Quote# 22207


CHURCH leaders want Sir Elton John banned from Tobago - in case he turns the locals gay.

He is due to headline the Plymouth jazz festival there next month. But Philip Isaac, the Archdeacon of Trinidad and Tobago, believes the singer could tempt the islanders into gay ways.

He said: "His visit to the island can open the country to be tempted towards pursuing his lifestyle."

AdvertisementThe Archdeacon condemned Sir Elton's marriage to David Furnish, saying it doesn't conform to "biblical teachings" because a "man should not lie with a man".

And he wants to save the star, 59. Mr Isaac said: "The artist is one of God's children and while his lifestyle is questionable he needs to be ministered unto."

Homophobic campaigners claimed that a clause in Tobago's immigration laws means homosexuals could be kept out of the country. The local radio station has been bombarded with calls opposing his visit.

One local told an island newspaper: "We have a huge problem with homosexuality in our population because, unlike our foreign counter-parts our free-up nature,,. and cannot support the conditions of this lifestyle."

But local lawyer Anand Ramlogan confirmed there is no law against sexual orientation in Tobago.

Festival organiser Anthony Maharaj said Sir Elton will take part. He said: "We should be honoured to have him.

"This is a man who was knighted by the Queen, who was highly complimented by Desmond Tutu." Sir Elton's spokesman declined to comment.

Archdeacon Philip Isaac, Daily Mirror - UK 42 Comments [3/18/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22211

I don't mean to be mean but Darwin's gone loco [winking smiley] [confused smiley] [laughing smiley] I mean we didn't "evolve" from monkeys. Evolution is a major topic in my younger youth group,my friend says "If we "evolved"why aren't there any new humans walking outta the Birmingham Zoo?" which I think we need to ask the Scientists that question.Any comments? biggrin.gif

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RoCk_StAr_29818, What About Evolution? 37 Comments [3/18/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: ImScaredOfFundies

Quote# 22213

Spirit of rock and roll-subverts your death march with Christ?
The spirit of rock and roll is spoken of in Revelation ch. 9. It gives a perfect image of the Kiss band-The Destroyer tour lasting 5 months from november 1976-april 1977. We know satan to be a great impersonator of God. The Name Kiss means throne in hebrew. It was lit up by Golden lights w/smoke arising to it and the 4 locusts(members of th band) jumping out looking like horses dressed for battle. They had faces of men and teeth like a lion(a member was painted up like a cat with teeth like a lion) and hair like women(to torment women that cut their hair). Upon their heads were as it were crowns of gold(the golden lit spot lights upon them). They had a king over them(Elvis-whose name means cat which in egypt the male cat was linked to the son-god and memphis was the capitol of egypt). They have stings in their tails(tales-songs) which like a scorpion releases nearal toxins which paralyze you and inflict great pain(woe). In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ stay away from it.

David, Yahoo!Answers 49 Comments [3/18/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22214

Slavery can come back. fine with me, so long as the people are treated in a god pleasing manner.

Nick Haasch, Facebook 39 Comments [3/18/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Fili

Quote# 22215

what evedince is there that there is not a Creater?
there is more evedince to support a creater then not. And if there was no god then there is no hope in a evil world. think about it. is it ok to take a baby and tear it appart in front of its mother? there is to much evil to say there is no God and no satan becasue there is more evidence that there is
than not. And why is that only humans no evil and we can sit and think about hurting some one? and why do we have guilt about the things we do. could it be that the bible is true?

Azayah, Military.com 37 Comments [3/18/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22217

no,homosexuality is what is sick,demented,and deplorable,God calls it an Abomination! I think He describes it perfectly!

soblessed53, Christian Forums 37 Comments [3/18/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22219

If prayer was allowed in school, there would be less school shootings because you will more than likely not kill someone you pray with. Unless most school shootings are committed by moralless atheists.

Alex Wainright, Facebook 51 Comments [3/18/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Fili

Quote# 22220

Why are scientists out to get Christians? ... why do scientists always try to disprove that the Son of God walked on the Earth. I never have heared anyone try to disprove Buddha or Mohhamed. It's like non-believers are trying to find evidence that supports their theories, when there is documentation that supports the fact that God came to Earth in human form. That documentation is the Bible.

Joseph Christie, Facebook 39 Comments [3/18/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Fili

Quote# 22221

Children in Africa are born with AIDS because of the sins of their poeple.

sknight, Christian Forums 50 Comments [3/18/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22222

