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Quote# 21739

[How can sin change animals? They don't even have souls?]

Sure they do but that isn't why they were affected...(they have souls but not spirits)...the weather, and natural disasters don't have souls but were affected too. Of course I realize you aren't a believer...but pretend for a minute...if you were God and created a perfect world for the first people would you honestly put them on a planet that could kill them with hurricanes, tornados, famine, disease and deadly animals and call it 'good'? Probably not. The word 'good' is listed seven times in the first chapter of Genesis. Everything God created He deemed 'good' and good in His terms usually means perfect (would have to show you other scriptures, etc, on that but its late and I need sleep)...

When they sin it wasn't just them affected by sin...everything was. Just watch the news minus man's inhumanity to man and notice just the stories on famines, droughts, natural disasters...how many died a few days ago in those tornados? How many injuried...

moonglow, bibleforums 11 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21738

[Regarding immigrants and their children being treated inhumanely at a former Texas prison for committing no crimes. Includes two posts]

Burning Atlanta - Simple solution: Don't Come without permission, you jerks."Subpar schooling?" Subpar to what? The cesspool you left?

Here's how to handle it:"Gee, we're really sorry if you don't approve of the accomidations. Here's you're free ticket to fly you back to whatever dump you came from."


Double Standard - We got what you mean Burning Atlanta, and I agree. Substandard...ahahhah....you broke the law, what do you want a Four Seasons. Go home to your country, let them educate you. The ACLU is a horrible and dangerous group who are anti-American.

Burning Atlants & Double Standard, Topix Forums 9 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: llDayo
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Quote# 21737

LINDEN, Calif. -- A Stockton, Calif.-area businessman is peddling blessed bottled water.

The half-liter bottles of Holy Drinking Water are being distributed by Wayne Enterprises. They only carry the blessings of Catholic and Anglican priests, but company President Brian Germann plans to expand to other faiths.

He said he thought of the concept last year and has sold about 3,000 bottles since January at a Linden market and on the Internet.


He claimed the idea came to him on June 6, 2006, believed by some to be an ill-fated day because of the three sixes in 6/6/06, a Christian symbol of evil.

The bottles of plain purified water carry a label that warns sinners who drink the water that they may experience burning, intense heat, sweating and skin irritations.

NBC News, nbc6.net 42 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21733

[The pill has been a god-send. Not to get too TMI, but my periods were never THAT bad before I went on the pill (at 19). Then one month I stopped taking it because I went abroad and figured I wouldn't need it. Well, my period came back with a vengance!!]

Now if that don't prove how the pill traps you than I don't know what does. Wow! Did you ever stop to think that it was the pill's fault that your period came back with such a vengance? Did you ever stop to think that it was the pills fault that your periods are now more painful? Did you ever stop to think that it was the pills fault that you are now afraid to go off of it again? UMMMMMMMMM I'm thinking no. ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY PLANNED PARENTHOOD! THE PROVIDER OF PAIN AND SUFFERING. Now let's all be good little girls and turn a blind eye to it and embrace our womanhood that has been destroyed in the name of the almighty dollar!

HM3 Ratigan USN 1987-1993, Once a Doc Always a DOC, Myspace 35 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen
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Quote# 21731

the atheist feels they do not serve anything,yet they strongly
appear to not only serve but to strongly support radical liberal
views,or at least a great deal of them do.
For some reason Aliester Crowly tend to come up among many
of them,and I thought he was somewhat a satanist,or something
close along those lines?
If atheist's are such free-thinkers as they say,why must they all
appear to accept the idea of evolution.
Why is TOE so important to them?

slappingfox, CARM 24 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21730

If athiesm is true you may worship nothing but if christianity is true you are a creature worshipper. Your response "I don't worship anything" actually proves that you are not in line with what the Creator says about you. Which means you are definitely not honouring God in your statement, "I don't worship anything". We all do according to christianity. There is no in between there are either Creator worshippers or creature worshippers so if Christianity is the gospel truth then your statement that "I don't worship anything" would be an evidence to a christian that you in fact are a creature worshipper. Now to an athiest it is evidence that he/she is in line with athiesm for athiesm doesn't at all take Romans 1 into account or that he/she is a creature and should do all things to His glory of his/her Creator whether that be eating or drinking. That is fine. But to just say "I don't worship anything" and some how we christians are going to abandon the thus saith the LORD in Romans 1 on your say so. I just don't think we are prepared to take your say so into account at this point. We are Creator worshippers by His grace in Christ not athiest worshippers!!!!

Timotheus, CARM 18 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21728

For instance, how am I to take you atheists seriously when you post something like this after I ask for PROOF, yes, that's right, MPC, proof and what does SPIN give me? An unsubstantiated statement such as this:

"There was no universal flood 5000 years ago. Archaeology has frequently proved this claim inaccurate."

How do you expect me to take you Atheists seriously? If this were a court of law and a man was on trial because someone just said he murdered someone and in court the accusor was asked: ''What proof do you have that my client killed so and so?" And the accusor said: Well I heard it from someone who was told it from someone who was told it from someone.

And the judge said: Well that's all we need for proof! Hang him high!

