. I lost my home after the divorce, and have rented since, and will likely never own my own home again (and if I do, it won't be anything like the large home I once owned). Psalms 145:21, “My mouth shall speak the praise of the LORD: and let all flesh bless his holy name for ever and ever.”

My neck injury is permanent and I will suffer in constant toothache-like neck pain (stenosis, radiculopathy and displaced disks) for the rest of my survival on earth. I cannot express in words the misery I endure in constant neck pain. Since it is right next to my head, it cannot be ignored. So, in many ways, Job had it made, because his suffering ended, and he was restored double. Job's painful boils from head to toe were all healed. His health was restored. I will never regain my full health. Job never lost the companionship of his wife when life caved in upon him, although she discouraged him (because she was discouraged too). I don't feel sorry for myself, nor do I feel sorry for Job. Job is not my hero. It is hard for me to feel sympathy for people who suffer, because I have suffered so much myself. I can relate to their suffering, and help them, but I do not feel sorry for them. I have suffered through more things than I can remember. Psalms 145:21, “My mouth shall speak the praise of the LORD: and let all flesh bless his holy name for ever and ever.”

I know what inexplicable lasting pain of soul feels like, lasting years, with no one to help me back up. I have even reached out to Baptist churches on Guam for help, who left me for dead and couldn't have cared less about me, such as Harvest Baptist Church on Guam (whose pastor in 2014 compelled me to leave and in 2017 told me I couldn't come back) and Agana Heights Baptist Church (whose pastor in 2009 was mean to me and didn't want me in his church because of hateful slander he had heard about me) and Lighthouse Baptist Church (whose pastor in 2018 got angry at me for exposing corruptible seed and the Bob Jones Alexandrian cult). A fool would say that I must be at fault, since there are multiple churches that don't want me; but God knows the truth is that I am more righteous than all of them! They are the self-righteous hypocrites! They are the one's (all of them) promoting or bidding Godspeed to corruptible seed. They are the ones who tolerate Satan's counterfeit Bible versions, tolerate and promote John MacArthur, and are indifferent toward truth. They are the bastards, not me! I don't have a problem with pastors, they all have a problem with me!!! GOD KNOWS THAT I AM PURE OF HEART!!!!!!!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 25 Comments [9/22/2018 12:05:57 PM]
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My freedom to choose to reply to your post is sufficient evidence of my supernatural ability to make a consciously driven choice. A natural explanation would require that my response to your post was entirely pre determined by the uncontrollable physically defined reactions in my material brain.

Alan Burns, Religion and Ethics 7 Comments [9/21/2018 4:49:38 PM]
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A valid Biblical point gleaned from the existence of RFID chips that will cause sores and abscess' is this...that it is our electrical nature that talks to our genetic health...and Jesus showed us how to harness that science within our own genetics for our own health improvement. Hard to understand, maybe, but if we don't pay heed it is only us that will suffer as individual mutants of the scurrilous thinking of Satan.


NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 11 Comments [9/21/2018 4:49:17 PM]
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Herald Newman: I don't think we need rigid definitions of "love" and "harm" in order to understand that love is generally beneficial, and harm is not.
Let's imagine two societies:
In society A, all of the members hate one another, and do not care what happens to any other member of that society. Each member lives by the philosophy "I got mine, and I'll fight you for yours." If a member runs out of food, they should have planned better, and probably starve. When a member is attacked by animals, nobody comes to their aid.
In society B, the members all are concerned about other members of the society, and actively try to protect them from the dangers of the world. Members who have no food are given some of the excess with the expectation of repaying the kindness. When a member of society is attacked by animals another member will try to help and protect them.
Now tell me. Which society do you think is more likely to survive and flourish? Which society would you rather live in? I'm going to bet that most of you would rather live in society B.
So now comes the question. Why does love and morality need an outside source?? We're an evolved social species, and our evolution has made us so that we generally want to cooperate with each other. The survival of our species depends on us caring about certain members of the tribe, and wanting to protect them. Doing so has allowed us to survive.
I still shake my head that people, let alone Christians, insist that morality needs some "outside source" is order to make sense. It doesn't! Maybe it's because we're so far removed from the days when surviving through the night meant you had to put your life into the hands of other members of the tribe.


Martin: So where is your evidence for Evolution? It's a fairy story for grown ups, nothing more.
You're morality, as you describe it, is based on selfishness, not love. You ask what is best for me, for my group.
What is missing from your understanding of life is your acceptance of what you know, that God exists. Life is only good when it is based on the respect and love for our Creator. From that we naturally have respect and love for each other. From love for God comes a desire for justice and the protection of the weak. Our society is degenerating, care for each other is evaporating, the powerful look after themselves and do not care for the weak. Love is wanting the best for a person, not seeking the survival of the species.

Harold Newman: "So where is your evidence for Evolution? It's a fairy story for grown ups, nothing more." Go take a science class, or try the Wikipedia article on "evidence of common descent" Your ignorance of evolution does not justify the belief that it's a "fairy story for grown ups."
"What is missing from your understanding of life is your acceptance of what you know, that God exists" Are you going to quote Romans 1:20 at me too?
"Life is only good when it is based on the respect and love for our Creator." Says who ???

Martin: Science will show you that here is no evidence for Evolution, only claims and assertions.
That you know your folly does not require me to provide quotes. God is quite clear, apart from God, nothing is good.


Martin, Premier 8 Comments [9/21/2018 4:48:28 PM]
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If Texas elects a Democrat, they’re going to ban barbecue across the state of Texas.

Ted Cruz, ABC News 24 Comments [9/21/2018 4:43:28 PM]
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Lynchings in Congo as penis theft panic hits capital

KINSHASA (Reuters) - Police in Congo have arrested 13 suspected sorcerers accused of using black magic to steal or shrink men’s penises after a wave of panic and attempted lynchings triggered by the alleged witchcraft.

Reports of so-called penis snatching are not uncommon in West Africa, where belief in traditional religions and witchcraft remains widespread, and where ritual killings to obtain blood or body parts still occur.

Rumors of penis theft began circulating last week in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo’s sprawling capital of some 8 million inhabitants. They quickly dominated radio call-in shows, with listeners advised to beware of fellow passengers in communal taxis wearing gold rings.

Purported victims, 14 of whom were also detained by police, claimed that sorcerers simply touched them to make their genitals shrink or disappear, in what some residents said was an attempt to extort cash with the promise of a cure.

“You just have to be accused of that, and people come after you. We’ve had a number of attempted lynchings. ... You see them covered in marks after being beaten,” Kinshasa’s police chief, Jean-Dieudonne Oleko, told Reuters on Tuesday.

Police arrested the accused sorcerers and their victims in an effort to avoid the sort of bloodshed seen in Ghana a decade ago, when 12 suspected penis snatchers were beaten to death by angry mobs. The 27 men have since been released.

“I’m tempted to say it’s one huge joke,” Oleko said.

“But when you try to tell the victims that their penises are still there, they tell you that it’s become tiny or that they’ve become impotent. To that I tell them, ‘How do you know if you haven’t gone home and tried it’,” he said.

Some Kinshasa residents accuse a separatist sect from nearby Bas-Congo province of being behind the witchcraft in revenge for a recent government crackdown on its members.

“It’s real. Just yesterday here, there was a man who was a victim. We saw. What was left was tiny,” said 29-year-old Alain Kalala, who sells phone credits near a Kinshasa police station.

Various Congolese People, Reuters 16 Comments [9/21/2018 4:40:59 PM]
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