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Quote# 14322

The brain is the fundamental unit of life – yet evolutionists attempt to explain life by completely ignoring it.

SuperSport, Christian Forums 35 Comments [8/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14320

[In an article, headlined "Science Friction," that deals with politicians' views on issues of stem cell research and evolution:]

[Mike] Jenkins falls back on the argument that because evolution is a theory, it has yet to be proved. He believes that any class that includes evolution should also include creationism.

Jenkins says that depending on how you count years, the Earth could simultaneously be 10,000 years old and 4.8 billion years old.

"I think you can combine the two," Jenkins says. "Being extreme in either way is bad. I think you have to look at it and say, this is possible. It could be 10,000 years, or it could be 10 billion years. Don't be absolute and finite. You have to look at this with a scientific mind."

Mike Jenkins, Tucson Weekly 30 Comments [8/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: David D.G.

Quote# 14318

["Why is it when man does good, the atheist stand up and applaud how wonderful! Never giving God any credit. But when man does evil, God is to blame."]

Mankind blames God-


Satan-the Great Fool of Lies hates God! Satan feeds off the hate of People around the world, and he spreads more hate in Mankind's veins.

The Wise see through Satan, and we see what he is, and what he does, and plans to do!
Those darkened by Satan's whispering thoughts of disbelief blame God, for they cannot see in the end how Good triumphs over evil in the end.

To Blame God becomes a Landslide Numbing Crash.

RubiesFire1382, Christian Forums 32 Comments [8/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14317

I did not write, anywhere, that you cannot make a rational case for Christianity--of course you can. Many have done so with great skill. So I do not think people like Strobel or McDowell are foolish--not in the least. What I actually wrote, to paraphrase, is that no atheist will be persuaded by their rational arguments. Apart from being reborn, he will reject any such argument, and attribute that rejection, incorrectly, to his own intellect.

If, say you, are reborn, then you will begin to see the rationality of Christianity. Perhaps a book such as Stobel's will be the means by which the gospel taks hold of you--but without being reborn, you'll always consider it foolishness.

And there is no contradiction--moral inability to choose God in our natural, fallen state is not an excuse--we are commanded to choose God The unhappy fact that, apart from God's first choosing us, we cannot is our dilemma, not our excuse.

David Heddle, EvolutionBlog 13 Comments [8/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: David D.G.

Quote# 14315

(Note: This is part of a formal debate)

Euthanasia is suicide and sucide is indeed selfish. Suicide is focusing solely on your own circumstances and on your own pain to the degree that you don't want to put up with life anymore. Its the crowning achievement of selfishness.

Everyone lives with pain, so at some point you must force some people to live in pain. Pain is something that defines living and life, therefore every life will contain some pain.

Even if you accept your premise, there must be an amount of pain that is not justified and an amount of pain that is. Getting sunburn for you non-black people is painful, yet we would agree that sunburn is no justification for euthanasia. At some point there has to be a distinguishment between pain you have to live with and pain that justifies euthanasia even if we accept all of your previous arguments.

Secondly, there is a social duty to live if you in fact have social duties to fulfill. There have been many tales of soldiers who could have given up on life but instead lived through excruciating pain to fulfill some social obligation. The runner of Marathon comes to mind. So even then there are some cases that there is a social obligation.

Thirdly, wallowing in self pity to the point where you focus solely on your pain rather than anything else once again points out the selfish nature of suicide. Sucide focuses solely on the person who contemplates or does it, and hardly anyone else without the prism of "me, me, me".

baconbits, Naruto Forums 60 Comments [8/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 14313

(In response to the discussion topic of 'would you forgive a murderer?')

I'd offer my forgiveness (and reminder to him that he's going to hell anyway) about 10 seconds before the state flipped the switch executing him. Then I'd say a prayer of thanks to God for his execution and have a big old party celebrating it. That's how we Christians in Alabama handle forgiveness.

