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Quote# 1427

Hi folks, today I'm going to act as the devils advocate. Now, many people are aware God sends some people to hell. But why is that? Even worse, God uses some people and sends them to hell so He can achieve His objective. Lets take a look at a few examples. Lucifer - The devil, satan. This angel was made beautiful, yet God made Him evil on purpose so we could have free-will. Now this poor young fellow will burn in hell for all eternity through no fault of his own. That's unless he had free-will of course and decided to fight against God, but... I highly doubt it. Judas Iscariot - Jesus' friend and disciple. This young man hung himself and had his guts spilled out as punishment for doing Gods will. Most likely he is burning in hell for all eternity, again, through no fault of his own. The Jews - These people crucified Jesus and will most certainly burn in hell forever. Yet, if they had not done this then we'd have no chance of salvation. So God purposely blinded their eyes from the truth so He could achieve His objective. Why God? Why?

Livin'4Christ, POD Warrior Forum 6 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1426

Hitler was a evolutionist though. He thought we evolved and that some races were inferior. Im not a walking bibliography card so I cant always give you a source. Go look Up the founder of planned parenthood though. If you look into her history youll see she was a nazi scientist into that perfect race stuff. Please argue against these point reasonably.

asbesttes, POD Warrior Forum 14 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1425

But as for the severely retarded, isn't it obvious that a compassionate Creator has this problem covered as well? Of course that person will be in heaven! His affliction on earth is a perfect opportunity for believers to show patience and love, and God sees how we treat them. So that unfortunate person is actually a blessing to us AND he will be rewarded by God with a perfect mind and brand new body in heaven. Our God makes perfect sense in every situation. Just a side thought: Funny how the world loves to harp on how tragic a temporary earthly condition like retardation is {or terminal disease, serious accident, etc}, but it refuses to acknowledge the glorious eternal life God has prepared when this life is over. We can choose to have hope or choose to wallow in self pity. The bible says most will choose the self pity of disbelief. That blows me away, considering there is SO MUCH to look forward to. What a stupid waste of humanity.

BarbT, Rapture Ready 7 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1424

You people all try to quote occam's razor. of course, occam's razor, if applied realistcly (which I understand you cannot allow) eliminates your entire theory. Please, in PRECISE DETAIL, do not leave a single step out, describe to me what was before the big bang, what caused the Big Bang, how the particles spread, how they joined, how they became planets, how stars were formed, then solar systems and galaxies. Then how this molten planet became covered with water, then an atmosphere. Then describe the entire process that took non living matter with not information, organized it into information, foud a way to decode the information and became living. describe how this living orginism was then able to automatically reproduce. Then please add to that how it increased this information into a complex organism, then to a fish, then a amphibean, a land animal aprimate, then a man. Along the way please tell me each step on how the eye formed from nothing, hearing, understanding, imagination and emotions. I think thats enough for a start. But remember, YOU MUST INCLUDE EVERY STEP ALONG THE WAY. But before you do, remember, according to occam's razor, you have to make it simpler and shorter than "God spoke it and it was done". So, you got to beat 7 words.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 30 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1423

When is abortion safe? Never, someone always dies during abortion. Abortion has a 100% fatality rate. How is that being repressive of women? Saying that a woman cannot murder her child is being repressive? Why should the US saction murder?

deadbrain, Someplace Somewhere 12 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1422

Wives SUBMIT...... not OBEY is the key word.Big difference.

buckodude, POD Warrior Forum 7 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1421

Men were made in the image of God. Women were made in the image of man. It is a womans job to be submissive to her husband and a mans job to rule over his wife. However, both are to be treated equally.

Livin'4Christ, POD Warrior Forum 26 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1420

like I always say if libertarians would just quit smoking pot they might just remember to go and vote.

hayden, POD Warrior Forum 1 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1419

How is it that God is cruel. who is it that does wrong, us or him. Suppose you mum said dont eat the cookie from the cookie jar. Would you do it, probably. So you go and do it and get punished [by being tortured in hell for eternity].

hercules1, POD Warrior Forum 17 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1418

Going to mass, Y'all worship the Pope like a god, Having to keep your little necklaces on because you’re afraid if you die without them you won't be aloud into heaven, and haveing to say hail Maries every time you sin. All this I consider to be bondage.

nodmailoc, POD Warrior Forum 13 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1417

I have been studding Catholicism for only a short time and I can see the fallacies with it. Yet again you go to the "You need to be informed" argument. Seriously that is so passé.

nodmailoc, POD Warrior Forum 0 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1416

You don't see the logic [in an innocent man, Jesus, dying for the crimes of the guilty while they get off scot-free] because you don't know God or His perfect justice

kerri, Rapture Ready 16 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1415

But we don't have "freedom of speech," do we? Our children cannot pray in their schools. We cannot use God's name in our Pledge of Allegience. These were the freedoms that our founding fathers sought to preserve.

