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Quote# 1331

By secular do you mean atheistic? Because if so, that is simply another form of faith.

s0uljah, Christian Forums 12 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1332

There is nothing scientific about evolution but a lot of high school and college textbooks attempt to indoctrinate young people into believing they are just the product of a "chance" occurrence and apes and humans came from a "common ancestor." No wonder young people all over this nation are killing each other left and right.

hercules1, POD Warrior Forum 6 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 1333

There is simply no if ands or buts about it, she [Mary] should NOT be prayed to, and if you pray to her, you HAVE BEEN led astray. What is hard about this to understand? If this isnt clear to you, I would say you HAVE NOT read the bible enough, and most likely you HAVE BEEN spoon fed by some wacko priest that likely humms some odious tune to the melody of mans tradition and not Gods WORD.

Stowen, Rapture Ready 14 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 1334

. . . but that is the problem. The ones who need to understand [Catholics] refuse to jumpstart their brains.

Sid, Rapture Ready 18 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1335

You bring up the rise of Mormonism [to compare with the rise of Christianity] - and that is indeed an interesting and well documented story - but it so heavily builds upon the base laid by Christianity that it really isn't a very good analogy. From a scholastic standpoint, though not a theological one, it is simply another sect of Christianity.

sniff, POD Warrior Forum 6 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1336

Do you honestly think that you are the original in raising these questions? If the Bible could be proven false/and or/inaccurate, then Christianity wouldn't have survived 2000 years of persecution. People aren't willling to be burned alive and cut in half for lies. The only way that I see anyone could stand by their beliefs through all this because a loving God changed their lives through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

punkbassist4God, POD Warrior Forum 16 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1337

AMEN!!!! Evolution is the most retarded scientific idea ever created. DNA.....the genetic code for all humans do not have one single item related to any species of monkies, gorillas, chimps, etc. Wake up....the theory is wrong.

Misguided Angel, POD Warrior Forum 11 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1338

I fully expect in the near future that there will be a HUGE IMAGE of this demon spirit "Mary" in all of the sky for the entire world to see. That would be an event that would break down the barr and unite all false religions, wouldn't it?

ann s., Rapture Ready 14 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1339

Once again, go get a bunch of rabbits. Start breeding them. And when you come up with something that is not simply a different rabbit, but something that is fully not a rabbit, then come show me.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 8 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 1340

[Replying to 'at what point would it become "fully not a rabbit"?']When it becomes something else. For petesake how can you not get it??? I don't know what you are going to evolve it into. A dog? A bear? I cannot answer your question with a specific animal other than to say "anything other than a rabbit"!!! If I say an animal, you will say "that's not how science works". If I don't say a specific one, you say my challenge is meaningless. This all stems from you knowing you cannot do it and are hoping for some sort of loophole. I'm not going to give you one.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 5 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 1341

[Replying to 'If a rapist was sentenced to death, and his mother died in place of him, how is justice served at all?']Actually the mystery of Christ dying for us is even harder to comprehend than the scenario you post. Here is a better analagy: A rapist commited a crime that the law required death to be the punishment - no jury, no deliberations, just him and the judge. And the judge, feeling gracious (for some unexplainable reason), said the law requires death for the crime itself, so if you can find someone who is willing to come forward to take the death sentence for you, then you will be set free and justified in the eyes of the law. So, of course, no-one would step forward to die in the place of this gruesome criminal, until.... The person who he raped so horribly and violently, and showed no mercy to, went to the judge and said- I WILL DIE FOR HIM- and the judge slams the gavel and orders the new prisoner to be executed in the morning, and he says to the executioners-" do not be merciful on the prisoner, for in taking the place of the condemed, he must suffer exactly as the condemed would have- the law requires no less for this crime." And then the judge turns to the criminal who had fully deserved his death sentence (and he knew he had deserved it and stood speechless as the one whom he had violated offered to take his place)- and says "My child, you are now justified in the eyes of the law- you are set free" This criminal feeling shock and disbelief at what had taken place- swore the rest of his life in service of the one who died for him. He was so awed that the victim had taken his punishment, that he told everyone he knew of the mercy that this victim had showed him- He swore to never let the merciful one's death be in vain. He would tell the world!! A lengthy explanation- but I hope it suffices- and to answer your final question of how can this even be justice? I will never claim to understand why the son of God stepped forward to take our place in death- it will remain a mystery forever to me. I don't know why He did it, but I'm forever grateful that He did. To answer your other question, to why God requires a life for a life (blood)- I tried to explain that in my above post. Also, you ask why doesn't he just snap His fingers and clear our sin?- well, if He did that He wouldn't be a just God. Law requires that there be a punishment for the crime.

kerri, Rapture Ready 7 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1342

Like it or not this is the law of God- and who are we to question it?

kerri, Rapture Ready 10 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1343

Wiccans are Satan worshippers. Sorry to disillusion you, but it's the truth. They may deny it, but of course they would. And right now, yes, I do believe that Satan is using the Muslims, in their misguided beliefs, as his tools. They kill without conscience!! They preach to kill the infidels...infidels being any NON-MUSLIM. You would hold them out as icons of goodness?

