Quote# 14448

The only thing a kid will learn in an American public school is that homosexuality is good, and America is bad. There is no way, under any considerations, circumstances, or conditions, that my kid will attend one of our leftist public brain laundries.

Wolseley, Christian Forums 94 Comments [9/2/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14447

Positive intelligence emits and can become light, just as light and energy can be converted into one another. A positive person will have a glow about them. A happy person will have an attractive shine coming through. The spiritually sensitive will feel that positive energy. Higher intelligence's will literally emit light from the greatness of their being.

Light is made of little pieces called photons. It may take countless intelligence to make a photon. Countless photons makes up a sunbeam. These photons travel the speed of light in waves. The photons from the sun convert back into energy when they hit the earth, which heats the Earth.

milobidswell@aol.com, The Little Book of Big Answers 44 Comments [9/2/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Maronan

Quote# 14446

Intelligence is in infinite supply, but how can intelligence become tangible matter? Realizing that intelligence can be converted into energy is the beginning to understanding this process.

This happens every time your spirit instructs your body to move, by thought. When you move, your intelligence sends a signal, a form of energy, to your body. If thought could not convert to energy, it would have no way to send the signal or control the energy to send the signal to your body. Thought is energy, just as energy is mass.

milobidswell@aol.com, The Little Book of Big Answers 25 Comments [9/2/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Maronan

Quote# 14439

Alright, most people say "WE SHOULD HAVE NEVER GONE TO WAR" look at the dumbass cliton you dems love so much you kno what hes the one who made the planes fly into the towers...he went to Basnia over in Iraq and caused so much shit, if you have ever seen blackhawk down then thats what it is. We went there cuz the governmet there were awful to there ppl. now are we suppose to be the worlds police or something? NO! that was a bad choice by cliton. so now we got all this lil terrorist pissed off and so they flew planes into the towers. now choose A: go to war a shuve a boot up the middle eastes ass or B: forget about the whole thing and have the terrorist win and go to bed knowing we could be bombed with WMD bombs anymoment.

jonplan, MySpace 34 Comments [9/2/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14436

Jesus said that faith can move a mountain and it surely can. If God gives us the faith that we won't get sick if we drink a pint of hemlock, then we won't get sick, period.

Carico, CARM 71 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14435

[Public schools fall under the state side of the separation of church and state. If you want to create a theocracy then you’ll have to do it somewhere else.]

If you want "seperation" then you are going to have to go elsewhere, can I recommend a few communist countries for you to try out. Our founding fathers began this country as a christian nation. We are not about to allow you to change that now.

The only seperation was that there was to be no state approved church like they had back in europe. In Russia the Orthodox Church was the official church. In Rome the Catholic Church was the official Church. In England the Anglo Church was the official Church.

The Danbury Baptist Association were concerned about that here in American and Thomas Jefferson reassured them that they had nothing to worry about no one was going to restrict or hinder their religious freedom.

Now you and others want to take those very rights away from Christian. The rights that many people have died to give us and that Jefferson worked hard to secure for us. You want to deny us the rights that our ancestors worked hard to secure for us and at times even went to war to secure.

Why should I allow you to take away what they were willing to fight for and even willing to sacrifice their life for? Why should I give up my freedoms today?

JohnR7, Christian Forums 54 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sgeo

Quote# 14434

[About a new law in Ohio where you can be placed on the sexual offenders list without having been convicted of a sex crime]

Maybe the ACLU should defend against acting on suspicions and supposed inferential meanings. It goes on everywhere, including here. And it has got to stop.

Rash judgments of another posts is just as wrong as judging another to be anti-semitic (just because an Orthodox Jew or Lebanese citizen is against the Zionists) or a sexual pervert (just because they are gay). Both can cause loss of employment and are definitely inflammatory.

Our Lord told us not to judge "lest ye yourself be judged."

He also told us that by their fruits you would know them.

So, if someone is caught with pornography on their computer, then that is a problem. Pornography is very dangerous. Isn't it true that almost all serial killers are addicted to porn? Aren't almost all sexual perverts addicted to porn?

If the Ohio law is placing someone on the sexual predator list because the authorities have evidence of hard core porn on their computers or hard core porn magazines in their possession, then this is a valid concern.

Aria, Christianforums.com 36 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: trunks2k

Quote# 14433

Evolution makes no sense at all. I just don't see how any intelligent person could believe such nonsense. I mean, have you ever seen an ape that could be taught to do algebra? No! Other than the most basic skills (which a dog can also be taught), an ape does not have the capacity to learn anywhere near the human level. Apes are dumb! You can say a dog is smart (and it might be), but it can't logic like a human being can.

