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Quote# 7230

Have you ever seen some of the photos from the Hubble Telescope of the vast colorful photos of the milky way? I seroiusly believe that Heaven is a planet with living beings. More exists in these photos than one might anticipate. In fact, there are literally thousands of planets with life on them(these are the so called Aliens), except they are not touched by sin. Planet earth was God's crowning creation of all the other planets in the universe, and since the Devil wanted to get back and God in any way he could, he chose this planet to tempt in which we fell.

Lysimachus, Someplace Somewhere 11 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7229

Troylus, I've studied for myself, not influenced by anyone. I believe what I believe because it is the only way that adds up. There are literally thousands of Phd creation scientists who choose to believe in creation simply for the fact that evolution does not add up. Evolution has been proven wrong by creation scientists through much more material that you'd suppose--material you'd have to be willing to read--and not just articles, but books--many books.

Lysimachus, Someplace Somewhere 7 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7228

It all boils down to one thing. People are trying in vain to explain the origins of the universe and the world without God, and it is just impossible. What that boils even further to is what's really sad. Not wanting any divine superior to rule over us or tell us what to do--to just do as you please without any restrictions of right or wrong. Whether this is admitted or not, that is the real 'crux' reason for why people's minds migrate toward the theories of the 'Big Bang' and Darwinism. No matter how hard one may try and rationalize that it is pure 'honesty', they will never convince me that the root of the matter is to be 'free' from worshipping an all intelligent master designer.

Lysimachus, Someplace Somewhere 4 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7227

Finding new ways to solidify an argument is not necessarily a good thing. It only shows more so that this is what they want it to be. Evolutionists may believe that man evolved, but their theories are continually evolving as well. You may want to consider that a requirement to increase in knowledge if you want, but I do not if it is evident that there are way too many conflicting ideas. Evolutionist theories conflict with one another very often.

Lysimachus, Someplace Somewhere 7 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7226

Also, I find it rather amusing that you can actually call these various discoveries 'lies' (such as Ron Wyatt planting the chariot wheels), when I could just as easily accuse evolutionists of lying to the public by planting bones in various places to suit their preconceived ideas and theories of how they 'evolved'. What if they are the ones lying instead?

Lysimachus, Someplace Somewhere 3 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7225

Watch the [Ron Wyatt] videos Crosis, and maybe you'll see what I mean. I have a hard time believing that deep down inside you think these are hoaxes. Those links I gave you talk about a lot of convincing stuff, stuff that evolutionists have been at a loss for giving good explanations for.

Lysimachus, Someplace Somewhere 1 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7224

You state that all these 'discoveries' are 'hoaxes'. And I say they arn't hoaxes. I could just as easily accuse TalkOrigins of being a hoax... I have a friend named Andrew who is part of the Ron Wyatt team. We both have a lot in common. He was at these sites himself, and he is convinced without a shadow of doubt that these ARE FOR REAL!... None of what you see in those sites are a hoax. I have connections with this team, and I know they are not liars!... You need to investigate that site throughly...reading the WHOLE story of Ron Wyatt's discovery of Noah's Ark from start to finish. Noah's Ark is not on Mount Ararat, it is in the MOUNTAINS (plural) of Ararat, and it is impaled on a rock just like the Ancient Civilization clues.

Lysimachus, Someplace Somewhere 4 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7223

How can you be a Celtic Witch if you're a guy? Witches are chicks... [And] There are many evidences for God. The sun rising everyday. You take that for granted, as if it just 'will happen.' But it too, is under the control of divine influence. So you see, it is not blind acceptance of unsupported claims and truth. We have the proof to back it up --- it is your choice whether you want to believe it or not.

Riddick, Christian Forums 15 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7222

My point was not that you were incapable of earthly love, but that you were incapable of perfect love, which is God's province alone.

Suzannah, Christian Forums 6 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7221

Perfect love is outside the bounds of an atheist understanding. Ipropose that it is entirely possible for other deists to understand it, even if they are not 'Christians'. I simply propose that Love, in its perfect form, is ouside the ken of atheists because they do not have it themselves.

Suzannah, Christian Forums 10 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7220

That is exactly where you are wrong. He is nothing like you. I know because I happen to know him well. The best you can offer is a cheap imitiation because you do not know what Love truly is.

Suzannah, Christian Forums 6 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7219

[To a deconvert]Umut, Can any of these atheists offer you Love?

