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Quote# 8151

The problem is never a lack of proof about God's existence, the problem is that men love their sin and can't enjoy it if they acknowledge God since he exposes them and their sin and demands judgment for such lawlessness. So they deliberately "suppress" or "hold down" the truth of God's existence to justify their sinful behaviour and ease their conscience.

TEITZY, Bibleforums.org 13 Comments [10/19/2005 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 8154

A new organization, Defending Freedom Of Religion, Inc., (DFOR) has been launched with some very ambitious goals. DFOR hopes to stop judges from removing Ten Commandments plaques from courthouses, to get prayer back into public schools, and much more.

DFOR's primary goal is to get Atheism recognized as a religion, and to get NOTHING recognized as its symbol.

When judges remove Ten Commandments plaques, they think they are removing something, leaving nothing. But if DFOR gets its way they will realize that leaving nothing is actually leaving something else. Removing a plaque is removing a traditional religious symbol and replacing it with Atheism's religious symbol.

"The separation of church and state is an impossible ideal," says Ken Whitaker, founder of DFOR. "If you remove all religious symbols, and replace them all with Atheism's symbol, you are establishing Atheism as our official state religion."

So what's the answer? We must allow ALL religious symbols! Let's not "prohibit the free exercise thereof" of ANY religion! Picture it: Let's place a traditional Nativity scene on the courthouse steps, and a menorah, and other symbols from other religions, and let's reserve a big empty spot for the Atheists. The Atheists can look at their empty spot and know that their symbol is there for all to see. But they can't force our spot to be empty.
This changes everything:

Keeping some old Ten Commandments plaques because of their historic significance is not good enough. We want to keep ALL plaques BECAUSE they are religious! In fact, we can replace the plaques that have been removed, and even erect new ones!

DFOR, Christian Communication Network 26 Comments [10/19/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8143

I said the Left hides their agenda, I didn't say they do it well.

It's an open secret that the Left wants to exalt homosexuality, denigrate the nuclear family and fathers in particular, dismantle the military, nationalize healthcare, reduce our property rights to serfdom (the progressive income tax and the Kelo S. Ct. decision), raise taxes, nationalize the oil industry, criminalize tobacco and red meat, legalize prostitution and pedophilia, outlaw christianity and capitalism

Joisey, TrekBBS 18 Comments [10/18/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8144

no use wasting your breath .... Evo's just can't fathom that man and dinos were around in the same time because their ENTIRE thinking would be proven wrong

dPrasse, Free Conservatives 15 Comments [10/18/2005 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 8145

MSc/PhD-level, who were brainwashed in Darwinism, now see so much evidence, from micro-biology to astronomy, of Intelligent Design, that they now reject atheism & worship the Almighty Creator

MrVersatile48, 123 Christian Forums 9 Comments [10/18/2005 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 1

Quote# 8146

If humans such as yourself had written the bible, then they would have thought that everyone would love Christ, just as you have. But humans did not write the bible which is why the bible prophecies the opposite prophecies that humans would come up with which have also come true. This is another proof that only an infallible entity like the Holy Spirit could have written the bible.

Carico, Atheist Network 11 Comments [10/18/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8147

When mary and Joseph went to bethlehem they had to fill in what we now call the electorial register....when Jesus went to court there are written transcripts.

how much more proof would you like?

LindaJ, Bibleforums.org 15 Comments [10/18/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8148

The Chinese capsule has landed with parachutes. Why haven't they filmed its landing on the hard ground?
Because no landing has happened.
Chinese astrobuffoons, like Aldrin and Armstrong, have simulated re-entry with that orrible capsule but they have never gone to space.
If NASA buffoons have already been on the moon, why do they want to go there again?
They should send men to Mars.
The problem is always the same: they don't know how to land on Mars without smashing against the ground and how to re-enter in our atmosphere without becoming roast chikens.

breakballs, Skeptic Friends Network 15 Comments [10/18/2005 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 8125

[Commenting on the plot of a Law and Order episode in which a car bomb kills the husband of an incapacitated woman shortly before the victim planned to disconnect her feeding tube.]