I'm sure you atheists would say that's O.K. especially if it were you who were wrongly accused!

Tony N, Internet Infidels 43 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21726

People of the West of the Pope, are all inherently worshipping the devil, they have no consciousness of Allah, Exalted is He! and rely on the Pope to continue with this order of injustices and suffering in the world and lies and hatred of the truth. If I was to grip one person in the world for the suffering and injustices in the world, I get the Pope.

It is only the devil worshippers who want to continue for the world to suffer, to keep people away from truth and to continue worshipping the devil in their lives.

How have I found the people in the West, and left them dumbfounded with label devil worshippers. By looking through history and interpreting it, to show them the fallacy of the Trinity and how it effects the believers in Trinitarian, in that it makes them devil worshippers.

I shall not reveal to you my reason other than the one that means, if they were in the Jesus ' place and his situation they would have worshipped the devil. Isn’t that the reason that these people are all saying the devil can grant power on earth, so let us worship the devil.

The devil says 'look at him, look at him now' - points to Jesus on the cross
And they say, 'we hear you, we obey you, we worship you"
But when they see Jesus as they presumed raised from the dead, they say,'Jesus u r Lord, we worship u'-

Then they are confronted with the Jewish scriptures and decide God is one of three, and hold firm to their idea that Jesus is a god, which is all because they are all devil worshipping until Jesus comes back, then they are left dumbfounded, and make Jesus the worshipped but by doing so they are worshipping the devil, if they do that. For there is no god, except Allah, and Muhammad is His messenger.

kashif786, C4forums 17 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21725

[In response to this story: <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0301103112.htm" target="_blank">about the Earth's crust missing in the Atlantic</a>.]

A.Rachel: Made me think of this: "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the second month—on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth ..." (Gen 7:11)

BlessHisName: I think that it's hell opening up. The Mahdi has to leave hell before hi can come up out of the well, doesn't he?

Gamer4Christ: Here is something to think about. Do you think that missing piece is the moon?

Multiple, Rapture Ready 27 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Nickstr5
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Quote# 21723

[Continuing the thread about feeling something touch you during prayer]

I feel really weird sharing this but...lately, whenever I seem to pray, my CAT seems to 'meow' and rub on my leg. Yes, this is a friendly cat normally but it seems every time I start to pray, my cat does this. This could be
1)God telling me he's listening.
2)Satan distracting me
3)I AM LOSING MY MIND.

ready2leave, Rapture Ready 72 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Evil Doer
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Quote# 21722

I was praying to Jesus,and this particular day,I was able to spend "quality" time alone with Him in prayer because the rest of my family had gone away for most of the day. I was going through an awful lot and was so thankful that I was able to spend time with Jesus without all the noise and commotion going on in the house,anyways,as I was praying,I felt a touch,a gentle but firm touch on the side of my head(I was kneeling down with my head resting on it's side on my Bible) and my first reaction was to quickly open my eyes and look to see who it was, and of course nobody was there(there wasn't anyone in the house except for me & Jesus),and immediately,I realized that it must have been Jesus,and so I continued praying and felt His comforting and powerful presence so strong.

His Child, Rapture Ready 33 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Evil Doer
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Quote# 21721

The atheist view of the world. I am an atheist. I don't believe in GOD or a GOD (except for myself). If there is no GOD I can bend the rules to fit my lifestyle and be ok with it. If there is no GOD them my morals are relative. I can fornicate and it's ok, I can be homosexual and it's ok. I can kill little babies and say it's my body I can do what I want with it. I can believe in some nut named Darwin who thinks everything came from nothing. Science is my only GOD (aside from myself that is). I am an atheist and this life is all there is. Live it like there is no tomorrow. This is all you have so do whatever makes you feel good as long as you can rest peacefully each night.

The atheist is a liar, a pawn of Satan. The TRUTH "will" be revealed.

Nothing But The Truth, Chillicothe Gazette forums 24 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: HeathenAngel
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Quote# 21718

If evolution were true, Jesus would have had no reason to come back to life. He would have done his bit serving his species or his genes, whichever flippant ad hoc distinction you want to make and He would have stayed dead. Only by staying dead could He have aided the evolutionary cycle by feeding future generations.

Did Jesus stay dead? No. Why? Jesus wasn't designed to stay dead, he was designed to be alive - praise be to the name of God!

We have an eternal destiny that evolution would have us forget. That eternal destiny is something you cannot avoid because you are designed in a way that you have to deal with it. Only Creationism can account for things like Jesus coming to life!

Gottservant, Christian Forums 40 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21717

taking an innocent life has always been wrong in the eyes of God. Note the emphasis on Innocent Life. For years now the Pro-choice community has attempted to use the bible to justify their desire and supposed right to slaughter their unborn children. They will always be wrong. no matter how often you attempt to gloss over the abortion issue abortion will always be the taking of an innocent life. You can't make killing an innocent child sound Patriotic, or american, or heroic or beautiful. Nor can you convince the pro-life world that abortion is a right guaranteed to all women. Killing is killing not matter how many times you gloss it over. Spending hours upon hours scouring the bible looking for loopholes will not convince any pro-life or God that abortion is not the killing of an innocent human being. Whether that human being be a newly concieved fetus or a 8 month 29 day old baby born a few days early it has a God given right to live. A right given to he or she by God and like or not only God can take away that right. He is the author of life. I know it is not what you pro-choice people want to hear. You don't want to hear that God has control over your lives, bodies and souls. Get over it. Behave and embrace all life and we will all be better because of it.

