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Quote# 22435

If all I ever knew were common composers of average skill and then I found a work like Bach's Mass in B minor, then the natural conclusion would be "This must have taken a lifetime to write!" I would judge it this because I see things through the eyes of common men - being I never knew of such a thing as a musical genius of the likes of Bach. Did Bach really spend a lifetime writing that Mass? No, but according to my good logic I would think it took the composer a lifetime to write something of such fine craftsmanship.

So if God is the Master Composer of all things (far greater than Bach) then wouldn't He be able to work in such a way as to make something appear to take much longer than what it actually did? Surely an Almighty Being could bend, stretch, and compress time and processes as He so desired. If 99.99999999% of all men cannot even compose as well as Bach, then isn't it beyond arrogance to think you really know the details of how the world was created?

Invisionary, YoungComposers 28 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22436

Please don’t take modesty lightly. As your brother in Christ I value the relationship that I will have with my wife someday. When I am tempted because of you I lose a part of myself that I am trying to save for her. When I’m tempted because of you I become that much more accepting of the perversions in the world. When you remain pure and modest, my life is made so much easier. Instead of watching to ensure that I don’t sin I can focus on you as a person and fellow follower of Christ. I appreciate modesty more than you’ll ever know. Please, show respect of yourself and of me and be modest.

Anonymous male, age 16, Rebelution Modesty Survey 31 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sayna
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Quote# 22437

Evolution is not a religion? If I recall correctly, and I do, evolutionists "believe" that the world started with a big bang. An explosion, what exploded? Where did this explosive material come from? What caused it to explode? Has there ever been another instance in known history in which an explosion created something? Was this explosion observed and tested as all true science is?
Believe what you want and disbelieve what you want. What it boils down to is that I "believe" in the beginning God, and evolutionists "believe" in the beginning KA-BOOM!

As to there being intelligent life on other planets it simply hasn't been observed! But what about all those UFO sightings? What about them - they are Unidentified Flying Objects! And those out of place fossils that scientists are finding everwere? Those only prove that our ancestors of yesteryear were pretty smart! What about crop circles? Disgusting waste of HUMAN time and effort that quite often includes trespassing and vandalism. etc.

JamesFLC, YoungComposers 24 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22438

Baphomet, the half male, half female goat god of the Knights Templar, was revived by Eliphas Levi, the infamous 19th century Freemason and magician and reportedly is worshipped today by homosexual cults.

David J. Stewart, http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/ 42 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22440

Deny it all you want. Atheism is a religion, you're just so desperate to avoid the word "Religion" that you're willing to deny an easily identifiable fact.

Atheism for one, is a belief system

For two, it has a theology

For three, it is a religion no matter how hard you nor anyone else argues

Will Kirk, YoungComposers 39 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22443

I can prove homosexual sex is a sin.

1) Any extra marital sex is a sin.
2) marriage is only between a man and a woman
3) ergo there is no such thing as a gay marriage
4) So without marriage all homosexual sex becomes extramarital.
5) ergo homosexual sex is a sin.]

Thank you Lord for giving him the wisdom to put it in this way....now no matter what anyone says, they can't twist your truth anymore without admitting there's sin involved....Lord you know I was getting so sick of the denial of Your Word, but there's no denying what You just said thru this brother. Thank You Jesus

Time4AChange, Christian Forums 27 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: UberLutheran
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Quote# 22444

[Matthew was written in response to the Pharisees, it wasn't a general wide audience thing.

Care to show me where it says that marriage is only between a man and a woman? or condemning of a same sex relationship? what about a sexual orientation?]

lol...i dont care to show you anything dave, u just took denial to a whole new level, so ill just let you be and pray for you

Time4AChange, Christian Forums 27 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: UberLutheran
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Quote# 22445

