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Quote# 21382

["Are you saying god created 2 completley different species of human like creatures? Us AND them? And dont EVEN say Neandertals were exactly the same as us."]

The Neanderthals were actually humans who had bred with apes. That explains why they were so different and why regular humans oppressed them and eventually killed them off. Normal humans considered them inferior and treated them badly.

GodNeptune, Total War Center Forums 44 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21383

Before & After

Welcome to Gap Astronomy 101.

Attached to this thread are 2-dimensional visualizations of the "heavens ... of old," compared to the "heavens ... which are now." (2 Peter 3:5-7) Mercury, Venus, Earth with habitable Luna, Nibiru along with its satellite, otherwise known as Mars; and Tiamat, which is known in the Bible as Rahab. Judging by the scriptures, I would have to conclude that Tiamat/Rahab was the "capitol planet" of the interplanetary federation led by the Archangel Lucifer. Light from the Sun combined with light from a young star, Jupiter, provided a relatively temperate climate on Tiamat. The environment on Callisto was also quite pleasant!

<<Diagram of Brent's delusion and bible verses>>

When the Archangel Lucifer led his Angels to rebellion, judgment was poured out upon his dominion. The first event, I believe, was the removal of Nibiru from its orbit. God cast this planet into outer darkness, but not without colliding with Tiamat in its path. Tiamat was utterly destroyed. Today, the asteroid belt stands as a testimony of God's Judgment. Venus, Earth, Luna and Mars were bombarded with a portion of this planetary debris. In Psalm 89:9-10, the writer compares the destruction of Egypt to the annihilation of Tiamat:

<<More silly bible verses>>

The Angelic race which inhabited Venus, Earth, Luna, Mars, and Tiamat, and ultimately rebelled, were annihilated during this series of natural plagues. Notice that I didn't mention Nibiru? Well, it is my belief that some remnants of this Angelic race survived on the planet Nibiru and remain there to this day. These creatures will return in the last days and will, along with the Antichrist, establish the final kingdom foretold in Daniel 2:41-43:

<<More silly bible verses>>

Several thousand years passed by before fusion within the Jovian core ceased, leaving Jupiter as a large, gaseous planet. With exception of Venus, the Solar system plunged into an ice age. Earth remained lifeless and frozen for thousands, or possibly millions of years.

<<another bible verse>>

UNTIL...

<<another bible verse>>

During the six Creative days (of 24 hours each), God restored the Earth, Sun, and Moon, to their present state:

<<Another one of Brent's bogus diagrams>>

Any thoughts?


B®ent, Christian Forums 43 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21384

You are right, as individuals, we are not to resist persecution for our faith. As a nation, we are not to allow God's country to be overtaken by muslims and pagans. When you study the entire Word of God, you will see the origins of this conflict: Isaac vs. Ishmael. From there, the conflict grew. Ishmael choose not to obey God and fathered a nation which is, to this day living in rebellion to God. Second, God promised the seed of Isaac a nation and a certain parcel of land. Over time, the Devil, through the hand of the Muslims, have progressively taken that land from the children of God.

Now, we continue to see the results of Ishmael's rebellion. As a Christian nation, we must respect and support Israel. Becase we worship Jehovah - the God of Israel, we must reject the god of Ishmael. Because we reject the false religion of Ishmael, Islam, they have delcared war on us. This is a war we must fight.

As a nation, though, we are not fighting the religious war against Islam. We are fighting a war against terrorism. This is a war we must fight, but it is a war Christ will win!

Bro. Randy, Teens4Christ 44 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21386

In rape trials, the victim is almost always asked a question something like, "What were you wearing?"

Jesus said in Mat 5:28, "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."

