Quote# 14449

Father Gabriele Amorth, who is Pope Benedict XVI's "caster out of demons," told Vatican Radio: "Behind Harry Potter hides the signature of the king of the darkness, the devil."

NewsMax, newsmax.com 79 Comments [9/2/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14451

(in response to War of the Angels being watched and investigated by the FBI for it's astonishingly high levels of "Smite 'em all and offer their corpses to Jeebus!" mentality)

THE HOLY SPIRIT PROTECTS THIS WEBSITE, SO GO AHEAD. WHO CAN COME AGAINST GOD ALMIGHTY?
FEAR OF MAN PROVES TO BE A SNARE, BUT THOSE WHO TRUST IN THE LORD ARE KEPT SAFE.

Guest, War of the Angels 37 Comments [9/2/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: DoctorX

Quote# 14452

[On homosexuals.]

BTW please don't use the word love to describe their feelings. I love many men. What they are feeling is NOT love.

Paidfor, Rapture Ready 32 Comments [9/2/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14453

Amen. Notice the titles of the big gay festivals. None of them contain the word "love."

Titles that I've heard include:

1. Gay pride
2. Southern decadence
3. Fantasy Fest


All of these festivals/orgies seem to revel in celebrating as many sins as possible, including pride, decadence, drunkenness, fantasy, and who knows what, probably astrology and tarot, too.

WhiteH2OWoman, Rapture Ready 39 Comments [9/2/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14426

[After nine Scottish firefighters were disiplined after refusing to hand out fire safety leaflets at the Scottish gay pride festival.]

"They were asked, while in uniform, to hand out leaflets during a demonstration where they had legitimate concerns about being the subject of taunts and jokes, and in which in some cases, their religious sensibilities would have been grossly offended by people dressed as priests and nuns lampooning the Church."

He added: "That the officers concerned are being forced to undergo diversity training is alarming. The duty to obey one's conscience is a higher duty than that of obeying orders."

Archbishop Mario Conti of Glasgow, BBC NEWS 28 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Evergreen

Quote# 14427

In the real world homosexuals (especially males) are generally predatory perverts who wouldn't think twice about bedding a 14 yo boy. You want to think that "Will and Grace" is a realistic picture of homosexuality. You're wrong. It doesn't show the incredibly widespread depression, drug use, disease and utter depravity of teh homosexual fetish community. These are people who are deeply ashamed of thier fetish, but that have been pushed by certain radical elements to publicize thier perversion in order to be more widely accepted. This makes their perversion normal in their eyes and this makes it easier to find someone who will glove up and give 'em the 5-finger anal salute. It makes it easier for them to find willing BOYS to rape. I'll bet that you've never heard about the homosexual counseling clinic in Portland, OR that was shut down because the couselors there (male and female) were using it to hook up with newer and younger victims. It got hushed up by the media and the gov't in Portland because they got threatened with a discrimination lawsuit, so most people have never heard of this event. I can guarantee you, though, if it happened in Portland, it's happening elsewhere. This is just one more piece of evidence of how wrong homosexuality is. I can tell you from painful personal experience that homosexuals are truly screwed up people. Depression, drug use and suicide run rampant among homosexuals. No one talks too much about this small fact, but it's there none-the-less.

Faithful Servant, Free Conservatives 121 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14430

[I'm sure there are a handful of individuals in the world who believe in the Christian god, are angry at Him, and call themselves "atheists". Let me be the first to tell you that such individuals are not atheists.]


Nonsense, again. The very fact that they call themselves atheist, as the word means "anti theist", is a testimony of their anger of God and Christians, or any other religion that professes the same. Agnostics have more sense than atheists do. Just, how can a rational individual make these claims:


There is no Deity
The soul doesn't exist
There is no After Life


without admitting that it is just out of spite?

You will observe that the so-called atheist is merely anarchist. Trying to do the impossible against Nature's rule of creating a void. The public has already passed judgement on them. Even in the decline of the Protestant's Religion there hasn't been an increase in atheism. They haven't gain a wind fall and remain at around 8% to 10% of the public. Why do you think that is so? Not many wants to become whining Christians who didn't get want they wanted from Christianity and decided to wage an all out war on the idea. Some even lamented and left atheism to join the rest of mankind.

I recommend posters treat them as vultures. You are not going to convince them because they are not open to reasoning. They only pick on the unprepared. Just turn the tables on them and they will scatter when they see a sign of life.

