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Quote# 52329

Here lays the tension on the issues of the separation of Church and State and the meaning of marriage. That God ordained marriage to be between a man and a woman. That the 1st Amendment affirms God’s religions and their “free exercise,” a “freedom of religion” explicitly specified in terms of marriage to be only between a man and a woman. God’s existence and religion are legally confused by the Supreme Court.

otispage2, Virtue Online 22 Comments [11/17/2008 5:51:54 PM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Neil Morse
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Quote# 52501

I must admit, nevertheless, gays, lesbians and their antisocial, opportunistic protagonists are good at spreading lies and corrupt double talk. Same-sex adaptations have really nothing to to with what family and marriage are all about! They can parade and rally all they want, in the end truth is all that matters!

Gay and lesbian antisocial orientations are based on fake premise, irrelevant to existence of humanity! No single court, state or otherwise has a right to unilaterally define marriage and family. It will never fly, no matter how hard they try, or lie!

SmokinJoe, http://www.cbc.ca 32 Comments [11/17/2008 3:40:25 PM]
Fundie Index: 8
Submitted By: Illuminatalie
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Quote# 52549

Fancy fossils? I don?t know any creationist who would doubt the existence of fossils. We have a huge fossil collection at our Dinosaur Adventure Land, in Pensacola. Fossils don?t speak, nor do they come with a tag on them when they are taken from the ground. There?s no such thing as a ?fossil record?; there are simply fossils in the dirt. This is much more evidence for a worldwide flood than for a slow, gradual, evolutionary change over time. None of the fossils found so far have shown any evidence for the evolutionary theory. They only show evidence of rapid burial, often in mass graves of millions of fossils, indicated the Biblical flood story is the most likely explanation for their existence.

Kent Hovind, Dr. Dino.com 37 Comments [11/17/2008 3:37:28 PM]
Fundie Index: 5
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Quote# 52552

How do evolutionists know that the 'Missing Link' is missing if they've never found it to begin with?

There is absolutely NO evidence of a half man/half ape creature that once existed. Mad scientists today are playing God, by tampering with life, generating chimeras in labs. This is evil according to the Bible...

God never intended for human DNA to be mingled with rabbits, cows, and mice to generate freak chimeras. Will scientists generate a half man/half ape mutant creature and claim it is proof of the Neanderthal man's existence?

David J. Stewart, Jesus-Is-Savior 43 Comments [11/17/2008 3:35:07 PM]
Fundie Index: 6
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Quote# 52362

I feel sorry for anyone who does not follow the principles laid out in the Bible. I know what happens to my life every time I stray from God's rules. It always ends in disaster. Millions of Christians feel the same way.

I guess it is no longer politically correct to stand up for the values, those of us who are Baby Boomers, were taught since childhood. I guess the Bible and the Ten Commandments are just old hat by now.

Why is it that some marginal Christians ignore the reasons why the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by fire no less?

I hate to say it, but I guess we are in the culture war I've been hearing so much about lately. Can the end of times be far away?

Deanna Giles, Editorial to the Springfield Missouri News Leader 28 Comments [11/17/2008 3:22:28 PM]
Fundie Index: 0
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Quote# 52339

["Why believe in God? Just be good for goodness sake."]

My counter-question is... Why must [they] bring God into the equation if [they] do not believe in him. I am not convinced of their agnostic/atheistic/other views.

Lainy68, RaptureReady 22 Comments [11/17/2008 3:22:01 PM]
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Submitted By: Tom S. Fox
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Quote# 52350

evolutionists :

I know i evolved from a rock because i read it in one of the 38,000 books that are now outdated because thousands of things used to support my faith evolution have been proved fraud/lies. i know i have fish ancesters and share a common ancester with a cucumber because it says so...not because there is proof, just because i read it.

lmao

MANCKIE, Youtube 41 Comments [11/17/2008 3:21:56 PM]
Fundie Index: 3
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Quote# 52330

Where Does the "Big Bang Theory" say the animals got their names?

The Bible says that God brought the animals to Adam for him to name in Genesis 2:19. By naming all of the animals, Adam demonstrated that he was master over them, as God gave man dominion over all of his creatures.

Biblical Examples

The Bible indicates that when someone names another person or thing, it shows that he has power over them. For example, you'll find the Pharaoh renaming one of the kings of Judah.

Then Pharaoh Necho made Eliakim the son of Josiah king in place of his father Josiah, and changed his name to Jehoiakim (2 Kings 23:14).

There is also the episode of the Babylonians renaming Daniel and his three friends when they were brought captive to Babylon (Daniel 1).

Anyway, my point is, that our God is a God of order. Scripture even says by the mouth of God himself that "Let all things be done decently and in order. 1 Cor 14:40. The account of Creation was done exactly as written. Creation is a fact, It has already occured and God, Elohim the creator and sustainer of all life is maker of all things! He is INDESCRIBABLE! God says Adam, the first man named all creatures. What do the other theories say about where we got names for the creatures? Does anyone have that type of information? Christians have the Word of God which I can confidently say is the truth concerning all things. If you want the truth, The Holy Bible is where to find it. God bless!

mexangl716, Y! Answers 73 Comments [11/17/2008 3:21:40 PM]
Fundie Index: 10
Submitted By:
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Quote# 52328

[OPENING COMMENT FROM GADFLY: I really feel sorry for these folks, and especially their son. They are making a mountain out of a molehill about what this boy likes to read, and probably driving him away from them. Instead of condemning his interests as occultic, why don't they talk about it with him and understand why he likes reading fantasy and science fiction? There is nothing wrong with an interest in speculative fiction!]