Chris4Christ, Rapture Ready 6 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1344

Society is out to erase any mention of God. There is a world wide conspiracy to systematically eliminate all forms of mentioning, praying, worshping , teaching anything in regards to Jesus, God and the Holy Spirit. The effects are already being felt in the EU, Spain has eliminated several churches and has a mandate to arrest pastors if they as much as attempt worship--citing that this is a form of brainwashing and is against the "Natural" flow.

TonkaTruck, Rapture Ready 15 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1345

Non-believers call God a tyrant [for sending good people to hell]. Thing is, He isn't a tyrant to me...I'm going to heaven.

muzikdude, Christian Forums 25 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1346

Thats [sleep paralysis] a demonic attack that you described. I've experienced quite frightening instances of this. There have been several times taht I've felt a presence and I couldn't move at all like your talking about. One time that was little different I could felt as though an outside force was molesting me. I saw a yellowish haze hovering just below the cieling. I cried out for Jesus and the I woke up. I could never forget that, it was freaky. I know sounds unbelievable, maybe i'm psycho or maybe it was a dream. Who knows?

Porfirio, POD Warrior Forum 6 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1347

Isaiah was NOT a false prophet [because he made a prophecy that didn't come true] because Jesus supported the truth and witness of the prophets.

Clarice O'C, Internet Infidels 4 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1349

If you dropped your computer on the ground and smashed it. Would it put itself back together. It is proven that a living organism CANNOT come from a none living organism. Evolution is supposed to evolve us into something better, but we are getting worse. I have heard that evolution has happened because we needed something extra. Like at one stage we had no stomach and therefore couldnt eat, then somehow a stomoach appears. Well I want to fly, but you dont see wings popping out do you. Has anyone EVER seen evolution. NO!!!!!! It amazes me how all this is just ONE BIG accident. A whole bunch of rockes came together and earth was created, then a little spec grew into what we are now. Where did that little spec come from to start with.

hercules1, POD Warrior Forum 8 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1350

Yeah its true I dont know much about evolution. Please forgive me. It just makes sense that I came from a human. You know, human having human babies and birds having baby birds. It doesnt appeal to me that I may have come from a monkeys butt along the line somewhere. But if thats your fancy, fair enough. Good bananas to you.

hercules1, POD Warrior Forum 11 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1351

I must disagree with Buddhism. No way could all humanity ever acheive the same goal by doing the same thing. Humanity is too diverse. Never happen.

JahsBlazer, POD Warrior Forum 7 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1352

Well lets look at the causes of cancer. Smoking is one. Skin cancer is another. A lot of cancer is caused by harsh chemicals and radiation. Its caused by what you eat and drink. Smoking- man made killer. Skin cancer- We had what was called an ozone layer, man has destroyed it. Chemicals and radiation. Manmade killers which are put inot food and what not. As far as I know and dont quote me because I dont profees to have all the answers, but if anyone does get cancer, it is our own fault. We decided to modify what God gave us and its killing us. I'n not saying that we deserve to get cancer, it is sad that it spreads and some people do get cancer through no fault of their own. The only way to prevent cancer was to not modify everything and live as nature intended. This problem started a looong time ago.

hercules1, POD Warrior Forum 7 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1353

Witchcraft is not of the Lord. The power comes from energy that is creating and given by demonic spirits. These demonic spirits all have a rank, a purpose, and a master. Their master is Satan. Satan is very pleased if a person decides to tap into the powers of witchcraft. He may use those powers that the person calls upon to show them supernatural things;(deja-vu feelings, paranormal happenings, coincidences, superstitious feelings) These demonic spirits may take the form of animals, the animals may act a certain way that would make a person believe that they had power over that animal or even a human. Withcraft in my opinion quickly turns into a practice of vampirism. This vampirism that I am speaking of is merely spiritual. It is were people feed off the thoughts of one another in order to become more powerful. This really takes effect when the person has sex with the other, essentially they become one spiritually, so the energy or power is increased every time you sleep with a different person. I may be getting off the subject of witchcraft and into the subject of Hallucinogenic drug cults, but oh well. To me it is all the same. These behaviors and thought processes are highly addictive and can cause very bad emotional and physical problems. A person could have insomnia, lose a lot of weight, have psychotic episodes, become suicidal, put distant between themselves and family, lose touch with reality and sense of responsibility. This is merely my personaly experience and my personal reality. I do believe that it is a universal reality though. I believe that satan uses these same "deceiving realities" to keep people away from God and eventually destroy them.

Amessenjah, POD Warrior Forum 3 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1354

No, they just spouted some Athiest dogma, which has very little backing and were insulting. AKA, if you question myths, why don't you question your own? Again, I reiterate, what evidence is there that Atheism is correct or the truth? I would like to comment that for every time someone mentions the Spanish Inquisition, I will reply with Pol Pot, 2 million people, Stalin, millions of people, Mao Se-dong, millions of people.

Jiggles, POD Warrior Forum 10 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1355

They want to understand it [Christianity] before they except [sic] it. Don't try to understand it, just except it.

BurningSon, POD Warrior Forum 3 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1356

Look at what you just said. You belive He was killed 30 AD? Ok, look at this, the BC means before Christ and the AD means after death. So, apparently there had to be a Christ who died for us.

BurningSon, POD Warrior Forum 17 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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