FreddieD, Apologetics.org 29 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14433

Evolution makes no sense at all. I just don't see how any intelligent person could believe such nonsense. I mean, have you ever seen an ape that could be taught to do algebra? No! Other than the most basic skills (which a dog can also be taught), an ape does not have the capacity to learn anywhere near the human level. Apes are dumb! You can say a dog is smart (and it might be), but it can't logic like a human being can.

Furthermore, if we evolved from a lower species, then why is it that the apes didn't evolve in the evolutionary process? Come on folks, you don't need a PHD (post hole digger) to figure this out. Where are all those half man/half ape fossils which should be abundant in the earth's soil layers? They don't exist. This is what is known as the "missing link" by evolutionists. Notice that I didn't call them "scientists" because there is NOTHING scientific about evolution. Science by it's very definition means "the study of." To "study" something, it must be observable. Not only is evolution not observable, it is not testable or repeatable in a lab. Do you realize that evolutionists CANNOT display even ONE single proof of evolution...NOT ONE! Dinosaur fossils don't prove anything except that they existed. Whether dinosaurs existed in Biblical times or during a pre-Adamic period is debatable amongst theologians. Many preachers believe that Lucifer operated a kingdom upon the earth prior to Genesis 1:2. The Bible does support this theory with credible evidence. This is commonly known as the "gap theory." Regardless, the fact that dinosaurs once inhabited this earth adds no credibility to the THEORY of evolution.

Evolution is for stupid people, stupid because they refuse to acknowledge the Word of God in their life. There is NO WAY you can believe the Bible and evolution. But you say, "what about 'theistic evolution' where God created everything and then allowed it to evolve? I'm glad you asked. There is no such teaching found in the Bible. Genesis chapter one is very clear that God created this earth as we know it today in 6 days. "IF" there was a pre-Adamic creation, it was destroyed according to Genesis 1:2. I won't be dogmatic as to whether or not there was a pre-Adamic time period, but the Bible is certainly dogmatic that all life on this earth today was created within the six days of creation. The Bible is very accurate in it's chronology. The Bible dates itself from creation up until the end of the Old Testament. The Bible dates creation at approximately 4,000 B.C. This means that all life on earth today was created about 6,000 years ago! There was no evolutionary process! There is nothing to prove the THEORY of evolution (and that's all evolution really is...a bogus theory).



David J. Stewart, jesus-is-savior.com 67 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sasquatch

Quote# 14434

[About a new law in Ohio where you can be placed on the sexual offenders list without having been convicted of a sex crime]

Maybe the ACLU should defend against acting on suspicions and supposed inferential meanings. It goes on everywhere, including here. And it has got to stop.

Rash judgments of another posts is just as wrong as judging another to be anti-semitic (just because an Orthodox Jew or Lebanese citizen is against the Zionists) or a sexual pervert (just because they are gay). Both can cause loss of employment and are definitely inflammatory.

Our Lord told us not to judge "lest ye yourself be judged."

He also told us that by their fruits you would know them.

So, if someone is caught with pornography on their computer, then that is a problem. Pornography is very dangerous. Isn't it true that almost all serial killers are addicted to porn? Aren't almost all sexual perverts addicted to porn?

If the Ohio law is placing someone on the sexual predator list because the authorities have evidence of hard core porn on their computers or hard core porn magazines in their possession, then this is a valid concern.


Aria, Christianforums.com 36 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: trunks2k

Quote# 14435

[Public schools fall under the state side of the separation of church and state. If you want to create a theocracy then you’ll have to do it somewhere else.]

If you want "seperation" then you are going to have to go elsewhere, can I recommend a few communist countries for you to try out. Our founding fathers began this country as a christian nation. We are not about to allow you to change that now.

The only seperation was that there was to be no state approved church like they had back in europe. In Russia the Orthodox Church was the official church. In Rome the Catholic Church was the official Church. In England the Anglo Church was the official Church.

The Danbury Baptist Association were concerned about that here in American and Thomas Jefferson reassured them that they had nothing to worry about no one was going to restrict or hinder their religious freedom.

Now you and others want to take those very rights away from Christian. The rights that many people have died to give us and that Jefferson worked hard to secure for us. You want to deny us the rights that our ancestors worked hard to secure for us and at times even went to war to secure.

Why should I allow you to take away what they were willing to fight for and even willing to sacrifice their life for? Why should I give up my freedoms today?

JohnR7, Christian Forums 54 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sgeo

Quote# 14436

Jesus said that faith can move a mountain and it surely can. If God gives us the faith that we won't get sick if we drink a pint of hemlock, then we won't get sick, period.

