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Quote# 22693

I'm very keen to read ever-negative email sent to Rapture Ready. Reading all the letters that disagree with the site helps me better understand why people have trouble with the end-time message. I use this information to help me refine the advice we offer to the public.

At the heart of many emails is content I identify as the "Sucker's Bet." These people view us "Doomsday Christians" as wasting our lives by endlessly waiting for a Lord who is never coming. They base their view on the idea that Jesus hasn't come in 2000 years, so this complete lack of activity should prove that He is not coming at all.

Some of these people bet they will have the satisfaction of watching me squander my life on a meaningless quest. But I'm not sure where they see the payoff. If I outlive them, there is no payoff. The only wager I see is their hope that Jesus doesn't come back and bring their carefree existence to a premature end.


When I respond to people, I reply to the real issue they are secretly addressing. People normally write me because they are bothered by events that confirm Bible prophecy. I point out to them that prophetic fulfillment is the real reason they're mad at me, and I warn them by saying, "If my luck with the end-time signs doesn’t run out soon, yours will.

Todd Strandberg, Rapture Ready 13 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 22692

Any physical contact between a dating couple that is an expression of affection is sexual in nature and causes feelings of desire that cannot be legitimately fulfilled outside of marriage. Because a desire that cannot be legitimately fulfilled outside of marriage (lust) is created, that contact is a sin. This means that a kiss between a dating couple, outside of marriage, is a sin.

Bro Randy, T4C 47 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 22691

Moothers can look at a girl and see through the polite attitude and pretty face down to the heart of the girl. They can tell you if you have fallen for the wrong type of girl, or confirm that the girl you are interested in is a good choice. Fathers can also help their daughters in the same kind of way. They understand what is in the heart and mind of the young men, and how the intentions for the innocent young girl are not so innocent. In addition to this, your parents can also give you a way of escape from someone who may not be right for you. Since their authority is final, if they say you should not see someone, the discussions is settled.

Bro Randy, T4C 37 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 22690

In many cases, pornography has been attributed to becoming something of a stepping stone. Some have began by looking at the lingerie section of mail order catalogs, then progressed to images of full nudity, then to sex acts, and so on. Eventually, what may have begun as simple curiosity becomes desire. Then, that desire can no longer be satisfied through the images. In some of these cases, the pornography has led men to commit sexual crimes. Most of those who have committed rape will admit that the seed to their desire to commit their crimes was pornography.

Bro Randy, T4C 29 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 22689

"I just believe there are places for men and places for women in society b/c the sexes are not equal."

[Everyone is created equal retard. This is America. Now go back to Iran.]

"Do men and women have the same body types?? no they don't."

[So what you are saying is women aren't equal because they aren't the same body type. I hate to ask this but do you love freedom? Since you seem to hate others who express their freedom.]

"For thousands of years women stayed home and things were fine. Women are too weak, too mean and too PMSey to handle power. Look at your Hillary, that old witch wrote the book on menopause and PMS."

proudrepublican81, IMDB 43 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 22685

God is Jesus,Jesus is God-If buddha was someone special he would have mentioned the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

He fails and is a false prophet thats going to lead loads of ignorant souls with him to hell.

Can you imagine getting rid of an evil spirit(demon) in the name of buddha?
Healing a sick person in the name of buddha?
Doing spiritual warfare in buddha's name?

Nope.... it just won't happen!

freedomwarrior, The Resistance Manifesto 35 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 22684

And, in all other things, obey your husband. And do what he tells you to do. For he is your God ordained boss (and slavemaster)! Yes, the Man is to be King of his own Clan (Family) and the Noble Lord of his own Castle (home)!

ZDK Ministry of Family, Female Subjection 31 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 22683

The sad thing is that the majority of the press and the Hollywood types assume that anyone who is Christian is also a cATHOLIC. With that assumption, it is fair to call Christianity a cult.

Bro. Randy, Teens 4 Christ 39 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 1

Quote# 22682

Women are immoral for the most part. They each need a good man to show them restraint and morality in this life. Unfortunately we live in a world dominated by trashy slimeberal media that promotes hip hop, rap, and other foul, un-Godly, un-American garbage.

But yes, everyone realizes that conservative women are really really hot. Not that I would know though, as I have taken a vow of celibacy, as should you.

To see some truly sexy women you must go to an anti-abortion rally.


Oh Lord, please take these lurid feelings from my heart.