HM3 Ratigan USN 1987-1993, Once a Doc Always a DOC, Myspace 42 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen
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Quote# 21716

A woman should have her ovaries ripped out without anestiesia if she wants an abortion so bad, try a coathanger? Those women deserve to be exiled, its not right no matter what you say on abortion. Ignorant little girl

crip, Myspace 32 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen
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Quote# 21715

[In response to, "I will never stop using my brain. That way lies blind obedience."]

"Blind obedience" is exactly what we should be doing.

Jarad Christian, facebook 51 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jeremiah
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Quote# 21713

[Apparently the band Tool is the Antichrist...the Antichrist must have a new identity every week or there must be hundreds.]

I am not implying that Tool is the antichrist, although they very well could be. I am saying that Tool is a a bringer of evil from the dark one and everything they stand for is evil and corrupt.

I have seen what Tool music and videos have done to people. Stay on the side of righteousness and purity, accept Jesus Christ into your heart and you will be saved.

Most people will accept evil, in fact most people here will accept the evil point of view on this thread. Don't do what the people who accept evil do. Don't do what they do, surround yourself with righteousness and holyness. Jesus Christ will come to you and protect you. You will be saved.

Tool is a Tool, a Tool of Satan.

James ED, http://www.totse.com 18 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21710

<img src="http://riversedgecs.com/lol_athi.jpg">

bipper, Eyes on Final Fantasy 38 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Raistlin
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Quote# 21708

BurntBush : I hope that death for you is slow and painful.

Beccs : Perhaps you should kill yourself. Once less moron spreading hate would help the world.

[Note: Julian was submitted for something which wasn't even fundie and yet comments like this get ignored.]

BurntBush, FSTDT Comments 10 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21701

The Crusades...where were all the christians?

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I am studying the crusades right now. From what I can see the catholics were the ones doing all the bad stuff, yet in every book I read they say the christians, when in fact it was the catholics.

BUT you can not tell me that there were no non catholic christians in that time. So, where were they and why did they allow all of this happen?

I have to tell you, it drives me batty to hear people say "the christians killed all the jews and muslims in the crusades, blah blah blah. I know that the catholic church was the biggest then, BUT AGAIN, there had to be normal bible beleiving christians.

yellowbo, Rapture Ready 63 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21699

[comments about Ann Coulter]

I've read bits of her work like Godless, shes is totally right and has the right ideas at heart. Liberals and Liberal Democrats are the scum of the earth and are destroying what's left of our nations heritage...Kill EM ALL...in the name of God...and win the hearts of Muslims in the process...

evilgenious, Break.com comments 20 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: kent
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Quote# 21698

I am not saying that every woman that is raped was dressed immodestly. I was answering the scenario that lemuel gave to me. He said that she tempted him, and then said no. I think that in today's world that everywhere a man looks there are women dressed immodestly, and that causes the struggle to begin within each man. Many times it consumes his thoughts, and he can think of little else. Some men can control themselves, and some can't. You never know what man can or can not handle the constant onslaught of nakedness. The man who rapes will most likely be looking for an opportunity to present itself no matter how she is dressed. And for those who say that rape is not about lust but about power, then why rape? Why not just beat them? Yes the rapist should be held responsible and punished, but I think that every woman that dresses immodestly, every centerfold, or playboy bunny, every stripper lap dancer, or porno queen should share some of the responsibility for what they have driven the rapists to.

Mrs. Kellie, Teens-4-Christ 35 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21697

[QUOTE(Bro Randy)
As I said above, any romantic touch, outside of marriage, leads to a desire for more touching. Any teen guy who is alive and honest will admit that.]

I think I honestly have to agree with you now, even though I'm a girl. I don't even want to hug a guy again. A couple months ago a guy I liked (who liked me too) massaged my back for a few mintues; afterwards I knew that that was wrong because of the way it made me feel.

Disciple, Teens-4-Christ 57 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Archangel_Lucifer
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Quote# 21696

[Unless, of course -- the Ouija board is a silly childhood game, which has only the meaning we attach to it.]

That is not so. Monopoly is a game meant to learn about money. Ouija (it measn yes yes, what are we saying yes to?) was made as an entry point for demons. There are objects which demons are connected with. I do not care if you believe me or think its not so, it is.

HowardDean, Christian Forums 17 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: UberLutheran
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Quote# 21695

The only reason teens have sex like they do is because they know they can get an abortion and have it be done with. If that were taken away and abortion clinics shut down, do you honestly think that teens will continue constantly having sex, knowing that if they get pregnant they won't be able to get rid of the child? Again, if abortion is illegal, it will not stop abortions, but it will cut them down dramatically.

rebelEnigma, Christian Forums 65 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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