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Quote# 31591

...I believe evolutionary science is full of intellectual chickens. This type of experiment should have been conducted thousands of times by now -- maybe millions of times in the past 100 years. Yet, not even ONCE has it been. And you know why??? -- it's because what we are dealing with is pure evil. Darwinism is the root of all evil and these individuals are not only afraid of the truth, but they react badly to it. They are afraid of experiments that might overthrow their precious kook Darwinian roadside bomb, mental parasite, circus-monkey of a theory...

Supersport, CARM 36 Comments [11/25/2007 9:20:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Scienceman123
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Quote# 31583

(Re: Hillary Clinton)

Devils never entered your mind? This bitch is CHOCKER-BLOCK FULL OF THEM!!

Expect more such things to occur. May more & more of these demon-possessed pigs be exposed for what & who they truly are: SERVANTS OF SATAN.

apostledbm , YouTube 39 Comments [11/25/2007 8:13:58 AM]
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Quote# 31586

[How to respond to an unbeliever's arguments...]

Give them nothing except the certainty that you love them in the name of Jesus Christ. Tell them what Jesus has done in your life - not what THEY are doing wrong, etc. Finally, let them know that you are praying for them and then really be doing just that. [...]

Do NOT pray that they are happy, safe, have perfect lives, etc, but instead pray that having heard the gospel, that they are then hammered by the Holy Spirit. Pray that they are broken to where they see their need for Jesus and wisely CHOOSE it. The world has a way of bribing the unsaved with material excess and other distractions. Some disruption and even pain is what brings people to the cross and the one who took all of our places upon that terrible thing.


Dreams of Rising, Rapture Ready 45 Comments [11/25/2007 7:31:16 AM]
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Quote# 31582

The Bible teaches that sin poisons everything.

These recent atheist bestsellers are becoming tiresome.

Because people often have a perspective on God that is very similar to their personal relationship with their own father, Atheism is a form of mental illness and emotional distress rooted in a bad relationship with your human father, then projected onto God as the ultimate authority and father figure.

All the most famous atheists have had terrible relationships with their fathers and deeply resent them, are angry at them, etc. Look up Madalyn Murray O'Hair, the woman who got prayer outlawed in public schools--bad father relationship. The same goes for Bertrand Russell, the most influential atheist author of the last century. If you are an atheist, look at your own life. See the pattern?

I know this to be true, because I used to be the same way before I got Saved by Jesus. You can get Saved, too, and you will lose your animosity towards God, and start enjoying your life for a change.

I challenge the reader to research this author, Christopher Hitchens, and find out about his family relations. I have, and I read that he has poor family relations and he drinks way too much alcohol. Is that true? Is this a great mind to be reading, learning from, and following? Not hardly!

Bryan E. Leed "Jesus says, 'Go and Sin No More!", Amazon.com 54 Comments [11/25/2007 6:46:46 AM]
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Quote# 31589

The mayor of an Arkansas town resigned on Wednesday, claiming he was abducted and brainwashed by Satan worshipers nearly three decades ago.

(Story and Video at link)

Ken Williams/Don LaRouche(?), WFTV9 32 Comments [11/25/2007 6:45:51 AM]
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Quote# 31585

I don't know. Yes, we all have our cross to bear, but the struggle to keep "faithful eyes" at least involves God's master plan for men to desire women. The man-woman bond is part of God's beautiful plan and God wants us to find pleasure in the other sex (within marriage of course).

Homosexuals, on the other hand, are a deviation of the natural order. There is nothing in God's plan that allows for one man to find another man attractive. Honestly, I don't see how women find men attractive, but I guess God made it come to be like this, because that's His plan.

By being so different from the natural order, and from what scripture tells us, it's not unreasonable to believe that homosexuality is influenced by demonic forces or possibly a result of the rejection of God. Most atheists are homosexuals, and when you reject Jesus, it seems like that would open one up to Satanic influence.
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freed_from_sin, Rapture Ready 45 Comments [11/25/2007 6:37:56 AM]
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Submitted By: bunbuns
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Quote# 31587

What the crap!!! There is NO SUCH THING as a hermaprodite. that is a bunch of BS!!!! God eaither made you a man or woman not both! Also Homosexuality is WRONG!!! The Bible says that God despises it!!

