Quote# 15000

[Man IS an animal]

April1663: Man is not an animal! Man is a living soul! A dog does not know right or wrong. Dogs merely exist. Man has a purpose! Jesus didn't come and die on the cross to save the whales! He died to save Mankind! Man might have the same characteristics as a mammal, but we are not animals! That kind of thinking and teaching is exactly why most of todays young people and teenagers are acting like animals. One cannot be expected to perform over what they have been taught! You teach a child that he is fat and he will think he is fat for the rest of his life! You teach a child that he is nothing more than a common animal and that is what he will become!

katyanne: Yes good point Laura! I still struggle with how my parents used to tell me how stupid I was and I still a lot of times think I'm stupid. If you are taught something that much you do end up believing it. I think you hit the nail on the head!

April1663 & katyanne, Teens-4-Christ 47 Comments [9/15/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Ben

Quote# 15006

We are so blessed to be in a country ruled by George W. Bush, the greatest president in history. He's the only person who has the guts to take the war around the world and not have one here. He's the only one who knows that you have to attack or be attacked. He's the only one who knows how to get the job done. Why? Because he's ruled by God, and God tells him what to do.

Also, he listens to God on other important issues like stem sell research and homosexuals, and Bush knows that both are very wrong and should be outlawed. I can't wait for the elections and Bush will have all the power he needs onl every level.

We need a country that isn't afraid of anything, that isn't going to tolerate people who shouldn't be here, and that isn't going to tolerate homosexuals littering our streets.

Thank God for George W. Bush. I hope he can get elected again -- he should change that law too.

onebillionserved, The Huffington Post 57 Comments [9/15/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14921

[Emphasis in original]

Homosexuals are not called "dogs" by God in the Bible for nothing (Deuteronomy 23:18). Now you know the true origin of Aids among mankind. It had its origin from homosexuals who had and continue to have anal, genital and oral sex with animals. Now you understand one reason God forbids fornication. The next time you get ready to have illicit sex of whatever type, you might want to ask: "With whom or with what kind of animal did this person last copulate with?"

Robert T. Lee, tencommandments.org 57 Comments [9/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Ben

Quote# 14922

["There is far more evidence supporting the theory of evolution (and indeed it is a scientific theory) than gravitational theory. Do you deny that gravity exists?"]

Not to get off subject, but our lack of knowledge concerning gravity (and time for that matter) has always irked me. Shouldn't we know the MOST about the simpler things, and worry about the more complex later?

I mean, I have yet to hear a good explanation for particle/wave duality and if we don't even know what we're made of- sheeesh Why worry about DNA if you can't even agree on a good definition for light/energy or something "simple" like a dimension.

CapnBarbosa, Free Republic 27 Comments [9/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sinister Minister

Quote# 14923

[I received these as private messages, so I can't link to the post. Link goes to the guy's profile.]

Its not really about pro choice or pro life because those are styles and a style is a crystallization and crystallization is a cessation of growth and prosperity.

Styles and crystallizations are anti-reality because reality is never static, not even in space.

Even your favorite book is on fire right now, its just burning at a rate that is too slow to produce visual flames, but 55 years from now the book will appear brown and singed----almost as if by flame----say cheese, you get the picture.

Many different interactive, active elements combine to form the situations around abortions, so to see the picture clearly we must remove ourselves from our limited, narrow initial perspectives and catch a hot-air balloon to the bigger picture...........otherwise you can separate, isolate, limit, control, and be a lonely skittle.

[I'm sorry, what does natural oxidation have to do with women's political rights again?]

Oxidation = natural death = Mother Earth Progression.

death = man-made fire = abortion/war = Mother Earth Regression.

Combustion is the number one source of smog, regression, abortion, unnatural death.

Sometimes people need to remind me that I live in the otherworld and sometimes people have no idea how i got where i am and in that case whatever i say makes no sense, so i apologize, and i might as well apologize again because this all probly makes no sense either but in light of my path it makes perfect sense.

*****All I'm really trying to say is that to declare oneself pro life or pro choice is a style and a crystallization and a stagnation of growth which promotes an unatural Mother Earth death like a man made fire that will take your book from you in 100 seconds instead of 100 decades. We need stories not slogans. I am from: the future but i live in the present, you see, that cannot be true, we can only live in the present, and thus we can only be pro-life or pro-choice in the immediate situation of life and death, and at no other time is it accurate to be pro choice or life.