ConservativeWarrior, IMDB 37 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 22681

18 year old crashes minivan into utility pole and dies. The 18 year was drinking and driving and had taken his mother's minivan without her permission.
Choices he made.
1. Took minivan without mother's permission.=theft.
2. Drinking and driving He knew that drinking and driving was wrong= reckless behavior.
Utility pole was damaged= power outage ???? unclear
Police notified his mother of the accident and death.Thankfully no one else was involved.
Now this woman will have to bury her son and hopfully the damage to the minivan can be repaired

This 18 year old made choices to disobey GOD's Will.One theft of a car;and choiceing to drink while driving.
These were his last acts of conscience behavior.
When a person makes a deliberate choice to disobey GOD and dies,in the act of disobedience,they go straight to hell.

boscorelli, Courttv.com Message Boards 30 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 22680

How did the universe come into existence? What is the origin of life? Did man evolve from animals? For decades, science has tried to answer these questions by using the theory of evolution. Now, as science continues to probe deeper into the mysteries of life and the universe and pushes back the horizon of the unknown, more and more scientists are coming to agree with the position that the Bible has declared for thousands of years - that there is a transcendant Creator who designed and formed the universe with intelligence and purpose, and that man is the culmination and crowning work of that creative act. The idea that random processes resulted in the multi-myriad complexities of life, even over billions of years, is simply far inadequate as an explanation. New discoveries are confirming this all the time. Biblical ideas that scoffing scientists once dismissed as foolishness are being re-examined.

David Benoit, Fillthevoid.org 16 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 22679

HELL does exists,it is a real place. CHRISTIANITY JUDISM,
HINDUISM,ZEN BUDDHISM and ISLAM all believe and teach ,there is a place called HELL.

GOD doesn't send anyone to HELL.People make their conscience choices,through the freedom of their wills.
John Couey has been convicted of kidnapping,child molestation and murdering;burying alive his victum JESSICA.
On the various links surrounding this case,everyone was calling for the death penalty and freely talked about the pains in HELL he would recieve.
I have heard of the Harry Potter books;but have no intention of reading them.

People have the freedom to deny the very existence of HELL,as they so please.

boscorelli, Courttv.com Message Boards 36 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22675

It’s not their body to flaunt. It belongs to Christ and their future husband. How dare they flaunt something that God did not permit them to flaunt? How dare they write a check the Bible doesn’t allow them to cash?

Anonymous, Rebelution Modesty Survey 40 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 8
Submitted By: Sayna

Quote# 22674

Will Hillary be the first female president? Many think so. If so, will she announce to the world that she is a homosexual lesbian after securing the Office of President? The reality of such wickedness is upon America today. Expect a pack of lies from Senator Clinton if she does run for the Presidency. FOX News has already by trying to whitewash Hillary by claiming that she's actually starting to move towards the "right" concerning abortion and other issues. Don't you believe it! Hillary is as left as they come, a Jezebel in disguise.

David J. Stewart, jesus-is-savior 32 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 22673

[From "10 Ways to Practice Purity"]

Acknowledge Jesus' presence on every date.

10 Ways to Practice Purity, Christianity Today 39 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22672

Charles Darwin married a close relative and had many children with defects.

He died and was a mental case his last years

Coadie, CARM 40 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 22671

Coadie : The European union wants to make homophobia illegal. That has to bring in the thought police.

How can they measure someones thoughts or fears about something they oppose? What if they strongly oppose homosexuality and have zero fears?

Is there a meter to detect phobia? Gays have rights. Those are easier to detect violation. If a gay wants to casually toss a label on someone as being homophobic, they are guilty by accusasation? In civil cases there must be damage. That will be hard to prove.

Richard Lamb : I wonder will the same bill include hetero-phobia provisions.

Christdependent : The real issue behind this push for societal acceptance of homosexuality is the intention to silence anyone who says it is wrong. Control of the language is where all oppressive political regimes begin, and in light of the fact that Jesus is identified as the "living WORD," and Satan is the father of lies, no one should be surprised.

Coadie,Richard Lamb and Christdependent, CARM 9 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 22670

There is a case going through the federal courts about a high school student who was barred from wearing a tee-shirt expressing his religious point of view on homosexual behavior at school. The interesting thing here is that this happened the day after other students were allowed to wear t-shirts supporting homosexual behavior.

I keep seeing Christians called bigots on this board for expressing our Christian viewpoint, but where is all this righteous indignation when we are the ones being discriminated against. Isn’t it amazing how some people only complain against bigoted discrimination when they want to have there own way, but when an obvious case of unreasonable discrimination comes along not one word is said word is said by the same people and groups.

Thorny, CARM 22 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 22669

Homosexuality is totally illogical and totally evil because God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. And the New Testament clearly states that homosexuals shall not inherit the Kingdom Of God. And thus logical and analytical thinking dictates that if homosexuals are not gaining entrance into Heaven then logically homosexual activity should be totally outlawed.

George Yurich, CARM.org 46 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22668

God exists becasue I say he does

(1) the senese of the relaity of God is unqiue and intautve. if you don't have it you just dont' have it. But the verfication of it is the working out of sueprnatural effects in the life of the believer.

(2) God is the Transendental signfiider, there will always have to be a thing at the top of the metaphysical hierarchy and that thing is God.

the atheist is stuck, there cannot not be a God, and that is borne out by the reilgius a prori in the live of the believer.

Metacrock, CARM.org 56 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22667

How many herein have been told by intellectual yet spiritually dim witted professors, that “no science minded person could ever believe what scripture states concerning Jesus Christ”? How many atheist and, agnostics, other skeptics, scoffers and doubters alike have opened their eyes to the fact that the media is biased, politically and otherwise? How many atheists, agnostics, other skeptics, scoffers and doubters have taken the time to do some serious research since they originally made up their mind not to believe?
Don’t those who rely so heavily on man’s finite wisdom and understanding realize that that understanding evolves?

