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Quote# 31691

(So? The root of the word "gay" is that of being happy and joyful.

Words change over time, and so do their meanings!)

In that you are quite wrong. Words do not change meanings. When someone is trying to corrupt the language they are always trying to hide the true intent of their agenda. Saying that black means white will never make black be white, it only confuses the issue.

BustedFlat, foru.ms 41 Comments [11/28/2007 11:21:56 AM]
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Submitted By: george

Quote# 31693

You raise a valid point. I love the story of Creation and have researched it, so I'll admit an 'eye witness account' couldn't be by anyone but God Himself, or Adam.

In the past there has been controversy about whether Moses actually wrote the book of Genesis, or plagiarized it from the accounts of Creation and the flood taken from early documents of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Enoch, Isaac, and Jacob. (did I leave anyone out?)

However now ancient writings have been found in the Middle East dating back as far as 3500 B.C. which would be when Adam was still alive. No one even knew that writing went back that far! I think that's so neat.

So anyway, since Adam was alive during that period of time, he very well could have written the accounts as he knew it of Creation, making it a 'first hand account', which proves that these documents were passed on from one generation to the next, and put together into one book called the BOOK OF GENESIS! Cool, huh?

SandraJ, Meridian Star Forums 39 Comments [11/28/2007 10:41:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Lance Choad

Quote# 31687

God has promised to preserve His Holy Word unto all generations which would include ours. God is not the author of confusion, thus the entire textual criticism arguments are against that simple truth. Most dangerous is the current emphasis on studying the “original” languages from current lexicons which have unfortunately been corrupted. What a shame to spend so much time trying to find the “truth” of the Bible in an earthly corrupt lexicon, when God has already provided a pure text in English for all to read, study and memorize already.

EndTimes, CSE blogs 38 Comments [11/28/2007 7:32:22 AM]
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Quote# 31688

* The King James Bible contains God's built-in dictionary, defining each word, in its context, using the very words of the Webster's and Oxford English Dictionaries!
* The King James Bible has a vocabulary and reading level which slowly builds progressively from Genesis to Revelation.
* The King James Bible uses words with the appropriate sound symbolism. It has a vocabulary that phonaesthetically fulfills the Bible's own description of itself as "powerful."
* The King James Bible is the only extant access we have to the pure language lexicons of the 16th and 17th centuries.
* The King James Bible gives a transparent view of the Greek and Hebrew vocabulary, grammar and syntax.
* The King James Bible has internationally recognizable vocabulary and spelling.
* The King James Bible uses literary devices which enhance doctrinally important concepts and memorability.
* The King James Bible has a sentence structure which enhances accurate doctrinal interpretation.
* The King James Bible's words and sentences are patterned and woven through its fabric so as to provide a consistency of form and content.
* The King James Bible has the precision and longevity of the legal document that it is.

Gail Riplinger, chick.com 80 Comments [11/28/2007 7:32:06 AM]
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Quote# 31685

I stand behind fully capable and professional scientists that sound alot more plausible and in line with scripture imo.
tossing around scientific lingo doesn't impress me much - I hear both sides going at it and you may as well be speaking in Chinese; when nonscientific people hear 2 opposing scientific experts going at it, it doesn't convey one is more correct than the other becuz they are ignorant of the science itself.
Apply Bible text to it, and then some can start making better assessments. & some may never know or come to any conclusion.
and that's Ok too.

Thankfully none of us have to know science of any kind to be a born again Christian, so I don't divide on that merit.

Nadiine, Nadiine.foru.ms 24 Comments [11/28/2007 6:35:25 AM]
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Submitted By: cui bono

Quote# 31681

Why do many denominations ordain women as pastors considering Jesus only chose men as his apostles and Paul's teachings on women not speaking in church? I have never understood this as it seems to me like it disregards Biblical teachings.

go~in~peace, Rapture Ready 29 Comments [11/28/2007 6:14:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Harpwn

Quote# 31682

[Scientific Theory - very similar to a scientific law, it is an explanation of many sets of related observations made by many different researchers, the difference between a law and a theory is that a law governs one single action, a theory explains a whole group of related events.]