No surprise here. Which show was that, The Practice, that had the mother sue the city because her son got a head injury playing soccer? That was the epitome of liberalism, when the writers of the script give the mother the win in the case, because the evil city let children play soccer. TV networks like to jam their opinions into their crappy drama TV shows, now that they have lost the news monopoly.

At the same time, I sheepishly admit that I probably would smirk a little if Michael Schaivo and that damned Lawyer were blown to the depths of hades by a car bomb.

Avatar, Newsbusters.org 7 Comments [10/17/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8126

...I saw this episode - no one blew up in the Schaivo case of course - much to the MSM's dismay - so they made a "reality" it on TV (the only way they can ever get their way anymore). Of course the evil bomber turned out to be (suprise!) an evil pro-life Christian. MJB will be back here later promoting "how everyone knows" that all pro-lifers are really avid pipe bombers hell-bent on blowing up all ("truly decent") pro-choicers...

The bigger implication of the episode was that a pro-life clergyman cleverly orchestrated the bombing with diabolical mind-manipulation methods in order to gain media exposure...when is the last time we saw a positive pro-life character or conservative Christian on a major network televison program? The answer of course is never...they are all evil or mind-numbed robots in MSM la-la land...

The main ploy here here is to make the pro-lifers look like the killers - take the focus off of the REAL pro-choice killers. This is a common lib tactic I've noticed now as we also saw in New Orleans where racist libs tried to paint conservatives as the racists...

As I watch these programs week after week I increasingly wonder about these writers...their anti-Christian propaganda and agenda is now so transparent. They are so hate-filled, guilt-ridden, and bitter about their lives. They are such fear-mongers, such bigots...what truly pathetic lives they live...

Truthmonger, Newsbusters.org 13 Comments [10/17/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8132

['Secondly, a "virgin birth" is a terrible sign from God. Almost no one will be in a position to verify or witness it!']

My argument is clearly true. I will take the word of God over the word of someone who has some serious issues with Christianity any day.

bibleberean, 123 Christian Forums 10 Comments [10/17/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8133

While I was working a gal at work must have been bothered by a story she saw on the Internet relating to the gay issue and wanted my opinion. Here’s a how the conversation went.

She: I don’t see anything wrong with the gay lifestyle.
Me: Then why do so many gays die if their is nothing wrong with it.
She: It’s not just gays. It’s all of us.
Me: Agreed. We are all sinners. A man and woman that only have had sex with each other will not get aids.
She: Well then that includes you too.
Me:Yes it does. We are all sinners. God loves sinners but hates the sin.
She: I don’t have a problem with gays as long as they are happy.
Me: They are not happy. I have debated feminists on the Internet and they are not happy.
She: How do you know they are not happy. Their lifestyle does not bother me.
Me: Even if they die or help ruin society.
She: There is still nothing wrong with it.
Me: I don’t agree with that at all with how many people that are dying from aids. What website do you get your information from and I will give my information.
She: You are not going to change my mind.
Me: Even if you can be proven wrong.
She: I believe what I believe.
Me: Not if you can’t come up with the websites to support your side.

Stevangelist, Rapture Ready 48 Comments [10/17/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8134

[Bizarre explanation for how Christianity and evolution cannot coexist]

Light is energy bound up in a circle. That is the true importance of Pi. (Light is also the flaming sword which turns every way)
Life is energy bound up as a double logrithmic spiral. That is the true importance of Phi, and the heart - my avatar.
They are the same energy, treated in two different ways.

First Phi, to create Life. Square root five plus one, divided by two.
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

And God said, Let there be light:
Then Pi to form the energy of Life to provide a particle nature, Substance, for that Life.
A soul is born, and Light IS.
...and there was Light.

Only one, the Son.

