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Quote# 6527

I don't get is - are you trying to say Christianity is a cult? Or founded on one?LOL !!! Cults occur when Satan realises, that no matter what he does, that people want to follow God, and don't want to knowingly follow him. He manipulates potential leaders, and sometimes the members don't realise that they are following Satan. Freemasonry for example...How can people be so stupid? Well, there has to be a kind of supernatural power to get people to pay attention... Often, Satan will make his pawns very persuasive, or often when these people see something happen they will believe that their human leaders really are of God. Simply more lies from Satan, he can make anything appear however he wants it to, especially if it means bringing people from God...Jesus could not be deemed evil. He also can't be deemed a fake, because I doubt people would have bothered following him if they didn't see sufficient evidence he really was the Son of God... It may all seem very made up.. but check out my demons thread for my reasons for believing that there is so much more out there than we can actually see.

AsburyJuke, Christian Forums 4 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6526

this is what u said right? OK first off about the beating children thing. God has rules. Some parents have rules. As long as its not child abuse ,it may be to discipline (if I spelled that word right?)them... What wrong with casting out demons? Demon possession is a very serious thing. The plucking out the eyes pleez tell me where in the Bible you got this from... in the Middle east if you steal sumthin (or the way they used to do it or sumthin I'm not sure) that watever hand you stole it with would have to be cut off or sumthin. Doing that might teach you not to steal again. i don't know If I exactly agree with it but I might be guessing if sumone got their hand cut off from stealing sumthin I'm guessing they probably wouldn't steal again.

GodsChild, HeLives.com Teen Forum 7 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6525

I'm guessing you might be referring back to Darwins theory about humans evolving from ape. Ok How could this be true? If it happened over a long period of time how could it not die or sumthin? Reasons or questions:1.Another thing why is their apes still around? 2.Why didn't all of them evolve? 3.Did me and you evolve from apes? No! 4.Why do sum woman have children if they are just waiting for more people to evolve? 5. If you were mid-man mid-ape what would happen to your eyes and other organs? 6.If you were evolving from ape what would you eat? 7.How would you survive? 8.If your were mid-man mid-ape how would you reproduce? 9.If you were evloving how would man learin language? 10. If apes had a certain lifespan and humans have a certain lifespan How long would it take before they died before completely evolving? 11. There are many different kinds of people today (Chinese,African American,Filipino,Laocian etc.) How did these skin colors and such come to be if we evolved? 12. How would we have different skin colors and eye colors and hair colors if we evolved? 13. Who would we evolve form apes? Why not elephants or some other animal? 14. How come humans aren't evolving still today? 15.Did apes all over evolve? In different countries?

GodsChild, HeLives.com Teen Forum 22 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6524

Why must creationism be excluded? It seems to be the most time-tested, logical theory of our origin that has ever existed.

stinkz, Internet Infidels 16 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6523

It is correct to say that there are living cells in an arm, but not correct to say that the arm is alive - there is a BIG difference. And an arm is much different than a fetus. For one, a fetus is alive and an arm isn't... You can kill a living fetus because it lives; you cannot kill an arm, because arm's aren't alive.

Courthead, BlizzForums 10 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6522

There are a few studies that come to mind. One had to do with high blood preassure. There was no preferance for Christians over other religions, but in general, they more someone attended church, the more they read their Bible and prayed, the lower their blood preasure was... But the results [of another study] showed that selfish people have more health problems and they die sooner than people who do what they can to help others.In general the studies have found that calling yourself a christian does not seem to make any difference. But doing things that would be considered christian, does seem to make a difference.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 6 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6521

Remember, when you judge me, your really only judging yourself.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 25 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6520

[Replying to 'So viruses and bacteria don't cause sickness?']Not if they can not find a host to cause sickness in. Now I have a question. Why do doctors and nurses seldom get sick, even though they are around sick people all day?