Gene, WorldMagBlog 42 Comments [8/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14312

Sex is one of the worse things in the world. What does it do for you? Very little that you can't do with yourself while saving a lot of money and time. Hell, it mostly just shows how fat and ugly you truly are infront of someone else who is probably fat and ugly and just all around disgusting. [...]

[<a href="http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=healthNews&storyid=2006-03-17T175726Z_01_WAT005095_RTRUKOC_0_US-ABORTION-PILL.xml&rpc=22" target="_blank">Link to this new story</a>]

Hooray for deaths for easy women.

Yeah, I said it. Women on the pill are easy. Why else would you take something that prevents having a baby every day if you aren't either expecting sex to be random or actually quite frequent. Yes, promiscuity is pathetic and promiscuous people are really pathetic. Unless its rape, the woman is to blame. If women get pregnant its their responsibility to not. Its that simple.

yarinaosu, Livejournal 69 Comments [8/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14309

Sex is pointless. Those who pursue sex are a bunch of idiots that need to have their heads bashed in. Life is about doing something. Sex is not doing something. You want to procreate? Well, you definately don't need to worry about sex to do that. Theres a big difference from doing something for a child and doing something for pleasure.

No, your body should have no respect! Its there to be controlled. Lets follow the fucking Buddhist example of mastering the body instead of living in a fucked up hedonistic society that teaches people to be fat disgusting pigs while also requiring them to fuck as much as possible. Those fucked up "journalists" are the ones responsible for so many girls being depressed and having eating disorders. They tell the kids to have no discipline and do whatever they want, but doing whatever you want makes you physically unable to do whatever you want after a while. The body is not ment for gluttony or lust. You become numb to it all.

Sex, food, and indulgence is a drug. Don't take the damn drug, or at least shoot yourself because you are so fucking worthless that you can't contribute to society.

yarinaosu, Livejournal 54 Comments [8/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14308

<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=393938&in_page_id=1774&in_a_source=" target="_blank">This</a>, combined with a few other books that I have, have pointed out that self control comes from the frontal lobe.

Natural self control. You know, the whole "human" part of your brain? The more front it is, the closer to the end of evolution it is. Most people act at the back of their brain, which doesn't allow for intelligence. So really, being unable to control yourself sexually is a sign that you are, after all, retarded.

Wanting sex, after all, is a brain disorder and not human. Hedonists should be put down for having brain problems.

yarinaosu, Livejournal 34 Comments [8/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14301

I believe the Bible overwhelmingly supports a <U>swift</U> death penalty for murder, rape, homosexuality, adultery, kidnapping, and yes, even unrepentant cursing of your parents. [...] If you work through the logical consequences, it is brilliant wisdom that would have saved countless lives

Fred Williams, Evolution Fairytale 46 Comments [8/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14298

But he is also called "the Prince of the Power of the Air" (Eph. ii, 2). This principality would seem be the same as "the heavenly places"---our version incorrectly translates "high places" (Eph. vi. 12)---which, as Paul tells us, swarm with the spiritual hosts of wickedness. It is by no means necessary to restrict it to the eighty or a hundred miles of atmosphere supposed to surround the earth: for if Satan's power extends to the sun, as we suggested above, and so to the whole of out solar system, the kingdom of the air would include the immense space in which the planets of our centre revolve: and in such a case it seems not unlikely that the throne of its prince may be situated in the photosphere of the sun. We should thus find a deep underlying significance in the face that idolatry had always commenced with, and in no small degree consisted of, the worship of the Sun-god, whether he be called San, Shamas, Bel, Ra, Baal, Moloch, Milcom, Hadad, Adram-melch and Anamelch, Mithras, Apollo, Sheikh Shems, or by any other of his innhumerable names.

G H Pember, Earth's Earliest Ages 21 Comments [8/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 14296

If you are not electing Christians, tried and true, under public scrutiny and pressure, if you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin. Whenever we legislate sin, and we say abortion is permissible and we say gay unions are permissible, then average citizens who are not Christians, because they don't know better, we are leading them astray and it's wrong.