This is the great lie the evolution purveyors tell us.This was never a proper definition of theory until the last 30 years or so. As I said in that other post, the root of the word "theory" in Attic Greek is that of an unproven hypothesis, something that is "pretended" for the sake of argument. The evolution fraud has a tremendous amount of influence in all realms of society, because Merriam-Webster doesn't even give the etymology of the English word or its Greek root, as it commonly does for almost every other word that comes to our language from another. That is downright scary, to a certain extent, because it means the evolution fraud is actually a conspiracy against God, and is intended ultimately to displace Him with "good loving kind" concepts of a fallen race, a race that has no hope without Jesus Christ but which will never know that if the gospel is swamped and sunk by this ludicrous pack of lies disguised as "science."

IisJustMe, Foru.ms 35 Comments [11/28/2007 12:56:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Zoe

Quote# 31679

I believe more poeple have been killed in the name of atheism any other religion. Stalin murdered millions to create a godless Soviet Union, Mao murdered millions in communist China, in the name of atheism. If the athiests believe God is just a myth, why do they expend so energy trying to eliminate Him from society. I believe Santa and the Easter Bunny are myths, but I don't demand removal of all references to them. It seems to me you are not just athiests, you are anti-theists. There is a difference.

Desperado, The Chron (newspaper) 41 Comments [11/28/2007 12:50:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Ranger Joe

Quote# 31678

(Note the automatic assumption, despite the admitted lack of evidence.)

Think atheistic, elite professors should have more power? A tenured Ivy League professor just admitted that he killed his wife, and then falsely made it look like a burglary. The article did not disclose his religious views, but did say he will receive a light prison sentence "of no more than seven years" for his crime.

Conservapedia (main page), Conservapedia 31 Comments [11/28/2007 12:47:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Doctor Whom

Quote# 31675

In a nutshell, my father, mother and brother all at about the same time (during Thanksgiving dinner) said that no matter what religion you are, there is ONE GOD and ALL RELIGIONS (if they do good in thier religion that is) have the same God and will go to Heaven. My dad can't get past the "what if someone from a little village never heard of Jesus........". My mother thinks the Bible has been translated so many times over and over that not everything is correct. And my brother said "yes a muslim will go to Heaven just like we will, as long as he does good". I TRY talking to them without arguing. I TRY explaining what I know, but it always ends up with "well anyway, lets not get into that right now........lets eat Turkey !" OR whatever...you get what Im sayin. THEN......I brought all this up to my husband and he started with "Well Im not too keen on the whole HELL thing, I mean why would a loving God send ANYONE to hell"? So, I just really DO NOT KNOW how to talk to any of them. I bought my dad the book The Case For Christ, but he never read it. I thought my mom was saved, but now I wonder. Same with my husband...now I don't know where he's at with Jesus. Ugh. Are there any websites? stories? emails? anything...? I can send them? I will tell you this too. It made me feel very alone. Very very alone. Like I am crazy...and who-am-I-to-think-this-is-the-only-way-to-Heaven. Help.

bergie38, Rapture Ready 62 Comments [11/28/2007 12:20:46 AM]
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Quote# 31684

Annie said: "... there had to be a sun before there
were trees"

Right, but the trees in the fossil record older than
40,000 years ago didn't have to have had the same sun
that we have today. The cataclysm, such as a comet
strike, could have knocked the earth out of its
proper orbit around another sun and sent the earth
wandering into interstellar space. The trees which
God miraculously restored to the earth (Genesis
1:11-13) after the cataclysm did have a temporary
light source (Genesis 1:3-5) which could have
supported photosynthesis; even if it didn't, the
trees could have easily survived for one day until a
new sun was created for the restored earth (Genesis

Read the Bible, Atheism vs. Christianity 52 Comments [11/28/2007 12:02:47 AM]
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Quote# 31680

The Global Warming movement is a cult. It askews people's views, and creates a movement that includes New Agers and Environmentalist. Their view has nothing to do with Christian stewartship of the Earth and it's inhabitance it's based on the goddess concept and evidently our environment is affected by of all things, now hodl on to your hats folks, cause this one is going to blow you away. But aparently our enviroment is affected by...sin! Yes I know that it's hard to believe, but it has been proven that sin is the cause of Natural Disasters and yes, Global Warming! Shocking isn't it? Since the creation and fall of Adam and Eve, we have been progressing toward this end time scenerio...now, is the time that all good Christians to turn their hearts and mind back to the Creator....


bulldozer, RaptureReady 32 Comments [11/27/2007 11:24:02 PM]
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Quote# 31677

If you didn't know it, the Earth is the center of the Universe. It is written in the colors of the stars. The stars and their galaxies give off a red light shift away from their natural color because they are all moving away from the Earth. So no matter where a telescope looks in the uniform sky, the galaxies are all moving away from us. How could this be? Well, it's simply because the Lord created the Earth and our Sun and all the stars (other suns) using the Earth as the Center of Creation. From this central hub, the galaxies are moving away, causing a red light shift. There is no other explanation.

