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Quote# 51262

WARNING: Don't Watch the 30 Minute Obama Commercial

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This issue was brought up on another forum. But I wanted to bring it out into the light and discuss.

It has been bantered Barack Obama uses time tested mass hypnosis techniques when speaking to crowds.

We all know that there is a supernatural mystique about him that is beyond the norm - regardless of what we think is the cause.

Subliminal messaging is a proven tool used by advertisers for years.

I think it is a reasonable assumption to think that this 'commerical' Wednesday night is not going to be just Obama talking but will be filled with subliminal messages and any other 'tricks' to deceive people into voting for him.

Please prayerfully consider NOT watching that program or even any commercials or news bits about it. And try to convince any family and friends not to do so as well.

Ruth, Rapture Forums 33 Comments [11/4/2008 3:04:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Redneck Bimbo Governor
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Quote# 51332

I am glad to see Sarah on the ticket. Imagine of the four people on the two tickets. Should some huge problem occur in the world, who, other than Sarah, would go directly to prayer and seek God's direction?

As far as I can tell, she is the only one who knows how to contact heaven.

OnceWasLost, Rapture Ready 51 Comments [11/4/2008 3:03:37 AM]
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Submitted By: cc
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Quote# 51053

I'm a proud hardcore Conservative. Sorry if you don't like this but we need money to fund our war... Gods war.

Femaleavatar, WoW Offtopic 42 Comments [11/4/2008 3:01:55 AM]
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Submitted By: L
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Quote# 51035

this is one reason why we are going the homeschooling route, so that the idea won't even pop in their mind because they will know nothing about it in the first place.. Most of these "experimental" stages happen in later middle school and high school. And if the H.S. is pushing this on our children and condoning unchristian behavior it will teach our children to rebel. Also children learn alot from immoral programs on the TV and thus many need to be screened. Children should not be taught sex ed in in middle school. I prefer to keep my childs innocence. This world today dosen't let children be children anymore. A young child should be busy playing with toys, baseball with his father, being read to and taught, and having fun with friends. A child won't ask awkward questions or getting in trouble when they are busy being who they are. You'll be surprised how well things turn out when you let nature take its course and don't force anything unatural upon them.

And it is true. The gay community is laden with drugs, there is an enourmous meth problem within the gay community and many are associated with dangerous behavior such a raves and clubs where drugs and rape is common. That is where Jeffery Dahmer got all his victims from...

CreedIsChrist, ChristianForums 40 Comments [11/4/2008 2:11:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Lou
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Quote# 50957

One question can destroy Atheism

Can nature create more powerful Computer by itself than human?

Human brain created Computer, does NATURE have BRAIN to create human?

If answer is yes then that NATURE is God and he also can communicate.

Hunter200, Christian Teens 78 Comments [11/4/2008 1:16:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Syara
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Quote# 51009

Murder is wrong, and I find it cowardly for any person to kill a baby that can't even say anything or defend for himself.
Animals differ from humans. Most domestic animals that are severely injured are euthanize. Some can be saved, but plenty of them do not have a great chance of surviving. Animals do not have morals like human beings. Animals are vicious, killers, immodest, and wild. So to euthanize an animal would not result in a crime being made, not unless the animal was perfectly fine, or if the animal belonged to someone and was euthanize without the owner's consent.

It would still be interfering with the creation of a human being. Humans are of more value than any animal. To interfere with the life of human being, would be attempted murder, and to kill the human is murder. There are consequences for those actions.

Xiao-Feng-Fury, DeviantART 47 Comments [11/3/2008 10:54:46 PM]
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Submitted By: spoonorca
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Quote# 50924

Jesus said that a house divided against itself cannot stand. America was founded as a Christian nation. The motto of the American Revolution was "NO KING BUT KING JESUS." The Constitution was signed, "in the year of our Lord (Jesus Christ) seventeen hundred and eighty-seven." All Americans need to turn back to God so that we can learn to love our neighbors as we love ourselves and to do to others what we would want them to do to us.
How to get to Heaven:
1. You will spend all of eternity either in heaven or in hell. Jesus Christ said,“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.”(Matthew 7:13)
2. Unforgiven sin is what damns a person to hell forever. The Apostle Paul said,“All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law.”(Romans 2:12)
3. We are all sinners who need to be forgiven. The Apostle John said,“If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.”(1 John 1:8)
4. We can never be good enough to earn forgiveness. The Apostle James said,“Whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.”(James 2:10)
5. Salvation is a free gift by the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ. The Apostle Paul told Christians,“It is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-- not by works, so that no one can boast.”(Ephesians 2:10)
6. Jesus Christ paid the price for the sins of all who would believe in Him. The Bible says,“For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures…”(1 Corinthians 15:3)
7. I encourage you to seek God’s forgiveness and grace today. The Apostle John said,“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”(1 John 1:9)