Caitlin A., Facebook's "Protect Marriage" cause 47 Comments [11/25/2007 6:37:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Erin G.
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Quote# 31578

As for the formative processes of chert…well I guess the Genesis account is all we can go with. If only we could teach the controversy.

Ganf, CSE blogs 22 Comments [11/25/2007 3:04:52 AM]
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Quote# 31574

[What to do if you're trapped in an evolution class]

There are some creationists who advise students to counter with “were you there?” but this is a bad idea. For one thing AiG (per above) does not practice this strategy with persons they are interested in attaining. They kept Jason Lisle’s beliefs a secret, publishing articles by him under a pseudonym until after he completed his degree.

Also, the fourth grade teacher knows the fifth and sixth grade teachers. If a young student (rebelliously?) challenges his or her teacher with “Were you there?” it could easily be answered: “No, and neither were you. So quiet down and listen to what the experts teach us.” Is it a good thing for Christian students to get bad science grades when they may actually be good at science? If the fourth, fifth, and sixth grade teachers decide to reward the “fittest” and to punish the “less fit” to survive, then a student who asks, “Were you there?” may never want to learn about real science in the future.

pabramson, CSE blogs 34 Comments [11/25/2007 1:18:28 AM]
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Quote# 31576

Faith MUST come before knowledge. Character must come before knowledge. To educate a man beyond his character is to produce an educated fool. To educate a man who lacks faith in God is to produce an educated heathen. The public school system produces educated heathen fools. Young children who should be taught about God are instead brainwashed with evolution and worldly philosophies. Oh! but you say, "Parents are supposed to teach their children about faith and character." That's like saying that you should push and pull at the same time. The arguments presented by the advocates of public education are as senseless and lame as is their educational system. No child, I don't care how good a home they come from, is going to develop properly in a heathen learning environment! You can't teach a child at home that God created all people, and then expect that child to go learn from some heathen teacher that we all evolved from a lower life-form of life, without there being confusion and spiritual conflict. It is difficult on a child's mind to live in a Christian home, and then have to attend a godless learning prison like the public school system.

David J. Stewart, Jesus-is-Savior.com 31 Comments [11/25/2007 1:17:24 AM]
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Quote# 31563

Using gematria, America's 310 years of burning amounts to 4(3 + 1 + 0 = 4). The four represents the four sons of Horus, four cardinal signs, four directions, four fundamental chakras, four elements (air, fire, water and earth) and four "wives" of Islam.

American's "burning" symbolizes the kundalini heat that ignites the chakra centers at the heart (Leo/fire), throat (Taurus/earth), sex organs (Scorpio/water) and third eye (Aquarius/Air).

The 690 years of cooling amounts to the number 15(6 + 9 + 0 = 15) and describes the meditator's eventual return to normal breathing patterns and the cooling down of the kundalini heat. The 15 becomes the number 6 (1 +5 = 6) which, according to Elijah Muhammad, is the number of creation (Cf. Theology of Time by Elijah Muhammad).

In later writings, Mr. Muhammad discussed the Mothership in nearly astrological terms. He discussed the wheel (solar system) within the wheel (galaxy). In that respect the wheel refers to the circular movement of chi in the Microcosmic Orbit.

All of the Nation of Islam teachings are symbolic, even those which sound distinctly political or economic in nature. The symbolism is the power within the teachings -- which Mr. Muhammad called "the germ" -- that has such an attractive force upon many people. Master Fard Muhhamad used to call those teachings "mathematical theology."