Suzannah, Christian Forums 26 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7218

The maint thrust of this thread is the following question: Why can't you get on your knees and pray for mercy? I contend that it is because you are a slave to death. My evidence is that you don't want to live forever.My evidence is that you won't believe in anything that says you can.My evidence is that you think life is bad, and can't wait for it to end. And my final evidence is... because you simply refuse to get on your knees and pray for mercy. You can't. And that is because your freedom is chained. You are a slave until you ask to be released. But you won't ask. Why?

eclipsoul, Christian Forums 10 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7217

How would it feel to be an Ancient Greek, expect to go to Elysium and hang out with Apollo, and end up with some foreign god (Jehovah)? Granted, hell wouldn't be what they expect either, but hey, what can a deity do?

Jedi_Templar, BlizzForums 20 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7216

that [forum bug] only happens to non-Christians. The board you are talking about is apparently equipped with sodomite detectors to keep homosexuals in the out-group where they belongs. Try converting to Christianity and then see if you still have the server problem on that board!

saint calm, VoyForums 3 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7215

Well, it's pretty apparent that there is a God. If you don't admit it, you're just trying to fool yourself. You're not fooling God. The history of mankind has demonstrated decade after decade, millenium after millenium that they know that there is a God. They have developed multiple religions in trying to appease this God, because they know that they just don't measure up to his intellect, his holiness and/or his ultimate decision as to where they will spend their eternity... Plus, one thing I have noticed is that even unbelievers use Jesus Christ when they curse. Why don't they curse the Wizard of Oz? or Allah? or Buddha? I find this very interesting. It's as if deep down they really know what's going on.

johnnymk, Got | Apex? Forums 12 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7214

Ppl all came from ONE place and spoke ONE language then spread out(ever heard of mitochondria Eve?)- Adam and Eve, Tower of Babel. Animals give birth according to their ow kind. If this is a lie - Why does all the evidence support it? Dogs give birth to Dogs, Cats give birth to Cats. what was special about these 'ancient' animals that they could do something today's animals cannot?

skynes, Panheads.org Boards 6 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7213

evolution is just a theory that some people made up over time. i could make up a far fetched theory right now in my head and it WILL have just as much of a chanve being right as any other theory... for the reason above i dont think god used evolution because there are a billion theories out there and it is VERY unlikely that evolution was the one god used just because man thought it up.

Nedarbi, Panheads.org Boards 7 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7212

Plate Tectonics SUPPORTS my point, doesnt counter it. If the mountains were much flatter and lower(which I believe they were) then the possibility of a world-wide flood increases exponentially. Raise the sea beds, lower the mountains. You got enough water for a world-wide flood. Which by the way would also rip apart any evidence of billions of years.

skynes, Panheads.org Boards 0 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7211

Many ppl use the words about Creation and Evolution differently. This is how I use them. evolution - I take this to mean the atheistic humanistic materialistic religion. That life came out of nothing on its own and evolved over billions of years with no supernatural help to create everything on this earth.

skynes, Panheads.org Boards 13 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7210

i realize that but honestly. the evolution theory says that the earth was formed by two astriods colliding and forming the earth. now thats stupid. sure maybe the lord did use evolution. i accept that but alot of theories taht go along with evolution are very idiotic.

Nedarbi, Panheads.org Boards 19 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7209

Excactly. thats what i hate about scientists and their stupid evolution theory. ooh yes evolution is positively right and christianity is wrong because we said so and we have absolutely no evidence to back it up. thats what it's like. just because they are big scientitst, people believe them and refuse to think for themselves on the complicated stuff. on stuff like evolution all scientists have are theories.

Nedarbi, Panheads.org Boards 15 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7208

evolution and its big bang theory has a lot of holes in it , one thing y have the monkeys stop evolving? and they found out that the so called missing link 'Lucy' was a fake.

jesuslover, Panheads.org Boards 13 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7207

yah sometimes scientist come up with this lame evidence. i personally am shocked that people actually believe in evolution. think for a second guys. think of all the evidence supporting evolution that scientist have said either through tv or newspapaers or whatever. now after you have all of it in your heads think about how FAR FETCHED and IMPOSSIBLE it all sounds and IS. i think that when people believe in evolution it is just themselves denigning god and trying to escape him. the simple conclusion that i can see is that evolution is just to far fetched of a theory for any one to truly believe

Nedarbi, Panheads.org Boards 7 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 7206

It makes sense- We had this guy in our school last year talking about creation/evolution and apparently most dinosaurs were vegetarians, not the man-eating monsters they're made out to be! Dinos and humans could very well have co-inhabitaed the earth... Another thing to say is that saying to someone who believes in evolution that you don't believe it because the Bible says so, while being very true, simply will make you look as closed-minded as them. There are soooo many things which logically don't add up in the theory of evolution that it would be muchmore effective to quote them! For example, steam from volcanoes condensing to cover 70% of the earth's surface....?

bekah, Panheads.org Boards 10 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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