Quote# 51783

Jesus never had any free will.
(Post 24)

God does not possess free will in the same way that humans once had it (then all lost it throught the Fall and some have regained it through the new birth). I will give you your due that God is free to do what He wills.
(Post 36)

royalcrompton, h2g2 23 Comments [11/10/2008 10:46:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Giford

Quote# 51799

He only wants to take all guns away from citizens,raze taxes and at the same time putting people out of their jobs,is loved by the worst commie national leaders in the world,has a racist and biggoted pastor who was his spiritual mentor, is in very tight with a teroroist,and admited himself to being a muslum. he was sure the best choice for the destruction of the constitution.it's funny how the very state that gave us the man who violated the constitution in the worst way in history.(abraham linkoln) is now the state that is giving us one who will do the very same all over again.

[..]how many of them voted for obama? I'm hearing it all over the news now. people saying they voted for obama and that they praise jesus christ. thats what we call an oximoron.

[..]so basically my anallisis was right[..]read the 7 things that are an obamanation to god.the things that God hates.

Heartbrokenbrad, Flyleaffans.com 35 Comments [11/10/2008 10:43:33 AM]
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Quote# 51774

(After pointing out that there is no sin in newborn baby, as there is no sin a kitten or a puppy. I shouldn't poked that fundy)

If you look at a newborn baby you would know they are born sinners because they cry so much (there is much going on there); then, when they grow up we have never found a single human being in history that was without sin except Jesus to further prove the point. If you shut your mind down to reality of sin, you infuse more sin into your life, and that can't be a joyous life.

Children who have no moral center in life that is Christ don't grow up as happy because they have no direction except self. There is more to life than self. Living for others and not for self is better by far.

If sin didn't exist, there would be no need for jails.

God doesn't say you can save yourself by being a productive member of society, but through grace alone in Christ by accepting His perfect ransom. Your idea is entirely illogical, for you sin and even sin thinking there is no sin, so when someone kills someone else you think that is perfectly fine. How twisted! Only God can save. You can't save yourself. All sin needs to be punished one way or another. Deal with it! That's reality.

With the Holy Spirit, you can better know God's will for your life because you have accepted His only begotten Son, the perfect life, and have eternal life, an ability to know God and His will, whence before you were stumbling around in darkness.

(yeah, and children go straight to hell when they die, thank you very much. Wacko!"

What Really Is The Truth?, Comment on fstdt post 56 Comments [11/10/2008 6:04:23 AM]
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Quote# 51743

[Kinda long]

He it is who created the atmosphere for us to breathe. He it is who created all good vegetation for us to eat, plus the fowl and other animals which we partake of daily. He it is who created the beautiful atmosphere in which we live, and which we, with our own hands, mutilate and destroy for lack of proper guidance. Scientist love tampering with the original food God creates and tell you that Scientist food is better than Gods food. Atheist why is it your science can match the food God put here for us. People are getting sicker and sicker and its all because scientist are tampering with our food. Please don’t respond by saying we are living longer due to diet this is such a false accusation and its been debunked several times. We are living longer due to advances in sanitation less war and for the fact that we keep our loved ones alive on machines. After they took out all of these things the conclusion was that we are not living longer

Science thinks it’s healthy to take the fat out of the milk

Science thinks it’s healthy to take the yolk out of the egg

They think its health to take the skin of the chicken
They think it’s healthy to genetically modify so many food when its not

Im an expert at health and since they are wrong about Health blantly wrong its obvious they are wrong about Evolution .

Defender Of All Trurth, Y! Answers 48 Comments [11/10/2008 6:00:06 AM]
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Submitted By: Mike

Quote# 52011



Crushmore(LoneWolf1984), .new.pwrshow.com 57 Comments [11/10/2008 4:53:07 AM]
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Quote# 51844

I know you guys want me to either call it discrimination or rephrase it in such a way as to appear unable to accept your point of view on what reality is.

I'll offer you this: If a ban on homosexual marriage is discriminatory against homosexuals, then a ban on necrophilia is discriminatory on necrophiliacs.

If you can accept the latter, then I'll accept the former in the same spirit.

