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Quote# 710

I believe it can be more or less proved, or at least there is better evidence for the truth of the Bible than the Gita. First off let me state that the philosophy of the Gita makes more sense to me on a rational level than that of the Bible, and yet I believe in the message of Jesus. Just because something is rational or seems sensible or can be explained convincingly, doesn't mean it is necessarily true!

The evidence of the Bible comes from the multiple testimony of people who witnessed a man who came not just with words of wisdom, but was witnessed performing a crescendo of astonishing, effortless miracles culminating in raising himself from the dead, as he had said he would! The witnesses held on to their testimony for all their lives in the face of serious persecution. Most of them were killed for that testimony.

Another piece of evidence comes from the fact that the coming of Jesus was foretold in the writings of the Old Testament, which is dated to well before the birth of Christ.

As for the Bhagavad Gita, tradition has named an author for it, but there are no independent witnesses testifying soberly to the miracles of Krishna. In fact it is only a part of a much larger epic, the Mahabharata, which seems a legend much like Homer's Odyssey.

hermit, Rapture Ready 0 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 711

The Gita is lovely and seemingly profound in its teachings, but unlike the Bible it has no evidence to show it is anything other than the fictional work of a man.

hermit, Rapture Ready 13 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 712

What about the fact that people that don't belive in His [God's] existance are afraid to examine any evidence with an open mind?

gzusfreq, Christian Guitar Resources 13 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 713

Luke 16:31
"But he said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.' "

"Moses and the Prophets" refers to the Scripture. Therefore, by Christ's words, the Bible is the best proof of Christianity. Christianity is true because the Bible says it is.

mustbenothing, Christian Guitar Resources 16 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 955

Sexual perverts should not be allowed to adopt children. Has this whole world gone mad? Don't take my word for anything , but read your bibles. Good grief is there such a thing as common sense left anywhere? I don't hate any gay person, but what they are doing is an abomination to God!

Tyler, Christian Forums 13 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 956

The fact that gays cannot produce children of their own is a testimony by God that such a relationship is against His will.

Tyler, Christian Forums 20 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 957

You've got to be joking. Catholics don't pray to Mary? I'm not sure what kind of Catholics you've met... but my Mother raised me a Catholic, both of her sisters are Catholic and my Grandmar was a Catholic and they all pray to Mary. Sometimes more than God.

What is the "Hail Mary" if not a prayer to Mary. Catholics can twist and writhe around the facts all they want, but they still pray to Mary.

Rize, Christian Forums 12 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 958

GOD is real! He is everywhere! I urge you to believe me, friend! I have an argument that supports this. Look at the wind. Can you see the wind? No, nobody can! It's the same thing with GOD! You can't see GOD, but HE is there! You may say, you can see the effect of wind, though. Well, you can also see the effect of GOD on a person. When a drunk gets saved, he doesn't want to see another thing of beer. When a prostitute gets saved, she doesn't stand on the streets anymore for money. She goes to get a job, and joins a church. I could go on and on! If Osama Bin Laden got saved, you would definitely see the effect of GOD on HIM. Same with any person. But I'm getting off subject now. Now many atheists have said to me, "Well you can measure the wind! Can you measure GOD?" My answer to this is simple. No you can't measure GOD because HE is everywhere! You could not find a ruler or measure stick big enough to measure GOD! Now you might say, "Well that still doesn't answer the question!" Yes it does! Anyways, I don't think that you would want to measure GOD because you would be desintegrated by HIS beauty and HIS shining love!

Bobby, Internet Infidels 16 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 959

I am not in a cult. I am a born again, bible-believing Christian! That is not a cult! To all of you, I can say on judgment day that I told you that GOD was real, but you just mocked me. You will see that GOD is real when you see HIM as your judge. It will be too late for you to accept HIM then, so I urge you to please accept HIM now!

Bobby, Internet Infidels 17 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 960

Christianity is not considered a cult. It is not in the "Kingdom of Cults" book by Walter Martin [a Christian].

Bobby, Internet Infidels 13 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 961

[To people who've had Near Death Experiences in which angels told them you only need to be fairly good to get to Heaven]

Of course, you've already told me that you will never consider my beliefs to be truth. It really saddens me to see you deceived in this way by these "beings of light" and "spirit guides". They give you these wonderful feelings of love love love and make you feel good so you believe whatever they tell you. It's even sadder that people will read the things you say and believe them without seeing what God has to say about it. But, then, that doesn't matter to you either because I remember you told me that the Bible isn't the authority for your life. I've said this to NDEers before and I'll say it again. Any being of light you see in an NDE that tells you anything that contradicts the word of God, does not come from Him but is a deceiving, lying spirit. The reason? To get you to think that you're okay, you're going to heaven no matter what so there's nothing for you to do. You can ignore most of that stuffy old Bible just practive love love love. You don't need Christ. That is an out and out lie, Lekatt! If you refuse to accept the Way that God has provided for you (and that Way is Jesus Christ and His death for you) I can tell you on the authority of God's word that you'll never ever see heaven. I pray your eyes will be opened one day, sir, before it's too late.