My son, turning 16 today, is an intelligent, bright young man, but has developed an insatiable appetite for all things fantastical. He started out being interested in Pokemon cards 5 years ago until I looked into it and felt it to be evil where upon he got rid of them. He then read all the Chronicles of Narnia and the Hobbit and everything Tolkein ever wrote ( a number of times) I encouraged his reading and saw no problem initially with Tolkein. He has moved onto 2 other series....books by R.A. Salvatore and Dragon Lance Legends by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman. I feel uncomfortable with these last authors and have said so to him. He has always read voraciously but in the past 18 months has read almost entirely within the Fantasy or Science Fiction genre. I have tried to encourage him to shift his tastes!

Running concurrently to this he has played Runescape on the web to the point where he exhibited addictive behaviour. We have passwords on the computer and have restricted access sometimes for weeks at a time. We have banned Runescape and he has now developed a strong interest in Warhammer and has been painting his first "army" for hours everyday getting ready to start playing in real campaigns. He is now playing a game called Pristontale. I am feeling punch-drunk!!!

...

My question really is how much can and should we be doing with a child of this age. He will readily engage me in intellectual discussion and challenge my thinking and then this can degenerate into angry outbursts. I often feel that I have to be controlling to lick this thing and that is not what I want to be. I am very concerned about him.

"Margaret", Crossroad Ministries 45 Comments [11/17/2008 3:21:35 PM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Gadfly
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Quote# 52365

Science has shown that homosexuals are miss one half of a chromosome...they never? fully evolved into a human...they are stuck between human and monkey....Ever see monkeys playing with their Doo Doo in the zoo...that's why homo's like playing with Doo Doo..

Freetime61, Yewt00b 43 Comments [11/17/2008 3:21:32 PM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: The Loser
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Quote# 52343

[What have you done to help the poor?
What have you done to help the homeless?
What have you done to reduce violent crime?
What have you done to cure cancer?
What have you done to cure AIDS?
What have you done to give homes to orphans?
What have you done to reduce the number of wars?

Why should anyone care what you oppose if you don't do something to help these people?

See also:
Matthew 25:34-40]


Polycarp_fan:
I voted Yes on Prop 8


-----Voting is still legal for Christians.

Polycrap_fan, CF 21 Comments [11/17/2008 3:21:10 PM]
Fundie Index: 8
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Quote# 52359

I was listening to Chuck Swindoll on my way in to work this morning. He mentioned an evangelistic nurse that he knows, he said she works with elderly people that are in the last throes of their earthly life. When the time is near she asks them if they are afraid of death to which they almost always respond "yes". Then she asks if they would like to be assured of everlasting life through Jesus Christ, and many of them reply...... "no". I couldn't believe it, people who are minutes away from death are being given one last chance through this angel of a nurse to repent and turn to Christ with their last breath, our Lord will even forgive them for everything at the very last minute. And still many refuse. Truly this is a depraved world! After seeing the homosexuals accost an elderly Christian woman in this thread it seems the world is quickly polarizing into believers and non-believers. There aren't many fence-sitters these days. It's getting harder to attract people over to the good side.

Tres Wright, Rapture Ready 39 Comments [11/17/2008 3:20:48 PM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: maevemab
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Quote# 52324

[size=16]Saudi Arabia to lead UN talks on religious tolerance[/size]

UNITED NATIONS, New York: Saudi Arabia, which deploys a special police force to ensure that only one narrow sect of Islam predominates in the kingdom, is sponsoring a discussion at the United Nations on religious tolerance starting Wednesday.

Saudi Arabian government, International Herald Tribune 65 Comments [11/17/2008 11:53:31 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: David D.G.
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Quote# 52353

if you are a gay who wont settle with civil unions that will give you some of the rights of married people or make homosexual acts and claim to be a Cristian ,if you wont straighten up then why dont you just "get aids and die"

micklovn, YouTube 27 Comments [11/17/2008 11:34:34 AM]
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Quote# 52331

[A comment on the Smithsonian magazine website about the Gobekli Tepe archeological find documented on the site, which is thought to be the world's oldest known temple, estimated 11,000 years old.]

"Seems to me like the Bible is correct after all. If Noah's ark landed in the Mountains of Turkey and Russia, then Noah would have built a temple for him and his family to offer sacrifices to God"

Joseph, Smithsonian Magazine 31 Comments [11/17/2008 7:27:26 AM]
Fundie Index: 1
Submitted By: fundi-lusional
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Quote# 52354

I'm having a hard time dealing with a problem I am having with my mother and I need some guidance.

