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Quote# 11617

We have two options--one scientific and one religious--that equally explain the observation of a designed universe. The so-called scientific argument is sustained simply by a bald assertion that nature did it and not by evidence that God could not have done it. However, the design claim that I am making can be further substantiated by other evidence for the existence of God. When push comes to shove, if you are rational, it is more reasonable for you to adopt the conscious design explanation--the God claim. Most people are not going to do that because it is not scientific.

Gregory Koukl, Stand To Reason 18 Comments [5/12/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 11616

Now this is the typical Atheist response. If you are not Gay then you are memtally ill and should be killed.

Keith Rex, TheologyWeb 37 Comments [5/12/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 11615

what's so funny, and I've said it before, you atheists are just as bad as overbearing religious people, only you're "non-religious". If you don't believe in God, then GREAT! Shut up and keep it to yourself. No one likes to be preached to, no matter what it is you're preaching. Get a fuckin' clue, you fuckin' hypocrites.

[She said, preaching to people on myspace.]

i never said i haven't preached, do you need to go back to HS and take a reading comprehension course? there can't be anyone that enjoys being preached to, even if they preach, but if atheists are as perfect, and in the right which is what their point always seems to be, then they'd be perfect and not act in the same respect as some "ignorant" preacherman, which they so detest.

mi nombre es tara, Myspace 26 Comments [5/12/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 11612

Which way is simpler, to use the Bible as the foundation of truth, and notice that the universe fits what it says, or invent a plethora of undetectable, mathematical things like "empty space stretches the light passing though it" to protect our arche [foundational assumption about the nature of matter] that matter (atoms) cannot change-together - as a relationship?

ptolemy, EvC Forum 32 Comments [5/12/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Talisman
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Quote# 11606

Most liberals are amoral. Truth and reality mean nothing to them. What matters to them are their core values: the killing of babies, hatred of capitalism, hatred of Christianity, hatred of America, sympathy toward murderers and terrorists, elitism, hatred of the wealthy, the enslavement of the poor in exchange for the advancement of their own political power, the indoctrination of our youth into moral relativism and the irrelevance of humanity on the planet, the embracing of deviance, and the perpetuation of ignorance. If you see a liberal, chances are you are looking at an idiot.

Nutrider99, Free Conservatives 37 Comments [5/12/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 11605

If we asked a doctor what he thought about me drugging and raping baloney_detector [another poster] he would surely say in his clinical judgement no medical harm was done.

I am saying that we SHOULD provide pain relief as a matter of course to foetuses but this will not eliminate the moral issue.

keypointist, Yahoo Messageboards 20 Comments [5/12/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 11604

I heard an interesting analogy once...

Let's say you are in a movie theater watching a movie with a few hundred people and an armed felon stands up threatening to kill everyone in the theater. Before he begins the executions, a father walks up to the felon with his only son and makes a deal. He asks the felon to take and kill his only son in place of all the people in the theater. The felon agrees. Many grateful people rush toward the door of freedom. However, a few of the people in the theater come forward to tell the father that his deal is unfair. They would like him to provide another way of getting out of the theater alive.

That's it. I found it helpful when discussing the fairness of salvation.

G-d Seeker, Rapture Ready 43 Comments [5/12/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Alejandro
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Quote# 11603

Satan chose the children of Ishmael for one of his masterpiece counterfeit religions because Ishmael's descendants have been jealous and have coveted God's covenant relationship with the Jews, the children of Isaac and Jacob, since the beginning of that everlasting covenant.
Sadly, because their hearts were filled with envy, rather than accepting the many blessings God has bestowed on them as well, the children of Ishmael were an easy target for deceiving spirits — hence their following the path of the false moon god allah to this day, claiming he is the same as YHWH. He is not the same, and God will not be mocked!