Chris4Christ, Rapture Ready 5 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1414

Does the theory of evolution solve all your problems and answer all your questions? When the doctors have given up and have no cure, can you turn to the theory of evolution for help? You can turn to God, I have seen people at deaths door recover, because God moved and healed them.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 4 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1413

... [intelligent design advocates] have been offering evidence for years, but religious presupposition (atheism) blinds the powers that be in the "scientific community" from reaching the correct conclusions about the empirical evidence.

Evolskeptic, CreationTalk 7 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1412

You are breathing aren't you?...You think you do that on your own?...God enables you to do this.

ChristDied4U!, Christian Forums 16 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1411

wow..so nothing in science is certain then...I was not aware of this.

Rising_Suns, Christian Forums 14 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1410

Just because microorganism's have been identified, their origins haven't, and who's to say that demons or works of demons cannot take the shape of microorganism's?

Badfish, Christian Forums 13 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1409

Yeah, [Buddhism is] really organized, considering Siddhartha was an athiest, but as Buddhism spread throughout China, Southeast Asia, and Japan it became a religion that had local gods, demons, spirits and the like. They even worship Buddha statues.

Zorobabel, Christian Forums 10 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1408

The young people who are indoctrinated with the make-believe theory of evolution, which is willfully expanded from the recorded scientific observations of natural selection, will believe in that theory as they believed in Santa Claus, even though there is no direct evidence to prove the theory. The corporate/science controls the belief in the theory by directing funding to favorable projects and complient researchers. They control the publishers and decide what will be written in text books and they thereby control the minds of the populace by controlling what they are allowed to learn. The ultimate aim is the same for controlling Santa Claus. And that aim is money and power. Christmas and corporate/science are two of the largest grossing cash cows that the manipulators possess. In both, money is not the only objective. A corollary to the money is control of society, and that may be as important to the greedy people as the money, for it leaves the mainstream population susceptible to other manipulations. The big problem with such societal manipulations is that it doesn't allow science to advance apace of it's collective human knowledge, but it retards it and, as it's main focus, has it investigating lines of inquiry that are predetermined to return scant knowledge.

John MacNeil, Christian Forums 0 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1407

There are no atheists in hell!

janh7, Rapture Ready 31 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1406

The RCC is really whoring itself to the muslims. What a power play. The richest religion of the world [Catholic Church] joining up with the largest religion of the world [Islam?!?]. And they both love Mary. My question is, Where does this leave the Jews?. JP2 is nothing more than the Pimp of Babylon and I got a feeling we won't be around to meet the next Pope.

Gordon, Rapture Ready 7 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1405

The Pope is courting Satan. Islam is nothing but a demonic force. Why would he kiss the Quran? Has he bothered to read it? It's a war manual, with orders to kill the Jews and christians and all that are of not Islam. It takes from the Bible and twists the words and the meanings and turns it to suit their adgenda. Very cunning! Does'nt it make perfect sense for satan to use God's words against him? Anyone who commits an evil act in the name of Christianity, is not following Christian doctrine. Those who commit evil acts in the name of allah, or Islam is following the doctrine of the Quran. As one can see, Islam still continues their violence today. It has never stopped, and will continue, their goal is to kill all those who dont believe in Islam. It is what allah commands.

Tricia_S, Rapture Ready 6 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1404

Islam does not recognize Jesus as God. While yes they claim him as a great man of God, they call him a liar by not recognizing His Deity because Jesus himself claimed to be God. Islam has no truth in it, therefore it is evil.

ChrisU, Rapture Ready 0 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 1403

Islam is a religion founded inthe spirit of anti-christ, by a false angel spewing forth lies and giving Mohammed the power to establish this mockery of true faith in the TRUE God of Abraham AND Isaac AND Jacob AND Peter AND PAUL and all the saints who gave their lives standing against this movement of the enemy.... While I believe stongly in the Ecumenical movement amongst christians...I will ALWAYS oppose any compromise with this spawn of Satan... Peace and Love!

Philip James, Rapture Ready 6 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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