Furthermore, if we evolved from a lower species, then why is it that the apes didn't evolve in the evolutionary process? Come on folks, you don't need a PHD (post hole digger) to figure this out. Where are all those half man/half ape fossils which should be abundant in the earth's soil layers? They don't exist. This is what is known as the "missing link" by evolutionists. Notice that I didn't call them "scientists" because there is NOTHING scientific about evolution. Science by it's very definition means "the study of." To "study" something, it must be observable. Not only is evolution not observable, it is not testable or repeatable in a lab. Do you realize that evolutionists CANNOT display even ONE single proof of evolution...NOT ONE! Dinosaur fossils don't prove anything except that they existed. Whether dinosaurs existed in Biblical times or during a pre-Adamic period is debatable amongst theologians. Many preachers believe that Lucifer operated a kingdom upon the earth prior to Genesis 1:2. The Bible does support this theory with credible evidence. This is commonly known as the "gap theory." Regardless, the fact that dinosaurs once inhabited this earth adds no credibility to the THEORY of evolution.

Evolution is for stupid people, stupid because they refuse to acknowledge the Word of God in their life. There is NO WAY you can believe the Bible and evolution. But you say, "what about 'theistic evolution' where God created everything and then allowed it to evolve? I'm glad you asked. There is no such teaching found in the Bible. Genesis chapter one is very clear that God created this earth as we know it today in 6 days. "IF" there was a pre-Adamic creation, it was destroyed according to Genesis 1:2. I won't be dogmatic as to whether or not there was a pre-Adamic time period, but the Bible is certainly dogmatic that all life on this earth today was created within the six days of creation. The Bible is very accurate in it's chronology. The Bible dates itself from creation up until the end of the Old Testament. The Bible dates creation at approximately 4,000 B.C. This means that all life on earth today was created about 6,000 years ago! There was no evolutionary process! There is nothing to prove the THEORY of evolution (and that's all evolution really is...a bogus theory).

David J. Stewart, jesus-is-savior.com 67 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sasquatch

Quote# 14430

[I'm sure there are a handful of individuals in the world who believe in the Christian god, are angry at Him, and call themselves "atheists". Let me be the first to tell you that such individuals are not atheists.]

Nonsense, again. The very fact that they call themselves atheist, as the word means "anti theist", is a testimony of their anger of God and Christians, or any other religion that professes the same. Agnostics have more sense than atheists do. Just, how can a rational individual make these claims:

There is no Deity
The soul doesn't exist
There is no After Life

without admitting that it is just out of spite?

You will observe that the so-called atheist is merely anarchist. Trying to do the impossible against Nature's rule of creating a void. The public has already passed judgement on them. Even in the decline of the Protestant's Religion there hasn't been an increase in atheism. They haven't gain a wind fall and remain at around 8% to 10% of the public. Why do you think that is so? Not many wants to become whining Christians who didn't get want they wanted from Christianity and decided to wage an all out war on the idea. Some even lamented and left atheism to join the rest of mankind.

I recommend posters treat them as vultures. You are not going to convince them because they are not open to reasoning. They only pick on the unprepared. Just turn the tables on them and they will scatter when they see a sign of life.

FreddieD, Apologetics.org 29 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14427

In the real world homosexuals (especially males) are generally predatory perverts who wouldn't think twice about bedding a 14 yo boy. You want to think that "Will and Grace" is a realistic picture of homosexuality. You're wrong. It doesn't show the incredibly widespread depression, drug use, disease and utter depravity of teh homosexual fetish community. These are people who are deeply ashamed of thier fetish, but that have been pushed by certain radical elements to publicize thier perversion in order to be more widely accepted. This makes their perversion normal in their eyes and this makes it easier to find someone who will glove up and give 'em the 5-finger anal salute. It makes it easier for them to find willing BOYS to rape. I'll bet that you've never heard about the homosexual counseling clinic in Portland, OR that was shut down because the couselors there (male and female) were using it to hook up with newer and younger victims. It got hushed up by the media and the gov't in Portland because they got threatened with a discrimination lawsuit, so most people have never heard of this event. I can guarantee you, though, if it happened in Portland, it's happening elsewhere. This is just one more piece of evidence of how wrong homosexuality is. I can tell you from painful personal experience that homosexuals are truly screwed up people. Depression, drug use and suicide run rampant among homosexuals. No one talks too much about this small fact, but it's there none-the-less.

Faithful Servant, Free Conservatives 121 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14426

[After nine Scottish firefighters were disiplined after refusing to hand out fire safety leaflets at the Scottish gay pride festival.]

"They were asked, while in uniform, to hand out leaflets during a demonstration where they had legitimate concerns about being the subject of taunts and jokes, and in which in some cases, their religious sensibilities would have been grossly offended by people dressed as priests and nuns lampooning the Church."

He added: "That the officers concerned are being forced to undergo diversity training is alarming. The duty to obey one's conscience is a higher duty than that of obeying orders."