Amir Fatir, Amir Fatir 37 Comments [11/25/2007 1:17:07 AM]
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Quote# 31573

Everywhere we go in America today, we hear rock-n-roll. From kids shows to Fox News, we hear demonic rock-n-roll. Carefully notice that the rockers of yesterday have become American idols, legends, in these modern times. They are our idols, whom we look up to as American heroes. This is evil. Turn on any of the late night shows, whether it be Conan O'Brien or Jay Leno, and you'll find that these shows center around rock-n-roll. Our modern American culture has become a rock-n-roll culture. The military uses heavy metal extensively to lure young men into the armed forces. Our troops blast demonic heavy metal as they charge into battle to ruthlessly kill. Why am I saying all this? Because I want you to see that rock-n-roll is the driving force behind fornication, which is the cause of tens-of-millions of unwanted babies in America, which are being maliciously murdered by a selfish and adulterous generation. Abortion is a vile sin, it is murder.

David J. Stewart, Jesus-is-Savior.com 81 Comments [11/25/2007 1:13:53 AM]
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Quote# 31571

(title: Catholic bishops say voters' souls at stake)

Proclaiming a sense of new energy and empowerment, the nation's Roman Catholic bishops on Wednesday issued instructions to Catholic voters that their eternal salvation could be at stake when they cast ballots.

Bishops emphasized that voters must consider the church's teachings on abortion and other moral issues when they select a candidate for the White House or any other office. If they don't, bishops said, it's not clergy who will judge them but God.

"It is important to be clear that the political choices faced by citizens have an impact on general peace and prosperity and also the individual's salvation," the bishops said in the document, titled "Faithful Citizenship." "Similarly, the kinds of laws and policies supported by public officials affect their spiritual well-being."

Some Catholic bishops, Chicago Tribune 38 Comments [11/25/2007 1:13:20 AM]
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Quote# 31579

For thousands of years EVERYONE still remembered the Great Flood. Even up until the 19th and 20th Century peoples around the world - still remembered that their ancestors from long ago came from the few survivors of the Flood.

Let’s skip forward to modern times.

What does the anti-Christ need to have in place before he can assume power?


I believe that one thing he needs in place is an ANTI-history. A believed history - that he comes as the answer for perceived history and needs.

Evolution provides the foundation for this anti-history. It replaces our true human history with a believed fake history that has nothing to do with what really happened - but it is believed. “Myth-ions and myth-ions of years ago…” the story of deception goes.

P.A., CSEblogs 29 Comments [11/25/2007 1:12:13 AM]
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Quote# 31575

I was in wikipedia today and scanned the history of the trying of Brother Hovind. I found it interesting that alledgedly a Christian sister by the name of Horton at a Christian university was the one to turn him in on supposed tax evasion for the his ministry operations. It made me think we should definitely be looking up (as well as over our shoulder) being that the 3rd and 4th to the final sign given in Matthew is that “Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.” Matthew 24:9-10 ALSO: Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against [their] parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all [men] for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Mark 13:12-13 (also next to the last sign before the end).

mollypitcher, CSE blogs 30 Comments [11/25/2007 12:26:35 AM]
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Quote# 31577

[in answer to the post about redwood trees growing in the Arctic circle]

Even before the Flood there probably wouldn’t have been enough sunlight to grow those trees at the poles. The answer to that is that the earth rolled, beginning at the end of the Flood.

The Welders Wife, CSE bvlogs 42 Comments [11/25/2007 12:05:25 AM]
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Quote# 31564

Viewed in this light, we can see that atheism is simply a form of racism.

This is actually not surprising. Atheists tend to be eugenicists, which is to say, they tend to be racists. Christians do not wish to “breed a race of thoroughbreds”, as Margaret Sanger urged. American Christians may have enslaved blacks, but English Christians, and subsequently American Christians, were also at the forefront of the abolition movement. Catholic Christianity invented the orphanage, the university and largely invented the hospital. Because Christians who live Christian Faith care for the well-being of every man, Christians improve every man. Contrast this to the atheists, who simply write off large segments of humanity as insufficiently well-endowed by genes or circumstance, unworthy of the social resources necessary to maintain them.

