Quote# 6705

No, it is not irrelevant, given that according the scriptures, 'the wages of sin is death'. Therefore, God was meteing out justice on the Canaanites, Amelekites and Egyptians. Meteing out justice on evildoers is moral especially if you are the judge of the universe.

Ed, Internet Infidels 7 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6704

No, genocide is the killing of a group because of WHO they are, God only destroyed tribes because of what they had DONE. All the tribes around ancient Israel were semitic so it was plainly not genocide or racial in nature.

Ed, Internet Infidels 21 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6703

Fox news has done a much better job of telling the story in Iraq. Gee I wonder if that's why their ratings are through the roof. The media has been committing treason since vietnam, IMO. Shameful!!

hayden, POD Warrior Forum 5 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6702

What I don’t get is why so many Christians are not only blind to it but say we are chasing rainbows! Before you become a naysayer do a search on the inter net on each name in the above group [Skull and Bones, the Trilateral Commission, the UN, etc.] and see what you can find out. Oh, I forgot to mention one very important organization. The United States Federal Reserve Bank. You may think it is a govt entity but it is very private and they are pushing our economy further into an economic collapse, on purpose, with each passing day!

Rayday, Rapture Ready 1 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6701

I would actually like to point out one of the statements about [the Illuminati being mentioned in Tomb Raider games with] Lara Croft. One way to deny anything is going on is to throw some truth into a fictional story, so all of it gets tossed into the ashheap of a Hollywood plot. The Illuminati has been around for a lot longer than Lara Croft has. Secret societies have been around for ages; in fact, many people believe that the Pharisees and Sadducees were actually secret societies. This would explain some of the particularly scathing comments of the Lord to these people. They knew exactly who Jesus was, and still would not repent.

mattbert, Rapture Ready 6 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6700

Pamaris and Mattbert, You two are spot on...!!!! I think they have WAY more control over our daily lives than anyone realizes. Just a couple of examples, You have to have a license for everything these days. Money is control. My cell phone has a GPS tracker in it that I can leave on all the time or turn it off(yeah right)for emergency purposes only. Onstar in your car, Folks, if they can UNLOCK your car anywhere in the world, can they not LOCK it also? With or without you in it, or shut it off if you violate some bogus law until they can get to you?

Resident Kook, Rapture Ready 1 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6699

The conspiracy stuff used to bother me, not I find it more of a marker as to how fallen the world is, how deceived people are, and how close our redemption is.

mattbert, Rapture Ready 0 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6698

that human does not need to know why he is doing what he is compelled to do. He just does it. The unsaved have NO defense against satan's urging. There is NOTHING stopping a demon from possessing the unsaved. They are satan's puppets!

MrMannn, Rapture Ready 6 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6697

Satan commands anyone he wants to. The unsaved have no defense against him. He does not appear before them in a flash of fire and brimstone. All he needs to do is plant a thought in their heads.

MrMannn, Rapture Ready 1 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6696

I don't really consider masonic literature to be a solid source. They have too many reality problems for me to take them seriously.

MrMannn, Rapture Ready 7 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6695

They are Masons of the 33rd degree or 'higher' which there is no higher really. The illuminati have secret meetings and are often high ranking officials in government or business settings. Much more really isn't known, and if it is, not much is stated on message boards, online or in email format-- and those who were in, that speak out, often quit speaking.. soon.

antsinmypants, Rapture Ready 0 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6694

Basically they [the Illuminati] are a group of hypocrites that say one thing to appease the people while meeting secretly and manipulating world events in order to create a one world government and one world religion and to stage the antichrist. They are extremely powerful, wealthy people who participate in occult rituals and witchcraft in order to receive the power over the world that the devil will give them in return for their worship. The devil is the lord of this world and is actively using these people to stage his appearing... There is much false and misleading information about this, because the devil is the king of lies. Use discernment here...

pamaris, Rapture Ready 6 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6693

Just get hold of a good National Geographic Atlas of the World, which has a series of underwater maps in the back. Open it up and take a good look just to the west of Greenland, and you'll be able to see the exact outline, showing percisely where Greenland was one located on the Artic Ocean Floor! It's also very easy to see that at one point, not only the tip but the whole continent of Greenland rose up on end. When it started, it was in an eight o'clock position, and yet, rotating to the east as it came crashing down, it endid up in a four o'clock position as we yet find it today. The point is that all this happened - and I find it to be either evidence of that time when the mantle did significantly expand - or it must be something on the order of God's own little tiddley-wink.

