Quote# 22533

This Richard Carrier guy says that naturalism is incompatible with theism and that many of our politicians are closet Godless. Does he not know that the very heavens praise the name of God?

He was in the armed forces. Why would the government ever voluntarily put firearms in the hands of a Godless human being? If God doesn't matter to him, how could ANYTHING, much less the life of his superiors or fellow citizens?

I'm tired of these atheists coming out and trying to convince me that my faith in God and Christ Jesus the Lord his Son is some kind of a "delusion." God is real and I feel him in my heart as certainly as Mr. Carrier obviously feels hatred towards Him. If God doesn't exist, then what exactly is Mr. Carrier rebelling against?

Homoousia, NationStates Forum 23 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22523

The reason there is still evil is because those beings who chose to be evil were given the right to be evil. Righteously, therefore, God deals with it properly, not like puff the magic dragon, it happens then it gets stopped in a second, but in due time it gets erradicated. For example, Hitler had his short time, then he was stopped. Similarly, the coming Antichrist will do his nasty and be stopped in a few short 7 years, then be cast into hell for all eternity. In otherwords, that will never happen again.

A Friend aka Churchwork, Fstdt! Comments 131 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22524

I don't [need evidence]. I have God on my side. God doesn't need evidence.

gipper, Christian Forums 32 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22526

Those talented and clever Egyptians... all kinds of theories have been put forward as to how they could build such marvellous pyramids and be so clever with their astronomy, physics and so on.

How could human beings be hunting apes for 100,000 years then suddenly build pyramids? Many doubt that we could build the pyramids with such precision with today's technology.

From a creationist point of view, it is entirely reasonable that the Egyptians were so clever. They were closer relations to Adam than we are. God did not create a stupid man, he created a genetically superior man who had great intellect. His descendents also were very clever and skillful- Noah etc.

The extraordinary skill and know-how of the Egyptians cannot be explained by "evolution" i.e. from 100,000 years man/ape hunting, then building pyramids.

scarlets79, CARM 28 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22491

I sometimes think that the cheerleaders for the homos and their putative rights are actually ecologists, who are happy that at least
these people will not be reproducing and filling the planet with any more detestable human beings...

A good evolutionist, if you'll pardon the contradiction in terms, would indeed encourage homosexuality as a viable option in the hope of making other adults de facto infertile, and having more of the space available in coming generations set aside for one's own offspring.

Uncle Davey, Usenet: free.christians 33 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Vyoma

Quote# 22496

[Whether abortion is legal under the US Constitution is not a question of religion.

By the same token would you prohibit schools from teaching that the Earth is about 4.5 billion years old just because some religious opinions do not recognize reality?]

Yep, and you would choose to teach my kids something you call reality but cannot be proven.

I hate to tell you this, but the Constitution is like the Law of Moses. It shows the need for a Saviour. The law cannot satisfy everyone. The law cannot be just for everyone. There will be no true justice until Christ is King.

Lisa0315, Christian Forums 30 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: JustinGG

Quote# 22498

If evolution was true then we would see animals with 6 legs

Dwayne Dibbley, ABC Online Forum 77 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22500

[Sadly not. According to gallup's last poll only 99.86% of people with a relevant ( biological ) degree accept evolution.]

Well, until I get a "relevant ( biological ) degree" ... no ... skip that ... if I had a "relevant ( biological ) degree", I'd be in the .14 percentage.

AV1611VET, Christian Forums 30 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: JustinGG

Quote# 22501

Evolution is thought of as fact by many people, but not because they have examined the evidence for it and concluded the thooery is correct. No, instead they have been spoonfed a hoax by scientists who cover-up anything they find that implies creation in science. Such is the case with thousands of artifacts found around the world. They sit in boxes in the basements of museums and universities, and the general public is not given privy to even knowing they exist, much less being able to examine them. If you meet with one of the directors of these institutions and ask to examine thier artifacts, you will be asked to show your credentials which varify that you have a PhD or at least a Master's and are in need of seeing them for a scientific reason. If they don't like you or if you are a Christian, you don't get in to see them.