Neo Bretonnia, NationStates Forums 58 Comments [11/10/2008 3:29:35 AM]
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Submitted By: Ducky

Quote# 51889

(In response to how is tolerating gays going to make everyone else gay)
The Tragically Flip, with much respect, please check out the movie about some day in the future, human beings suddenly lose their ability to get pregnant and a 18 year old is the youngest kid in the world

YYYYYY, http://www.cbc.ca 47 Comments [11/10/2008 3:24:51 AM]
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Submitted By: Illuminatalie

Quote# 51885

But imagine some stranger came knocking on the door of your house and asked if he could move in and live with you. How much would you welcome him? You would certainly see him as "the other," and in many ways he is. He is not part of your family.

The request of gays to be "married" might be similar, even for a tolerant person like myself. The request to be married is a request to move into my "house"--the order of my society that has been traditional for thousands of years.

nathannathaniel, http://www.cbc.ca 57 Comments [11/10/2008 3:08:48 AM]
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Submitted By: Illuminatalie

Quote# 51760

[You're going to love this...hide your irony meters, folks!]

A Request to Atheists

A publisher has asked if I can suggest someone to give a me Foreword for my new book, You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence, But You Can't Make Him Think.

Any takers? If we use it, I will make sure you get attribution. The book is due out Jan/Feb. 2009, so you will need to be quick. Thanks.

Ray Comfort, Atheist Central -- Ray Comfort's Blog 78 Comments [11/10/2008 3:06:32 AM]
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Submitted By: the_ignored

Quote# 51903

In response to “…Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year…”

In this plan, there will be no compensation for the work put forth by these teens. There will only be the labor – forced labor. There was another time in our country when there was forced labor. This is one of the saddest times in our history, a time where men bought and sold other men in slavery. In this case, people will not be bought and sold, but our children will simply be confiscated.

That’s right, it is the goal of the Obamessiah to create a new ‘slave class’. I realize that the word ‘slave’ in this context is a powerful word that brings a lot of emotion. It should. Slavery was a horrible crime perpetrated on the world’s population. However, in the United States, this crime was perpetrated in the past. The Obamessiah is seeking to reinstate slavery.

Bro Randy, Teens-4-Christ 63 Comments [11/10/2008 3:03:51 AM]
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Submitted By: solomongrundy

Quote# 51958

(In response to Obama's "community service in return for free college" proposal)

I can see all the minorities (who don't already get free tuition) receiving the free tuition, while dodging their service.

HisAlways, Rapture Ready 25 Comments [11/10/2008 2:37:55 AM]
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Submitted By: cc

Quote# 51899

[this is starting to get unfunny]

Originally Posted by Joe Valentine
It doesn't matter if Emmanuel is a Jew. Hitler was a
Jew too.

Not just Hitler, Carl Marx, N Lenin, J Stalin were all from zionist jews

queengina66 & Joe Valentine, Rapture Ready 53 Comments [11/10/2008 2:36:17 AM]
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Submitted By: never been there

Quote# 51853

(Talk about being confused...)

Recently I've been pretty insecure about my sexual orientation. I'm really struggling to stay straight.

(In response to 'You don't turn gay, God makes you gay' - in the SAME POST):
But Andrew, I beg to differ. All that science is really BS. If you have a penis, you're body automatically wants to find its way into a vagina, not into another dude's asshole.

Aboudy Abdulhafiz, iSupportMarriage.com | Vote YES on the California Prop 8 Marriage Amendment 40 Comments [11/10/2008 2:19:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Kimby

Quote# 52004

LOL, if God doesn't exist how can evil exist? If to men or two women want to do what ever it is they do that is for God to take care of. What I don't want is things like kids not being able to talk about their Mom and Dad because it might offend someone. That is just stypid. What is wrong with civil unions and changing the law to give civil unions the same monitary and personal rights married people have? In the end God will have the last word and it isn't just homosexuals that will be the losers. This is a sick vile world and homosexuality is just part of the problem.

what, topix 39 Comments [11/10/2008 1:24:41 AM]
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Quote# 51848

Its over. I am preparing to pick which country I will move to with or without my parents.

I'll take what I have and suck what I can out of SSI and probally move to Lithuania and start a new life there and find an easy bride and start a family there.
Screw America and its new socialist goverment.

This wont even be america after Obama is done with his first term.
I didnt leave america, america left me.

[You tell 'em tiger! Not going to live in a socialist america so I'll move to Lithuania!]

Republican_Legion, Free conservative Idiots 73 Comments [11/10/2008 1:06:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Orlor

Quote# 51740

For the last month I have been preparing myself for a Sen. Obama win. I am by nature a pessimistic-optimist. I am though much more calm than I expected I would be in the aftermath of President-Elect Obama. It is much easier to remember today that my trust is in Jesus. Though I am also in mourning for the unborn who will die as a result of an Obama Presidency. They will never get to vote in an election, much less get healthcare or participate in the economy. The economy goes up and down. Dead babies stay dead.

