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Quote# 38519

Perhaps God allows earthquakes to happen because people are stupid enough to build houses where earthquakes happen? Seems like a common sense thing to me more than it is God's fault. Don't build houses on land where earthquakes happen and nobody gets hurt during earthquakes. It's quite simple really.

Self-Mutation, Internet Infidels Discussion Board 6 Comments [4/30/2008 8:54:24 PM]
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Submitted By: Lazarus Long

Quote# 38525

"Transgender impulses are strong, but they don't match up with the Christian sexual ethic," says Warren Throckmorton, associate professor of psychology at Grove City College in Pennsylvania. "Desires must be brought into alignment with biblical teachings, but it will be inconvenient and distressful."
Throckmorton, past president of the American Mental Health Counselors Association, says he has advised transgendered people who are in absolute agony over their state. Typically, such individuals are desperately in search of hope and acceptance, he says. It may be uncomfortable to tell transgendered individuals that their desires don't align with the Bible, Throckmorton says, but pastors must do so. "Even if science does determine differentiation in the brain at birth," Throckmorton says, "even if there are prenatal influences, we can't set aside teachings of the Bible because of research findings."

Warren Throckmorton, Christianity Today 24 Comments [4/30/2008 8:53:52 PM]
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Submitted By: David D.G.

Quote# 38523

[from a review of "Why I Rejected Christianity: A Former Apologist Explains"]

The title of this book is a little bit misleading. This guys claims that he was formerly an "apologist." Unfortunately, having a head full of knowledge, answers, etc. does not an apologist make. A true apologist is able to look at the philosophy of atheism (or any other competing worldview/religion) and recognize the internal flaws and inconsistencies of the philosophy.
Atheism is full of poor philosophy (begging the question, special pleading, etc.), and a true apologist would not only be familiar with the objections presented toward Christianity by atheism, but would have an understanding of why the atheist's arguments are flawed. Being familiar with their arguments is worthless if a theologian is unable to explain the internal inconsistencies and poor philosophy.
On to the substance of the book...
As stated in many of the comments here, this is just a guy who threw a temper tantrum when things didn't turn out the way he wanted them to. He blames God for the way God's people act as a result.

TKKMfamily, amazon.com 5 Comments [4/30/2008 8:04:11 PM]
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Quote# 38533

Recently, I have had some health issues that have kept my world pretty small. Last Sunday, after church, I had the occasion to visit several stores that I wouldn't have normally gone. I was absolutely shocked by how people were behaving and what they were selling. The amount of books on Satanism and Wiccans just shocked me, and these books were directly acrossed from the Christian section. The Christian section which use to be huge is half the size it was! Then the behavior of the people in the stores. The children standing up in the carts and screaming and the parents simply ignoring them. While I admit that my life is a little sheltered, I still felt that I went to sleep one night on one planet and woke up the next morning in some other horrible place! When did this all happen?

Amazed by Grace, RaptureReady 8 Comments [4/30/2008 7:29:38 PM]
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Quote# 38529

Earth Day is part of the environmental/green movement which ultimately is a worship of nature. Christians should have nothing to do with this. That is not to say we should not try to be good stewards, but the environmental movement is ultimately anti-christ.

Final_Trumpet, RR 18 Comments [4/30/2008 7:20:08 PM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Feminazi

Quote# 38474

[According to the tales, the Biblical God, with intent and aforethought, killed first born infants in their cribs in the still of the night.

Do you love and worship that being?]

Yes. They are God's creations and he can do whatever He wants with them. He most likely took them to Heaven, so I fail to see how he was "evil" for killing them. Since there is no such thing as Hell, it is VERY TOUGH for atheists to prove me wrong because they are so used to Christians who get their jollies off by salivating waiting to watch the torture of the damned forever.

Self-Mutation, IIDB 6 Comments [4/30/2008 6:56:31 PM]
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Quote# 38495

Ernie: ... Now that Darwinists rule academia, they will brook no contradiction, and they will happily commit employment assassination even against tenured professors who dare even to mention intelligent design. The Darwinists even have their own Gestapo in the National Center for Science Education led by a modern day Heinrich Himmler named Eugenie Scott.

Ernie Grimm, California Catholic Daily 10 Comments [4/30/2008 6:54:46 PM]
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Submitted By: David D.G.

Quote# 38490

There is no such thing as a homsexual person only rebellious sinful people who happen to enjoy the detestable act of engageing inthe detestable sin of homosexual acts.

Carey, CF 6 Comments [4/30/2008 6:48:43 PM]
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Quote# 38466

He does not need a cause. I can't find anywhere in the Bible that God said He had a cause that created Him.

Santa_Claus, Politics Forum Political World 9 Comments [4/30/2008 6:48:03 PM]
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Quote# 38486

This morose reality makes a strong case for a fitting redefinition of so-called "homophobia," that being "Homophobia: The rational fear that 'gay sex' will kill you!"