If I was President of the United States, I would _____________________

* Carve out a section of northern California (approximately half of the state) and make it a gay Reservation. Current residents would be given assistance to vacate and all professed homosexuals throughout the country would be ordered to relocate. Homosexuals who refuse would be jailed.
* Have war protesters labeled. Each year, they would pay higher taxes, have wages garnished, and their ability to obtain credit, grants, etc would be affected by the label.
* Make it so that foreigners seeking citizenship would have to pass a tough english language examination. If you can't speak proper english, then you can not be an American citizen.
* Impose strict curfew laws on Iraqi citizens. Anyone violating the laws would be shot on the spot. Reason: war!
* Raise taxes on the wealthy
* Make it so that to receive assistance, welfare recipients would be required to take scholastic and technical examinations each month. Upon successfully passing the examination, the recipient would receive his/her assistance. Training for the monthly examination would be provided via volunteer tutors who recieve tax breaks for committing a number of hours per year to teach the poor in their particular field of work. After receiving credit for so many examinations, the poor could then use that credit to apply for jobs. Employers would be forced to hire a certain number of these applicants else pay a higher tax.
* Those who own two or more houses would be encouraged to take in a homeless person for 6 six months out of a year. By doing so, they receive a significant tax break.
* Capital punishment would be required by all states under a new ammendment to the constitution. Due Process would be adjusted. No more long years of waiting on death row. Invisible executions (out of the public eye) would be a thing of the past. Public executions would return. Lethal Injection would be done away with and replaced with swift public crucifixion and electrocution. I would create a channel called the Exocution Channel, so that idiots who glamor in crime can see "why" it doesn't pay.
* Child support laws would be re-adjusted. Women would have to pay taxes on child support. Men can deduct a percentage of child support payed to women who earn over $40,000.
* Blacks, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, etc would no longer be labeled with the terminology "minority". This term was established by racist caucasian and in the last century became part of mainstream speech. However, it's context has no justification nor place in modern society, nor can it be adequately argued why particular races of people are labeled minority, while only a single race is labled majority.

Royal_Priest, CARM.org 94 Comments [3/18/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22183

["IMO, a clear demonstration that advancing scientific understanding of the universe, and belief in the existence of God as the Creator of the Universe, are not only compatible, BUT VERY LIKELY THE SAME THING."]

Yes, in fact if you make two changes to Hawking's cosmos it matches Genesis quite well:

1. Make it a bounded universe (and thus by equal distribution of gravitation, spherical).

2. Place earth at the center, as God most certainly would have.

These two changes to a universe that expanded from a singularity give us D. Russell Humphreys' well thought out model, which allows distant bodies to be truly distant while still having a six day creation as measured at the center, through the gravitational dilation of time of Einstein's General Relativity.

When you get your science right, it never disagrees with God's word.

editor-surveyor, Free Republic 37 Comments [3/17/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22184

["By not allowing relatively minor disagreements side track us from the much bigger evils that need to be battled."]

There is no greater evil than contraception which must be battled today. If contraception, and the mentality that accepts it are defeated, then also fall like dominoes all the support for abortion, homosexuality, fornication, divorce, pornography, feminism, materialism, and "pick-'n-choose" religious faith. Also to be accounted as allied with contraception are illegal immigration (to make up the population deficit it causes) and overseas imperialism (to force others not to demographically overwhelm us).

Most of what is wrong in the world today comes back to contraception and its associated selfishness and selfcenteredness.

I'm not interested in battling evils with people who support evil.

Andrew Byler, Free Republic 33 Comments [3/17/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22185

[Regarding contraception] what exactly have we gained? The ability of men to enjoy committment-free casual sex without any of the guilt or consequences? The celebration of women as sexual chattel?

Quite honestly, I see the devaluation of man and woman--reducing the opposite sex to a mere flesh-and-bone sex toy is probably the most dehumanizing thing anyone can do to another, short of killing, raping, or maiming them.

anonymous, Free Republic 46 Comments [3/17/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22186

[Regarding Evolution...]

the net is full of evidences- pure scientific evidences that don't rely on biblical interpretations- Formations in the earth that contradict old age, radio-halos that suggest rapid formation, carbon-14 readings that contradict old age suggestions, every bit as valid theories about light and the age of the universe being younger than previously thought, red-shifts suggesting our present knowledge of light speed may be off by tons, on and on it goes. there's plenty for those who don't trip themselves up on religious OPINION that accompanies 'some' of the scientific findings- (As though suggesting that scientists can't have their own independant opinions- yet these same people that suggest any religious opinion contained with scientific reports disqualifies the science facts that are found, will turn right around and allow the most perposterous evolutionary opinion, and call that science- remember the monster theory? Global Cooling? Global Warming? The lies that were presented as scientific fact such as endosimbiotic relationships were 'macroevolution' being witnessed? When in fact it was nothing but a syimbiotic ralationship which they later begrudgingly admitted when exposed for the liars that they were by those who didn't blindly buy into their crap? & how bout all them 'missing link' fossils that have been proven false by sound science?

Just one piece of evidence? Oh my, there's a ton.

Cott Shop, Free Republic 21 Comments [3/17/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22187

[Regarding a study which showed rising HPV rates in girls]

Gosh- I can't understand why it's so high- it just couldn't be because our freakin schools teach sex ed to gradeschoolers, hand out condoms to highschoolers, encourage sex and abortions and teach that it's alright to be a slut before the kids even reach puberty.

The stinkin sex revolution agendists have brought this problem on our society and now they want to mandate HPV virus innoculation against a parents wishes? Oh, but they'll tell you there is no connection between promiscuity encouragement in schools and the increase in cancer- oh no, it's gottas be sdomething else.