Maybe we need to pray for the health of Supreme Court members so that they stay healthy another four years and have no desire to retire. Yeah I am only saying this jokingly, but no doubt some will retire and have a replacement named by a President Obama and another generation of children will be killed with the permission of the court. One thing you can say about Democrats is that they never pick a nominee that "grows" in office - they are reliably strict deconstructionists who will find a foreign law that matches their biases or grab a penumbra in a pinch.

Being thankful for little things the Democratic Senate does not have 60 seats so I hope this will keep the misnamed Freedom of Choice Act from being able to be signed into law. At least I hope that it is not able to be passed. Unfortunately the Mexico City policy will be history in an Obama administration. Plus I can only imagine the type of people that will be sent to represent us in the U.N. Say hello to CEDAW and the United Nations efforts to make abortion a universal "right." Plus President Bush's restrictions on Federal funding of embryonic stem-cells will be gone and surely the taxpayers will be funding destructive embryonic research regardless of the progress of ethical sources of stem-cells. Federal money will be used for cloning research and yet more embryos will die at the hands of scientists killing in order to preserve life.

This is the affirmative action presidency. Affirmative action is notorious for placing skin color above qualification and the electorate decided accordingly. There was hardly a dimes worth of difference between any of the Democratic presidential wannabees other than varying levels of experience. Obama's main qualification was that his father was from Kenya and he was capable with a teleprompter. Though once he became the nominee he had a cascade of forces historically helpful for a Democrat to take the office this time around.

Though at least now we know how many racists there are in the United States. Those 56,280,668+ that voted for Sen. McCain are obvious racists for not voting for "The One." And just because you might have voted for Alan Keyes - well you're racist too for not voting for Obama. The idea that the election of Sen. Obama is going to heal race relations I think is laughable. The media will frame every opposition to a President Obama's policies as racially tinged just as they did during the election.

As far as the media goes I don't know which I liked worse. The media that use to pretend to have some objectivity or the one that simply became campaign operatives. Media bias is nothing new and selective reporting has been with us for quite a time. The editing of the Palin interview to make her look worse and the L.A. Times withholding of a video tape are just some of the egregious examples this time around. The media can determine what the Palin family ate the night before by inspecting their garbage can, but could find nothing worthy to investigate on Sen. Obama. Gee remember the media trying to pin cocaine use on President Bush, yet Obama's biographies detailing drug use get a yawn. I hear that the Main Stream Media is going to be elevated to a cabinet position by President Obama because of the good work they did for him. No longer will dissent be patriotic as the media said during the Bush years.

Now we will also have a culture of death Catholic Vice President who will be putting the vice into Vice President with his support of many forms of abortion. I bet the media can hardly wait to snap a picture of him receiving Communion to gloat. The USCCB meets soon to discuss "practical and pastoral implications of political support for abortion." Will the scandal of Sen. Biden be addressed? Probably not, but I would love to be wrong.

I hear that Sen. Obama will be FedExing 30 pieces of silver to Doug Kmiec. Moloch is quite happy with all of the Catholics that voted for Sen. Obama. According to Catholic Culture "Among Catholic voters who attend Mass weekly, McCain won majority support: 54- 45%. Among those who do not attend weekly Mass, the margin for Obama was an overwhelming 61- 37%. Thus Obama drew his support from inactive Catholics." So 45 percent of Mass going Catholics supported the most extreme supporter of abortion ever in a Presidential race. The unborn chopped up via scalpels will be glad to hear about hope and change.

Jeff Miller, The Curt Jester 40 Comments [11/10/2008 12:34:32 AM]
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Quote# 51725

That’s how you will be voting, by influencing your husband, it would be a great incentive to encourage single women to get a husband.

