Quote# 32193

Will women be turned to males in heaven? I have my opinion on this, but I'll tell it later.

JMorrow, teens-4-christ 83 Comments [12/10/2007 1:55:44 PM]
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Quote# 32189

Santa Claus = 666...(no joke)

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum.

Comments on the following ?

I've just today figured it out, and wanted to shout from the roof tops to warn other Christians, as it is now my duty to expose the unfruitful works of darkness...as it is for anyone that reads this.

First by using the following gematria:

A=6 B=12 C=18 D=24 E=30 F=36 G=42 H=48 I=54 J=60 K=66 L=72 M=78 N=84 O=90 P=96 Q=102 R=108 S=114 T=120 U=126 V=132 W=138 X=144 Y=150 Z=156

on SANTA CLAUS it adds up to: 666

Then by looking at SANTA CLAUS from a anagram perspective we come up with:

SATAN LUCAS !!! Lucas being a form of Lucifer.


Thank you,
Yours in Christ Jesus

sedg, Christian Forums 74 Comments [12/10/2007 9:51:40 AM]
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Submitted By: UberLutheran

Quote# 32190

As the war on Christianity continues in the United States, we seem to accept the fact that we should never offend or cause anyone discomfort by encouraging those baddy Christians to express cheer, hope and peace on earth to everyone at Christmas. Please, let’s not dare offend anyone.

Well if anyone cares, I am offended! I am greatly offended by the stealthy actions of the ACLU and other liberal socialist organizations that are slowly stripping our country of the Christian foundations that are responsible for our very freedoms and the creation of our extremely successful society.

It is time for Christians of all denominations to come together to fight this attack on our religion, our culture and our very way of life. The anti-Christian movement is worldwide and has been frighteningly successful.

How can we fight this program? You can start by wishing everyone a very “Merry Christmas” and not just “Happy Holidays.” It would also be a great idea to go to church and bring your family with you. We should consider not buying from any store or company that does not allow “Merry Christmas” to be uttered.

You may also be more careful about who you vote for at election time. Contrary to popular belief, religion and liberal, progressive or communist socialism cannot coexist. The religion of socialists is not atheism but socialism itself. They believe that their god is the government.

Maybe with this small effort, we can regain that warm Christmas spirit that was enjoyed by everyone while I was growing up. On that note, I would like to wish everyone a very merry Christmas and the blessings of a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year. As always, if that offends anyone, I can only say BAH HUMBUG!

Fred Gallagher, lenconnect letters 58 Comments [12/10/2007 9:13:58 AM]
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Quote# 32188

The movie is EVIL and the books behind it are even more EVIL and directly Anti-Christian, glorifying daemons. This is an evil stealth campaign, an alliance between NLC's capitalism and the daemonic evil of Atheism. Boycott that evil movie, destroy the books (if you got a copy of them) and go and see Prince Caspian, a movie based on Good books made by C.S. Lewis, a blessed author and servant of God.

God's curse on Philip Pullman!

ScarletCrusader, Christian Forums 33 Comments [12/10/2007 5:14:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Ryan

Quote# 32186

[After an American River College board formed a "Report Your Liberal Teacher" forum.]

I've had some really biased professors throughout my 3-year college experience. A womens psych prof, Jessica Heskin, who claims to be Jewish, once mentioned how she couldn't stand teaching in Placerville because it was so Christian, conservative, and 'white'. She also complained about the Slavic students being 'homophobic' because of their Christian beliefs. Of course the whole class was about showing how wonderful the 'gays' really were and that homo-sexual behavior was completely normal and ok because of her beliefs. These militant feminists are really awful role models and shouldn't be 'teaching' anything. Instead of trying to find out why she was divorced three times or so and now cohabitating with her 'partner' and kids she attempted to blame men and society for being so patriarchal and what not. I could not believe taxpayers and students have to pay for these classes so they can be offered for completion of a required 'liberal' education. Will they be teaching sodomy as an alternative lifestyle next? I just hope people will realize that although rejecting God may make you feel better about accepting a seared conscience, telling the truth will inevitably set the human soul free.

[Most of the anti-slavic response results from this: http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=809]

Jesusismyteacher, arcchristianclub 22 Comments [12/10/2007 4:09:06 AM]
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Submitted By: melange

Quote# 32185

I have to differ with the love the sinner hate the sin folks.

For many years, hundreds of years, certainly in this country public humiliation was enough to keep promiscuity confined to the low lifes where it belongs. Girls refrained from having sex and getting pregnant mostly because of the pressure they were under. What would happen? Their friends would stop being their friends, people would whisper when she passed. Small children would be led away. She would be a pariah. She would be sent away to have her baby that would then be put up for adoption unless her family was gracious enough to claim it as the mother's. The consequences of casual sex were devastating and immediate. They also worked. They worked quite well. Boys would be expelled from school their friend's parents would not longer allow their children to associate with such a bad influence. Entire families were forced to uproot and move away. Sometimes, if they were old enough, they were just pushed into marriage whether they wanted it or not.

