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Quote# 25870

[when asked if it's ok to read the Bible in French]
Unless you can find a trustworthy person to help you choose, I would avoid it. Just as there are many versions in English, there are different versions in French (and other languages). If you are not VERY careful, you'll end up in a bad version.

If English is your primary language, stick with the KJV.

By the way, there are people out there who are translating the KJV into other languages. Though the KJV is a perfect translation, translating the KJV into other languages (second generation translations) creates imperfect (in fact, flawed) translations.

Bro. Randy, Teens-4-Christ 79 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 8
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Quote# 25848

(Here's a couple nuggets from the Sneak Peek at the Creation Museum site)

In its attempt to denounce the old age of the Earth, it noted examples of gaseous versus solid planets and their rotations around stars, as well as how "planets and other bodies" can bend light to make it travel faster through space toward Earth--which would refute claims that the Earth must be old enough to see the light of stars many lightyears away.

...

As soon as you walk into the Starting Points room, you are greeted by a rather menacing looking dinosaur, standing next to a sign about the evolutionary idea of dinosaur fossils and the creation idea of dinosaur fossils. Instead of the dinosaur dying, slowly rotting away, leaving behind only solid, hard material, and gradually becoming a fossil (if future paleontologists are lucky), the creationist section of the sign attributes the dinosaur's death to the flood, and the development of the fossil is attributed to a rush of sediment (a LARGE rush of sediment) from a surge of flood water.

...

On the opposite wall, a church facade is seen being demolished by a wrecking ball bearing the title "100 Million Years." A window of the church is blown out, and a church congregation dully listens to a modern testimony reflecting the horridness of current society.

Creation Museum, Sneak Peek @ Creation Museum 26 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 25842

Hmm, yes, they are still out there. In fact, now there are several groups.


I will just caution you by saying this
If anyone who contacts you wants to spend a lot of time talking about me, then be wary.
If they teach you doctrines that are in any way contrary to the Word of God, even though it may seem that they have Scripture supporting their position, then be warned. I can twist Scripture to support abortion, sodomites and many other things. But these positions are wicked, as are many of their 'doctrines' They may come to you with sweet words - but remember what God said in Gen 3:1: Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.
Who are they?
Louis and his group From what I know of him, Louis has a sincere heart, but has become clouded with bitterness and is off on minor points of doctrine. Becasue he did not like our response in one area, he has allowed his bitterness to fester and now makes a point of discrediting me.
Jeremy and his group These people are nuts. Please, don't drink the Kool Aid. They are completely off in many points of foundational doctrine. They even think that displaying a cross in any way is a sin.
If you think you may have been contacted by one of these people, but you are not sure, please let me know. Like Satan, they are subtle and they are liars. I may be able to confirm your suspicions or help you fend off the little devils.

If you recieve a post from someone who claims to be a Teens-4-Christ staffmember, and they are not a member of the Administrators group or the Moderators group, please contact me immediately.

Bro. Randy/Imasaved1, Teens 4 Christ 42 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: I am Not Dr. Cox
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Quote# 25841

"Things" in the "physical world" are not necessarily "evidence" at all.

Mike, CARM 56 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: QuantumTroll
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Quote# 25839

The reason I'm going to go into the Video gaming industry is to turn the video gaming world around. I can't wait for the illuminati fools who created this game to come against me! They're going to be in for quite a surprise!

And when I reveal how the occult world works, from the testimonies I have heard from this place, the entire world will see that being a Christian is much better, because even though those Satanic punks have powers, our God is much stronger and much more powerful then they are! Praise Yeshua for his goodness!

Anybody who tries to stop this will have to answer to Yeshua/Jesus, and I don't think they will like it when they fail against him. Bring it you Satanic Punks!

Goodnewsjournalist, The Resistance Manifesto 43 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 25836

[Part of a post reviewing the online game Runescape under Biblical principles]

This is what runescape had it had demons, witches, zombies, ghosts even down to possed people. Now you may say but i'm not practicing casting spells or doing omens. I have 2 things to say to that when you do the 8-ball or hororscopes what do you think that is it is practicing omens. As doing sorcery in the Bible times when you went to a fortune teller that was considered sorcery, so how is that different than a 8-ball or an Oujia board. Asided from this I have no objection to runescape it is entertaining, addicting, fun, even moral, but it still has witchcraft which I now will not do anymore. I also feel this way about starwars, lord of the rings, and especially harry potter.