His4ever, The Straight Dope 2 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 962

You are not demons. Demons are fallen angels that decided to go with the devil. You will not be slaughtered in front of JESUS. You will be cast into a lake of fire burning with fire and brimstone. You cannot die in here because your soul can't die. But, your soul will feel pain, and you will be tormented. That is the punishment for rejecting the LORD. But you don't have to go through such a horrible judgment if you would only accept Him!

Bobby, Internet Infidels 13 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 963

By the way, I left out the most important part. JESUS CHRIST was dead for 3 days, but on the 3rd day, He arose and He is now on the right hand side of JESUS! Now, that should make it a little bit more convincing, shouldn't it?

Bobby, Internet Infidels 21 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 964

The reason that there are so many versions of the bible is because Christians now a-days have been changing the word of GOD to suit themselves, and that's not right. I am not that way. I am strictly K.J.V. However, I do respect the Islam people. I respect you guys because you are true and faithful to your religion, you cover up your woman in veils. I personally wish that Christianity was more like Islam, only with our beliefs.

Bobby, Internet Infidels 7 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 965

do you really believe that these guys [scientists] know what they're talking about?"

"now if we are finding dinasaurs daily and in great detail...how come there aren't thousands of half-apes, winged-fish, deformed mammals. And most important how come there are still apes and fish"

"Of course, they are changing the theory to match the find...whay do we keep on believing science theory's."

"Where did the first particle, atom, proton, vaccume, or first minute piece of existance come from? Don't skirt the question give me a straight answer...ok, see I realize that this does not prove the God of the Bible, but it proves some kind of being greater then us."

"it takes way way more faith to believe this then to believe the fact that an all-knowing, all-powerful, eternal God created us for his pleasure and enjoyment."

"no offenence, but you better pray every night that there is no God, I'll put it this way, Even if God had not made it so obvious I would live my life as if God was watching everyday..What do you have to lose."

"The Bible never, never approves killing, rape, or any other worldly sin. They are not real Christians.

hayden, POD Warrior Forum 4 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 966

Praying that the agnostics and atheists jumpstart their brains before it is too late.

Sid, Rapture Ready 19 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 967

Let me get this straight, you want me, a Believer to go into a site called skeptics annotated bible dot com???

I'll pass thanks

ChrisU, Rapture Ready 9 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 968

I have to disagree. No matter what "science" says, the Bible will always be right. Anything I see is going to be twisted to fit my bias, which is in creationism.

Athlon4all, Christian Forums 7 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 969

Ace, for your rebellion against God, you deserve to be put to death.

Merqutio, Rapture Ready 7 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 970

God did not intend for us to use human reason and judge his character and being.

Amessenjah, POD Warrior Forum 19 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 971

[On allegations that other religions have trinities of gods too]

Christianity didn't take this from the pagans. Demonic spirits introduced it to pagans.

Christians know this for sure, that satan is always trying to impersonate the true God. Why do you think he was cast down to the earth?

Amessenjah, POD Warrior Forum 5 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 972

Atheists are hypocrits because in all reality they are the most closed-minded people in the human race.

hayden, POD Warrior Forum 9 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 973

[On Halloween]

Dressing up as something you are not so as to hide your true identity and demanding treats or giving tricks if you do not get what you want.

Great message to lead kids, "innocent" kids, to doing the right thing.
Great message to lead "innocent" kids to the Lord.

You all think I take this too seriously, while I think you are all shoving your heads in the sand hoping the bad of it will go away by simply not looking at it.

Duane Morse, Christian Forums 2 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 974

I see the entire concept behind halloween as being evil. It glorifies the demonic and evil and puts a "fun" twist on it. So it is subtly leading children to believe that demons, ghosts, Satan, are all for our amusement and not to be taken seriously. It leads them to evil ways of thinking. There is no Light in halloween, just darkness which is presented to children as light.
Same thing applies to tv shows like Buffy, the Vampire Slayer. Or Harry Potter.

I am both sorry and disturbed that more of you do not see this.

Duane Morse, Christian Forums 16 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 975

I totally agree with you, Duane, and I gave you 500 blessings [ChristianForums quality poster awards] for your wonderful posts. Halloween is a bunch of Satanic garbage. That's why we don't participate in it. I went trick-or treating as a kid but I didn't know any better and in case anyone is wondering, no we didn't beat people up for not giving us candy or do bad things to their houses but that's beside the point. Halloween is Satanic. It's when people like to dress up like witches and ghosts and otherwise gross and scary things and play mean jokes on people whether they give them candy or not. I remember one year when I was a kid, someone smashed our pumpkins and we didn't even do anything to anybody. We were passing out candy just like everybody else and we still got our pumpkins smashed. Once my brother told me that when he was a teenager he ran up to a trick-or-treater and snatched the bag of candy right out of her hands and made her cry. The whole night is just mean spirited. I realize that not eveybody acts that way but just because some people are nice and dress up like Barney and kitties and other cute things on a mean-spirited Satanic holiday doesn't make it right.

Tami, Christian Forums 2 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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