Consequences. Not consequences of being loved and coddled through a tough time but serious consesquences. It did more than all the sex ed classes in the world. We should go back to those days, not the compassionate, understanding, enableing that we have today.

Kathy30, Free Conservatives 49 Comments [12/10/2007 3:34:56 AM]
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Quote# 32181

GOOD MORNING CLASS: Today I issue a bold challenge to all atheists - a challenge that not even the most educated and meticulous thinkers of them will be able to satisfactorily answer in any way. The only thing they will be able to do in effort to effectually rebutt this challenge is to babble unintelligently.

The challenge has to do with the issue of human death. The sentence of death (which comes from God as a result of mankind having committed high treason against God's kingdom in the first man Adam) is one that every person of mankind cannot escape as long as mankind exists. (The actual experience of death is one that few humans will escape). Every atheist BELIEVE and even KNOW that every person of mankind, must die. However, even though they believe and know this fact, not one of them can supply SCIENTIFIC PROOF to that effect. Their belief is not based on any type of SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE.

This is so because no scientific proof actually exists to that effect. If there was scientific proof, it would also point to a specific time, date and type of death. But despite the fact that their death is inevitable, there is no so-called "scientific proof" to that effect. The only real proof is found only in the unadulterated teachings of Holy Writ - the Bible. Duly noting that death has prevailed over all mankind throughout their history is not proof that all will be overtaken by death in the future. It is only proof that death has prevailed thusfar, (since there will be certain people who will not be overtaken by death in the future).

Robert T Lee, Ten Commandments 76 Comments [12/9/2007 10:41:00 PM]
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Quote# 32182

I just started my period, and I hate wearing pads. My mom says I can’t wear a tampon because I’m a virgin. Is it ungodly to wear a tampon?

Puzzled, Briomag- Dear Susie 126 Comments [12/9/2007 9:27:38 PM]
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Submitted By: Charlie

Quote# 32174

It' about time that people really start to stand up for unrighteousness and this film is all about it and the people need to know what is being released into the atmosphere, we are already dealing with demonic strongholds in this world not to mention one teaching people how to become even more evil. I'll continue to pray without ceasing.

ntl_walker, Yahoo! News 31 Comments [12/9/2007 7:43:34 PM]
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Quote# 32180

Of course they have a problem with liberalism and secularisation in Israel too. I hope the Orthodox can deal with this.

"Evil"!? You call Israel evil!!? They are heroes who defend the Holy grounds against the evil of Islam, just like the noble Crusaders once did. Of course it is sad that most Israelis do not recognise Jesus as their saviour. Judaism is a good religion created by God; sadly it's too incomplete to save anyone.

ScarletCrusader, ChristianForums 38 Comments [12/9/2007 5:48:13 PM]
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Quote# 32167

But, If the world is getting worse everyday?and we just become overwhelmed with not belonging here? It becomes more difficult to abide in the vine.

Some believers LOVE this world, money and everything else thats in it. There happy and content.

Not really sure how its suppose to work in these end times? Was Lott content in his world?

I think its new to everyone. Were the first ones in this end of end time period.

To tell you the truth 5 more years of a rapid decline like we are seeing , would discourage me. I mean I would keep on keeping on, but I wouldnt like. It would be very difficult to stay?..............(.whats the word?)...........focused, away and seperate from the world.

Im catching myself saying " "I might be here for a while, I better figure out how to deal with it."

In other words, " It helps to know his return is soon, if we start to really think it could a LONG ways away, we start to focus on living in this world.

Stinker, Rapture Ready 32 Comments [12/9/2007 5:15:05 PM]
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Quote# 32170

[In response to "Let me get this straight, bible based beliefs = believing in people being able to live inside whales? Arks that carry unlimited weight and burning trees that talk?"]

I'll pretend this isn't the eighth time you've said this same exact thing, but if you for a second believe in a higher being, particularly an Almighty God, then the stories make perfect sense. An omnipotent God would easily be able to do the things that you classify as "impossible."

_gonzalez, MPA Network 30 Comments [12/9/2007 5:14:45 PM]
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Submitted By: Icestorm

Quote# 32175

For the people who think homosexuals engage in consensual sex: they don't. They have a mental disorder (the different wiring I spoke earlier about) that prevents them from making sane judgements on who they should have sex with.