ElderMan, FileFront Gaming Forums 21 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22502

"Some Christians believe in evolution." or "Some evolutionists believe in creation." Afterall, isn't a Christian or someone of any religion who believes that God created life through evolution (but he didn't) actually an evolutionist> Isn't every evolutionist that believes that God created life through evolution a God-believer? Indeed they are. However, none of this proves the message you were trying to convey: that Christianity has lost out to evolution and that evolution is slowly replacing belief in creation as defined by the holy scriptures. This claim that you were attempting to convey is slanted, because it attempts to provide justification which is contrary to the numbers. The fact is that the world is slowly getting more religious. Millions more people now believe that there is a "divine being" or creator of some kind that did 100 years ago. This is partly due to the fact that many people around the world in countless nations have converted or been converted to one religion or another.

ElderMan, FileFront Gaming Forums 8 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22473

evolution is a stupid bold faced lie pitifully masked with scientific jargon. we cant live without lungs a heart or blood at anytime if so what came first a finger? one leg? an eye?.

hikari4light, Youtube 18 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22474

Psychiatry is unscientific: "mental illness" is a myth. The Bible never speaks of anyone being mentally ill, only that they have sin or seared consciences.

Kent Smithers, The Fraud of Modern Psychiatry 61 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22475

I know you all think I'm an ass, and I don't blame you. My life sux. Hate me if you must cuz I just know Jesus hates you all. And Jesus just pities most of you. I'll see you all in Hell. You know what? If any of you crack whores comment me on how weird and gross i am, yeah, Jesus REALLY hates you. I am a bible nerd cuz I'm afraid that one day I may Fall into an infinite death


yeah, whatevr. I have a secret than NO ONE knows.. something horible is going to happen to the world... and only God and I know what.....

For now I tell you this; there is a serpent in the heart of the nation disguised in the robes of the messiah..

emochild224, Quizilla 43 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Raptor Jesus

Quote# 22476

(Newborns respond to stimuli, and they have a nervous system capable of basic thought.

There's a huge difference between being asleep and not having a brain, in case you were wondering about that, too.)

but, there is no difference in the care that is provided

like it or not.. when you are pregnant.. you are a mother.. that is your child

if you arent expected to provide necessary biological support to your child.. then, who the FUCK ARE YOU to make someone else care for them? (the father.. the taxpayer.. etc.).. and WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU to demand care from anyone?

contradict the liberal basis of our constitutional law.. thats fine

but, live according to your own contradiction

if you dont.. fuck off you stupid hypocrite

Propaganda, Myspace 21 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 22482

[Heavy work pants were essential when women took over men's jobs at factories during WWII.]

Key thought here - Women took over the men's jobs! I understand that companies were very short-staffed during WWII and women were called upon to keep the country going - BUT - as soon as the men came home those women should have headed back home to fulfill their original purpose as keepers at home! However, that is not the topic here - just wanted to get that thought in there. There is NO reason why the ladies could not do those jobs properly attired as a lady. It was just simpler to put on the man's pants than to become creative in their ladylike dress...... Although these women were hard workers at their new jobs, they failed miserably at remaining the ladies they once were.

Mrs Debbie, Teens-4-Christ 64 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Archangel_Lucifer

Quote# 22483

[Thread about dresses vs pants]

I know some people say that there are some activities you cannot do in a skirt or culottes and be modest. I would agree. For example, I could see how it would be hard for a woman to be a skydiver in a skirt and be modest. I can see how it would be impossible for a woman to perform acrobatics in a skirt and be modest. I have heard people say it is hard to climb a tree in a skirt and be modest (I've also heard of girls climbing trees in a skirt ). I would suggest this: if you cannot do something in a skirt and be modest, perhaps you shouldn't do whatever that 'something' is. I'll give you an example: Kellie loves to go to waterslides. I love to swim. It is impossible for us to go to a water park or the beach and keep me from seeing things I shouldn't. It is also difficult for Kellie to go down a waterslide and be modest. So, we don't do waterparks. We have chosen to sacrifice pleasing our flesh for the sake of pleasing God.

Bro. Randy, Teens-4-Christ 61 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Archangel_Lucifer

Quote# 22486

This comes as no surprise to me. I've been saying for years that we need to be prepared because the kind of persecution believers suffer in places like China is coming here, and I think it's going to come on very quickly. It starts with gagging Christians so we can't say anything in public and swiftly - very swiftly - progresses to hauling us before courts and magistrates, and then to "re-education" facilities, and finally to execution chambers.