For a logically consistent atheist, altruism enables mediocrity. There are people whose best will never even approach adequacy; investing resources into these people is a dead loss from an atheistic economic perspective.

Steve Kellmeyer, News by us, not news bias 37 Comments [11/25/2007 12:02:16 AM]
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Submitted By: mischief
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Quote# 31562

DEAR MARGO: We have one grandson to carry on the family name, and he refuses to find a wife. We've explained to him that it's the Lord's plan that we all marry and that he's cheating some poor girl out of her special day, but the boy will not listen. We've heard that Native Americans have arranged marriages. My husband is one-quarter Cherokee. How would we go about arranging a marriage for our grandson?

Concerned Grandmother, Dear Margo 31 Comments [11/24/2007 10:11:34 PM]
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Quote# 31570

None of my daughters or their husbands asked the state of Tennessee for permission to marry. They did not yoke themselves to government. It was a personal, private covenant, binding them together forever—until death. So when the sodomites have come to share in the state marriage licenses, which will eventually be the law, James and Shoshanna will not be in league with those perverts. And, while I am on the subject, there will come a time when faithful Christians will either revoke their state marriage licenses and establish an exclusively one man-one woman covenant of marriage, or, they will forfeit the sanctity of their covenant by being unequally yoked together with perverts.

mike pearl,  no hreater joy 40 Comments [11/24/2007 9:25:31 PM]
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Quote# 31547


I believe that God can call a woman to preach/teach his word. But I don't believe that a woman can handle being a Pastor of a church. (I didn't say God can't call them to Pastor) It is a huge responsablity. Christian men have broad shoulders, it seems they can carry a load better than women. After all it is the men that must work by the sweat of their brow. The Pastor's wife has a big part to play, for it works hand-n-hand.


Rebecca, ChristiaNet 31 Comments [11/24/2007 9:06:54 PM]
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Quote# 31560

[this user has many FSTDT worthy posts in the comments]

"...And WE, christians, have prove that the things in the bible actually happen. And you you wanna know something else? The bible is historically acurate, and most historians hate to admit that but it's true and they acutally use the bible to chronicle events. So shut up, cuz the only thing you are doing is cussing and giving no argument, but that's because you don't have any and the only thing you can do is cuss. Open your eyes, everything is spelling it out, there is a creator!"

greenyahoo, YouTube 23 Comments [11/24/2007 9:03:09 PM]
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Quote# 31555

Evolution is a lie and it is racist. If it is not why don't you post some videos rubutting the Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists? Are you a coward? Have some courage and investigate your leader Darwin.

MagnussMatt, YouTube 25 Comments [11/24/2007 8:53:34 PM]
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Submitted By: Maronan
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Quote# 31550

"You use an example of a clock and some sort of microscopic organism to explain why evolution cannot occur with anything which is not alive. However, you show an example of evolution you made with a lifeless cartoon. This invalidates your claim. Evolution is racist anyway. If evolution were true then why did the whites have such technology beyond the Africans and Native Americans to build Europe while the poor Indians and Blacks lived in grass huts?

MagnussMatt, YouTube 36 Comments [11/24/2007 8:48:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Maronan
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Quote# 31561

The universe is geocentric during the day because you cant travel where the light shines from and geocentric at night because the earth is the best place from which to view the stars (God has arranged them for viewing from earth).

I am speaking practically, of course (I doubt you will ever find a person who productively uses a heliocentric model of the universe - this is the only habitable place in the solar system for a start!).

Gottservant , Foru.ms 42 Comments [11/24/2007 3:40:50 PM]
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Submitted By: EnemyPartyII
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Quote# 31543

I am not sure why you add 'beating wives', as if that is something bad. The Holy Scriptures state man shall rule over the woman - open ended. There is no restriction on this rulership, thus 'beating wives', when necessary, is OK & necessary at times to maintain proper rulership/headship of the Man in his home.

apostledbm, youtube 76 Comments [11/24/2007 3:27:33 PM]
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