Having sex with someone who isn't capable of making a sound judgement on whether or not they should have sex (either through drug use, mental capacity or age) is rape nearly everywhere in the world.

(Yes I know mental disorder is a bit of a harsh term, and some people mght attack me for it, but homosexuality isn't useful in an evolutionary sense, or for society, so it should be cured.)

I know more than you, Fark 46 Comments [12/9/2007 5:14:30 PM]
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Quote# 32152

Jesus said to the lukewarm believers that he is going to spue them out of his mouth. Some tell me that doesn’t mean hell. I play their game and tell them, “I don’t care if you think it is hell or not, I don’t want to be spued on the other side of heaven by the Lord Jesus Christ. I want to hear him say, “Well done”.

Ekkman, CSEblogs 26 Comments [12/9/2007 5:12:51 PM]
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Quote# 32154

During the Great Flood, many creatures appear to have been buried and then reburied weeks or months later. This is one evidence supporting the “continent-crossing tidal waves” contentions regarding the Flood.

Perhaps not all land, all the time, was under water. Perhaps it was a series of tidal waves; worsening and lessening. Noah waited for months after landing in the mountains of Ararat before opening the door and exiting. He successively released birds. Isn’t that interesting? Perhaps (by theory) it was because he did not know if another severe tidal wave would lift and carry them again to land (again) later.

P.A., CSE blogs 17 Comments [12/9/2007 5:06:58 PM]
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Quote# 32158


Fellow Skeptics, we remain intellectually superior to those lowly creationists. We are so superior that we have only studied evolution. Let us collectively pat ourselves on the back for having reached this evolved pinnacle of wisdom and understanding. Without investigating the claims of those lowly creationists we can proudly proclaim their error. There is one thing that remains though, where on Earth are they HIDING those creationist scientific evidences! That is the only minor thing that we have not yet been able to figure out! But all else is clearly known to us. Keep marching forward towards that spiritual cliff ahead. Feel proud. And when you are in front, take a deep breath, and gaze at the beautiful view. And keep marching even as you fall off and tumble through the air. So invigorating. Now let us recite the Skeptics Creed:

“I am a skeptic. All that is answers to my understanding or else it does not exist. I am too strong to admit weakness, particularly spiritually. I deny the role of The Scientific Mathematician who created and sustains the universe. Instead I contend that the trillions of known stars and the magnificience of abundant interlocking scientific laws of motion, preservation, heat, sophisticated chemical and biological interactions ALL exploded from nothingness into chance existence for no reason. There is thus no purpose to life.

pabramson, CSE blogs 49 Comments [12/9/2007 4:13:08 PM]
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Quote# 32150

Most of those Quaran predictions are silly attempts to make something seem like it means something else.

SuperOktav, Christian Forums 29 Comments [12/9/2007 4:11:08 PM]
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Quote# 32155

[I thought all the answers were in the Bible.]

When [Henry Morris] started writing, there was very little information out there. He’s the one who got the ball rolling. Secondly, it’s human nature not to research a thing out, if you are in total agreement with the speaker. You are more likely to search things out when you disagree with somebody. God didn’t give Dr Henry Morris all the answers for this very reason! It’s one of those things that motivates the research in the Creation Science movement to keep going.

The Welders Wife, CSE blogs 18 Comments [12/9/2007 4:08:29 PM]
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Quote# 32151

[Hovind's latest imaginary conversation with God]

kh: God, are you squeezing me to get something out of me, get something into me, or get me in a more usable shape?

GOD: All three and more, son. If I told you everything I was doing, your little brain would not be able to handle it all.

I’ve gotten some prayers and writings from you that you didn’t have time for in the free world. I’ve had you read things, watch things, hear things, and experience things that have changed you forever. I can squeeze things into you and out of you at the same time.

I’m getting some oil, fragrance, and juice out of you that is helping nourish, refresh, and bless some of your brothers and sisters in Christ. I’m also using you to convict and convert others who were not My children until they saw you get squeezed like this.

Kent Hovind, CSEblogs 47 Comments [12/9/2007 3:46:19 PM]
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Quote# 32162

Preaching? ABSOLUTLY...........................NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! (gotcha didn't I?
God has never called a woman to do that, and HE NEVER WILL! Like I said above, the Holy Spirit won't lead anyone to do something that isn't scriptural. The Bible forbids a woman to preach and gives that distinct call to a man who meets the qualifications. God will not contradict His Word, period.

Leading singing and such? No...because the Bible says she isn't to have the authority over the man. There are usually men in a choir. If she is "Leading" the singing, that means she's leading the men...which means she's in authority, which is unscriptural.

teaching Sunday school: Only if it is young children (boys and girls), or teenage/adult ladies. She definatly has no bussiness teaching men. That goes back to the "no teaching or usurping authority over the man" verse. And I'm not keen on her teaching teenage boys either. They are getting close to adulthood, and personally I think they need a strong, godly male figure to look to. Especially in this day of broken homes where the boy may not have a strong father figure to begin with.

