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Quote# 5906

Who wishes to make such a simple blunder in elementary logic, as to say that we believe something to be true because it is in the Bible? Our answer to this is briefly that we prefer to reason in a circle to not reasoning at all. We hold it to be true that circular reasoning is the only reasoning that is possible to finite man. The method of implication as outlined above is circular reasoning. Or we may call it spiral reasoning. We must go round and round a thing to see more of its dimensions and to know more about it, in general, unless we are larger than that which we are investigating. Unless we are larger than God we cannot reason about him any other way, than by a transcendental or circular argument.

randy777, Theology Web 8 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5905

many espouse ' deism ' and ' evolution ' as long as their health , occupation , and mental faculties are within proper design peramaters .... many change their mind on their death bed .....

pmarquette, Christian Forums 11 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5904

But why would they [Norton Internet Security] label the Rapture Index page specifically as 'Intolerant'?... I have seen no intolerance there. Or anywhere else on Rapture Ready.

A.Rachel, Rapture Ready 13 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5903

What Qualities and Characteristics of God Do People Who Hate God Hate Most And Why?... If these people choose Satan instead of God does that mean they love Satan more than God or do they just hate God more than they hate Satan? I just can’t understand why anyone would rather be a drone for Satan instead of reaping great eternal rewards from God.

Stevangelist, Rapture Ready 8 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5902

The man is a closet-catholic at best. An agent of Satan at worst.

Angyl, Rapture Ready 4 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5901

If the Muslims are so confident in their Quran, then they should not be afraid for people to comment on things they may find wrong with the wording, but instead they kill them. Doesn't sound like confidence in the Quran to me. From the beginning the authors knew it could not stand up under scrutiny, so they killed anyone who dared question its authenticity.

Jesus Groupie, Rapture Ready 7 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5900

I referring more to the stubborn wannabe [Catholic] apologetics who when shown black on white, refuse to believe, and go on reguritating the lies theyve been programmed to believe in. And as far as comments about true believers in the catholic religion, I say Not possible. You cant claim Jesus as lord, and satan as well.

needhimforever, Rapture Ready 7 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5899

i still hope for my catholic freinds,, but as soon as you question their beliefs about mary , ect, their pride jumps up and walls them off. i dont think there is enough time to get through to them, the ones i know.

solookup, Rapture Ready 9 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5898

its worse than talking to an atheiset,, atheist's dont have 2000 years of heresy to debunk before one can even get to salvation by grace through faith.,,,, they have a pope and mary walll that i have never been able to get past... i have been discourged to the point of not even trying anymore with the ones i know personally.

solookup, Rapture Ready 2 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5897

... but in defense of needHimforever,,,,,, when was the last time anyone here TRIED to talk to a catholic about the second c omeing ? ,,,, or about mary worship, and her iimmaculate birth, on any theological issue,,,, everytime i have tried,,, i find out how totoally closed their minds are,,,so totally that they cannont even recogonze the churches COMPLETE APOSTOSY.

solookup, Rapture Ready 5 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5896

who cares what catholics think. When has anyone cared.With the fables they believe in, they are waste of believers time

needhimforever, Rapture Ready 10 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5895

If Jesus were the president of this country he would NOT pander to other religions in an effort to make them more comfortable, he would NOT suggest that there is more than one way, he would NOT APPLAUD, SUPPORT or BE 'PROUD OF' (the absurdity of it staggers the imagination) the promotion of other people going to HELL!!

Angyl, Rapture Ready 12 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5894

I was so shocked when I realized my own mother thought we (Muslims & us) worshipped the same God. I talked to her for some time about the differences and she was devastated because she'd befriended a Pakistani woman a work (who is Muslim). My mom just didn't know any better. I felt so sorry for her.