Bruce D McKay, Elijah, Christian Forums 3 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6692

The existence of the Greenland Basin and the present location of Greenland proves (i.e., it is stark evidence of the fact) that the mantle of the earth has expanded very rapidly, so rapidly in fact - that it actually lifted the entire continent of Greenland up on one end! Go to any modern National Geographic Atlas showing the Greenland and the floor of the Atric Ocean, and you can see THESE PROOFS for yourself!

Bruce D McKay, Elijah, Christian Forums 5 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6691

And as soon as you also confirm the reality of the mantle being composed of compressed mater, largely in the form of highly compressed oxygen, hydrogen, silica, and carbon atoms, then everything about the ancient Ante-diluvian Earth (i.e., the earth before the flood) and the Deluge begins to rapidly fall into place, and it all makes great sense! Moreover, in so many words, what this all means is that when new matter is released . . . a whole new faces emerges on both the lifeless, geological world – and at the same time both the plant and the animal kingdoms change! Hence, it is not evolution that changes the species! In other words, it is the release of a great volume of new matter from within the mantle that changes the species – and it causes both a NEW plant kingdom along with NEW animal kingdom to emerge!

Bruce D McKay, Elijah, Christian Forums 1 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6690

Anyone who truly wishes to see what transpires at the end of this age has only to read the second half of the Wisdom of Solomon<font color="#FF0000">*</font>. Such a time brings a fire or the release of energy on all things in the form of 'unusual rains and hailstorms, and relentless showers.' There is also an accompanying shift in molecular forces, which can be gathered from the fact that water, which normally 'quenches every thing,' causes fire to have an even greater effect. (Wis 16:17) It is evident that the Oxygen and Hydrogen atoms become disassociated to some degree. 'It blazed up in the midst of the water, with more than fiery power,' (Wis 16:19) and 'snow and ice endured fire without melting.' (Wis 16:22) What crops the fire could not destroy 'melted away when it was simply warmed by a fleeting sunbeam.'(Wis 16:27) What there is also to consider is that this incredible change in molecular forces, also carries all the way through the entire electromagnetic spectrum! For, as the scriptures say, they were 'deprived of light and imprisoned in darkness.'(Wis 18;4)

[<font color="#FF0000">*</font> The Wisdom of Solomon, including these bastardized allegorical verses from ch. 16 and up, can be read at <a href="http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/apo/wis.htm">Sacred-Texts.com</a>.]

rudenski, Christian Forums 1 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6689

'All the future events will be sealed in a book for them,' according to Isaiah 29. I think this is speaking of what we commonly look at as 'The Apocrypha,' and so THERE ARE MANY who DO NOT (YET) SEE how it's removal is what enabled the evoltionists to put up their whole scheme of a vast geological time frame.

Bruce D McKay, Elijah, Christian Forums 1 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6688

Why Creationists were bored from Evolutionists? Hi you. It is right that we, Creationists don’t want to spend our time For explaining Creationism to you. And I understand other Creationists. There are some reasons for it. 1) You don’t care about any arguments when given. Arguments and facts are meaning nothing for you. No matter/ for you. And truth in general. 2) Your ignorance bored us. 3) What is significant for you-it is your opinion. 4) There are books about it (Creationism), you can read they yourself. (Creationism and Time). 5) Truth doesn’t need to be propagated so much as lie needs to be propagated. Truth has his big price no matter that it was believed/accepted or not. But the price of the lie depends from the number of fooled persons. So at first if you are fooled it is your problem not our. 6) We gave you some arguments already. But you don’t accept them. It is already not question of arguments but question of philosophy And mental healthy……. When you can’t believe to a normal sense and your eyes, then no one can help you. You can suspect to all what you see, but is not scientific problem it is other problem. 7) Evolutionism it is not science, it is hypothesis about this- If we would accept that God not created the world, then how the world could begin to had been? So it is simply imagination. You can also imagine so, if you were not born from your mother, then how you can be created in 10 milliard years from the mud by Evolution? Scientists counted probability of life by Evolution; it is equal 0,0000000000000000000000…………. and so on. Certainly this argument also means nothing for Evolutionists as all other scientific facts. 8) But instead of Evolutionism the Creationism is real science backed with Lot of scientific facts. You want us to quote all they here?? (read books for it). We were bored by reading and seeing books and movies about Evolutionism, learning/study that nonsense in Schools…. Really we have not a time. And why we must to continue when you did not accept some arguments already? Truly we don’t care about you so much, because it is your problem. 9) Evolutionism was born from Atheism. And what is Atheism? In deep their heart Atheist thinks so-If God don’t live and work in my life (It is partly true (semi truth)) I would declare (with hysteria) and believe that there is not God. ((If God don’t work in my life it means that there is not God-this is another lie, which lives in hearts in many persons and far away from the sense)). He is offended from the God (as he think). In this way he does revenge to God. So it is hysteria against God. Evolutionism is continuation of the same hysteria. This is one of main reasons why Evolutionists don’t accept any scientific fact or any argument. Because it is not only question of arguments but question of hysteria. And Evolutionism not backed by scientific facts but hysteria and lie. So it is another reason why we-Creationists don’t want to spend much of our time uselessly on Evolutionists. 10) Only one fact for example. Do you know that scientific research showed that age of earth might be only about from 3000 year to 3000000 year when was counted by various (about 50-150) methods. Most often of them is about 10000 years. Do you know this?? But when you don’t know this simple thing how you can know about other facts? So I hope that it is clear for you now why Creationists don’t want to continue to argue with you. Be well. Orange in Christ