I tire of the people who say "it's not going to happen here, blah blah blah". Wake up - it already IS happening here. I also tire of the people who say "God promised us we wouldn't suffer". Uhm no He didn't. He promised us Christ would be with us, even to the end of the age. And He promised that we would not suffer His wrath. But all else is fair game - going through heinous persecution, in danger of death, having your property confiscated - all of that and more.

mikitta, Rapture Ready 28 Comments [3/25/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22428

nothing in science can ground your percetions in reality because you still percieve science with your perceptions. If your perceptions are illusions then science is an illusion.

Metacrock, CARM 52 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22431

*In response to a question about whether or not muller21 would worry about his brother who is in hell, while muller21 is in heaven*

if i did than God will confurt me or ill be ocupied worshiping God and doing glorious things and wont worry about it they had their chance

muller21, http://forum.bodybuilding.com 18 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: John

Quote# 22433

John, if there were truly that many [transitional fossils] then why isn't there hundreds of pictures of them online? I see roughly the same very small few so called transitional forms when I actually do see a fossil. There are hundreds of sites on this stuff, so why don't they post real pictures instead of something out of a sci-fi book?

Am I truly going to find unarguable evidence in fossil warehouses of tons of clear (unshaped by man) transitional species? I have a strong feeling I won't but I would love to visit them.

Invisionary, YoungComposers 22 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22434

[Re: <a href="http://www.therebelution.com/modestysurvey/browse">a survey about women who "flaunt" their bodies</a>]

They make me wary and uncomfortable. The first thing I plan to consider in my wife (besides being a Christian) is whether she has pursued the battle for purity all her life.

Anonymous male, age 14, Rebelution Modesty Survey 42 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sayna

Quote# 22435

If all I ever knew were common composers of average skill and then I found a work like Bach's Mass in B minor, then the natural conclusion would be "This must have taken a lifetime to write!" I would judge it this because I see things through the eyes of common men - being I never knew of such a thing as a musical genius of the likes of Bach. Did Bach really spend a lifetime writing that Mass? No, but according to my good logic I would think it took the composer a lifetime to write something of such fine craftsmanship.

So if God is the Master Composer of all things (far greater than Bach) then wouldn't He be able to work in such a way as to make something appear to take much longer than what it actually did? Surely an Almighty Being could bend, stretch, and compress time and processes as He so desired. If 99.99999999% of all men cannot even compose as well as Bach, then isn't it beyond arrogance to think you really know the details of how the world was created?

Invisionary, YoungComposers 29 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22436

Please don’t take modesty lightly. As your brother in Christ I value the relationship that I will have with my wife someday. When I am tempted because of you I lose a part of myself that I am trying to save for her. When I’m tempted because of you I become that much more accepting of the perversions in the world. When you remain pure and modest, my life is made so much easier. Instead of watching to ensure that I don’t sin I can focus on you as a person and fellow follower of Christ. I appreciate modesty more than you’ll ever know. Please, show respect of yourself and of me and be modest.

Anonymous male, age 16, Rebelution Modesty Survey 33 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sayna

Quote# 22437

Evolution is not a religion? If I recall correctly, and I do, evolutionists "believe" that the world started with a big bang. An explosion, what exploded? Where did this explosive material come from? What caused it to explode? Has there ever been another instance in known history in which an explosion created something? Was this explosion observed and tested as all true science is?
Believe what you want and disbelieve what you want. What it boils down to is that I "believe" in the beginning God, and evolutionists "believe" in the beginning KA-BOOM!

As to there being intelligent life on other planets it simply hasn't been observed! But what about all those UFO sightings? What about them - they are Unidentified Flying Objects! And those out of place fossils that scientists are finding everwere? Those only prove that our ancestors of yesteryear were pretty smart! What about crop circles? Disgusting waste of HUMAN time and effort that quite often includes trespassing and vandalism. etc.

JamesFLC, YoungComposers 24 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22438

Baphomet, the half male, half female goat god of the Knights Templar, was revived by Eliphas Levi, the infamous 19th century Freemason and magician and reportedly is worshipped today by homosexual cults.

David J. Stewart, http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/ 44 Comments [3/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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