Rep. Katherine Harris, R-Fla, The Seattle Times 27 Comments [8/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 14295

Another way the Devil can gain popularity is working in the realm of law enforcement. It is well-documented that mediums do help with finding crime victims. How appropriate that the devil would know where and how filthy and deadly sins were committed. I'm sure he keeps a chronicle of the deadly sins, over which he holds sway. He also must feel like the victotr as his sinful cohabits are accepted in the law enforcement of today. In that he receives credibility.

Betty F. Qualls, The Curse of the Image: A Handbook for the Tribulation 20 Comments [8/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 14294

The liberals are nothing but a plague of disease ridden scum. They want America to be destroyed and to be overrun by Muslim bastards.
Liberals do not care about the poor. They only are pseudos, but in reality they are closet racists, not to mention closet gays.
Any Liberals that supports the destruction to Israel should be put in some sort of concentration camp. They will then realize what suffering is all about.
Our great president has done his best to make this world a better place and to rid of the Islamic Facist scumbags.

Those that do not support Bush, do not support our troops.

blackmanwithbigsteel, IMDB 49 Comments [8/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sandman

Quote# 14290

[on the Bible] But it IS inspired by God, or it wouldn't be called the Word of God.

KennethhDCollins, Bibleforums.org 32 Comments [8/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14289

[Worst analogy ever: faith in God is like being tied and bound to a chair and ordered to believe in the existence of stationary]

He used the example of a pencil being on a desk; You cant question whether that pencil is fact or not because you can see it. But people question wether God is real or not because you cant see him. But then I began to think. What if someone put the pencil inside the desk, therefore, nullifying your ability to see it. They then tied you to a chair so you could not look inside the desk, to proove that it was-or was not- there. And they bound your hands, to restrain you from feeling the presence of the pencil. They ordered you to believe. They told you to belive that the pencil was there, that the unknown was fact and the possible deception was absolute truth. And you did; you did believe. You saw the pencil cast a shadow (like christians feeling the presence of God) and your mnd was made. But then you failed to see it for days to came (like christains doubting their faith). Suddenly the person who bound let you free (a metaphor of dying) and you were able to see fi the pencil was their or not; it was.

tidus_rox, Eyes on Final Fantasy 43 Comments [8/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Raistlin

Quote# 14283

[regarding the question of fossil evidence and what happened to Dinosaurs]

Believe it or not, this is one of the topics that I discussed with the Lord. gators and crocks, yes. So are elephants and Rhinoceros's (Praise God for spellcheck )

Some of the things that God revealed to me was that they were not vicious. The big guy with the huge pointy teeth? He ate trees. There was one dino that was found that scientist had believed had swallowed another dinosaur whole? He did not. She was pregnant. They did not lay eggs, they gave live birth, like rhinos do today.
Well, except for the big bird thingy. And unlike its Hollywood and Japanese film counterparts, they had feathers.

Why are they gone? The Lord says that there were not all that many of them to begin with. They were on the ark. And they simply did not reproduce after the flood rapidly enough to survive. With the exception of the ones that survived. Crocks, gators, elephants, rhinos.

Gabbylittleangel, 123 Christian Forums 32 Comments [8/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Tim Wilkins

Quote# 14281

Stem cell research is retarded. Screw it. Why do we need to live more than 50 years when most of us waste that time anyway?

yarinaosu, Livejournal 46 Comments [8/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14280

There is a big difference between knowing whether God exists and whether Santa Claus exists.

The biblical prophets and writers made statements like, “The word of the Lord came to me,” “When the Lord began to speak through Hosea, the Lord said to him …,” and so on. There was no guesswork or doubt — the writers say God communicated direct with people with knew Him.

But who would claim such personal contact with Santa Claus? For instance, is Santa Claus tall and skinny with long black hair? Does he live at the equator and ride a motorcycle? If these details are not correct, how do we know they're not?

In contrast, the Bible writers and prophets clearly identify God for us. They tell us about Him and how to know Him personally. Jesus said, “he that hath seen me hath seen the Father” (John 14:9). Millions have found that God rewards those who earnestly seek Him (Hebrews 11:6). Would anyone rush to claim the same for Santa Claus?