[Tony has lost the ability to form English sentences and to refer to himself in the first person]
[Re: Why are there 33,839 different Christian denominations?]
[...]
Again Colossians 2:8 and 2 Peter 1:20-21 is for believers to understand this only.
If you disagreeing with the book you disagreeing with God. Romans 3:3-4.
It's never about disagreeing with man unless your a self righteous moralist.
[...]
Tony didn't say this. John 8:47 says this.
Tony not saying if you disagreeing with Tony your an unbeliever.
Tony is saying that a believer can't disagree with another believer on any bible verse and speak by the Holy Spirit or the Word of God too.
Again 1 Corinthians 14:33 will justify this statement made.
[...]
Tony is saying that if your disagreeing with the Holy Spirit or the Word of God expressed through Tony with any bible verse then your not a believer if you continue enough this way.
John 8:47 will justify my statement made.
Titus 3:10 will justify my statement made.
[...]
Their just self righteous moralist.
Sure God's people are not the wittiest with the entire book all the time.
That's where Titus 3:10 comes in at.
They flunk the Titus 3:10 test then their not a believer.
[...]
People with other labels are the self righteous moralist.
Self righteous moralist are not Christians.
Again the Holy Spirit or the Word of God is what you have to receive of on this in
Matthew 5:20 or your not one of his.
Of course a confessing unbeliever knows what they are.

tonytony, Debating Christianity 29 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: McCulloch
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Quote# 22447

The ACLU has always been the very font of evil, the devil's logic of 'do as you will'. They have never stood for anything worthwhile, it is simply that in the past they directed some of their efforts towards arenas that did have legitimate concerns. But for the very start they have been a pro-communist, anti-religion (or at least Christian religion) organisation. Just one example is how they shriek like a pack of furies whenever something like the Ten Commandments appears on a state court house, but when San Diego used taxpayer monies to construct a statue of Quetzalcoatl for one of their parks, not a whisper from these jackals.


Shoot them all.

Morgoth, Rodan's Roost 31 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22449

Killed back to life, proof of gods existence.

When a person is alive and you kill them, they are then dead. If you kill them again, you kill them back to life. And so God will ressurect the dead by killing them back to life.

Except for the people that are currently living, everyone who has ever lived has died. The only person that is powerful enough to kill all those people is God. Since they are dead, that is proof that God exists.

HopeBforJC, Christian Forums 82 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jeremy PC
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Quote# 22450

[Post has been converted from all caps to all lower case for your sanity]

there is no such thing as gay christians!!!!! you cant believe in god and live a known life of sin!!!! saying your a christian wont get you into heaven!!! if it doesnt burn your hands to touch a bible, try reading romans 1:24-27. paying close attention to verse 27, or try leviticus 18:22!! the “friendly” atheist!?!?!? lets not discuss athiests. those who knowingly separate themselves from god, living their lives as if he doesnt exist, while calling christians and believers alike hypocrites. whos the real hypocrite?

mookie, Stupid Evil Bastard 34 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Les
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Quote# 22454

[When you give a fire and brimstone speech, you gotta put some oomf into it! You gotta freak out people, not verse em to death.]

Are you sure your father isn't the devil? Your words are so inviting and so filled with poison. You have the fangs of a serpent for sure.

GoodNewsJournalist, The Resistance Manifesto 20 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22455

As far as the enemy being able to read my IP address and find me, they do it all the time, as a matter of fact, they are right outside my window as I am writing this. They follow me every where I go. When I wake up in the morning...Toooot, Toooot, the train whistle blows signalling everyone in the neighborhood that I am awake; when I leave the house...Tooot, Toooot, the train whistle blows signalling every body that I am leaving. As a matter of fact, it will blow when I go to bed tonight, when I get up to go to the bathroom, when I get up in the morning, when I go somewhere, when I get back home, sometimges when I go into the next room. The truth is; I am watched and monitored each and every minute of the day, and night. They have a Winebego trailer parked just down the ally in sight of my bedroom window, they bought all the property around my house and have people watch me 24/7.
So I think I know when people are obsessed about me. But you not the first one who is. Now here's the important part and don't let the darkness of your mind steal this away from you. The reason my words have such power and why people are so effected by them......get this.....
IS BECAUSE THEY ARE TRUE. Every story I have told is absolute truth. And absolute truth stands on it's own merit. It has a power all it's own, it set's people free from darkness, it protects from the lie which is a major part of the darkness, and it brings life and light to all who hear it. And the reason it is effecting you so much and the reason why you can't stop thinking about it is because you have nothing in your arsenal to combat it but skeptisism. So on you go....and on and on, and on...your like a broken record. And you will continue to be like a broken record until you find the truth for yourself, and that pure of truth can only be found in Jesus Christ. Without Him you will remain in the darkness and will never find the light you will need to set you free. And there you have it.

whiterider, The Resistance Manifesto 54 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22456

I know this may sound a bit strange, but has anyone noticed that there has been a stagnation of sorts with regards to real breakthrough innovations in technology, medicine, etc. these days?