Here is the point I want to make: modesty is essential. Rapist are attracted to those who are immodest. How often do we hear about kids and teens being kidnapped, raped and murdered. Then we see pictures of the kids only to see that they were not modest at all. Jean Bennet Ramsey was dressed, as a little child, like a scaled-down adult protestitute. What should we expect from the dregs of society? My point is simply this: I believe that if you knowingly dress in a way to attract guys, you are as guilty of adultery as the guys are. You are committing adultery with them. [emphasis original]

Bro. Randy, T4C 86 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21387

Just by the fact that jesus is they only one ever attacked constantly is enough evidance for me as a christian to beleive the bible. every cult out there all have one thing in common...they all teach "Another way" besides christ. this junk is not new..

drum32671, discovery.com 41 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21390

I understand atheists very well. We are all born with the belief of a God, atheists pretend this doesn't exist, it's like a "Fad". Of course these kinds of dishonest behaviors of lying to oneself is often associated with other perversions(like homosexuality).

Trinidad and Tobago, CARM 45 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21391

in the media, men are made to look like ignorrant and stupid. The feminist movement is satanist. Do not get me wrong, I dunno which to insult or put women down, but face the facts:

-Getting women to go to work was not a positive thing for women right, as many women love to believe. I is a scam by to illuminati to tax the other 50% of society.

-Getting women to leave the house is made so that they no longer have kids staying at home, instead children are being teacher in government sponsored mind control camps we call schools.

-Women are weaker than men, on average. They are more succeptible to brainwash and give in faster, because they are smaller and weaker. Long ago, women wer protected, remember *women and children first*? the illuminati wished to control the women and tricked them... how? Well the same way the devil always does: lie and create a false illusion of problem to then supply a solution. They told women that they were dumbed down and the society protecting them was an insult, and it was treating them badly. Women asked for an independance and now, they have the joy of stressful work life! what happens? Abuse at the office. And they cannot defend themselves!

-women are given this false idea of independance and motivated to go out on there own. What do we have? break up of society! I see many single parents and more and more divorce. Why? Because we are fooled into seeking more and better and loose what we already had. Divorces should not happen. People had set up good structures in place and once the *family unit* is divided, we have easily manipulable host. divide and conquer! A household divided amongst itsefl cannot stand!


the destruction of families and abuse of women is a great problem in our fast pace hell society and it has illuminati manipulation written all over it!

Azrael, The Resistance Manifesto 42 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21392

boy, get YOUR facts straight!! Hitler was the second Antichrist! he was no Christian or Catholic, you should have heard his rants against Christianity. you tell yourself what you want to hear though, that's what the Germans did, and you see how they ended up. dumb teenage athiests...grow up and get an education.


#186077, Fstdt! Comments 53 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21393

Ghosts are suppossed to be souls that don't know they are dead. So they are stuck to this earthly existense. Lost between the living and the dead realms.

But stop and think: what makes us think that God loses souls? that He can't grab them and put them where they belong?

Has some people "seen" ghosts? What they "see" is really a demonic spirit trying to foul that person into thinking that somehow God isn't in control. Another purpose is to make you want to try to communicate with a dead loved one. And that is absolutley forbidden.


Doxiemom, Rapture Ready 34 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21395

If all you are doing is surviving, you are basically the Devil.


Gottservant, christianforums.com 39 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Flatworm
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Quote# 21398

Why do atheists kill so many people?

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Communism is a direct consequence of atheism. They go together like peanut butter and jelly.

Of course I don't think all atheists are monsters, but by the very nature of what they stand for -- or don't stand for -- they often can't help themselves because they simply do not have a moral backdrop. It happens all over. The prisons certainly are not full with born-again Christians. They're bursting at the seem with villains who are infected with moral brain-rot. Of course there are exceptions but generally people who commit violent crimes are lost people.....likewise countries whos people commit wide-spread heinous, immoral, murderous acts are also non-Christian and spiritually lost.