Here's the dilemma: I've been trying to show my extremly RCC mother where the catholic doctrine contradicts the Bible. And in the process, she figured out that I don't believe the strict catholic doctrine anymore. She won't take anything, even examples directly from the Bible itself, as even remotly possible.

Her reasoning to everything, "2000 years of studying the Bible means we (meaning RCC) can't be wrong." and that, "the devil is trying to persaude me away from the RCC".

She is making life very, very difficult for me, and has forced me to talk to our RCC pastor about how my views (Sola Scriptura) are wrong and misguided. She threatens me about it with lengthy conversation and it's quickly getting to the verge of creating a division between us.

I don't know what to do from here. She has threaten me with another conversation that will only make me (and her) angrier.

I've prayed for guidance and help, but it doesn't seem to be comming as quickly as I'd like it to.

So, in your opinions, What should I do?

(If you could, please link me up with some credible, historical sources that may help me show her that the RCC was never the intended church...)

2chaotic, Rapture Ready 74 Comments [11/17/2008 6:37:26 AM]
Fundie Index: 2
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Quote# 52358

They're not being given the same rights as married people. They are being given MORE rights than any other group.

They will be the only group of people that if anyone disagrees with them, they'll be put in jail!

ladyhen, Rapture Ready 46 Comments [11/17/2008 4:55:06 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: atrasicarius
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Quote# 52320

For Atheists - why are we not gorillas!?
It's pretty late, and this isn't my most well thought out question ever, but this might shake the tree of some light-weights.

If evolution is supposed to constantly move organisms towards greater complexity and ability to survive. And if we decended from a common-ancestor like the gorillas. Then why aren't we like gorillas? I mean having the intelligence of a human in a gorilla body would be great. You'd be much stronger and more agile etc.

Tristan, yahoo crazys 54 Comments [11/17/2008 2:42:40 AM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: CaseAgainstFaith
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Quote# 52363

...Secondly there is the sin of pride which casues people to want to see their religion as better than other people's. There is one better of course but that is only understood by an objective comparison.

Muffled, religiousforums.com 45 Comments [11/17/2008 2:19:31 AM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Alex
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Quote# 52312

*making a comment to "Human rights should not be put on a ballot."*

Ken,

No one denied homosexuals any human right with this vote. A gay person can still love anyone they wish, live with them, have any career they want, live where ever they want, etc.

The problem with the gay rights movement is they keep expanding what has been know as both civil and human rights.....that is what is scaring off middle america. Since fundies make up a small percentage even of christians, it takes a lot of voters who are NOT fundies and NOT homophobes to vote something like this in.

conservativevoice, FSTDT comments 44 Comments [11/16/2008 10:11:35 PM]
Fundie Index: 6
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Quote# 52344

(Pepsi Co Grant's $500,000 To Gay Rights)
Maybe this is God's way of saying we shouldn't be drinking that sugary stuff anyway. Can't drink Coke because they cater to Muslims. Can't drink Pepsi because they are homo-happy now. Both companies also produce several sports drinks and even fruit drinks. Watch and read your labels!

SeekingHim, Rapture Ready 62 Comments [11/16/2008 9:13:21 PM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: sooze
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Quote# 52377

(Wow and I thought Dimmu Borgir were tame :p)

This is a group that is for Christians who would like to stand and make a profession against the black metal band out of Norway, Dimmu Borgir, who is sweeping the US by storm, and is already the top selling black metal band in history. This band is probably the most satanic band in the industry and they hate everything to do with God and the Bible. They are active satan worshipers, church burners, and cannibals(yes, cannibals!). So if you wanna show your support for this group and stand against one more evil thing in this world we live in, just join up.

Christians against the black metal band, Dimmu Borgir, Facebook 97 Comments [11/16/2008 7:25:52 PM]
Fundie Index: 11
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Quote# 52357

(after given a shit-load of quotes in the bible where God tells people to murder)

...The translations you chose are the liberal translations. As always, liberals are idiots. They misinterpret everything.

phat-goblin, deviantART 44 Comments [11/16/2008 7:23:19 PM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Voice of Logic
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Quote# 52311

So called same-sex marriages are irrelevant to life and in sharp contrast to what human relationships ought to be truly about! They are a dead-end road! Same-sex means no sex!

SmokinJoe, http://www.cbc.ca 50 Comments [11/16/2008 5:23:00 PM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Illuminatalie
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Quote# 52308

I'm Christian & I don't HATE gay people.But the more I'm pushed on to accept gay marriage,the more I'm opposed to it.Change doesn't happen over night. Sometimes it takes centuries for change to occur.But when it does happen, it's the right time.Gays have to approach this as an outsider would coming into a new group.The group was there long before you were & they're happy with how it is.If you want to cause change you need to wait until the time is right or you'll find resistance.

Why does America have to be like the rest of the world? We're America...not Little Japan or Little France.If you don't like what was decided -leave. If another country accepts gay marriages, why not move there? Because you would prefer to stay & try to force people here to change to what you want. If we're not ready, we're not ready-& pushing for change doesn't make it come any faster. People who don't agree with you aren't morons-they're people like you.
I'm straight. It's great. Get over it.

megan2478, gay marriage comment 49 Comments [11/16/2008 4:10:55 PM]
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