The technology for the things we have in our daily lives today was pretty much available to us or existed in some form 20-30-40 years ago.

I wonder what life would be like...I wonder what kind of technological and medical innovations we would have now if those aborted babies had been allowed to live?

BEST45CAL, FreeConservatives 55 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22457

[compilation of three posts]

We were founded on a nation of being Christan. Not any other....their is only "ONE" GOD. Buddhists are idol worshipers.

See how much know about the Bible. Moses brought Gods 10 commandants for mankind to follow.Off the mountain in stone tablets. Not the first 10 Bill of Rights. Oh! yea your a atheist, have fun in the triblation. Next stop is HELL. This "IS" the end of the line and your stop.

GET SAVED

[...]

Answer "NO" to the above they are not freedom of religions.....only Christan nations are. If you go to any nation that is not...to practice the Christan you have to do it in secert...are risk be putting to death. Here in the US you can practice any faith you want. Just don't try to change our foundation this is "CHRISTAN".

EXCEPT JESUS AS YOUR SAVIOR

[...]

Well you expect him ...you most likely want ever see him death will come apron 1/4 of the people on earth still here. After the church is removed.

They don't worship that fat, potbelly little statue? Looks like they do to me. I don't study false religions, no need to.

Ranger_b, Military.com 42 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22460

(what about people who never heard of Jesus?)

You can't accept Him after you die because you're DEAD! Your actions and you heart will do the talking for you.
As far as everyone knowing about Christ~ There are these really neat inventions called TV and Radio! The Indians have them on their reservation along with their gambling casinos.

Every since person hears the truth before dying. They make the choice more than once.

Fire&Ice, Court TV Forums 25 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Ken Anderson
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Quote# 22462

[In response to a story about a "Free Hugs from Atheists" event being confronted by a preacher who refused to be hugged and condemned them all to Hell]

People should be uncomfortable. Morality doesn't exist without God. The value of human life becomes completely arbitrary. To an atheist there isn't much difference between hugging a person or strangling them to death. It's all about their own self interest.

[...]

My morality stems from the Creator. You're amoral behavior system is based on fear of punishment and pain. Nothing is immoral to the atheist if he doesn't get caught on the other hand I abide by morality as I am grateful to God for life and love all of God's creations.

[...]

Atheism is a belief system in its own right. Atheists did their best at wiping out other religions.

[...]

It is the atheist value system simply doesn't have any meaningful value of human life. It was their atheism that enabled these people to murder millions to achieve their goals.

[...Most of the people on Digg.com] are atheists until graduation. It's part of their manufactured teenage rebellion. Once they grow up, get into the real world, start families, they'll develop a more encompassing belief system than their egotistical, primitive atheism.

[...]

To an atheist killing is wrong only if they decide that so for the current moment.

[...]

Atheist "morality" is as completely arbitrary as deciding what tshirt to wear that day. Morality requires a subjective, outside observer. Atheists can only be amoral.

erikfm, Digg 53 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gadren
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Quote# 22465

Section is titled "Three Teens Define 'A Real Woman'"

A real woman...

...does not compete for equality with men or chafe at God's design for male and female, but delights in and understands the importance of her calling to complement man's role. (1 Timothy 2:11-12, Ephesians 5:22-24)

...realizes her imperative need to allow the Holy Spirit to control her emotions and expressions of them. (James 1:19-20)

...does not wallow in self-pity or make a habit of voicing complaints, but radiates cheerfulness and joy. (Proverbs 15:15, Proverbs 17:22)

...appreciates her father's protection, and respects and submits to his authority. In so doing, she is preparing herself to exercise the Biblical role in her relationship with a possible future husband. (Ephesians 5:33-6:3, 1 Peter 3:1-2)

...does not have a nagging, contentious or manipulative manner in which she deals with others. (Judges 16:16, Proverbs 21:9, 19, 26:21)

...is not boisterous or loud in her speech or actions but is characterized by a gentle and quiet spirit. (Proverbs 9:13, 1 Peter 3:4)


...uses her years of singleness to seek and serve God without distraction, and is content to leave the details of her future to Him. (Psalm 73:25, Philippians 4:11)

...does not relate to members of the opposite sex in a flirtatious or forward manner, but instead saves all her passion for her future husband. (Thessalonians 4:3-8, Proverbs 6:25, 1 Corinthians 7:1)

...holds her virginity before marriage sacred and will not compromise it for anything. (This one goes for guys too)
(1 Timothy 5:22)


(Check out the results of the modesty survey on that site.)