God Bless America, Topix: Top Stories Forum 38 Comments [11/3/2008 10:24:27 PM]
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Submitted By: Topixscout
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Quote# 51463

Abortion is an issue only because our society has abandoned Gods Word. God would rather nip this problem in the bud before any abortion could take place. Deuteronomy 22:13-21 says if a husband marries a girl and finds her not to be a virgin, then she is to be stoned to death. Notice the girl is to be killed without a concern of whether she might be pregnant. God doesnt want that selfish man stuck raising a baby which wasnt his! The bible god's answer is to kill both the girl and the baby

missionarysarahbarry, You Tube 65 Comments [11/3/2008 8:50:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Orcus Dreki
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Quote# 51037

You guys are just itching to bring down religion when your own lack of religion is why society sucks today. Pink is correct. It's your lack of morals that's the problem, not having morals and values.

You just don't like when someone has the nerve to say, "Hey, while you're criticizing religion, what have you done to improve the world?"

The list of people who didn't need religion in this thread is pretty thin.

Kari, WoW Offtopic 36 Comments [11/3/2008 8:37:34 PM]
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Submitted By: L
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Quote# 50889

According to the Bible Adam lived a really long time. About 900 years or so. Science does confirm that in a perfect world, we have that capability because we do regenerate and we regenerated faster when the earth was cleaner. How about that for scientific facts?

Anyway, in 900 years, you could have an awful lot of kids. The Bible says Adam did have a lot of kids after Cain and Abel. In a perfect world, genetics of incest wouldn't have been a problem, especially if the copulation took place among people who were spread out so many years apart. Just saying... hypothetically speaking.

Brielé, WoW Offtopic 50 Comments [11/3/2008 8:36:11 PM]
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Submitted By: L
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Quote# 50870

If indeed the earth’s glaciers are melting, attempting to stop them from melting by covering them with reflective material wouldn’t work. According to Global Warming proponents the earth’s temperature is increasing. So what good would it do to cover the glaciers? The sun’s rays are not the problem. This just shows the fallacy of Global Warming. One minute they claim that the earth’s temperature is rising, and then they set out to protect Greenland’s glaciers from the sun’s rays. Well, which is it, the sun’s rays or the higher temperatures on earth? If, as Global Warming proponents claim, the earth’s temperatures are rising, then protecting glaciers from the sun’s rays is a complete waste of time and money.

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It is far more reasonable to believe the Bible; than it is to believe the hocus-pocus nonsense of a bunch of whacko scientists. Just as Evolution, Global Warming is a scam—a cleverly devised invention of greedy and dishonest people.

David J. Stewart, Jesus-Is-Savior 54 Comments [11/3/2008 7:54:56 PM]
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Quote# 51082

Any person that states they are a Christian and supports Obama better READ the Bible and take a good hard look at their faith. A true, born-again Christian knows that abortion and homosexuality is NOT of God and Obama supports these agaendas. Use your brain and vote McCain.

Ken, politico 44 Comments [11/3/2008 7:41:44 PM]
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Submitted By: L
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Quote# 51194

(in response to xiao-feng-fury's question as to why a baby should not be aborted)

1. The baby is human
2. The baby is not an it
3. The baby is not an animal
4. The baby has EVERY human rights as the baby should.
5. Abortion = Murder
6. God does not support murder
7. Babies = Purity
8. God loves purity
9. Abortion includes dissecting the bodies which is a great disgust to God.
10. The baby mainly is paying for a sin that the baby did not commit.
11. I call it literal man-slaughter
12. It's treating the baby like an animal
13. It's treating the baby like an it
14. It's destroying God's most precious possession.
15. It's destroying a beginning life just so the already dying ones could live.
16. I also refer it to as massacre.
17. Abortion = Murder and Murder = Sin
18. It's an abomination to God.
(I'll think of more soon.)

narutokun1, deviantart 48 Comments [11/3/2008 7:41:38 PM]
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Submitted By: seraphicreverie
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Quote# 51039

Q u o t e:

It is in fact a greater stretch to look at the world and say there is a god. To say you look out and find a greater power in the air is to say you've ignored the tremendous pain and suffering of people.

As for evidence for evolution? The common theory is that evolution didn't occur through small changes over and over as in Darwin's ideas, it actually occurred through something called punctuated equilibrium. What this means is that a few small cosmetic changes happened now and then but somewhere along the line a great big change happened and completely dissolved the need for small changes. Religious scholars as well as secular scholars seem to agree on this issue.



Does it matter? Darwin's theory if far from complete. It has more flaws than the Bible everyone loves to criticize.

The truth is, Darwin never intended his theory to reject the belief in God. In fact, he advised against it. He understood that there would be some that would use his theory to negate the existence of God and that was never his intention. Darwin also admitted his theory was not the only one and was not flawless.