Cott Shop, Free Republic 48 Comments [3/17/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22192

Contraception is telling God that you will not serve him with your body. And when you start telling God "No, I will not serve. I will not be fruitful and multiply as you command me to in this marriage. No, I will not serve you this way, God." Ah, but you've just signed up with someone else who said he wouldn't serve and then crawled out of the garden on his belly eating the dust.

Maeve, Free Republic 37 Comments [3/17/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22193

[Author of the Left Behind Books, on moderate Christians who don't believe in the Rapture]

Moderate Christians will never come up with a story that can compare, he said. "They are just liberal, socialists, really, and they don't believe the Bible," LaHaye said.

Tim LaHaye, Reuters.com 46 Comments [3/17/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22194

Perhaps you should give that sight to the walking dead, (The atheists and apostates). I’m sure they are headed that way at this very moment They can use any crutch they can find. Theirs is nothing original. And if their foolish comments and what they consider intellect, only parrots their mentors and cronies who’s like, I often scrape off the sole of my shoe, why would you think that I have a need to change my words? They haven’t learned those currently used yet. (Well, perhaps I shouldn't say that, for though it is quite evident there is co comprehension thereof, I have seen them parrot some of my phrases.)

Did you ever hear of learning through repetition? Even a monkey does that. Too bad the mentors previously mentioned, have yet to progress to that level of intelligence. What does this say for their followers herein?

The only problem, is that if the sight you provided has any words with more than one consonant, the atheist or apostate will have to use a word synthesizing program to mimic it, then they must figure how to get it into writing in what looks like an original post.

GloryBound, CARM 15 Comments [3/17/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22154

Revolutions don’t happen overnight. Homosexuality is being widely accepted in schools now by administrators, school boards and some parents and students because of diligent, aggressive people who believe it’s okay. Some work for large, well-financed national “gay” activist groups; others are local volunteers. Some are practicing homosexuals who are educators; others are their relatives or sympathizers.

Regardless, this process has happened because traditional-minded parents and communities weren’t watching closely enough, and many thought supporting homosexuality was part of being kind, compassionate and tolerant. Most people never thought it would get this far.
The roots of same sex attraction have been under study for decades. Emotional disorders, previous sexual abuse and reckless experimentation are in play here, not genetics. Young people struggling with this desire or who are experimenting with homosexuality deserve to know that change is possible.

Should communities support high-risk practices for our children, especially when they are unnecessary? The behaviors involved are dangerous. Accepting these attractions is not kind nor ‘safe,” but just the opposite.

Tas, Truthatschool.org 19 Comments [3/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22156

Can you believe that we actually have schools that won’t tell children heterosexuality is healthier than homosexuality? Yet how much money is going into these same schools for AIDS education? Is there something nonsensical about this picture?

Organize a Group to Fight the "Gay" Agenda in Your School

Relic, 123 Christian Forums 41 Comments [3/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22157

[Belief in spirit possession is almost extinct]

Try telling that to somebody who has been possessed. I was once possessed by a demon or demons....I know it happens. Why do you think they still call alcohol "Spirits?" It leads to demon possession, that is why. The only thing that can save you from this is to be saved by God through Jesus Christ....I know, because this is how I was saved from it.

elijahmohammad, "Does God Exist?" Multiply group 29 Comments [3/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: megastep

Quote# 22158

It would take atheists acquiring a working brain instead of the dead brains that they currently posess for them to believe in God.

George Yurich, CARM 21 Comments [3/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22161

More and more Britons are leaving God out of funerals. They say it's their way of celebrating the persons' life.

The rise is being attributed to people's growing willingness to admit that they are non-believers.

So how can you celebrate knowing the person is in hell?


I think leaving God out of a funeral is like leaving blood out of your body. If the dead person was not a believer, the last thing the friends/family should be doing is celebrating. Of course, that does make THEM feel better. But it does nothing for the guy burning in hell.

sandy, American Idol Chat 37 Comments [3/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22162

W's decision to get Saddam was supported by most of your liberal heroes until the public got tired of it. Now they're all backpeddling. Saddam needed to go. W was the only one with enough b@lls to do the job. Your friends the evil muslim terrorists from Iran and Syria are making sure the war stays going.
And your support for the terrorists emboldens our enemies and makes us look weak. binLaden loves you.

sandy, American Idol Chat 28 Comments [3/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22163

So you say that there is no way that being a homosexual(or should I say sodomite)is a choice. Well gee than if that theory is true, then that would mean that a terrorist didn't choose to become a terrorist, he or she was born that way.(no they werent born that way but they were raised that way) I have question- If a doctor told you that your child was going to be born a criminal-would you believe him? What is this world comming to. Poeple always want something else or someone else to blame instead of dealing with their choices. You can choose to be a sodomite or you can choose not to. You can choose to believe in God or you can choose not to. You can choose to have kids or you can choose not to. It is a choice. Any person who actually believes that they are a born sodomite or whatever is seriously blind. For all people who are into science-God created all things, humans, the universe, animals so on and so forth. In that he also created science-it is not his fault that people are either too stupid to understand it, or they just want to take something and twist it to condone their behavior. But then again this is just the sick and twisted world we live in and thankfully it will eventually come to an end.

Icebabe_2000us, Military.com 40 Comments [3/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Henson