So the question is...why do communists/atheists/non-Christians murder so many people?????


http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM


II 128,168,000 VICTIMS: THE DEKA-MEGAMURDERERS
4. 61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
5. 35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
6. 20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
7. 10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime

III 19,178,000 VICTIMS: THE LESSER MEGA-MURDERERS
8. 5,964,000 Murdered: Japan's Savage Military
9. 2,035,000 Murdered: The Khmer Rouge Hell State
10. 1,883,000 Murdered: Turkey's Genocidal Purges
11. 1,670,000 Murdered: The Vietnamese War State
12. 1,585,000 Murdered: Poland's Ethnic Cleansing
13. 1,503,000 Murdered: The Pakistani Cutthroat State
14. 1,072,000 Murdered: Tito's Slaughterhouse

IV 4,145,000 VICTIMS: SUSPECTED MEGAMURDERERS
15. 1,663,000 Murdered? Orwellian North Korea
16. 1,417,000 Murdered? Barbarous Mexico
17. 1,066,000 Murdered? Feudal Russia

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

With this understood, the Soviet Union appears the greatest megamurderer of all, apparently killing near 61,000,000 people. Stalin himself is responsible for almost 43,000,000 of these. Most of the deaths, perhaps around 39,000,000 are due to lethal forced labor in gulag and transit thereto. Communist China up to 1987, but mainly from 1949 through the cultural revolution, which alone may have seen over 1,000,000 murdered, is the second worst megamurderer. Then there are the lesser megamurderers, such as North Korea and Tito's Yugoslavia.


In sum the communist probably have murdered something like 110,000,000, or near two-thirds of all those killed by all governments, quasi-governments, and guerrillas from 1900 to 1987.

supersport, theology online 44 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21399

Let Them Eat Tofu!

Even right-wingers who know that "global warming" is a crock do not seem to grasp what the tree-huggers are demanding. Liberals want mass starvation and human devastation.

Forget the lunacy of people claiming to tell us the precise temperature of planet Earth in 1918 based on tree rings. Or the fact that in the '70s liberals were issuing similarly dire warnings about "global cooling."

Simply consider what noted climatologists Al Gore and Melissa Etheridge are demanding that we do to combat their nutty conjectures about "global warming." They want us to starve the productive sector of fossil fuel and allow the world's factories to grind to a halt. This means an end to material growth and a cataclysmic reduction in wealth.

There are more reputable scientists defending astrology than defending "global warming," but liberals simply announce that the debate has been resolved in their favor and demand that we shut down all production.

They think they can live in a world of only Malibu and East Hampton -- with no Trentons or Detroits. It does not occur to them that someone has to manufacture the tiles and steel and glass and solar panels that go into those "eco-friendly" mansions, and someone has to truck it all to their beachfront properties, and someone else has to transport all the workers there to build it. (And then someone has to drive the fleets of trucks delivering the pachysandra and bottled water every day.)

Liberals are already comfortably ensconced in their beachfront estates, which they expect to be unaffected by their negative growth prescriptions for the rest of us.

There was more energy consumed in the manufacture, construction and maintenance of Leonardo DiCaprio's Malibu home than is needed to light the entire city of Albuquerque, where there are surely several men who can actually act. But he has solar panels to warm his house six degrees on chilly Malibu nights.

Liberals haven't the foggiest idea how the industrial world works. They act as if America could reduce its vast energy consumption by using fluorescent bulbs and driving hybrid cars rather than SUVs. They have no idea how light miraculously appears when they flick a switch or what allows them to go to the bathroom indoors in winter -- luxuries Americans are not likely to abandon because Leo DiCaprio had solar panels trucked into his Malibu estate.


CRASH, theology online 43 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21402

If evolution is true, why don't scapegoats evolve?

Evolution wants to do away with the need for a Creator, so why not? If Christ is not necessary for Creation, perhaps scapegoats should evolve. A scapegoat would simply exist to bear the abuses of the rest of the species.

If you want to mould evolution to fit the evidence, you can always start with the placenta for scapegoat hopes. The placenta exists solely to feed the newborn child and dies when this job is done. Similarly we could expect to find scapegoats for entire species.