JCO, Rapture Ready 17 Comments [5/12/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 11601

I JUST WANT TO SCREAM AT THE TOP OF MY LONGS! THE VEIL BETWEEN THE SPIRIT WORLD AND OURS IS GETTING THINNER AND THINNER, YOU ARE SEEING DEMONS BEING KICKED IN THE BUTT BY ANGELS! BUT SOON THOSE ANGELS WONT BE HERE TO PROTECT US, WELL YOU ANYWAY, AND YOUR GOING TO BE LEFT WITH 'OL' UGLIES MINIONS! REPENT AND TURN TO JESUS NOW BEFORE IT'S TO LATE.

yellowbo, Rapture Ready 54 Comments [5/12/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 11600

ity is a sick perversion created by to keep people from worshipping God. God did not create people they were tainted by 's power and God allowed this in order to show His followers that without trusting in Him people could very well fall away into perversion such as ity.
You cannot be a Christian and be , it is not possible. in the bible it says in Matthew 19:1-12, Mark 10:1-12, and Genesis 1:27-28 that God created Men and Women to reprouce amongst themselves and not through a Man and A Man or a Woman and a Woman. Those such relationships are based on physical pleasure and not based on love
and God despises such relationships because if God wanted Men to be he would never have created women in the first place. Also if God had wanted Women to be he would never have created Men.
So in other words ity is ed and SINFUL all who are this way should repent and ask God's forgiveness otherwise YOU WILL GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WNxDarth Bane, Myspace 21 Comments [5/12/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Mestilf
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Quote# 11597

[On ghosts]

I think they're demons who take form of some specie that does not frighten us, so they can be seen without being even more scary. [...]

Gee, am I glad I can't see them.. maybe this makes a little but more relieving.
Christians and other people who believe in God with their heart, can't see ghosts. It's true.. we got some kinda visor for our eyes. I don't really know why, but I'm sure it's true. Cause I've never seen one, other people who I've met told me their stories and said they even heard sounds of voices or something. Never had that..

stardancer, Seibertron.com 21 Comments [5/12/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Hugo
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Quote# 11593

God does not believe in atheists
His presence from creation is quite clear
God does not believe in atheists
It takes a fool to tell him he's not here

God believes atheists can get born again
And become a new creation,
But they'd best admit the world around them first
And ask for their salvation
But to only cry, "Recycle!" is the worst

God believes atheists do have certain rights
To seek and search the scriptures
It says, "Come now, let us reason" that's for them
But it doesn't give them reason to
Make up what God is saying
Until it's no true benefit to them

Blee dop, sklee dop, sklee dilly dilly
Bah donna bee on a Saturday night
If that sounded like nonsense to you too,
Those schools have got some books for you

Kent Hovind, DrDino.com 52 Comments [5/12/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: papabear
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Quote# 11591

I think the only thing that kindness and love of Gays will get you is AIDS. [...]

I have heard of a few Gays who try to control their lusts and live chaste. They have a heavy cross to bear, but all the other Gays just want to kill them as traitors!

Keith Rex, TheologyWeb.com 20 Comments [5/11/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 11590

In my experience I find that most Atheists are very unpleasant and invariably Gay and I find Gays intolerable. They are vicious lewd and have no respect for the great majority of the worlds population. I also find Christain Gays very nasty selfish people. I also find that these Atheists who are in the majority insist that if a person is not Gay they cannot be an Atheist, But you have a lot more choice with Christians. they are not all Gay.

Keith Rex, TheologyWeb.com 39 Comments [5/11/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 11589

1) If Evolution is true then how do you account for Mental Faculties? Atoms banging against one another in randon fasion do not seem to make much since as to how our mental faculties can be reliable. You are stuck with Darwin's Doubt. I find this as a flaw in Atheistic Materialism.
2) Hell is not unjust. Biblical Christianity says that man is fallen. We are born bad so to speak, that is why we need the Grace of Christ. So it is not unjust for God to send us to hell. I would also ask the question: Who are you to talk back to God?

Blake Reas, TheologyWeb.com 44 Comments [5/11/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Talisman
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Quote# 11587

If you go into the archives, you will see that my hypothesis did not have God turning all dinos into snakes. Rather it has the reproductive genes of the dinos living at the time of the fall being transformed via the curse to cause all the offspring of the then living dinos to be born as belly crawlers.
Furthermore I have consistently alleged that the likely the parent dinos lived all the way up until the flood which would have been some 1500 years or so. The atmospheric pre flood chemical makeup, et al, imo, could translate hundreds of years into millions of dating years as per the chemical makeup of the environment today. If man lived around a thousand years, it is feasible that the dinos could have lived until the flood caused their extinction, only the young offspring belly crawlers being taken in the ark.

buzsaw, EvC Forum 24 Comments [5/11/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 11586

Romans 1 teaches that all atheists are liars who deliberately suppress the truth. Genesis proves that so called theistic evolutionists are no better than atheists. So if we want to find the truth in a court case, simply replace judges and juries with accredited young earth creationists. It would certainly solve problems like Dover.