Public prayer in church: I'm not keen on this one either, unless it is only before ladies or children. She doesn't need to "lead" in prayer in front of men in public. Again, I believe that goes back to the authority thing. Now if she's at home and she and her husband are praying together, I think that would be alright so long as they are both praying together.

Hm...can't think of anything else for the moment....

IFBaptistgirl, Teens-4-Christ 49 Comments [12/9/2007 3:22:35 PM]
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Quote# 32138

The way I have heard it, is that Dinosaurs (as reptiles) grow throughout their entire lives. And before the flood, the atmosphere had like 2x the oxygen, and science has shown that most extremely old fossils/bugs that have been found in sap had 2x the oxygen and lived alot longer. (more than 2x longer) Therefore, dinosaurs used to live really long, and therefore grew really big.

There have been tons and tons of finds of smaller dinosaurs, but most of the time they're put to the side for the big ones. So, some dinosaurs died in the flood, and others lived, but could not grow to be as large, in which case became similiar/the same as the reptiles we see today.

Also, reptiles as large as some prehistoric dinosaurs have been found in more recent days too, there was a dinosaur pulled out of the ocean and they have pictures of it, and a video, and it was still breathing, but had been injured or something and the people on the boat through it back out and kept some samples... will try to find article.

EDIT: If you want to bring Noah into this... he probably would've taken younger (~ smaller) animals on the ark.

EDIT: Found article: http://www.weirdasianews.com/2007/01/24/first-living-dinosaur-found-in-japan/

EDIT: http://www.creationinstruction.org/index.php

Minimus, World of Warcraft official forums 28 Comments [12/9/2007 3:09:17 PM]
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Quote# 32164

[OP asked atheists to define what they believe without using the word "God"]

E Tims wrote: "I don't believe in anything without having a reason to believe in it."

Again, that's a negative statement of belief. I'm looking for a positive one. For example:

"I believe that human beings are simply a conglomeration of chemicals who evolved ex nihilo."

Is that too hard?

A. P. Schiavo Jr., amazon.com discussions 34 Comments [12/9/2007 2:41:30 PM]
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Quote# 32172

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, surging in Iowa polls in the Republican presidential race, wrote on a questionnaire while running for U.S. Senate in 1992 that homosexuality is "aberrant" and "sinful."

"I feel homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk,"


Huckabee also wrote that he wanted to quarantine AIDS patients, according to the AP:

"If the federal government is truly serious about doing something with the AIDS virus, we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers of this plague.... It is difficult to understand the public policy towards AIDS. It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the carriers of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general population, and in which this deadly disease for which there is no cure is being treated as a civil rights issue instead of the true health crisis it represents."


Perhaps more damagingly, he has not warded off questions about his role in the 1999 parole of a rapist, supported by Arkansas pastors, who went on to kill a mother of three.

Mike Huckabee, Politico.com 29 Comments [12/9/2007 2:40:07 PM]
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Quote# 32166

Believe me, I have seen the problem with illegals from Mexico for over 50 years as I was raised in South Texas, and for the most part, even the ones who were here legally didn't put forth much effort to learn to speak English well. In Jr. High, groups of Mexican students would gather around and speak Spanish, which I felt was rude, as they would start laughing when you walked by them. You can go into Wal Mart any day of the week and hear a 3-4 yr old Hispanic child speaking to his mother in Spanish. Do you think Mexico celebrates the 4th of July? Then why do we celebrate Cinco de Mayo? It's for the same reason~~~our independence and Mexico's independence from Spain. I'm just tired of the double standard, and yes, I'll keep on being intolerant when it comes to my Lord Jesus Christ and will stand up for what's right, according to what God's word says.

AnnOdom44, Rapture Ready 52 Comments [12/9/2007 12:14:22 PM]
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Quote# 32159

Dear Welder’s Wife,

I couldn’t help but notice in your long exegesis about Noah’s sons that you referred to certain people getting their information as to what to write, as they wrote portions of scripture, from other people or circumstances, or things they saw. It seems that in your zeal to explain what you think the Bible means you have drifted into reliance on human reasoning instead of reliance on the Word of God. For example, Luke did not write the book of Acts based on things he saw or heard because of time spent with Paul. He wrote what God told Him to write. I admonish you to submit your thinking to the authority of God as given here:

“The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.” Psalms 68:11

2ndamenduseur, CSE blogs 13 Comments [12/9/2007 12:13:42 PM]
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