Carico, CARM 71 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14402

1. The Bible says that God stretched out the heavens. What does this mean to you guys? 2. We know how fast light travels on Earth, but there is gravity here, and light is affected by gravity. They actually have no clue how fast light travels in the vacuum of space, so what does that do to your theory?

KennethDCollins, bibleforums.org 30 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14403

I think 1-12 grade could be taught out of the book of Job. I truly do. I am a doctor of metaphysics and feel as if it is my duty to let the world know of the invisible things of life. i.e the spirit. But, God is great and it was Him who created all that is, and he did it with His powers. Our science is only products of His greatness. I want many to read here some excerpts from Job. It is great, smart, and right on the dime, and was more than 4000 years ahead of our scienctific age.

Thadd, bibleforums.org 29 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14404

Many years ago I stood up against the teaching of evolution at my school. I refused to go along with the bunk, and today (since I believed in Jesus then, but was not saved) I may have done even more. On those papers and such, I wrote what the teacher wanted, and then put that it is a lie as God created everything. God said and it was so! I put bible verses at the top and off to the sides. Before we compromised in that way, I stood up several times and preached to the class that the bible says...and God created. I spoke about Noah and the rainbow. Evolution is a big lie and it is certainly not scientific!

vinsight4u8, bibleforums.org 35 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14407

Why is it that spiders could spin and weave a million years ago, but they try to say people could only spin or weave 20,000 years ago.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 68 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Theironpaperclip

Quote# 14408

He is "the dragon" and "the serpent," both titles linking him to his role in the fall of man. He appeared to Eve in the form of a serpent, doubtless in the body of a serpent he had possessed. It is unlikely that a being so pretentious as the devil would choose as his mouthpiece an ordinary snake. Indeed, "serpent" can refer to any reptile. The reptile he deemed a suitable embodiment of himself was "the dragon," an ancient name for the sort of creatures we know as dinosaurs.

Ed Rickard, Bible Studies at the Moorings 17 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 14410

<a href="http://chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/4151779.html" target="_blank">Fort Worth pastor indicted on rape under guise of casting out demons</a>

Owens told her that a sex spirit and lesbian demon were inside her and needed to be cast out, police said. The pastor then asked her to lie on the floor and began yelling at her as if she were a demon, saying, "Loose her in the name of Jesus," according to an arrest warrant affidavit.

Leonard Owens, Houston Chronicle 31 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Bone_Vulture

Quote# 14416

My contradiction is that burden of proof is not to prove anything.
It is to prove it does not exist; once it is admitted as a belief.

Let me get the crayolas out! Ill draw a picture for ya.

In the Bible; it states God created everything. God is as real to me; as the keyboard I am typing with. I believe in God.

Your choice is to believe otherwise; yet you can not prove that God does not exist; nor the fact that He created everything.

The burden is not on me because I do not have a problem with believing in God.

I do not have to prove anything to you about God.

What else can be said.

The argument is not forcing you to do anything nor am I.

I am stating what I believe in.

I can show you where it is backed up in the Bible.

Yet the genral population of non -believers do not accept this as evidence.

Well I do not accept science's answers as an explanation of how creation come about.

It does explain the study of something existing; but does not explain how it came into existence.
The Bible does.

To say the Bible is a lie; requires proof.

So the burden is not on those that believe in God.


Paul, Myspace 38 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jesse

Quote# 14417

Ok take all your facts through your knowledge and then think of the things that are unexplained that leaves your facts hanging in the wind. Then look at the efforts you make to prove it anyways. That is faith; believing in something you can not understand or see.
Christians have a book that has been handed down through thousands of years; that people have died for; lived their whole life for; and can not be persuaded otherwise. Not the book itself but the inspired word of God. God Himself.

God gives me affirmations of my faith through my life; what affirmations do you get in the faith you have? I mean because you can not explain the origin of everything; what inspires you to keep believing it.

How many atheist have died or has taken as much criticism for what they believe in. The opposing force is always the non believer; although they do get caught up in the wrath of God at times; when they do attack the Christians. Definitely not a force to be reckoned with.
What have you shown?

Other than a bunch of theories based off of other theories that has been dismissed as NOT FACT.

I have went into great detail with you where I derive my answers from.



I will show this to you though.



Genesis1:1

In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.



Prove He didnt!

I can't.