Archbishop Mario Conti of Glasgow, BBC NEWS 28 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Evergreen

Quote# 14425

The world-wide alert of May 25, 2006 was a complete success. On May 25th the U.S. temporarily abandoned their policy of pre-emptive nuclear war, which had been the root cause of the alert. A deadly war with atomic weapons was avoided, or rather, adjourned. This is why, although giant record-sized waves appeared, the mega-tsunami did not occur.

This date of May 25th called upon us to save lives and we courageously managed to do so thanks to each and everyone's doing. That date will thus remain a symbol of our collective consciousness having refused to accept fatality. However, the information war regarding the presence of extraterrestrials on Earth, and of our interaction with them, is only beginning. We must not let down our guard. The danger of a planet-wide "natural" catastrophe, in reaction to the threat which human nuclear weapons pose to the extraterrestrials, remains ongoing. This site invites you to prepare for this catastrophe, all while participating in the fight for truth, a fight which remains the only way to avoid the imminent catastrophe. Thanks for your tremendous participation!

Eric Julien, Save Lives In May 27 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sgeo

Quote# 14424

Why not?

Catholicism is now unwilling to do or say anything about the unhealthy
faggot disease.

Maybe Islam, the fastest growing religion in the world, is the way

In most interpretations of Sharia, the death penalty is applied for
homosexual acts. According to the opinions of scholars, acceptable means
of performing the execution included burning, throwing from tall
buildings, and stoning.


Bobby, alt.atheism 26 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sgeo

Quote# 14423

The holacaust didn't just happen! The Jewies brought it upon themselves.
All you have to do is smell a Nigger and you know why they should DIE!!!
Big lipped fucking porch monkeys.

REMEMBER!!!! The Jews don't accept Jesus so the Damnation is already
written and those niggers worship Satan in the name of Islam.

For further information Contact the White American Coalition on AOL in
the ACLU Area.


Cletis KKK Perkins, alt.atheism 35 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sgeo

Quote# 14422

COLUMBUS - An Ohio legislative panel yesterday rubber-stamped an unprecedented process that would allow sex offenders to be publicly identified and tracked even if they've never been charged with a crime.

No one in attendance voiced opposition to rules submitted by Attorney General Jim Petro's office to the Joint Committee on Agency Rule Review, consisting of members of the Ohio House and Senate.

The committee's decision not to interfere with the rules puts Ohio in a position to become the first state to test a "civil registry."

The concept was offered by Roman Catholic bishops as an alternative to opening a one-time window for the filing of civil lawsuits alleging child sexual abuse that occurred as long as 35 years ago.

A recently enacted law allows county prosecutors, the state attorney general, or, as a last resort, alleged victims to ask judges to civilly declare someone to be a sex offender even when there has been no criminal verdict or successful lawsuit.

The rules spell out how the untried process would work. It would largely treat a person placed on the civil registry the same way a convicted sex offender is treated under Ohio's so-called Megan's Law.

The person's name, address, and photograph would be placed on a new Internet database and the person would be subjected to the same registration and community notification requirements and restrictions on where he could live.

A civilly declared offender, however, could petition the court to have the person's name removed from the new list after six years if there have been no new problems and the judge believes the person is unlikely to abuse again.

The attorney general's office said it continues to hold discussions with a group representing day care operators about one of the rules pertaining to what such facilities would do with information they might receive pertaining to someone on the registry if that person is living nearby.

Ohio State Legislature, toledoblade.com 38 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Hadanelith

Quote# 14421

[*laughs uncontrollably at udsuna's silly superstitions*

Remembers Indigenous Australians have similar beliefs and becomes a bit more respectful.

*starts laughing at udsana's inability to comprehend, physics and natural laws*]

Oh, I understand them fully. I just think you'd have to be insane to believe they're luck. Then again, I've actually felt the Divine. Stood in its presence and there really are no words for it. I'd say I saw the "Face of God" but for all I know it was the left elbow. Either way, it's beyond any mortal to describe. And I'm only one of billions to have experienced it. I won't claim to have been worthy of the event. Nothing of this flesh and blood world is. But I felt it and did not recoil. I assure you, it's real, even if you're too blind to see it. But then again, you people hide in a forum like this where you can all pat one another on the backs and tell yourselves you're right despite all sence to the contrary. No one could be stupid enough to call this a fair population sample.

Udsuna, FSTDT.com 33 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14420

Since atheists like to bitch so much about theists, why don't you guys
start buying land where you can create your atheist paradise on earth?
I suspect it would be a Communist paradise.

Tuco Ramirez, alt.atheism 38 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sgeo

Quote# 14419

[If there really was a subject called Creation Science, how would you teach it?]





* Be able to explain the Six Days of Creation as conveyed to us from God in Genesis 1.
* Be able to explain the difference in the order of God's Creation vis-a-vis the order of Evolution.
* Be able to define and support/refute the major sub-doctrines associated with the Six Days of Creation (Water Canopy, Day-Age Theory, Gap Theory).