orange, Christian Forums 22 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6687

You dont know many things. You, Evolutionists are very very away from truths.. I saw it from your answers. All your answers come from that that you dont know many things. You dont know that for you are deceived. You dont know many many things. You are very like to be under propaganda. Second why you here argue about Creationism, it is already proved long ago. Question not about Creationism or Evolution, there are many topics here about that. Question about other thing, that is, that there are many organizations in worldwide who struggle against Creationism to be taught in Schools in this way they struggle against our human rights. And so humankind have not a right to learn Creationism. They are very like criminals.

orange, Christian Forums 9 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6686

Evolution is a big mafia in worldwide. Am I right?? It is not a science, but mafia, ruling by Devil. I think that there is big mafia in the world which protects evolution. Dont you see this...?? Creationism, specifically Young Earth Creationism is a model, that God created everything as is, over a period of 6 days. It explains all the the species, it explains the variety of life, it explains the geological record, it explains the phylogenetic trees, explains the cosmic microwave background, it explains the light from distant stars, it explains a whole bunch of these things. True Science can model them all. All right. I say honestly that I believe the Bible is True because all this things you said. In any way I can explain all this for my self. And there is not any difficulty do explain all this by Creation point of view . But Evolution cant explain many things. You know this more well than me. For it is difficult to write I will write three explanation in short.. 1)Science explains very simple that the geological record is result of world flood. 2) Similarities between the species is because One God, one Engineer created all this. 3) Real science counting by various subjects shows that age of our earth may be from 4000 year ald to 3000000 year at most. And so I say I wrote mafia because these men who dont let to teach Creationism in schools with evolutionism are big criminals at God look and at human rights point of view .

orange, Christian Forums 19 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6685

Evolution have not any facts and any arguments, it have only lies.Read books please. All know this, But I am not about that, it already proved.It have proved long ago alraedy. I am about other thing, that there is big mafia with name of science, which work against the simple,clear truths by ruling with Devil in worldwide.And Creation already is proved that it is very very right by science, by science point of view . And this mafia dont let that in Schools to teach Creation having not a right to do so. If Creation would have been taught with Evolution it will clearly show all foolishness and all nonsens of Evolution, what is all.

orange, Christian Forums 4 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6684

I know this sound stupid but how can you live in Israel and not believe in Jesus?

twosid, Christian Forums 33 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6683

[Replying to "I am offended by the word 'fagatized'"]GOD is offended by sin. I suggest you repent of your heathen ways before GOD & ask JESUS to forgive you and cleanse you.

BrotherRobert, Internet Infidels 12 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6682

GOD warns us clearly in the Bible not to engage in sodomy, nor adultery, nor promiscuity, nor destroy our bodies as with intravenous street drugs... These are the ways people get HIV/AIDS - almost entirely via sin. Why do you think we are given The Ten Commandments, etc in the Bible??? For all you lost heathens here: LINK to The Ten Commandments!

BrotherRobert, Internet Infidels 1 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6681

It is the responsibility of real men to care for, shelter and direct their women. Women just don't have the capacity to do what's right without the guidance of men. Too many of America's men today are fagatized, so they don't stand up like the are suppose to so as to lead society!

BrotherRobert, Internet Infidels 26 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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