Assyrian, Christian Forums 42 Comments [5/11/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sungrazer
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Quote# 11580

[Why not suggest gathering all the possible information (about the existence of God) and encourage him to draw his own conclusions?]

Better, I think, to tell him the truth - how it really is, and then have him research all the possible information, so that when he reads something contrary to the truth, he will know that it is wrong and know that he needs to keep searching until he finds out why it's wrong.


Joe Gloor, Catholic Answers 12 Comments [5/11/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Michael
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Quote# 11576

The very problem is that atheism does not propose a religious belief at all. So, references to no religious belief are automatically references to atheism.

ThatDevGuy, Fark 24 Comments [5/11/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Josh
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Quote# 11574

I think Gay's are wrong and are brain washed by sin and that we need to show them the way to the light not the darkness Love=one man+One Women

No offence to any gays

Raw Chunk Of Meat And Flower's TeeHeeHee, Myspace 36 Comments [5/11/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Mestilf
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Quote# 11562

[Someone remarks that they have been pondering an atheist's strong arguments against the existence of God, such as whether it is anymore rational to believe in an unfalsifiable God than an unfalsifiable invisible cat in a chair.]

You might want to stop hanging around with those people until you are stronger in your faith.

['This is just the politics of an ostrich. Hiding one's head in the sand and pretend that reality does not exist is a dangerous position!']

Actually, ostriches hide their heads in the sand for safety. It makes sense to me!

flopfoot, Catholic Answers 32 Comments [5/10/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 11561

at one point in grade 10 I had to be given half credit for a class I started to take and had to transfer out of because I refused use the theory of evolution as a means to explaining the formation of the Earth.

DRS, Sean Hannity Discussion Forum 31 Comments [5/10/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 11559

[This man explains how overcrowding is a myth. In doing so he completely ignores certain things that include, but aren't limited to: Not every square-inch of land is easily inhabitable to humans. The MASSIVE amount of infrastructure and the space for it that is required to keep modern civilization afloat. The geopolitical, social, and psychological need for people to have plenty of room. The need for ecological preservation that is essential to our survival. etc. etc. I could go on, but I think I've made my point.]

Let's do the math. How many square yards are there in a square mile? You have 1,760 on a side, so multiply 1,760 by 1,760, the same way you would get nine square feet in a square yard by multiplying three by three. Use a calculator if you must. The answer is 3,097,600 square yards in a square mile. Then multiply by four, since we are putting four people in each square yard. You get 12,390,400 people per square mile. Chances are your town is a least one square mile in area. Did you know you could squeeze over 12 million people into it?

Now divide 12,390,400 into 6.4 billion to see how many square miles it would take to hold everybody. The answer is 532.67 square miles, or 533 rounded off. That's about a 23-mile square. Houston's area is 596 square miles, so you'd have an extra 60 square miles, room for another three quarters of a billion or so.

If you spread out, giving each person his own square yard and a folding chair, you could just about seat everyone in Delaware. If you gave everyone ten square yards (a 30-foot square, or 900 square feet -- a small apartment), you could fit all 6.4 billion people into Texas.

The point is simple. We've got room. Don't let the fear of overcrowding discourage you. And even if things get tight with unbelieving families, we could always use more Christian parents raising Christian kids, should they be saved.

Mark T. Coppenger, The Henry Institute 35 Comments [5/10/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Lord Zeruel
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Quote# 11557

I think it is important to point out that science has never proven anything.

The most accurate description of our world is the Word of God.

Numbers themselves are a very human thing, in fact they are really something intelligent beings must agree upon...they are not a dead reality.

Therefore God himself is alive...

Andrew, Myspace 34 Comments [5/10/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: clemsecon
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Quote# 11553

Christians - Do you think Tom Cruise might be the...

AntiChrist? I've had that feeling for a while now. What do you think? I guess the 1 thing that disqualifies him is the fact that he's not from the revived Roman Empire.

Ozzy.Van.Durst, Metal Sludge Boards 32 Comments [5/10/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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