Tear down the walls that define your perspectives and float up in a hot air balloon to my perspective where we can see immediate time exist on our blue and white planet and see time not exist in our eternal space where there is no time except the time of creation. Creation via big bang or by God or by both or by none, at most all we can have is a time of creation, and perhaps a time of end, but there are no other times that exist in space except for the time on blue and white planet. There is only one planet. The other planets are just random balls of dust and ice space matter that just happen to orbit the sun as well even though thousands of lifeless balls of space matter orbit the sun too for the simple reason that the sun creates a gravitation pathway for the other balls of dust, if there was only one planet there would be need for grouping other lifeless balls of dust/ice/spacematter ambiguously into the precise atmosphere of Earth.

rAtnA's, Myspace 34 Comments [9/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sierra

Quote# 14928

[A continuation of the above post. Responding to, "I don't know what you're on, but being pro-choice is about supporting a person's right to make their own medical procedures. You wouldn't talk like this if the subject were a person's right to consent to open-heart surgery or taking insulin.]

I'm on the love that spun the original hydrogen carbon and nitrogen into place....

....and all i do is collect data like Edwin Hubble. I have no lofty opinions to impose on people. I don't babble in theories or messy opinions. All i do is gather data. Raw, accurrate, retestable, observable data is all that we need to know.

I dream of "hot air balloon" perspectives so that I can see past the walls that limit our perspectives.

There is no set 'yes or no' answer to anybody's definition of consent in any medical situation.

I like how you said that pro-choice and pro-abortion are not the same. I am advocating for a return to Mother Earth's crystallization-free natural order, although i don't "advocate" it for anybody but myself, and sometimes i like to let other people know what I'm doing if I think its relevant, and i let you know because maybe you care, maybe not, my guess is yes.......? Anyways can pro-choice be pro-life and pro-abortion at the same time? Yes. But also, pro-choice can be pro-life and anti-abortion at the same time too in perhaps another situation too.......so to say "I'm pro choice" is a crystallization that is fake because even though you are for the rights of the woman, perhaps in some distant situation that might change to include the rights of the natural order of Mother Earth to produce more children because contrary to most pro-choice peoples' world view, many people who come from bad, disadvantaged childhoods end up growing into the most successful adults of all because of the extra challenges, and also, one day I will open a huge school for "unwanted" children and I can almost garuantee you that after time in my school the original parents will want their kids back because i will teach them how to be highly successful by collecting/organizing/analyzing data instead of reading books about other peoples' data-collection adventures...............and how can something that mimics seretonin help the brain produce natural serotonin correctly? What happened to the Natural Order of Mother Earth? How can so many different drugs be "generally recognized as safe" and yet harm the mitochondria that power all cells?

rATnA, Myspace 35 Comments [9/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sierra

Quote# 14929

[So it turns out, the world ended yesterday.]

<img src="http://static.flickr.com/80/242500881_441d4849b2.jpg?v=0">

This first nuclear war will eventually lead to the involvement of all nations. These wars will intensify in the thirteen months that remain after the initial war prophesied for September 12, 2006, until the final burning blast that darkens the sun.

The days following September 12, 2006 will be filled with fear of reprisal and more nuclear destruction. The cause of war and fighting will still remain; as long as the cause remains so will the threat of war. The cause is plainly shown in the inspired prophecies from Genesis to Revelation.

Yisrayl Hawkins, YisraylHawkins.com 65 Comments [9/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sierra

Quote# 14934

['News just breaking that Ann Richards is dead from throat cancer.']

I hope for her sake that the afterlife didn't come as too much of a surprise for her.

['You've been?']

If you had a rapport with God, you'd know what we are talking about.

TheyreAllCommies, American Conservative Forum 23 Comments [9/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14935

[In a thread about the possibility of a convert to Islam winning a seat in the US Congress]

Muslim cult members do not belong in government jobs. People seriously need to look at their stupidity in voting for an Islamic freak who will look to his cult rules from Hell to run the government.