Duane Morse, Bibleforums.org 29 Comments [10/17/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8135

How would a single cell organism have a spirit or name animals or realize it was naked?

watcher22, Bibleforums.org 23 Comments [10/17/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8136

Anyone happen to watch this week's episode of "West Wing?

The Democratic candidate (played by Jimmy Smits from LA LAW) made a statement that he believed in God and that God was intellegent. Then...at a school meeting he went on say how Intellegent Design was "theology" and not science, and that it shouldn't be taught in shcools; Separation of Church and State, blah blah blah....and all his advisors applauded him for such a 'bold stand'. I just about kicked in the TV

I wonder how uch money all the ACLU lobbiest paid for that commercial?

PHIL121, 123 Christian Forums 10 Comments [10/17/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8137

Darwin's theory while interesting, is way off and is in fact missing many links includeing transitional fossils. Scientists are tired of sitting by the swamp waiting for a single cell to emerge from mud that will recreate all life as we know it. It's just not gonna happen period! When i grow some wing's, i'll fly over your house and we can chat about this in person!

NOTW, 123 Christian Forums 8 Comments [10/17/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8139

[Regarding border-crossing immigrants that die trying to get into the country]

I look at it this way, that's just how many fewer that we have to educate, medicate, incarcerate and accommodate. Plus whatever progeny they have.

Too bad it's not THOUSANDS. The numbers should be so high that it discourages the crossers.

Kathy29, Free Conservatives 17 Comments [10/17/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8140

Think rationally and I'll teach you why Creation is our origin rather then evolution!

Richard Pietrusinski, EvC Forum 13 Comments [10/17/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8120

I wont donate my organs unless theres a really really special reason.

Im not anymore religious then the next guy, but theres a take on this from the quran. What it says basically is Allah/God owns you, ur his slave. Your body is a lease, you dont own it, it doesnt belong to you. Its just something to connect your soul from the spiritual world to the physical world. As with everything else, if somebody lends you something, you dont F it up then give it back.

I wouldnt expect anybody to donate for me either. I think id rather die.

haunted, Naruto Forums 12 Comments [10/16/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8121

Thats like saying necrophilia is ok. Ur saying that once somebody is dead their body is free game, because you dont believe you need your body after death. You are trying to establish your beliefs as the standard, but then saying our beliefs cause suffering.

At least im not so selfish to have someone trade their salvation so i can live some more years.

haunted, Naruto Forums 11 Comments [10/16/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8123

and what is a byproduct of that lifestyle is the overwhelming sympathy gays have been given from the left to the point that it has become so bad that straight men are not supposed to show any forms of strong emotion or else if they do, they are looked upon as very tempermental or out of kilter. emotion is one thing, rage is another. That basketball coach that always flips his lid is a complete fool and an idiot in need of help. It has carried over to other area's of life. They want to feminize men and boys today.

Dogheaven, Rapture Ready 8 Comments [10/16/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8124

['I think you are locked in a very simplistic view there girl..']

Being an American is a very simple life. There is good and evil, right and wrong, Freedom (which we live under) and anything else (which deluded fools, evil people and the oppressed live under).

We leave it up to the Europeans to ignore the truth, turn their backs on reality and complicate things so fucking much that we have to go over and save them from themselves and gain Freedom for them one more time. Which they promtly turn around and sell to the nearest dictator for a loaf of bread and a pat on the head.

Logan, Paranormal.com 32 Comments [10/16/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8117

Based on their worship of the doctrine of 'separation of church and state', secularists and skeptics are constitutionally obligated to do the OPPOSITE of what Jesus would do.

iowan15, Apologetics.org 20 Comments [10/15/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8115

A poker game has hands. A watch has hands. A person has hands. Therefore all must share a common ancestor, right? That's inductive reasoning.

brilliantLiberal, Free Conservatives 40 Comments [10/13/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8116

A couple people said that Jack Chick used scare tactics to get people to come to the Lord. Sure he does. Every Christian should.

dabilljon, Bibleforums.org 23 Comments [10/13/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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