The fact that we don't have mandatory surgeon general warnings on the side of condom wrappers is a testament to the power and influence wielded by the radical homosexual lobby. (Warning: Male-male anal sodomy has been proven to shorten your lifespan by up to 20 years.)

J. Matt Barber, Concerned Women For America 18 Comments [4/30/2008 6:47:49 PM]
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Submitted By: Sayna

Quote# 38498

The review of "Expelled" is very thin propaganda and a misrepresentation of those being discriminated against. The whole matter concerns the use of trick definitions for science to exclude any consideration of evidence that might initially lead to support a conclusion of intelligent causation for living systems.
Actually that is a very good hypothesis in the age of DNA and computer or information science. Information content is central to analysis in many fields of science today. Should these all move to church basements and give up funding to depend on the collection plate just to protect Darwinism for another 50 years or whatever?
Evolutionism is a faith position purely and cannot be defended beyond its atheistic presupposition. There is no God, we are here, and therefore made ourselves. But no-God atheism is just as religious a position as Christianity. And The Bible at least supposes a sufficient cause for the total phenomenon observed. Intructions encoded on DNA represents language, and that requires intelligence. Because rocks can't write (lacking IQ as well as volition), Darwinism fails the basic test of real science.

Quentin L F Patch, Topix 3 Comments [4/30/2008 6:30:06 PM]
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Submitted By: Fek'lhr

Quote# 38494

If you had a supported reason for using up the Sun, would you do it?

I am thinking chiefly of 2 Peter 2:9-13 when I ask the following question:

If you had a supported reason for using up the Sun, would you do it?

I understand that you will feel a natural tendency to search for and provide your own intuition about what such a reason could be, so I will not impose my own ideas, but suffice it to say: I feel that no matter what the reason was, it would be a sin to do so.

Really? So how do you feel about the fact that the Devil is going to do it?

Do you realise that the Devil is going to destroy the Sun?

Have you got the same plans now as you had a moment ago?

Gottservant, Foru.ms 20 Comments [4/30/2008 6:24:53 PM]
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Submitted By: EnemyPartyII

Quote# 38496

[References someone's answer talking about the Big Bang]

not everything you read in your book is correct, so I know the bible is correct in the creation.

Not of This World, Yahoo! Answers 12 Comments [4/30/2008 6:14:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Asylum31

Quote# 38468

And without faith you have nothing. http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/len...

Any time something is partially false then it can’t be accepted as true. While evolution has compelling facts not all of it has been proven. Until all of it can be proven then it has to be accepted as theory. Even a liberal should be able to understand that.

There are even theories of divine intervention taking place DURING evolution. That would give another explanation, but of course you can’t accept that either. You can accept nothing but your way. You offer no reason for not allowing creationism to be taught along with other theories other than "it doesn't belong"? That's a weak argument.

You remind me of a jealous husband who is so insecure of himself that he goes berserk when his wife looks at another guy. If you so sure of yourself you shouldn’t mind other’s points of view and not try to stop others from seeing it.

Diogenes, Topix 9 Comments [4/30/2008 5:14:20 PM]
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Submitted By: Fek'lhr

Quote# 38484

Can you imagine officials at a middle school, junior high or high school setting aside a day to promote "tolerance" for heavy smoking and drinking among children? How about a day where teachers encourage kids to "embrace who they are," pick up that crack pipe and give it a stiff toke?

Neither can I. The public would go ballistic, and for good reason.

But that hasn't stopped officials in thousands of schools across the country from promoting other politically correct and socially "in-vogue" behaviors that - both statistically and manifestly - are every bit as dangerous as the aforementioned "frowned-upon" behaviors.

That's exactly what the homosexual activist "Day of Silence" is all about - advancing, through clever, feel-good propaganda, full acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle among children.

J. Matt Barber, Concerned Women For America 11 Comments [4/30/2008 5:14:00 PM]
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Submitted By: Sayna

Quote# 38460

[About an article for the DOS (Day of Silence). Some idiot trying to compare the "coverage" to the National Day of Prayer. The whole thread is dripping with fundie goodness.]

Exactly what my first post was alluding to. We will wait and see if the paper gives us at the National Day of Prayer as much publicity, probably not, because we do not have an alternate agenda, like furthering the Homosexual lifestyle :Sad:

GKendall, Chillicothe Gazette 1 Comments [4/30/2008 5:13:33 PM]
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Submitted By: HeathenAngel

Quote# 38473

[A Pompano Beach, Fla., man is being sued by Little League Inc. for trademark infringement after having started what he called Christian Little League:]

"Christian Little League was GOD's idea and it is a great and wonderful idea," wrote Kaplan, who grew up Jewish and converted to Christianity. "I have no plans on changing the name GOD gave me."