Wolfcounsel, Free Conservatives 29 Comments [9/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14938

demo cracy ----- demo N cracy ----- DEMONCRACY. Now you know the origin of democracy. It is none other than SATANOCRACY

Robert T. Lee, tencommandments.org 65 Comments [9/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Ben

Quote# 14940

It is impossible for an ape to give birth to a human out of thin air--this is impossible; neither could artificial insemination produce the results that prove otherwise. The ape-to-man hoax is something that should be done away with since it is biologically impossible. There is no singular point of which the mutation could happen that is scientifically plausable. Because when we truly see how evolution should occur, we see that it's supposed to happen during conception and pragnacy and birth. There is no such singular point of macro-mutant; all mutations are slight birth defects that can live on and produce very healthy children of their own. A retarded ape or a human can give birth to healthy children, so Julian Huxley's view of speculation has already been refuted. You can all go home now and relax.

bouhk, Sean Hannity Discussion Forum 35 Comments [9/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14942

You know...I have a confession rolleyes.gif A while back I used to watch Wil and Grace (I know, I know, don't bash me now...I got right...). I knew homosexuality was wrong, but it was entertaining and I thought ahh...it's not that bad. I was watching it one night and one of the girls on there was scared to go to the doctor for a check up, so she had Wil go with her. When she got her results back she didn't want to open them out of fear. So Wil opens them. During that she says, 'God, if the results are alright then I'll spend the rest of my life devoted to you!'. When Wil gets them open he says, 'yeah, you're alright.'. She then pulls her hand out from behind her back which had her fingers crossed and shouts, 'HaHa, got you again, God!'
I was so shocked and disturbed. I seriously almost cried. I (thank the Lord) haven't watched it since and I de-reccomend it to anyone I hear talking about it.

Lizzie, Teens-4-Christ 33 Comments [9/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Ben

Quote# 14948

In our society, an earring is piece of jewlery worn by women, therefore, for a guy to have a pierced ear symbolizes their affiliation with the sodomite community.

Bro. Randy, Teens-4-Christ 59 Comments [9/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14949

['"Christ" was often written as "XP" or "Xt"; there are references in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle as far back as 1021 AD." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas

If you feel insulted because you are ignorant, well, what can I say? It's entirely unfounded.']

First, elchip said it was Greek, then Wmoonbat said it was Roman, now you're saying it's Anglo-Saxon. You leftwingers just kind of bullshiat your way through everything, don't you?

All I said was that I thought it was insulting, and bigoted, to "X" Christ out. And you guys do that these days primarily because you're anti-Christian, and anti-Jew, bigots. (elchip is exempted for various reasons)

The reason so many of you are intimidated by me is because you're wrong on so many things, I call you on it, prove... and you try and bullshiat your way out of it in some other fashion.

Let's face it... Leftwingers are intellectual lightweights because 'reality' isn't something they want to deal with.

ericjohnson0, Fark.com 33 Comments [9/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gadren

Quote# 14951

Ok so i think we can all agree that the Bible is our final authority on all things? if you agree with that then we should have no problem. so if the Bible is the Final authority on ALL things that includes movies, yes? yes! well in that case Kevin hit the nail on the head when he quoted Psalm 101:3 but lets look at it again for good measure. I will set NO wicked thing before my eyes.... whoa whoa wait a sec read it again... NO WICKED thing. so think about disney any disney show from Beauty and the beast to The little mermaid to The Empror's New Groove... the bible says they are wrong.... why? cause they have wickedness in them. actually ive set a challenge before my youth group to find one movie that has nothing that goes against the Bible (wickedness!) and they cant find one... want to know why? simply because if there is a movie where everyone always acts right and does right it would be boring! if there isnt something that is wrong in it then there is zero plot!

But lets get back to the verse, no wicked thing..... that means NO drinking, NO cussing (zero zip nada!!), NO immodesty (whether on the cartoon character or a real person, modest is modest period), NO rebelloin, NO magic(whether 'good' or bad, whether in a fantisy world or in real life, the Bible doesnt cange in fantasy), NO false religions (that means Sound of Music is out since they promote Catholisim), NO using false versions of the 'bible' (KJV is it for the english speaking people, that kicks out veggie tales)..... ok i think i got the point across.... No wickedness means just that No wickedness, unless of course God made a mistake?