There is one problem with this theory though: God cares. There is no way that God would create a creature solely to suffer punishment; even Christ will rule in His Kingdom for a thousand years. The theory of evolution will never see evidence of scapegoat creations because God will not allow it: it is not part of the design!

Gottservant, Christian Forums 61 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jeremy PC
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Quote# 21404

That is not what I was saying here. The rapist certainly is responsible for his actions. However, if the girl involved has dressed immodestly, she shares that responsibility.

A few months ago, when I went to bed, I left some cookies out. When we got up the next morning, there were two smiling kids and cookie crumbs in living room. they were wrong for eating the cookies, and touching what was not theirs to touch, but I was also wrong for giving them a strong temptation. I should have removed the temptation from them. Likewise, a girl who dresses immodestly is setting up a temptation for men. Some men may be able to contain themselves and their thoughts. Other men may not be as strong. Their thoughts run away with them, and they lust after the flesh they see, but they are able to contain it at that. But men who are weaker still may not even be able to stop there. These men may go further and act on their desires. If a man commits rape, has he done wrong? Absolutely! If the woman tempted him, is she wrong as well? Sure is! This flies in the face of the sensibilities we have all been taught because we have believed a lie. We have believed that we can do whatever we want and there are no consequences to our sins. This is a lie.

[The scariest thing about this thread is that to every post Randy makes, there are at least 3 "amen!"s.]

Bro. Randy, Teens-4-Christ 70 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21406

[Discussing the upcoming movie "300"]

Wikipedia is made of entries that online users write...it's probably the worst source of information and least credible as far as accuracy on practically anything....try reading an original source or even books by Stephen Pressfield who wrote Gates of Fire about the battle. And as far as "good" and "bad" guys...every society and culture has an evil side to it. Veer away from God and His commandments and you're doomed. Persia and Greece's (along with Rome's and Babylon's) empires were already prophecied to be destroyed when Nebechenedzzer (sp?) had his dream interpreted by Daniel in the book of Daniel in the Bible. You can't take sides. God destroyed BOTH the Persians and the Greeks because BOTH were evil.

filmluvr81, IMDB Message Boards 29 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21410

PS People wonder why I'm so hestiant to get behind the idea of Global warming - it's because I sincerely believe that global warming sprang out of this earth charter thing and the UN's Agenda 21. I've reasearched and read up on the earth charter so much in the last few years I can't help it = Red flags just automatically go up when some of those same people (Maurice F. Strong for example) that were so invovled in the earth charter are now very pedominant in global warming. I can't help but be wary. It's that New Age, humanist package. Almost like they can't get people to buy into it one way so they package it differently and try to sell it another way

Blessedx4, Rapture Ready 20 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21411

Gravity: Doesn't exist. If items of mass had any impact of others, then mountains should have people orbiting them. Or the space shuttle in space should have the astronauts orbiting it. Of course, that's just the tip of the gravity myth. Think about it. Scientists want us to believe that the sun has a gravitation pull strong enough to keep a planet like neptune or pluto in orbit, but then it's not strong enough to keep the moon in orbit? Why is that? What I believe is going on here is this: These objects in space have yet to receive mans touch, and thus have no sin to weigh them down. This isn't the case for earth, where we see the impact of transfered sin to material objects. The more sin, the heavier something is.

Trinidad and Tobago, CARM 407 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21412

There is coming a day, maybe before the tribulation, where Churches will be closed and the Bible declared illegal as a "hate document".

Satan is predictable.

CanuckMedic, Rapture Ready 36 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21413

Not quite. Science has attempted(and was relatively successful) over the centuries in keeping the truth of the planet a secret. While the Church contended the earth was round, the scientists refused to accept it. Their own personal observations got ahead at what had been biblically mentioned far far before their time. This is the bottom line: Sceince changes its mind so often because it's wrong so often.

trinidad and tobago, CARM 38 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21414

[Are you serious ? You mean Galilei kept saying that the Earth is the center of the universe and was punished by the Church for that ?]