Jay Kaplan, Sun-Sentinel.com 6 Comments [4/30/2008 5:12:55 PM]
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Submitted By: Linkless Bob

Quote# 38483

Atheist: Aha! Now we're getting somewhere: What standard do you have of measuring what is truth and what isn't?

RLHuckle: Divine revelation.

Atheist: Is that all you've got? The voices in your head?

RLHuckle: And you don't?

Atheist: I don't have voices in my head (and I wouldn't boast about it if I did).

RLHuckle: Well Scripture says the unbeliever has ears but cannot hear; I love it when Scripture is verified by experience.

rlhuckle, CARM 8 Comments [4/30/2008 5:12:48 PM]
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Quote# 38446

the Bible will never be debunked, and let me give you one little story to prove it. You know the thing that we landed on the moon with? You remember the circular feet on the bottom of the landing gear? Ok, here's what they were for. The scientists at NASA designed those because the moon's surface has accumulated dust on its surface since almost after its existence. The scientists realized that if they landed the lunar whatever on the moon without these special "landing pads" that the ship would sink into the billions of years of moon dust they figured would be on the moon because of the billions of years that supposedly happened because of evolution. However, when the ship landed, only about six inches of moon dust was present on the surface, not 6-12 feet or more that they were expecting. Even using their own data, they figured the amount present could have only been about 6000years worth of moon dust, but out of those 6000 or so years, one day was missing. A Christian working at NASA remembered something he had read in his Bible earlier that week. The passage being referred to talks about a battle that the Israelites were going into, and God told Joshua, the Israelite's leader at the time, that as long as it was sunlight, He would give them power to win the battle. So Joshua asked God to hold the sun in the sky, and God agreed. God held the sun in the sky long enough for the Israelites to win, which was the span of one extra day. Given this story explains the missing day, the facts line up and the Bible is true and will NEVER be debunked.

Spartanfe2, Gametrailers 21 Comments [4/30/2008 5:12:36 PM]
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Submitted By: Lautsi

Quote# 38425

We are not evolving, God mad our bodies to adapt to our environments.

gaylordfocker1994, Yahoo Answers 10 Comments [4/30/2008 4:16:51 PM]
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Submitted By: Snark

Quote# 38373

Five victims of a former youth minister in prison for molestation are suing the Nazarene Church, saying warning signs about his behavior were ignored.

"This is about what the church knew, what the church did about it and, more specifically, what the church didn't do about it,” their attorney, Jason Stephens, said Wednesday.

...Ryan Martin Wonderly, a former youth minister at Bethany First Church of the Nazarene, was sentenced in 2005 to 35 years in prison for molesting girls at the church.

...Among the allegations in the lawsuit are that Wonderly's roommates at Southern Nazarene University discovered he had been looking at child pornography on a computer, and the university allegedly recommended him for an internship as an elementary pastor at the Bethany church "as part of his program of getting ‘help.'”

Bethany First Church of the Nazarene, NewsOK.com 7 Comments [4/30/2008 4:16:02 PM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 38501

[In response to the question asking if Obama is the anti-christ]

I just happened on this website and am so happy I did! I have had two dreams about Obama being the antichrist and believe he is. I have contacted many Catholic Churches and have spoke to many pastors and the general feeling is that he (Obama) is the antichrist. I have been told to get the word out and I am. I am a truck driver, 59 years old I am Catholic but have not been active in the religion for many years but I feel it is my calling to see that I tell as many people as possible about this (man). How can someone come out of nowhere and and causr this type of hype?

TED, Antichrist blog archive 0 Comments [4/30/2008 1:04:57 PM]
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Quote# 38475

This year for Christmas my family and friends who aren't saved are getting a great new Bible, The Passion of Christ DVD, The End Times DVD, a book on end times and a study guide for your bible on basic Christian beliefs. They can never stand before God and tell them no one tried to reach them. I won't stand in judgement of my own family and friends for not trying to share the good news.

lilbitsyspider, Rapture Ready 21 Comments [4/30/2008 1:01:48 PM]
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Quote# 38477

Cmon, Zeus? He's a myth. The people who believed in those gods KNEW they were myths. That's why they are referred to as mythology. Christianity is not referred to as mythology. Roman and Greek gods are. But, they didn't actually believe those gods existed. They knew it was a myth.

Self-Mutation, IIDB 20 Comments [4/30/2008 12:54:37 PM]
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Quote# 38471

The 1950's were the best times in American History !.The 1960's is the time America was on its path to HELL. The economy Was rolling in the 50's people lived better back then.The inner Cities were nice and clean. everybody had family's. There were no Fags in this country. It was great :)Evolution leads to countries like Nazi Germany and USSR

JamesJessica7771, Youtube comment 33 Comments [4/30/2008 11:35:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Enkidu
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