Philip, Heidi, and Maria, therebelution.com 28 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22467

By the way, to directly answer your question: there is a very large group which claims to be Christian, and they have murdered millions in the name of Christ. However they are not Christians. In fact, it was the true believers they murder. Who, you ask? The Roman Catholic Church.

Bro. Randy, Teens 4 Christ 41 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22470

This is unreal.
How has it gotten this bad.
These Homosexual groups are shoving the most Vile sin in everyones face.
And saying if you dont swollow it your a hate filled biggot.
How long will it be before their true Violance is felt?
Because the Underlying And base element of Homosexualty Is Vicious Violance.
A great Visiousness lies in the hearts of All Homosexuals.
It stems from self loathing.
THeir God Given conscience's can never seem to make peice with the Sin they Do no matter How hard they try.
So they Become elixethymic (Must have Constant movement and activity so they dont have to think of their own depravety)that they
Shout to the world loudly about their sexual sin and use it for prophet.
They prosilatise it because it is a religion as much as humanism is a religion.
In most of america today the Homosexual is placed on a special pedistal
so that everyone must see and hear their Cardload Of Godflaunting Sin's.
In the Culture of the Young and Godless today the Homosexual allways gets the High moral Ground against those who are against it.

Its' a very weird Spycosis that takes place in their Minds.
Because of the perverted nature of their Minds they blame Christians and their families for the Hurting of their own Conscience's.
But The Sheer Hatred and Anger of the Homosexual is a Hatred For God.

turtle, Rapture Ready 54 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22471

Well, it's finally happened. We have turned our science into a religion and we are copying old habits from old religious traditions.

Global warming has presented our society with a mia culpa that we can exhonorate ourselve from by simply buying our way out via carbon credits should our carbon footprint be too large.

Like the catholic indulences of old, where-in a wealthy sinner could pay for his sins in advance and there-by insure his place in Heaven, our wealthy living in mansions and driving Hummers, can pay for carbon credits obtained from low carbon emitters.

How do you like that?

EL KABONG, Myspace 27 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen
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Quote# 22380

[Word re-definition project?}

A secular state would say nothing favorable about God, would not honor religious holidays, would not call the nation to prayer every year, would not print IN GOD WE TRUST on our money and post it in our courts, would not display the Ten Commandments in six places in or on our Supreme Court Building, would not hire military chapliains, senate chaplains, and prison chaplains, and would not allow a state like Ohio to adopt WITH GOD ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE as a state motto, and would not allow tax exemptions to religious organizations and tax deductions for donations to them.

America is FAITH-FRIENDLY AND GOD-FRIENDLY. The country has no state church though and treats all faiths equally under the law. I think that is what you may have meant by "secular". Secular is the wrong word.

Loves Truth, Christian Forums 25 Comments [3/23/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22383

I am not trying way too hard getting pants off women because women wear them. Ladies do not.

I am not going to argue because God's Word is His Word. God says it and that settles it. No questions asked.


Mrs Debbie, T4C 41 Comments [3/23/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22384

Actually, the true Muslims think most people are the devil, and they want to kill all non-Muslims and blacks. For a little more information on the subject, go to the Chick Tract website and read the tracks about what Isalm's "Bible" the Koran actually teaches.

Disciple, Teens-4-Christ 40 Comments [3/23/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: gamerchick
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Quote# 22385

[Why do you choose to not believe in the fact that is evolution?]

The only 'fact' about evolution is that it is a myth concieved in the bowels of hell by Satan.

[Why would you rather believe in fairy tales?]

No, I do not believe fairy tales. That is why I do not believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or evolution. It is so strange to me that so many people can look at the world around them, see the evidence of creation, then take a leap of faith to believe such a massive lie.

Bro. Randy, T4C 37 Comments [3/23/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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