JohnR7, Christian Forums 14 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6519

Actually, that was one of the most annointed Bible studies that I have done sense a teaching I did at Bible college. I prayed for two or three hours before I put that together. If more people understood what Paul was saying in that passage, there would be a lot less sickess for doctors to have to deal with. They tell me that One Drop of the Divine Blood of Jesus is all that it would take to cure all of the sickness in this world.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 7 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6518

[Replying to 'So which diseases does sin cause?']That would be part two, and we would need to go back into the teaching of Moses. But one thing that would be covered by Moses, is any disease that could be found in Egypt at that time. Ex 15:26... 'If you diligently heed the voice of the Lord your God... I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians. For I am the Lord who heals you.' My sister told me about a book written by a medical doctor called something like: 'none of these diseases'. He talks about Moses and a Bible approach to staying healthy.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 3 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6517

No one is saying that people should not go to doctors or seek medical treatment. That is not the issue. It is sad that you do not understand the most simple and basic of christian teaching. I am amazed that I run into doctors and Phd's that do not even have a third grade level of understanding of the Bible.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 4 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6516

Take your atheism elsewhere, this is a christian website.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 4 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6515

It has to do with why I have a problem with doctors. The answer being, because they do not know or understand the true problem or cause of sickness and disease. Of course this is only a beginning, a start. There is a lot more to it than this. Truth sets people free. When you preach and teach the truth, you can expect to see miracles, signs, wonders, healing and deliverance.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 7 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6514

Sin & Sickness... There is a passage in the Bible, that ever sense I first read it, I have considered it to be a VERY important passage in terms of WHY people get sick. It can be found in 1 Corinthians 11:23-34... For this reason MANY are weak and sick among you, and MANY sleep... The reason this scripture caught my attention is the word MANY... Clearly we are told that many here refers to more than half the people. It refers to the majority of people and not the minority. Over the last 20 years, I have talked to quite a few pastors about this passage... In the most simple of terms, this passage means that we are to be delivered from Sin.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 4 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6513

I truly agree! People decide where they want to live, and if they decide they want to live in an over crowed city, that is there own fault.

Sparkle, Christian Forums 6 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6512

Overpopulation is a myth. Try driving from California to New York. What do you see? Mostly nothing.

billwald, Christian Forums 26 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6511

And I know what you mean. Once you have experienced something on the spiritual realm, you just can't deny the truth. It doesnt matter what anyone says about how things can be explained away or suppressed with chemical imbalance solutions and drugs; because the experience that each of us has as individuals cannot be denied. Keep seeking after God and you will find the answers.

Beauty4Ashes, Christian Forums 3 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6510

And I choose to be a sheep of God...thanks for the compliment

Courthead, BlizzForums 15 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6509

1. I am a Christian.2. Homosexuality is in conflict with my Christian beliefs.3. Homosexual adoption and marriage only spread homosexuality.Why would I want to spread homosexuality? And stop spewing this BS about religious ideas having no place in our laws. Where do you think American morals came from in the first place? Christian beliefs. There is no disputing the facts.

Courthead, BlizzForums 15 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6508

Where the ignorance here really here is in regards to those outside the Church understanding the process the Church goes through when looking at possible demonic activity . . This is one reason why only certain priests are allowed to do exorcisms. They have to be trained to be able to make sure they are really dealing with demonic activity. It is not something done in ignorance or blindly . ..

thereselittleflower, Christian Forums 3 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6507

I am sorry to hear you feel this way. But just because someone is having these types of experiences does not mean they have a neurological disorder. I am familiar with the types of epilepsy there are, and there are types that people are surprised to find out exist . . You don't know my medical background . . I am also somewhat familiar with demonic activity . . . This is why I suggested that the OP see a Priest who is an exorcist as they are trained to recognize the difference . .

thereselittleflower, Christian Forums 10 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6506

Do you remember how long you laid there like that? What you did while you laid there besides thinking about your day? Wher you able to move around without any problems? This is what I understood you to be saying [smiley] Do you need help finding a priest who can help you with this?

thereselittleflower, Christian Forums 0 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6505

thereselittleflower is absolutely right..i was fully awake and conscious of my surroundings...i remember everything i did and thought about right up to the point i got poked in the back...at no point was i paralysed. Physical touch and pain cant be hallucinated..no matter what you all try and say. I don't believe for a second it had anything to do with sleep paralysis..

DeeVee, Christian Forums 8 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6504

This is why going to a Catholic priest who is also an exorcist is a good choice. . they are well trained to distinguish between a psychological condition and a demonic or supernatural one . .

thereselittleflower, Christian Forums 9 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6503

The 'hole' in this theory (#! sleep paralysis) for DeeVee is that the last experience he related occured was while he was FULLY awake! No possibility of an experience of sleep paralysis there, or concurrent hallucinations . . No . . this is not simple 'sleep paralysis' . . the fact that some here don't believe in the supernatural also clouds the advice given . .

thereselittleflower, Christian Forums 0 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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