As you go through that chapter it explains how this perfect order is dependant on other things He created and how we multiply and that it come about by Him saying so.

Proof is in the creation.

Anything else dating back that far explain anything different; or that has not been changed since.

The Bible still stands on God created it.

Your theories have changed more than i change socks in a lifetime. Which is sometimes twice a day.

Maybe one day man will get it right. It was not a problem in the beginning of time.

Yet man with all his knowledge now thinks he has superceded the existence of a all knowing God.

What a waste.

Paul

Paul, Myspace 35 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jesse

Quote# 14380

Evangelist preacher Franck Kabele, 35, told his congregation he could repeat the biblical miracle.

But he drowned after walking out to sea from a beach in the capital Libreville in Gabon, west Africa.

One eyewitness said: "He told churchgoers he'd had a revelation that if he had enough faith, he could walk on water like Jesus.

"He took his congregation to the beach saying he would walk across the Komo estuary, which takes 20 minutes by boat.

"He walked into the water, which soon passed over his head and he never came back."

Franck Kabele, DailyRecord 99 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Lasagne

Quote# 14385

[Reply to ERV evidence supporting evolution...]

First of all the ERVs don't interest me in the slightest, it's like geology and radiometric dating, it doesn't mean anything to me.

Mark Kennedy, Christian Forums 45 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14386

I"m in the same boat also. Health problem and Demons. Both are getting better though thru the grace of the Lord. Every Christian I know seems to have major problems. For the past year. Oddly enough, those who have no accepted Christ seem not to have problems. The Lord is probibly getting us ready for something.


Man4Jesus, Rapture Ready 42 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Nickstr5

Quote# 14396

So did God Create the Heavens and the Earth, or did mutations create the Heavens and the Earth? It has to be one or the other, it can not be both.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 36 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 14397

Neo-darwinism is truly a National disgrace. I do not say this as a cheap attempt at an insult. I say it with all honesty. Satan -- with the help of his little red-headed, mental-terrorist step-child (Charles Darwin) -- has turned this great nation upside-down. A small percentage of atheistic intelligence bandits have somehow managed to manipulate their way into the hearts and minds of the general population.

And this has been done though large-scale, mind-numbing, brainwashing techniques that have convinced a large portion ofAmerica that dumb creatures have evolved into intelligent ones. They have succeeded in convincing many that a tricycle can evolve into the space shuttle through blind and purposeless mutations guided by the mere notion that animals actually breed and have offspring. They have dumbed-down
society to the point where many people actually believe this stuff....people actually believe that the only differences between sweaty, bug-picking monkeys and humans are short arms and opposable thumbs. They think the difference between a hippo and a dolphin is just a series of random mutations that reshape the body. Little gets mentioned about how and where a dolphin's sonar came from.

supersport, Christian Forums 68 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 14400

COMFORTER,
TODAY, AFTER READING A BOOK CALLED "PORTALS TO CLEANSING" BY DR. HENRY MALONE, I DECIDED I NEEDED TO HAVE MY ANIMALS DELIVERED AS WELL. I STARTED WITH MY CAT. I HAVE ALREADY ANOINTED THEM AND PLED THE BLOOD OVER THEM, BUT I DECIDED THEY NEEDED A DELIVERANCE AS WELL.
I ANOINTED HER WITH OIL IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. THEN I DEDICATED HER TO THE LORD. THEN I BEGAN THE DELIVERANCE. AS SOON AS I TOLD THE EVIL FORCES TO LEAVE IMMEDIATELY, THE CAT DID TOO ! SHE RAN FROM ME AND HID. THEN, SHE RAN TO THE DOOR. SHE LOOKED FRIGHTENED. SO, LOOKING HER IN THE EYE, AND BEING ABLE TO TELL THERE WAS SOMETHING THERE BESIDES HER, I COMMANDED THEM TO LEAVE HER BODY IMMEDIATELY AS SHE IS DEDICATED TO JESUS CHRIST AND HIS PROPERTY. I LET HER OUTSIDE AND SHE YAWNED...WHICH IS AN INDICATION THEY ARE LEAVING. SHE STAYED OUTSIDE, DESPITE THE WIND BLOWING HARD. THEN, AFTER ABOUT 10-15 MINUTES SHE CAME BACK IN. SHE SEEMS DIFFERENT. IN A GOOD WAY. I GUESS THE DOG IS NEXT.
COMFORTER, ANY THOUGHTS OR ADVICE?

Guest, War of the Angels 157 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Strife Coltrane
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