Kari, WoW Offtopic 24 Comments [11/3/2008 7:24:55 PM]
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Submitted By: L
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Quote# 51050

Obama was born in Hawaii

Obama was born with US and KENYA citizenships.

Obama's Kenyon citizenship expired like, what 10 years ago?

The "conflict" here is whether Obama is qualified because the current law states a person cannot be the President if he or she has/had dual citizenships.

Does it also not bother people Obama lied when he stated he's never gone by any other name beside Barack H. Obama? It should. Why would anyone use an alias unless there was reason? I'm not sure but maybe you can ask Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham, or Barry Dunham.

The issue is whether Obama is not a natural-born citizen; and/or
Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia; and/or
Has dual loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.
Numerous questions raised about Obama’s background have no satisfactory answers:

Where was Obama born?

Hawaii; an island off of Hawaii; Kenya; Canada?

School records list Obama as a citizen of Indonesia. Was he a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia and/or Canada?

Explanation of the names he has used: Barack Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham, & Barry Dunham.

Illinois Bar Application – Obama fails to acknowledge use of names other than Barack Hussein Obama, a blatant lie.

Cheechoo, WoW Offtopic 51 Comments [11/3/2008 2:59:25 PM]
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Submitted By: L
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Quote# 51470

Children's Services are known to be abusing power in most every state. Do we, the public really want them poking their noses or other extremities into our living room, our bedroom? Things like breast-feeding or allowing your child to climb into bed with you when they are scared are now classified as child abuse in some states. You could have your door broken down, your house infiltrated by armed men in black riot gear screaming at you "where are your children"? When they've got you on the floor in cuffs and their foot on your neck, they send in the others to drag your kids out kicking and screaming, and if you are lucky they just leave you there crying and bleeding on your carpet. But usually they arrest the parent(s) on some trumped up charge or allegation, and \$50,000 later they still don't have their children back.

If this sounds like a nightmare, you are right, it is. We've personally faced men armed with submachine guns at dawn on private property. They were looking for our newborn whom God gave us the sense to hide beforehand in a place far away from us. You see, Children's Services' mandate is to help bring families safely back together, but they put them in harm's way from the very beginning. Why do they need guns? Because they are thieves! Why do they wear black? Because they are hiding in cowardice!

These people have sold their freedom, even their very soul for a government paycheck and the power trip they get from abusing the poor, the widow, the needy, the hungry, the oppressed and the rejected. I tell you the truth, when they stand before God to be judged, it would have been better for them had they never been born at all.

David J. Stewart, Jesus-is-Savior 54 Comments [11/3/2008 2:57:35 PM]
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Quote# 51400

LOL, kill you? This is a new wave of hate where reverse psychology is being used. Act as if the Christians do all the killing so that enough hate can be warranted to kill them instead. People like this would like to bring Hitler and the holocaust back to rid the world of all the weak and feable minded Christians, or anyone who will not conform to their views. Well dude, the only thing I have to say is that if you don't like Christians, and would like to rid the world of this problem like every other Christian hater like yourself. Follow both Darwin's and Hitler's idea of how it can be done.




Yes, they both believed in extermination. Follow your mentors. The both used Evolution as their motivation and excuse for using the word exterminate.

Issac, Y.E.C. Headquarters 65 Comments [11/3/2008 2:52:11 PM]
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Submitted By: M.M.
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Quote# 50998

actually could care less. However for those who believe in evolution If same sex marriage was to be.. THEN I EXPECT EVOLUTION TO START CONVERTING MEN TO MAKE AND HAVE CHILDREN WITH EACH OTHER, I ALSO EXPECT WOMEN WITHOUT THE AID OF MALE SPERM TO PRODUCE CHILDREN. I MEAN HUMANS NOT ANIMALS

Selar, Yahoo answers 50 Comments [11/3/2008 12:20:20 PM]
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Submitted By: thejebusfire
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Quote# 50903

Why are people atheists?
What do you acually beleive in and in what way? Do you have another God? Why do some not even like to touch the bible? Tell me everything? Iv been wanting to know this like forever. Im not Atheists and will never be but some people say I believe the way atheists do b/c how I talk about the way I feel things around me. Why? Please I need to know? You will get the highest score!!! :)

Care Bears, Yahoo Answers 52 Comments [11/3/2008 9:41:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Lola Flores
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Quote# 50962

[regarding Palestinian children]

They are not innocent!!!

