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Quote# 724

I know TONS of people who have children in spite of "the pill" or other methods of birth control, or are products themselves of such an "accident". God isn't bound by some little pill or piece of rubber. Nothing is 100% effective, and God will give you a baby if he wants to. Heck, he made a VIRGIN give birth; he can work in spite of birth control

t3rm, Christian Guitar Resources 25 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 723

That B[irth]C[ontrol] is a sin is the FACT that scripture in the NT uses the word sin when referring to Christians who sin, the Greek word when translated literally means "to miss the mark."
By not trusting GOD utterly I am "missing the mark." Sinning.
By using BC, I personally don't feel that I trust GOD's judgement on when to use my body to create life. I am telling Him, "I don't want kids now Lord!" Just because it's not my timing never means it's not GOD's.

Natalie Faith, Christian Guitar Resources 8 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 722

I watched a video today on abortion and the woman that was speaking mentioned that she was glad Christians don't have as many abortions as non-Christians and that we reproduce more than non-Christians, because we will have more people to share the Gospel with the world... yet we prevent birth or the possibility of it by stopping conception...

Natalie Faith, Christian Guitar Resources 1 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 721

why doesn't anyone who thinks bc is ok use scripture?

God is Sovereign in birth. He opens & shuts the womb; He blesses with children."

"Procreation is part of God's design and was commanded by God at the creation: Gen. 1:27-28"

"The Bible nowhere encourages B.C., but everywhere condones fertility!"

"Can someone please explain how birth control is possibly a good thing... because if it does not please, honor, and glorify God, then what buisness is it of the Christian??

phil23, Christian Guitar Resources 11 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 720

Also, world population threshold smeshhold, ever crossed this country in a car and seen the teeming masses in iowa? this world can support far more than we dream of. besides bc [birth control] is a new concept in the course of history.... ever think of that?

BillSPrestonEsq, Christian Guitar Resources 17 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 719

I have never heard a non-selfish biblical reason that supported birth control. Even if the Bible did not consistantly encourage children as blessings from God I would just look at the world's stance on this issue and run hard the other way!

Hamil, Christian Guitar Resources 1 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 718

I was wondering why YOU were making such a fuss over it. As the latter comment, Nothing has yet proven (scientifically/arcaeologically) that the Bible is false.

gsuzfreq, Christian Guitar Resources 14 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 717

Of course the Bible hasn't been 'proven historically true in every detail', It has not been proven false in any detail either.

gzusfreq, Christian Guitar Resources 15 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 716

maybe you need to research this claim better before you mock too much . I know 2 guys there who climbed it [Mt. Ararat] and have compelling photos, some from the inside of the [Noah's Ark] structure.

BillSPrestonEsq, Christian Guitar Resources 19 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 715

You've never studied Genisis and held it up to scientific facts, have you?

gzusfreq, Christian Guitar Resources 36 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 714

Name one 'Holy book' or religion, including yours, that explains the creation(or evoloution, your call) of all living things in the correct scientific order other than the bible.

gzusfreq, Christian Guitar Resources 7 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 713

Luke 16:31
"But he said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.' "

"Moses and the Prophets" refers to the Scripture. Therefore, by Christ's words, the Bible is the best proof of Christianity. Christianity is true because the Bible says it is.

mustbenothing, Christian Guitar Resources 16 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 712

What about the fact that people that don't belive in His [God's] existance are afraid to examine any evidence with an open mind?

gzusfreq, Christian Guitar Resources 13 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 711

The Gita is lovely and seemingly profound in its teachings, but unlike the Bible it has no evidence to show it is anything other than the fictional work of a man.

hermit, Rapture Ready 11 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 710

I believe it can be more or less proved, or at least there is better evidence for the truth of the Bible than the Gita. First off let me state that the philosophy of the Gita makes more sense to me on a rational level than that of the Bible, and yet I believe in the message of Jesus. Just because something is rational or seems sensible or can be explained convincingly, doesn't mean it is necessarily true!

The evidence of the Bible comes from the multiple testimony of people who witnessed a man who came not just with words of wisdom, but was witnessed performing a crescendo of astonishing, effortless miracles culminating in raising himself from the dead, as he had said he would! The witnesses held on to their testimony for all their lives in the face of serious persecution. Most of them were killed for that testimony.

Another piece of evidence comes from the fact that the coming of Jesus was foretold in the writings of the Old Testament, which is dated to well before the birth of Christ.

As for the Bhagavad Gita, tradition has named an author for it, but there are no independent witnesses testifying soberly to the miracles of Krishna. In fact it is only a part of a much larger epic, the Mahabharata, which seems a legend much like Homer's Odyssey.

hermit, Rapture Ready 0 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 709

[How to save someone from Hinduism]

Take her straight to one of those counter-cult rescue organizations and have her "deprogrammed"!!!"

"It caused me to remember when I was a young Catholic girl dating a Mormon boy and I was confronted with heavy pressure to convert to Mormonism. It was my Catholic upbringing that caused me to fall out of the chair laughing at the Mormon elders when they began presenting me with outlandish tales of Jesus, and angels bringing old Joseph Smith 'another gospel.'

DubyahGee, Rapture Ready 9 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 708

first I need to figure out just who Bhagavad Gita is, and Hindu Vedas. Probably written in sanskrit, and probably pantheism, which is really easy to disprove. The god is everywhere, and in everything, and all are one, that is just plain silly.

Shadowlands, Rapture Ready 1 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 707

Back in college in the late 60's I took a Great Religions class. I remember studyin the Vedas, etc. as well as a lot of other religious writings. Maybe I wasn't the brightest bulb in the string, but I remember praising God that I was a Christian. The Old Testament (for Judaism) and the New Testament for Christianity made so much more sense than the others. Maybe it is because I was raised in the western tradition, but seriously, those other writings just seemed to be more than confusing.

Kristi, Rapture Ready 6 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 706

Ghosts are everywhere. I think a lot are good though. I have been walking in my house late night in the dark, and saw a quick glimpse of something. Not sure what just did. Guardian Angels. But as 4 evil ones, i dont know. I know the devil is real and can pollute peoples minds!

EternalWarrior, POD Warrior Forum 3 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 705

I know that it is getting close to Halloween so you see ghosts every wear in the stores. That makes me wonder. What are ghosts? They have been documented and scientificaly researched. Evan the most sane people see hauntings. I've taken a tour of an actual huanted house (The Whaley House, San Diego, CA) I know that when you die you go to Judgment Day and so on and so forth. Are these realy spirits of the departed. I was an amateur paranormal investigator and I have seen some pretty wierd stuff. I just want to know what it is. Is it a demon? It could be but demons are monopreasant. Multiple ghosts can be seen. Is there some cross between Heaven and Hell when spirits srill walk the Earth.

hayden, POD Warrior Forum 12 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 704

[On clinical depression]

While what you are experiencing may simply be demonic attack exacerbated by isolation from a community, it may also be a physiochemical imbalance needing a medical doctor's intervention. Please do look into both courses of action.

sniff, POD Warrior Forum 15 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 703

Well, on a personal standpoint and being a Christian the only literature I need to read to understand there is proof that Jesus existed and that He had a brother named James is the bible. I dont care what the scientist have to say, I dont care what the LA times has to say..or any person out there. I have my proof and that is why I believe.

tinskysk8, POD Warrior Forum 8 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 702

[Replying to 'Would you consider women being forbidden to speak in church sexist?']

No, because firstly, that women aren't any less than men because they aren't allowed to speak, and secondly, such a statement would only be made if there is a good reason. Never does the Bible say that women are less than equal.

Grace Not Works, POD Warrior Forum 12 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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