No, the Christian cannot currently prove to the nonbeliever that God exists, no more than a person can prove the beauty of a sunset, or a rainbow to a blind person. One can personally enjoy that beauty though. They can also bask in the warmth and beauty with another who sees. Does the blind person deny that beauty and warmth? Though they can feel the warmth, do they deny the existence of the beauty?

Glorybound, CARM.org 21 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 22666

I know, and believe me, I completely understand what you're saying. Unfortuantely, that doesn't stop them. We have to think about how to stop them from destroying all our rights as Christians. Just pointing out that it's a private school will never stop them so we're wasting our breath. You're right, of course, but they are bent on social revolution, and will keep right on going until they get more support to pass their hate crimes laws. Once it's THE LAW, we lose all our rights to preach & teach Christianity freely.

It makes all the sense in the world to them because they feel this is a civil rights issue, and they want to stamp out what they view as bigotry. Everywhere we run, everywhere our kids take cover, they follow, because they want our KIDS. It's about recruitment and force. They want to take down the entire moral landscape.

Most people don't even know this is happening. Is it on the news? Most people have their kids in public schools, do they care about Christian schools or homeschoolers? I think they just view us as stuck up, old-fashioned and ignorant. Apathy will cover this up until it turns extreme, and by then, we will look like the ones at fault to the general public. We are annoying to the avarage person living in the world, thinking all is well. More & more people are going to cheer to bring the Christians down off all moral ground.

If all we do is say that it's a private school, they can happily continue to advance. What do they care? Private, public, they just want to stamp us out. They want hate laws to make it illegal for anyone to say what the Bible says. They want to take our rights away, and they are succeeding. Look at the judges, the politicians, the media, the ACLU, and how the attacks come on some many levels and on different fronts. The average person on the street thinks we are religious nuts for believeing the Bible! We're facing a social revolution.

Many Christians are just trying to peacefully go their own way, privately hanging on to their faith (while others have compromised it). Either way, we've given up a lot of ground. These radicals are not content to live & let live. It's about gaining total control over the next generation so they can have absolute power. We better figure out a strong response while we still have a voice

Kyrie Eleison, Rapture Ready 12 Comments [3/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 22665

1) We should fight terrorism every where it raises its ugly head. But I mean really fight it. Be as brutal as they are.

2) Fight terrorism w/ covert operations and assissinate their leaders when possible. If there's a training camp, blow it off the face of the Earth. If you're caught in our country, you go to jail until you die.

3) Sadam thing was fine with me, but why waste time w/ the trial.

4) Iran - nuke their nuclear facilities. Make a crater where they used to be. Overthrow their government and let the people decide what kind of gov't they want. We control the oil, but we'll make sure you get a lot of the profits unless you start screwin with us again.

Afghanistan - we should have completely leveled the mountains where bin laden is/was hiding on 9/12. No warning, no nothin', just had it rain nuclear bombs on the whole place.

Sudan - force the UN to go in with us and straighten the mess out.

5) see #1, hunt them all down and kill them or put them in prison until they die.

6) it's war, kill them

7) Iraq now - take care of Iran would be one huge step. Send enough troops over to completely blanket the place and hunt down all the bad guys. They can have their country back once we wipe this cancer off the face of the Earth, until then go to work and make something of yourself and your country.

8) Israel should be protected at all costs. Instead of giving up land, they should expand and take more land from the muslim countries. Every time one of the muslim countries steps out of line, invade them and take over. After you do that about two times, I'm sure the rest will behave.

9) Gay marriage - marriage is defined in the US as a man and a woman. Don't like it, move to France or Switzerland or wherever your little heart desires.

10) Abortion - well that's murder. Here's an idea, don't get pregnant. As in the case of rape, well let's just say that wouldn't happen a lot if I were in charge. We would have HUGE prisons and LONG sentences and very few paroles. Nip that in the bud right now!

11) Poverty - if you are able and willing to work get a job. There will be a lot of them, because we wouldn't have illegal aliens in my country and companies would face heavy taxes if they outsource to other countries. I would help educate and train people so they can get a job. After a few years, they should be able to support themselves. You get three years of welfare and food stamps, so you need to get busy.

12) Homelessness - see #11. Those that are mentally unfit to take care of themselves would be taken care of. A lot of homeless have mental problems, they need to be helped and cared for.

You didn't ask, but drug use would be penalized as harsh as dealing. Go ahead and smoke that joint, I hope the high lasts 5 years. Snort that coke, I hope the high lasts 20 years, because thaat's how long you're going away for. We'll cut the demand really fast.

C. Little, CARM 56 Comments [3/28/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 22664

hmmm If I was president every Mormon temple and muslim Mosque would be closed and bulldozed so people would not like that.

mark3274, CARM 32 Comments [3/28/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 22661

You could come from the point of view that the rainbow belongs to Christians, and we should redeem it, taking it back from those who stole it.

FallingWaters, Christian Forums 33 Comments [3/28/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Roxel
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