Truthsearcher, FreeRepublic 42 Comments [11/9/2008 11:33:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Kaotac

Quote# 51998

What is it with liberals, you ask? Every radical vegetarian from Mt. Shasta to Sedona that thinks that it's immoral to DRINK MILK CAUSE IT"S STEALING FROM THE COW (?!) and IMMORAL TO EAT HONEY 'cause it's stealing from the bees will be 100% in favor of gay marriage. These people are anarchists, bent on destroying society so that their buddies like Tim Robbins and Ed Asner can run the place. These same people will clear the house and open all the windows when one of those new little curly fluorescent light bulbs breaks,('cause they don't want to get contaminated by that tiny little mercury exposure from the mercury gas in the bulb), they'll run from the little bulb in an eniviro-bio fit, yet they will call you a Christian wing-nut job when you say that it is probably bad to take that same amount of mercury and just inject it directly into a four-year-old girl as part of a vaccine. But they skid in their own sh1t opening windows and heading out the front door when they break a little compact fluorescent bulb. But your little four-year-old gets every bit of that dose injected into her, and that's what Jenny McCarthy is campaigning about. Anarchists. The Hollywood crowd. Academics. Evolutionists. Atheists. Radical liberals.

Howell-Detroit, topix 44 Comments [11/9/2008 11:03:45 PM]
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Quote# 51790

When they announced that the west coast polls had closed and that with California's delegates Obama had won... I lost it.

I really lost it though when I saw the multitude of people cheering and clapping and waving their little American flags while they were waiting for Obama to come out. They know not what they've done. They are blinded and delusioned. I had a hard time controlling my tears.

I wish I could be as optimistic as you are Bernardd. Truthfully, after looking at all the associations Obama has, his agenda for tax increases, his hatred for America, his support of infanticide and abortion, his support of gay rights, his socialistic views, etc., I don't see how this will pan out.

I'm sickend beyond words.

We just need to remember that Satan might have won this battle, but Jesus has already won the war. May God have mercy on us thes next 4 years.

Rebecki, Rapture Read 31 Comments [11/9/2008 11:00:01 PM]
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Submitted By: Bethany

Quote# 51866

[have a look at the post by this character that started it all]

[bold emphasized by me]
Jean Gasho-Musuka said...

One thing you have to realize is that all men are born evil. Evil from a babe. I was born evil and so are you. I thank God that he is working in my child's heart. At a tender age she is realizing that there is no good in her. I pray that you too will come to the point my little girl is.
To me Child Abuse will be loving my children all the way to Hell by teaching them self esteem etc. Which is what millions of parents are doing today. If you are parent Stew you have to start thinking about the eternity of your children.

Jean Gasho-Musuka, The Virtuous Woman 68 Comments [11/9/2008 10:57:23 PM]
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Submitted By: the_ignored

Quote# 51852

(In response to "OBAMA WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!")

God help us. We just voluntarily put an Antichrist in power. Hope you all enjoy socialism which will invariably take even more of your rights away. When you realize that I will say I told you so.

Rey Rigney, ANTI-Gay Marriage (Facebook) 41 Comments [11/9/2008 10:55:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Kimby

Quote# 51836

Because the Democrat's know God is a Republican, and the Democrat's don't have any Morals. They don't want children to learn right from wrong. The Bible is clear on Homosexuality and other things that the Democratic Party endorses. What can we expect from a group of people that made it legal to murder babies?

Johnny Reb, Yahoo absurdity 48 Comments [11/9/2008 10:55:41 PM]
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Quote# 51843

Claiming to do the "Lord's work" is not practicing Christianity, nor is it claiming to be Christian. Hitler believed that Christianity was a child of Judaism, so it was to be wiped out as well. Radical Islam also claimns to do the work of the Lord, but it is evil. Oh, yeah, for a case of an atheist committing crimes as horrible as Hitler, look to Stalin. Crazy. You people don't care about the "intellectual well-being" of society, nor do you care about the civil rights of others. What you care about is obtaining political power and suppressing the views of the religious. In other words, Marxists. Don't worry, we're well on the way to your Communist Eutopia. You're no more "intellectual" than the creationsists you criticize. Atheists who are atheists because of their scientific viewpoints need to stick to science because their politics are childish at best and dangerous.

jchav981, Youtube 17 Comments [11/9/2008 10:55:28 PM]
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Quote# 51735

Way depressed about the election as well, however, my state did pass its marriage amendment in our constitution to define marriage as one man and one woman. So praise the Lord!

Katie P., Boundless.org's "The Line" blog comment 22 Comments [11/9/2008 10:54:22 PM]
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Submitted By: GreenEyedLilo

Quote# 51855

I love Chick tracts! I read them over and over again. God has given Jack Chick a great gift for writing.

(MaryAnne also describes herself as 'the world's only non-liberal college student.')

MaryAnneDerEsel, Rapture Forums 38 Comments [11/9/2008 10:54:00 PM]
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Submitted By: Grigori Yefimovich