* Weeks 1 and 2 = What was created and when.
* Weeks 3 and 4 = The difference in the order of appearance.
* Weeks 5 and 6 = Studying applied theories.

CREDITATION: Certificate upon successful completion.

AV1611VET, Christian Forums 31 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14418

Without Western thought and civilization, whose backbone is Christianity, the world would be a dark place. Islam, liberalism, and Eastern philosophy and civilization have brought nothing good to the world, only evil. They are the forces of regression. They attempt to rob the world of all the progress Western Christianity has brought.

Democrats, of course, laud such religions, philosophies, and civilizations because they want to bring down America and the West.

Al, WorldMagBlog 32 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 14417

Ok take all your facts through your knowledge and then think of the things that are unexplained that leaves your facts hanging in the wind. Then look at the efforts you make to prove it anyways. That is faith; believing in something you can not understand or see.
Christians have a book that has been handed down through thousands of years; that people have died for; lived their whole life for; and can not be persuaded otherwise. Not the book itself but the inspired word of God. God Himself.

God gives me affirmations of my faith through my life; what affirmations do you get in the faith you have? I mean because you can not explain the origin of everything; what inspires you to keep believing it.

How many atheist have died or has taken as much criticism for what they believe in. The opposing force is always the non believer; although they do get caught up in the wrath of God at times; when they do attack the Christians. Definitely not a force to be reckoned with.
What have you shown?

Other than a bunch of theories based off of other theories that has been dismissed as NOT FACT.

I have went into great detail with you where I derive my answers from.

I will show this to you though.


In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

Prove He didnt!

I can't.

As you go through that chapter it explains how this perfect order is dependant on other things He created and how we multiply and that it come about by Him saying so.

Proof is in the creation.

Anything else dating back that far explain anything different; or that has not been changed since.

The Bible still stands on God created it.

Your theories have changed more than i change socks in a lifetime. Which is sometimes twice a day.

Maybe one day man will get it right. It was not a problem in the beginning of time.

Yet man with all his knowledge now thinks he has superceded the existence of a all knowing God.

What a waste.


Paul, Myspace 35 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jesse

Quote# 14416

My contradiction is that burden of proof is not to prove anything.
It is to prove it does not exist; once it is admitted as a belief.

Let me get the crayolas out! Ill draw a picture for ya.

In the Bible; it states God created everything. God is as real to me; as the keyboard I am typing with. I believe in God.

Your choice is to believe otherwise; yet you can not prove that God does not exist; nor the fact that He created everything.

The burden is not on me because I do not have a problem with believing in God.

I do not have to prove anything to you about God.

What else can be said.

The argument is not forcing you to do anything nor am I.

I am stating what I believe in.

I can show you where it is backed up in the Bible.

Yet the genral population of non -believers do not accept this as evidence.

Well I do not accept science's answers as an explanation of how creation come about.

It does explain the study of something existing; but does not explain how it came into existence.
The Bible does.

To say the Bible is a lie; requires proof.

So the burden is not on those that believe in God.

Paul, Myspace 38 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jesse

Quote# 14410

<a href="http://chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/4151779.html" target="_blank">Fort Worth pastor indicted on rape under guise of casting out demons</a>

Owens told her that a sex spirit and lesbian demon were inside her and needed to be cast out, police said. The pastor then asked her to lie on the floor and began yelling at her as if she were a demon, saying, "Loose her in the name of Jesus," according to an arrest warrant affidavit.

Leonard Owens, Houston Chronicle 31 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Bone_Vulture

Quote# 14408

He is "the dragon" and "the serpent," both titles linking him to his role in the fall of man. He appeared to Eve in the form of a serpent, doubtless in the body of a serpent he had possessed. It is unlikely that a being so pretentious as the devil would choose as his mouthpiece an ordinary snake. Indeed, "serpent" can refer to any reptile. The reptile he deemed a suitable embodiment of himself was "the dragon," an ancient name for the sort of creatures we know as dinosaurs.

Ed Rickard, Bible Studies at the Moorings 17 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 14407

Why is it that spiders could spin and weave a million years ago, but they try to say people could only spin or weave 20,000 years ago.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 68 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Theironpaperclip

Quote# 14404

Many years ago I stood up against the teaching of evolution at my school. I refused to go along with the bunk, and today (since I believed in Jesus then, but was not saved) I may have done even more. On those papers and such, I wrote what the teacher wanted, and then put that it is a lie as God created everything. God said and it was so! I put bible verses at the top and off to the sides. Before we compromised in that way, I stood up several times and preached to the class that the bible says...and God created. I spoke about Noah and the rainbow. Evolution is a big lie and it is certainly not scientific!

vinsight4u8, bibleforums.org 35 Comments [9/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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