85% of the "Palestinians" voted Hamas into office so don't even dare talk to me about innocence. It was the Arab world that attacked Israel and it is the Arab/Muslim world that hates Israel with a passion that rivals that of Nazi Germany so when you say you feel sorry for what happened during the Holocaust I say screw you! Hitler hated us Jews precisely because we ARE, and let me repeat that again, ARE, the chosen people so learn history before you say you feel "sorry". And if you question our choseness then read the Torah, the law books given to us by G-d directly who said we are His chosen people and will forever remain so thus Israel as a duty and a right to its land as dictated in the law of G-d and if you or anyone else has a problem with that then that is just to damn bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tanakh, Christian Forums 62 Comments [11/3/2008 3:26:20 AM]
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Quote# 50993

Almighty God punished sin time after time again in days of old. We are told how he rained down his wrath upon many wicked cities and civilisations - eg, Sodom and Gomorrah, the Egyptians, the Hittites, etc. He has wiped out millions of citizens in more recent times too - the Black Death, the Great Plague as punishment for witchcraft and devil-worship in Europe. And need I remind people of the terrible fate of the jews in World War II?

GrandSamDonald, http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/U1711705 56 Comments [11/3/2008 1:51:21 AM]
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Submitted By: yellowcat
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Quote# 51125

Once upon a time when I was an unbeliever, I staunchly supported abortion rights b/c I felt women had a right to choose, a right to dictate their own bodies, etc, etc. Heck-I also supported gay rights b/c I felt homosexuals deserved to be treated equally like under civil rights.

Since then, thank the Lord for opening up my eyes to the truth! Thank the Lord for helping me to realize that abortion = MURDER. *that freaky, "praising", "yeah"-smilie*

BornAgain123, RR 48 Comments [11/2/2008 10:18:41 PM]
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Quote# 50713

The problem with this is that it isn't conservatives who claim to push and demand tolerism of all. That's the platform of the left.
And every time they display their intolerance for conservatives whether it be blatant hate messages, wanting to stifle us or their bias & outright lies to smear and slander wrongfully, they are showing their hypocrisy

God isn't tolerant and Christianity is an exclusive religion; not inclusive of ALL people who supposedly end up in the good graces of God.. as if He's SO loving that He winks at mankind in his chosen depravity.

Nadiine, Christian Forums 40 Comments [11/2/2008 9:54:31 PM]
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Submitted By: CaitsMeow
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Quote# 50835

LOL...see evidence. Nonsense. When have you seen oxygen or hydrogen or nitrogen?

CRoadwarrior, Youtube 64 Comments [11/2/2008 7:28:21 PM]
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Quote# 50839

Evolution is not even a scientific hypothesis, since there is no conceivable way in which it can be tested.
"Science", however, is not supposed to be something one "believes". Science is knowledge—that which can be demonstrated and observed and repeated. Evolution cannot be proved, or even tested; it can only be believed.

one must weigh the evidence

the evidence for evolution is, and has always been lacking
too much extrapolation and hypotheticals and overwhelming probabilities

the evidence for creation is more believable

1 - Where did the space for the universe come from?
2 - where did matter come from?
3 - Where did the laws of the universe come from? (Gravity, inertia, etc.)
4 - How did matter get so perfectly organized?
5 - Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?
6 - When, where, why and how did life come from dead matter?
7 - When, where, why and how did life learn to reproduce itself?
8 - With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?
9 - Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of survival? (Does the individual have a drive to survive, or the species? How do you explain this?)
10 - How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books)
11 - Is is possible that similarities in design between different animals prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor?
12 - Natural Selection only works with the genetic information available and tends only to keep the species stable. How would you explain the increasing complexity in the genetic code that must have occured if evolution were true?
13 - When, where, why and how did: a) single-celled plants become multi-celled (where are the two-and three-celled intermediates?), b) single-celled animals evolve?, c) fish change to amphibians?, d) amphibians change to reptiles?, e) reptiles change to birds? (
the lungs, bones, eyes, reproductive organs, heart, method of locomotion, body covering, etc are all very different!) How did the intermediate forms live?
14 - When, where, why, how and from what did: a) whales evole?, b) sea horses evolve, c) bats evolve?, d) eyes evolve?, e) ears evolve?, f) hair, skin, feathers, scales, nails, claws, etc evolve?
15 - Which evolved first (how and how long did it work without the others): a)digestive system, the food to be digested, the appetite, the ability to find and eat the food, the digestive juices, or the bodies resistance to its own digestive juices (stomach, intestines, etc)? b) the drive to reproduce or the ability to reproduce? c) the lungs, the mucus lining to protect them, the throat, or the perfect mixture of gases to be breathed into the lungs? d) DNA or RNA to carry the DNA message to cell parts? e) the termite or the flagella and its intestines that actually digest the cellulose? f) the plants or the insects that live on them pollonatte the plants? g) the bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply or muscles to move the bone? h) the nervous system , repair system or hormone system? i) the immune system or the need for it?


try and remember the very first thing you were taught about evolution and what was repeated to you over and over:

that evolution is a 'fact', even before you were presented so called evidence. It stuck.

ken d, Yahoo! Answers 52 Comments [11/2/2008 3:43:57 PM]
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