When you also check out the Scriptures of the Creator, you’ll note that the Earth is NOT just another planet among the billions of planets the Lord has made. It was here, and not in some far-flung galaxy, where the Lord of All Creation was born and crucified. It is here that the Lord of Lords brings down his ETERNAL CITY, New Jerusalem. There is no other Savior in the Universe--only Jesus.

We are not situated on just a planet in the sand of the seashores of all heavenly bodies; we are on the Earth which is the center of the whole Universe. This is what the WORD says and what science proves.

David Jay Jordan, The Earth is the Center of the Universe 41 Comments [11/27/2007 11:22:22 PM]
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Quote# 31674

There are two things I do that I wonder if I'm the only one in the world who does these.

1. In a store, getting my stuff rang up and it comes out to $6.66, I always ask if they can change the price...most do it, either a penny up or down.

2. If I have a Bible set on a desk, I never put my wallet on top of it...well anything else either, because I feel that doing that might be a message that I value those items more than the Word.

Anyone else have any odd quirks??

FrankBeMe, Rapture Ready 63 Comments [11/27/2007 11:20:38 PM]
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Quote# 31676

[getting all worked up about the Pullman's movie, the entire thread is a freaking gold mine...this board is spin-off of Rapture Ready]

Just watched the trailer...I don't think that this movie will flop, it will be the next Lord of the Rings, and it is a trilogy. Much prayer will be needed to keep children from going to this movie.

bazza, Prophecy Fellowship Forums 29 Comments [11/27/2007 11:18:27 PM]
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Submitted By: the_ignored

Quote# 31667

[It's more sad than anything else.]

I just can't wait until Jesus comes again......I'm soooo impatient....I just can't wait until I'm happy again...

cbressler1976, Rapture Ready 70 Comments [11/27/2007 9:34:31 PM]
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Quote# 31672


I hope this movie is big. If so, it might just open up the eyes of some of the masses who've been completely and totally dumbed down by the scientific community. If there's one thing ToE can't stand, it's an informed, educated public....a public that knows the whole story -- both sides -- not just one. As this documentary reveals, there's a very good reason why darwinists are so hostile towards creationists and IDists.....but I won't spoil it here....it's in the clip.

supersport, CARM 29 Comments [11/27/2007 9:32:40 PM]
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Quote# 31671

“Received your book ‘Created to be his Help Meet’ and have let the Lord give me a grateful heart towards my ‘Steady’ man. I just told my mom the other day about this book, and that I could no longer talk negatively about my husband. After 2 days of a changed attitude, he went and bought me a brand-new vacuum cleaner, even though I was willing to take a secondhand one. I was tickled pink! I am very thankful that the Lord has given me a chance, and has put a woman like you to teach us younger women. In fact, I am so grateful, that yesterday I wept!”
~ S

S, Created To Be His Helpmeet 40 Comments [11/27/2007 9:02:34 PM]
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Quote# 31668

Jewish Food Tax

On every pantry shelf in America, lay dozens of canned and packaged food products which have a tiny "K" or "U" printed on the label.

This symbol informs Orthodox Jews that the items have been checked by a rabbi, to make sure that they have been prepared in accordance with "Jewish Dietary law", as set forth in the Jewish Talmud -(the real "bible" of the Jews.)

American food companies are forced to pay multi-billions of dollars to several Orthodox Jewish organizations, just so an estimated 10% to 20% of Jewry, (or 800,000 to no more than 1.2 million Orthodox Jews), will buy their products. Please bear in mind that this is a country of 270 million people, and we are all forced to pay this Kosher Tax, just to appease LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE POPULATION!

This comes out of your pocket !

Beware: Each nation has its own symbol. Check in local Jewish publications, to find out what mark of the beast, is being used in your own country.

This is strictly a religious tax, which millions of non-Jews unknowingly pay each time they buy a basket load of groceries! What would happen if a group of Christian ministers or priests got together, and demanded that all companies pay them a similar tax? They could use a "C," symbol (for Christian), or a cross, (for Christ), threatening that those who refuse to print such a label on their products would be boycotted by Christians.