Christiangamer, TechIMO Tech Support Forums 34 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Praetyre
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Quote# 25835

Do workers really need to be paid?

It is nothing more than a subversive form of communism and the redistribution of wealth. CEOs have no moral obligation to pay their employees; minimum wages are just a socialist/big government way of punishing corporations. Most workers already have too many benefits, like set hours and OSHA guidelines. Only in a truly free society can CEOs keep their OWN money for THEMSELVES, the way it should be.

ConservativeWarrior, IMDb 86 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: offthepigs
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Quote# 25834

[speaking about evolution and how the loch ness monster has not been proven false and may be evidence that Noah carried dinosaurs on the ark]

Some people see teradactlys (sp?) in either South America or Africa. I know somone who knows this Christian scientist who wants to go on an expedition to find one, to (quote) "blow evolution out of the water" (end of quote) whatever that means.

OnMyKnees, Teens-4-Christ 33 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 25832

(On why there are a smaller percentage of atheists in prison, than in the population as a whole)

Atheists come from wealthier families. People from wealthier families are less inclined to commit crime. People who are less inclined to commit crime are less likely to end up in prison.

Zoot, Christian Forums 63 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 25831

There is nothing more stupid [in my eyes] than not being a believer. Not believing only brings you suffering, pain, confusion, and more. So.... why not be a believer?

There can't not be a God. If there wasn't, then how would there be a prayer language? How would we even exist?

The number one thing I'm faced with through non-believers is proof. The thing is, there is proof, if your eyes and ears are open, which unfortunately, most non-believers eyes and ears aren't.

The most revealing form of proof is one we're all familiar with. Prayer. Certain non-believers think all that prayer is just a bad enough wanting of something [in other words, determination] that it just comes. But as we all know, it's not like that. God knows what's best for you, and doesn't always give you what you pray for, or say "Yes" to your prayers. For example, if you're praying about some guy to like you, God may answer you by showing you that the guy doesn't like you back, or that he doesn't want to date anyone, or anything like that.

But when you pray for someone to receive salvation, and they end up seeking salvation like a month later, that's God acting. Unfortunately, non-believers are usually so blinded that they don't notice this.

Another form of proof is the prayer language, otherwise known as Tongues. The night I got annointed with Tongues [April 14th], all my doubt was destroyed. It's not always like that, but it certainly was to me. True faith comes through spending time with God and reading the Bible. But once again, non-believers don't know that.

They also don't know that the answer to all of their questions are in the Bible. I was talking to a friend of mine on the phone one day, and looking in my Bible to answer some of his questions, and I didn't have a clue how easy it was to answer the questions he had that I thought would be difficult to answer.

And another thing. Why would there be a Bible if there was no God? The Bible isn't just a book of guidelines. It's the key to living a good life, and to bringing others happiness. The Bible reveals things to Christians and believers that they need to know to become a better Christian. It also reveals how to bring non-believers to Jesus and how to bring yourself peace, and much more.

The Bible isn't a lie. These people wouldn't have written it if they didn't want other Christians to believe it. It wasn't just written by one person; it was written by several. The Bible is like a testimony. It's like advice, coming from real people at real times in the world. It can also be considered as a warning to non-believers--of what will happen if they don't come to Jesus on time. The Bible is another form of proof, right in front of your eyes.

There is another one that I want to mention. It's Jesus Christ. Christ isn't actually His last name. The name "Christ" means "The Annointed One". I'm very sure that not very many people are aware of that... at least not as many that should be. Non-believers will ask, "What is Jesus annointed to do?", and every Christian should be able to answer that. Jesus is annointed to save the souls of everyone on this earth!

To all non-believers or non-Christians: there is proof. You just have to open your eyes.

Sara, Myspace 48 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 25830

No jug of milk can give you unconditional love. Or consolation right on the spot.

These athiests are denying what's in front of their faces, then they decide to make up silly stories of evolution where cows become manatees after spending millions of years in water. It just doesn't make sense to me. Not that I'm trying to bash them, just point out that what they do sometimes boggles my mind.