He was prisoned not because of his ideas--but because he was an agent of the Illuminati. He was activitly involved in malicious attempts to undermind the community, and was punished for it. His personal beliefs that the earth was the center of the universe was proven false by the church.

Trinidad and Tobago, CARM 58 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21415

Women in Israel are fighting a Rosa Parks-style campaign for the right to sit where they want on buses.

They claim men are forcing them to sit at the back because their clothes are too revealing.

The campaign against 'voluntary' segregation comes after the Haredi, or ultra- Orthodox community, increased 'modesty police' patrols of neighbourhoods and chastised women whose clothes were deemed inappropriate.

Protesters have compared their situation to that of Rosa Parks, a black seamstress from Montgomery, Alabama, who refused to give her seat to a white passenger on a bus in 1955.

Her arrest triggered protests which began the US civil rights movement.

Naomi Ragen, an ultra-Orthodox novelist, was told to go to the back of the bus by a group of men.

She explained that there were no signs on the bus regulating where passengers sat and no religious reason why there had to be segregation.

'For the entire ride I was subjected to this insulting and physically imposing presence,' she said.

'There was one man who was sweating over me, shouting, threatening me. I felt like Rosa Parks.'

She rang the bus firm but was told it was free seating, effectively meaning Haredi men could demand women sit at the back.

Ms Ragen and four other women have petitioned the country's Supreme Court over 'voluntary' segregation on buses.

One of the group's lawyers, said: 'It's like the Wild West. An American woman was beaten and spat upon a few weeks ago.'

The Supreme Court has given the government 45 days to respond to the petition.

The Haredi, Metro.Co.Uk 20 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Dave
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Quote# 21416

Well considering the fact that I am a writer and have been told many, many times how articulate I am, even on FSTDT, then if I write in a hurry, and don't use correct grammar, then because I'm not God, then I am prone to mistakes, just as you are. But since you seem to focus on grammatical errors, then i can just as easily go through the posts and point out yours.

But since I have no interest in playing one-upmanship games, I don't stoop to the level that atheists do. But I could, any time I wanted to.

Carico, CARM 56 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21421

I am 100% pro-life, unless we're talking about capital punishment, in which case I am 100% pro-death.

B®ent, Christian Forums 116 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Beckling
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Quote# 21424

I don't like a woman married to a woman. It makes me want to puke. I want to vomit when I hear it. I think it's child abuse.

Michael Savage, TMZ 74 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21434

It's just unbridled ignorance that makes people claim that the bible was written by fallible human beings. How many of you here can remember the genealogies of your friends and relatives? How many of you remember what each of them did and how many brothers and sisters each of them had?

How many of you remember how many gold dishes, silver dishes, gold bowls, matching silver bowls plates, pans you took out of your house in your last move as is described in the book of Ezra?

How many of you know how many horses, chariots, charioteers, and fighting men in the armies of Alexander the Great? How many of you know which specific Jews were killed in Nazi Germany and which were saved and their friends and relatives?

[...]

So it couldn't have been written by humans unless they had miraculous memories and minds that could foresee the future. And even then it would have had to have been cross-checked by others with a miraculous memory and minds to see into the future.

So those of you who deny the bible is anything but miraculous haven't possibly even comprehended how much detail is in there. So it's just pure ignorance thinking you can refute it. No other book is as accurate and detailed as the bible. And only foolish people ignore that and look for what they call errors. And I haven't even touched on the prophecies that have been fulfilled! Nor have I even begun to show the correlations and spiritual meaning behind the people, places, and events that exist in the bible.

So it's obvious that atheists not only don't understand the bible, but most of them haven't even read it. And they only look foolish in claiming that they or anyone could have done a better job of writing it than the authors did. One first has to understand the depth of meaning behind each verse and what it takes to write a book as accurate as the bible before he can claim that any fallible human or human(s) could write a book that accurate.

Carico, CARM 33 Comments [3/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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