If that happened you would hear an enraged outcry from the ACLU, American Jewish Committee, Jewish Anti-Defamation League, etc. They would be filing suits to stop this "violation of the Constitutional provisions providing for the separation of Church and State." But, because of the Jews' centuries old claim of being "a poor persecuted people" along with the Christian fear of being accused of "anti-Semitism," there is a deafening silence on this problem. Note: Modern Jews are not Semites, or the Jews of the Bible.

FullofFaith, FSTDT Message Board 34 Comments [11/27/2007 9:02:03 PM]
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Submitted By: David D.G.

Quote# 31670

Creationists will not have any problem with this. The whole story is full of ifs buts and maybes. Unlike the Bible, which hasn't changed.

John Palfrey, Times Online 22 Comments [11/27/2007 8:37:37 PM]
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Quote# 31665

Okay a very interesting story, someone was talking about the "unforgiveable sin", well my mind starting cursing by itself at the holy spirit, and I went DEAD COLD, I was just in shock! It is quite difficult to control demons, but I rebuke them with Jesus Christ Laughing I thought God forsake me and I was going straight to hell...

Well I asked God to show me a sign or anything if he still loves me, and guess what!!! My cat that was lost for over 5 months was found, and my nintendo DS games which I thought my step brother stole I found!!!


DevonR, thewaythetruth.com 47 Comments [11/27/2007 5:58:51 PM]
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Quote# 31663

earth to Mark....science very rarely admits its wrong....about anything. Scientists don't like showing up their comrads.....it's a little game they play: "I won't step on your toes if you don't step on mine." And your little challenge, the way it is worded, is virtually impossible to beat because the way science generally dates rocks is by the fossils they find in them. Therefore, there is almost no way to prove circular reasoning because re-dating a fossil has nothing to do with the dating of the rock -- it's all about assumptions made on the date of the fossil. I'm sure fossils are redated all the time -- but it's not because the rock changed or that they misdated the rock because of the rock it was in ------ they just simply re-date the fossil whenever they want, plain and simple.

Supersport, CARM 37 Comments [11/27/2007 5:27:16 PM]
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Submitted By: Scienceman123

Quote# 31654

Correction: the Muslim Arab terrorists are part of the Jihad, but there are millions involved in Africa, (Against Christians in S. Sudan and Black Muslims in Darfur, Somalia, Libya,Eqypt,etc.)Asia(Indonesia, Phillipines and Malaysia,and South Asia,(already pointed out in India, also Kashmir, Afganistan, Iran,etc) who not Arabs.
This is a spiritual enemy (anti-Christ), who are economic Marxists, rising up all over the globe and will align with the secular humanists (anti-God)who are politically commununists and economic Marxists(China, Russia,N.Korea) Jihadistan stretches from Morroco to the Philiipines also known as the 10/40 window.The Bible decribes the current condition of the world in perfect detail because it is history in reverse (prophecy decribes events before they happen)for more:www.persecution.org
Hint Jews and Christians are not the problem here.

SEEHAWK, Townhall.com 26 Comments [11/27/2007 3:24:55 PM]
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Quote# 31662

Genesis is literal. It is not only literal in context, but its language is scientific, within the scope of the original Hebrew. Sorry, but you really don't have a grasp of the reality of God's word. Yes, I just called into question your scholarship, which is sorely lacking.

IisJustMe, Foru.ms 25 Comments [11/27/2007 3:24:34 PM]
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Submitted By: Daecon

Quote# 31657

[supersport demonstrates that he always does his research]

So Derwood, who doesn't believe the mind can accomplish anything -- at least his can't because he doesn't believe he has one that can accomplish anything constructive -- how exactly does the placebo effect work....you know, where your thoughts and belief's cure disease? do you believe in such a thing, or do you just play the denial game with that too? And if you don't play the denial game, what exactly is this MECHANISM for the placebo effect. If you care to answer that you will have your answer as to what the MECHANISM is for the mind generating new, adaptive physical traits....you know, that "mechanism" that science is chicken to test? I would suggest whatever strange entity is responsible for the placebo effect is the same strange entity responsible for new, adaptive physical traits in organisms.


supersport, CARM 38 Comments [11/27/2007 1:53:20 PM]
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