DewDrop, Online Christian Teen Forums 23 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Austin Bell
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Quote# 25828

Jefferson, Paine, Franklin ..... Deists??? Not so fast. While these men were non-conventional in their beliefs I don't believe they were "Deists." Jefferson called himself a "Christian." Paine believed in an afterlife. Franklin, regardless of his lustful youth, called for prayer at the Constitutional Convention. These are not the actions of Deists! Jefferson was a member of a Bible society and sought to promote the Gospel. He attended church in the capitol. The vast majority of the founders operated within the bounds of a Christian consensus. That consensus produced the Declaration of Independence, a very non-deist document. Both Paine and Jefferson were attacted for being less than Christian but were they Deists?? Lets see some evidence.
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TNLibrarian, The Tennesseean 19 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 25827

You can analyze the motivations of LIBERALS until the cows come home. It all boils down to the same Anti-American philosophy, and the same Anti-Freedom philosophy! LIBERALISM'S roots were spawned along with the rest of mankind's basest instincts - during the Dark Ages! (Communism and islam, just to name a couple.)

You can dissect, bisect, and tear apart every LIBERAL'S flawed arguments and they will still boil down to their Communist, America-hating, freedom-denying, liberty-hating, Totalitarianistic, simplistic propaganda.

The bottom line is this...and, once you fully understand this, it'll make your life less complicated......LIBERALS HATE AMERICA.....THEY ALWAYS HAVE, AND THEY ALWAYS WILL, AND THEY WILL STOP AT NOTHING UNTIL AMERICANS BOW DOWN AND WORSHIP AT THE ALTAR OF GOVERNMENT-SANCTIONED DEATH AS WAS PROMULGATED BY AMERICA'S ENEMIES DURING THE COLD WAR AND AS WE ARE STILL WITNESSING IN THE LANDS WHERE COMMUNISM AND ISLAM STILL DOMINATE!

LIBERALS HATE HITLER, BUT THEY ADORE AND WILL NEVER CRITICIZE LEFT-WING AND RELIGIOUS-CULT MASS MURDERERS SUCH AS: STALIN, POL POT, HO CHI MIHN, FIDEL CASTRO, CHAIRMAN MAO, DANIEL ORTEGA, HUGO CHAVEZ, IDI AMIN, ROBERT MUGABE, YASSER ARAFAT, AYATOLLAH KHOMENEI, HEZBOLLAH, HAMAS, OSAMA BIN LADEN, al-QAEDA, VLADIMIR PUTIN, LEONID BREZHNEV, NIKITA KRUSCHEV, CHE GUEVERA, MUQTADA AL-SADR, THE IRA, ISLAM, ETC., BECAUSE THOSE DESPOTS BELIEVE/BELIEVED IN THE SAME PHILOSOPHY THAT LIBERALS ESPOUSE - THE DEATH OF FREEDOM, THE DEATH OF DEMOCRACY, AND THE DEATH OF INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY!

LIBERALISM = THE DISEASE/RELIGION OF THE UNEDUCATED, THE LAZY, THE SPINELESS, THE INTOLERANT, THE IRRATIONAL, THE ANARCHIST, AND THE GULLIBLE LEFTIST!

LIBERALS HATE AMERICA....but they don't dare live anywhere else because they are...DARE WE SAY IT?....COWARDS!!

WE MUST ERADICATE THE LIBERAL, JUST AS WE MUST ERADICATE THE REST OF THE ENEMIES OF FREEDOM, LIBERTY, AND DEMOCRACY!


Thee_Bruno, Debbie Schlussel 85 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: chaosdrew
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Quote# 25826

"love" is made for marrage there is no need for it untill you are old enough to be thinking about getting married(and you are able to).You should avoid situations that could cause you to think that you might be "in love".

-Bubbles-, CBH 24 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Stique
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Quote# 25824

Hitler is a descendent of Darwin. Works for me.

coadie, CARM 42 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 8
Submitted By: Matt
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Quote# 25821

I wish people would've stayed happy with the way families were back then.... The husband's job is to work, the wife's job is to give birth to, and teach the kids, and her work is at home doing that.