Creationtips, Creation Tips 32 Comments [8/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Babbleon

Quote# 14279

[Agreeing to the original post, saying that Islam is just as big a threat to the U.S as Nazism and Communism]

Thats right. The Islamo-fascists are the new nazi's. And just like General Patton kicked ass in WWII, we need to take Iran and Syria out. We need to destroy these bastrards. And guess what, I hope they track you down and put your pussy ass on the front lines. You liberal cowards are psychotic and retarded.

Gallus07, IMDB 30 Comments [8/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Mister J.

Quote# 14276

[Um, huh? I didn't ask if you wanted something, I just asked where antibiotics and virus strains come from? Surely you have an answer if you don't believe it is from evolution? You are apparently being rather dishonest if you are going to claim you will never believe in evolution, yet dodge a simple question I ask.]

I know what you were doing. It would just be a waste of my time to spend the couple of hours it would require for me to hunt up the information in the first place. Then whatever I say, I could be accused of using the wrong words, or being ignorant of the latest developments in science.

In reality, your question was an invitation to an argument. You don't really want to know what I think about where viruses come from.

The answer to your question is: wherever the leading authorities in YEC say viruses come from, that's what I believe.

FallingWaters, Christian Forums 28 Comments [8/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Mandrake

Quote# 14274

These four bills would require that in every classroom from kindergarten through high school perverse sexual activity be praised and highlighted in a positive light. They would require textbooks, many of which would then also be produced for other states beyond the borders of California, make positive references to the ideas of men putting on women's under things. They would restrict school districts from being able to bar females from displaying dildos on the outerwear of their prom dress. And in functional sexuality courses from K-12, they would require positive explanation of the merits and instruction of anal intercourse.

Kevin McCullough, WorldNetDaily 26 Comments [8/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: NotMe

Quote# 14270

1. The Fallacy of False Assumptions: In logic as well as in law, "historical precedent" means that the burden of proof rests on those who set forth new theories and not on those whose ideas have already been verified. The old tests the new. The already established authority judges any new claims to authority.
Since Islam came along many centuries after Christianity, Islam has the burden of proof and not Christianity. The Bible tests and judges the Qur'an. When the Bible and the Qur'an contradict each other, the Bible must logically be given first place as the older authority. The Qur'an is in error until it proves itself.
Some Muslims violate the principle of historical precedent by asserting that Islam does not have the burden of proof and that the Qur'an judges the Bible.

2. Arguing in a circle: If you have already assumed in your premise what you are going to state in your conclusion, then you have ended where you began and proven nothing.

Circle If you end where you began, you got nowhere.

1.Proving Allah by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Allah.
2.Proving Muhammad by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Muhammad.
3.Proving Islam by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Islam.

Dr. Robert Morey, Answering-Islam.org.uk 33 Comments [8/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14269

Now are you stating that there was no global flood??? Is there any part of the Bible that you DO believe??? Of course there was a global flood, and scientific evidence is proving this more and more all the time. You know those layers that were supposed to take millions of years each to form? Well, they realize now that that's not the case. If there was even 10 years in between, they would see evidence of insects and other small animals burrowed under each level. They would also see signs of erosion in between the layers. Guess what? They find NEITHER ONE. The only conclusion they can possibly come up with is a global flood. All the different types of minerals and everything else was caught up in this flood and slowly began to settle to the ground, the heaviest minerals first on through to the lightest. It's like mixing oil and water.

KennethDCollins, Bibleforums.org 21 Comments [8/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14263

[as it got clear in a later post, the first sentence is to be understood literally; she actually asserts that God told her about this in a private conversation]

Something else the Lord revealed. There is one creature that scientist put together from some bones that they found. They created a whole new animal that never existed.
They took a long bone from each leg, and made a huge tail out of it. It became a dinosaur with a long neck, short legs, and a long tail. The bones were actually from a giraffe. #Rofl

Gabbylittleangel, 123 Christian Forums 23 Comments [8/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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