So where is the line we should draw? well God drew it for us, No wickedness and from all I can see that means no movies because they all have something wicked in them. the problem is that we have been so exposed to evil that we are used to it and we dont see wickedness as wicked, instead we see it as cute, fake, or ok... my friends let's back the standard up to God's standard....

bound4glory, Teens-4-Christ 54 Comments [9/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jonathan Fisher

Quote# 14957

Never trust Muslim. Over here or over there.

The only thing I know so far about the Muslims serving in our military is that all sorts of special concessions have to be made for them because of their religion, and that one rolled a grenade into a tent of sleeping commrades, killing several.

If I was in uniform, serving along side an "American" Muslim in uniform, I would never shut my eyes to sleep. I'd rather be in a foxhole with a Frenchman than a Muslim. At least you could be pretty sure that all the Frenchman would do is tuck tail and run. The Muslim would more than likely slit your throat if given half a chance.

Lubbock, Free Conservatives 41 Comments [9/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14958

I think that the district is well within its authority to tell the teacher ...'If you can't figure out that you're really a man -- you've got the DNA, the genetic sequence for being a man -- you can't be a teacher'. I think a serious gender identity confusion like this would rule this man out as a good teacher, regardless of his other capabilities."

Bob Knight, American Family Association 28 Comments [9/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Amigone201

Quote# 14875

My seventh dream I saw myself living the days of Jesus. I was living in a house made out of clay, with floors of dirt and it had only one room in it. I saw preparring dinner with 11 other woman. I saw one big, long table and was kneading the bread dough, another was pouring wine, another was preparing the fruits, can’t remember what the rest were preparing. It was a beautiful sunny day! The windows had shutters to open and close, no glass. A lady appeared at the window while still daylight and whispered to me that the apocalypse is comming. I looked at her and said that I knew. She appeared again, except this time it was dark outside and whispered “the apocalypse is here, NOW” I started walking the narrow alleys, path of dirt, and looked up at the skies and saw a stream of mist falling from the North skies of heaven. The mist crawled through each house in the valley and sucked up every soul that had no faith. The mist went right through me and couldn’t hurt me. I then turned around and saw a big group of people following me. We then walked through a big group of people and they were all speaking different tongues. Then we saw four legged creature, with long torsos, long hairy tales, long neck, long wings, with heads of lions, and faces of humans and all looked demon. One enormous beast came up to me and started speaking to me very filthy. He then lay on his back, with all four legs up, and wanted me to rub his _____, but instead I smiled at the beast and said to it “here, I’ll just rub your tummy” I rubbed, and rubbed until his tummy area started burning him from the inside out. He then vanished into thin air. The other beasts started vanishing too! Then I walked the stairs up to heavens and they were so long! after stepping for so long and felt so out of breath and felt like giving up, then all the sudden some tall, gigantic, beautiful, golden gates appeared! I felt like a midget! I felt like giants lived on the other side. I came upon the golden gate that opened and touched it. It swang opened and walked through it. Again, Jesus with his beautiful long, white robe and golden rope around his waiste, received me with open arms, and he extended beautiful wings upon me and smiled again. He then showed me the promise land, the land of paradise! Everyone living there received me with such love, such beauty, and all welcomed me. They told me that from that day on, there shall never be night nor dark, there shall be no more illness, and we shall live forever again like it once existed. I can’t describe the land of paradise, because it’s like no land ever seen by humans, all I remember that it sure was the most beautiful place ever in our wildest imaginations. I then woke up and felt so bless by the lord. Now I must look for my mission and feel like I most express my dreams to as many people as I can, and tell everyone that he is coming, and coming very soon. We should all come together and have lots of faith, to all be christians and to BELIEVE! Open our eyes, open our ears, nad most of all, open our hearts and souls with faith!

mistylites, Apocalyptic Dreaming 29 Comments [9/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 14876

Oh and Aeon, dude, im a 14 year old kid and even I know that the soul is never ours to give in the first place. it is given by God and only God has the right to give it to anyone. And how can you ever “acheive balance” if you’ve given any part of yourslef to the devil. HELLO? I believe you have just been showed up by a fourteen year old. Dude

itellectual, Apocalyptic Dreaming 44 Comments [9/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 14877