God's Child, CBH 28 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Stique
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Quote# 25820

"Crazy4starwars006, have you got any links to back any of your statements up? To me, that's a hefty mix of conjecture, lies and a bad understanding of science"

go 2 ur local library and look 4 the movie: creation vs. evelution by Kent Hovind. it's all there, but i'll look on the computer as well. this film was made by a scientist who has done all the scientific reaserch and proven himself wrong countless times.
my question 2 u waiter is, do u have any links that may convince me otherwise?


crazy4starwars006, Star Wars Messageboards 32 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: jwu
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Quote# 25819

[Christians aren't a race.]

Bro Randy: I guess it depends on how you define a 'RACE'.

Good ol' Bro. Randy, T-4-C 46 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: spinetingler
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Quote# 25817

Three Types of Spanking

Now that I've criticized several common approaches to spanking, I'd like to detail the types of spanking I do approve of.

The Training Swat.
This is usually a painless pat with the open hand to the diapered bottom of a little one, to help him make the connection between "no" and what he is doing. It might also be used to ambush an otherwise well-trained child who is just beginning to give in to a temptation. It generally means: "Pay attention, I'm talking to you," or "Stop and do what you know is right." If the child does not respond positively to a little pat, it can be made a bit firmer. One swat should be given at a time with a pause between each, until the child obeys. Take your time, and combine with outlasting and a verbal "no".

The Reminder Swat.
This is usually one firm swat to the clothed bottom of a toddler who is deliberately disobeying. It should be repeated after a pause, if the child continues to refuse to obey. This type of swat can also be used to ambush a child who is doing something he knows not to do, perhaps when he thinks you are not looking. A paddle may be used if the parent prefers, or if it is needed to make a bigger impression. You do not need to spank hard when using a paddle. In fact, much less effort can be used to achieve the same results.

The "I Mean Business" Spanking.
This is usually one to perhaps three stinging swats to the clothed bottom, delivered with a firm hand or a paddle. This type of spanking should be reserved for repeated misbehavior or some serious offense knowingly committed by an older child. The offending child should be required to bend over and place their hands safely out of the way on a chair or counter. If the child refuses to cooperate, the parent should outlast until the child does as he is told. Then one to three swats are given. A lecture and perhaps other discipline measures (like tomato staking) should usually accompany this type of spanking. "I Mean Business" spankings are not for wee ones.

"All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness."
- Hebrews 12:11 (NAS)

Elizabeth, Raising Godly Tomatoes 52 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 25810

Who Or What Killed Ryan White

[Are you referring to Africans who ate monkeys who were infected with the virus which causes AIDS, which was then transferred into the human population and spread primarily by sex?

You DO realize that in Africa, by far the largest number of people with the disease are heterosexuals, who spread the disease to each other by heterosexual contact.

Or are you possibly referring to African-American women, who are the single highest risk group in America for contracting HIV?

(God must love lesbians, then — they have the lowest rate of HIV infection of any group!)]

No, it is clear that the only victim I am talking about is Ryan White.

But I do appreciate your empathy with these other victims of the homosexual lifestyle.

I would also like to mention that I also refer to all the other innocent people who got AIDS from blood transfusions.


BAFRIEND, Christian Forums 14 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 1
Submitted By: UberLutheran
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Quote# 25806

But our genomes are highly intelligent and are highly mutable and quite capable of responding and adjusting to environmental changes.

supersport, 4forums 24 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
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Quote# 25803

Atheists have to deny all of history if they deny that Adam was a real person. They have to make up people's ancestors, which they've done by claiming that they are monkeys. That's the degree of irrationality that atheists have to descendend to deny God. No wonder they're angry and bitter.

Carico, FSTDT Forums 16 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Jodie
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Quote# 25802

Likewise your just babbling and making words why do atheist go bazzerk when their always wrong and want to physically fight.

paulywog, Yahoo! Answers- Religion and Spirituality 23 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: RoseThorns
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Quote# 25793

In response to:
[We are still evolving. We're not talking about a process over a generation, we're talking about countless generations behind evolution]


oh plz!! we have not changed at all. apparently we stopped evolving the moment man could record the happenings

crazy4starwars006, Star Wars Forums 26 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
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Quote# 25792

5.) and lastly...take a look outside 4 a quick minute. how could all of that have been formed by a bang? it makes no sense whatsoever!! humans coming from rocks? that's rediculous!! there has 2 b another way, 1 that actually makes sense and that won't fall apert like evolution!!

crazy4starwars006, Star Wars Forums 13 Comments [5/29/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: gibberingfool
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