Blessedx4, Rapture Ready 18 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5893

Not one word was said [by the American Civil Liberties Union] when the California schools (read government) promoted the Islamic religion. NOt one word! Hypocrites and I still pray for the destruction of this worthless union. Of course Muslims is supported, while Christianity is attacked. they are a false prophet religion. Hello!!!!!!!!! They are God haters. They do nothing spectacular, just doing what any lawyer could do. But their desire to completely trash the morals and decency of this country is obvious. They hate you and me and all that we stand for. Their idea of a perfect America is a falied atheist system and the crushing of the spirit and life of anyone who will not bow down to their Godless lives. We have shown them for what they are. Godless haters of anything moral and right. If you can't see that, from all that we have shown, just since i have been here, then that is your problem. They attack and harrass and intimidate in the Mafia way anything that is good and decent or even remotely related to Christianity. They promote the raping of children, and the Rapers. The harrassment of little children and their beliefs and they would rather see this country in the mire of it's filth than have one mention of God. Their god is satan and he OWNS them. so what if they defended a HANDFUL of [Christian] cases (a small HANDFUL), they still hate you and me. They are no different than the Communists who killed those who would not bow down to their ways. they just can't kill us legally, yet. Their judgment is coming for their rejection of and forcing of any mention of God in this world into hiding. Hypocrites and child raper promoters. Their time is coming if they do not repent. They stand for everything sick, immoral and evil.

Elizabeth_S, Rapture Ready 10 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5892

To say the ACLU will help in your rights as a Christian is not true. The ACLU hates God and wants to completely erase God from anywhere. soon, they will have their America hating ways open to the public and their desire to destroy our way of life will be exposed. I pray for those in the 'AVLU, but I pray for the destruction of the evil of the ACLU organization.

Elizabeth_S, Rapture Ready 6 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5891

No they won't, they say little kindergartener's are horrible for praying over their food in a school cafetaeria and passing out bibles in school is forcing others to believe as we do. [Both examples of mistaken Religious Right propaganda, of course.] The ACLU is a god hating instituiton and it is intent on destroying any expression AT ALL of Jesus in the open. Satan OWNS the ACLU.

Elizabeth_S, Rapture Ready 2 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5890

If the AC is planning on killing in mass numbers (which I assume to be the case) he will need shock value and speed. Lethal injection takes too long and I seriously doubt there will be calls for leniancy (sp) on behalf of a Chirstian.

Beaker, Rapture Ready 2 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5889

I believe beheading will be the method of choice for several of the reasons already stated: - Cheap. With potentially MILLIONS if not billions of people to execute, that could add up to A LOT of bullets, or lethal chemicals, or what ever method. - Effective. They want people to be so terrified of the punishment that they will be willing to accept the mark/AC. - In the early stages of getting the people to accept this method, it could be said that this is the only humane method that leaves healthy organs for transplants...which are desperately needed. - Occult beliefs are that the only way to keep an 'undesirable' from returning in the afterlife is to remove the head from the body. So, they believe that by doing this they are eliminating us pesky christians for good. It wouldn't surprise me if it ends up being half-time entertainment.

Amity, Rapture Ready 5 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5888

With beheadings it's over real quickyour killed instantly when the blade comes down. This method will probably be used to save ammo. for the AC's war effort.

eaglex, Rapture Ready 12 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5887

When the AC [Antichrist] re-institutes beheadding - the guillotine makes the most sense, but it's not specified in scriptures that is what they will use. Only makes sense in that it's an assembly line execution method and you can murder hundreds in a day without breaking a sweat. It will be instituted as much for the horror value as for religious cleansing. How many will turn to Christ when they see their parent, their spouse, their sibling, their child, their friend loose their head in the executions?

mikitta, Rapture Ready 7 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5886

Revelation 20:4 Talks about beheading. The idea of modern day execution by guillotine fits in with scripture.

Walter, Rapture Ready 10 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5885

The point is that eventually lethal injections will no longer be used, but that people will be beheaded. I have no idea what will come in between, but things will change... Revelation 20:4 _And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus...

Charity4Ever, Rapture Ready 4 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5884

Paving the way for the guillotine/beheading?... In recent months, death penalty opponents and some defense attorneys have begun new protests of the country's most common execution method, saying the deadly drug combination used by most states to kill death row inmates may be causing, and masking, excruciating pain.

Charity4Ever, Rapture Ready 8 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5883

Twist the truth if you want. I may be twisting the truth myself but I don't care 'cause I am still gonna believe in what I say no matter what you say... If you had not bother to counter what I say about the contradictions in Evolution then I have nothing to say but secretly in my mind I am actually winning the debate. What a waste of time debating with people who are blindly rebutting me without defending their weak points...

Anonymous86, Urban Assault HQ 5 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5882

I don't know anything much about science, having learnt only Evolution so far. One of the reasons why I suddenly stop believing in Evolution is because something deep within my heart told me

Anonymous86, Urban Assault HQ 14 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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