Regarding the “rapture debunked” thing: No, it isn’t, and that article confirmed for me the fact that liberal theologians, no matter how conservative they think and say they are, are still liberal. The Book of Daniel written in the 2nd Century B.C.? That would make the author of the Book of Daniel a LIAR, and would make Jesus ignorant of this fact, since Jesus Himself referred to at least one prophecy from the Book of Daniel (indicating that that prophecy, at the very least, had a future fulfillment), and it would be out of character for Jesus to favorably quote someone who was a liar, particularly in detailing a prophecy regarding God’s Chosen People. Not to mention that Ezekiel (writing in the 6th Century B.C.) refers to Daniel, and God, speaking to one of the other prophets of that rough time period, mentions Daniel among a group of three “righteous” men: Daniel, Job, and Noah.

Anyway, go to the source (the Bible) before trusting a liberal scholar. Liberal scholars take liberties with the truth.

Douglas, Apocalyptic Dreaming 21 Comments [9/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 14878

"Did God make Eve out of Adam's rib, just like the Bible says?"
"Yes, and it's a scientific fact that all women have one more rib than men."
"That's pretty cool. What about the Garden of Eden? Is all that true?"

Mark Salvatore Pitifer, Return to Forever. 36 Comments [9/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 14882

(Jagella, the parts of her brain that have to do with conciousness were GONE, you seem to be arguing that someone without arms can throw a baseball. You can not determine her condition by watching a video.)

No. I'm arguing that a person who can throw a baseball has arms. Terri could respond--albeit to a very limited degree--to people and other stimuli. She then must have had a consciousness.

But then, I'm really not arguing anything anymore. It occurred to me a long time ago that there's no way I can prove anything to people who will not accept any evidence that runs counter to their cherished beliefs. (It's much like debating the resurrection with fundamentalist Christians.) If I do respond to any comments or questions on this thread, then it's just my way of trying to inform people. If that information is rejected, then I can do no more.

Jagella, Internet Infidels 14 Comments [9/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 14883

[In an opinion piece about same-sex marriage]

Even more disturbing is Wilkinson’s contention that the Constitution should not be amended to preserve marriage as the union of a man and a woman because the Framers “certainly did not envision our Constitution as a place to restrict rights.”

What right is being restricted? Prior to the appalling arrogance and power play of four judges in Massachusetts, where did this right exist? There is no duly enacted law granting a right to same-sex marriage. Furthermore, marriage never has been recognized as a right beyond regulation by states. Everyone has the same right to marry but no one ever has had a right to marry just anyone he or she chooses.

Jan LaRue, Concerned Women for America 39 Comments [9/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Amigone201

Quote# 14886

A HUSBAND almost throttled his wife during a heated theological argument triggered by a controversial Mel Gibson film, a court heard.
Michael Watson loosened his grip on the throat of his wife, Patricia, only when she appealed to his faith by gasping: “Do not touch God’s anointed.”
The court was told that the couple, both devout Christians, celebrated his birthday with dinner and a bottle of wine before sitting down to watch The Passion of the Christ.
Mrs Watson left the room, and her 44-year-old husband became so upset by the graphic depiction of the Crucifixion that he pulled the leads out of the television and went upstairs.
His wife then decided to watch the God Channel and went to ask him why the television was not working.
The couple separated after the attack but are now attempting a reconciliation.
Speaking after the hearing, Mrs Watson said that she had planned “a lovely evening” for her husband’s birthday. “I had bought The Passion of the Christ on DVD that day and we started watching it.” She said that she became upset and left the room before her husband.
“After a while Michael got upset because of the way Jesus’s Crucifixion was portrayed. He pulled the leads from the back of the television in anger and went upstairs.
“Later, I wanted to watch the God Channel but the TV would not work. I went upstairs to ask Michael why it wasn’t working and we argued about it.
“The Devil was in the house that night. I had to remind Michael that I am one of God’s annointed people. It was the devil that made him do that.”

Times Online UK News, news item 42 Comments [9/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Redhunter

Quote# 14889

>What makes one person’s faith more reliable than another person’s faith?

The more reliable faith is that faith which is true.

rhutchin, Internet Infidels 45 Comments [9/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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