Quote# 40641

Atheist evolutionists are anti-knowledge


Atheist evolutionists like to label those who believe in creation and reject ToE as being anti-science.

But there is something greater than science. It is called knowledge. Knowledge includes more than just science.

Knowledge can be attained in the natural and the supernatural. Supernatural simply means beyond the natural, just as supersonic is beyond the speed of sound. Atheist evos such as Dawkins want to restrict science to the natural. But this excludes any knowledge available from the supernatural.

Therefore, the atheist evos want to limit knowledge to the natural and exclude knowledge from the supernatural.

They are therefore anti-knowledge. Narrow minded.

Scarlets79, CARM 41 Comments [6/9/2008 2:43:54 PM]
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Quote# 40646

[We're unaware of it because it simply doesn't happen.]
Oh really? Then why haven't scientists explored the possibility that the earth was created out of water? The answer is simple; because it's in the bible. So the goal of most scientists is to disprove the bible. but if they included all the evidence in their findings, they would see that the over 54,000,000,000,000 gallons of water vapor in the universe, the fact that the human body consists of over 80% water, that the oceans and water all over the earth comprises more of the earth than land, and the fact that all animals gestate in water, is a much more plausible explanation then one Big bang, then they might open their eyes to the origins of the universe instead of making up their own changing stories that are nothing more than fantasies.

Carico, FSTDT Forums 47 Comments [6/9/2008 2:43:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Ozymandias

Quote# 40609

Obama is a duplicitous European trapped in an Americans body. His record of gun control would make the average European weep with joy at the freedoms he would be denying to the average law abiding citizen.I do not elect my President based on European sentiment! Obama is a walking catastrophe who will stop at nothing in his messianic quest to turn Americans into feeble unarmed Europeans who need the nanny state for their protection. There is a reason why so many people who hate the US love obam

John Gordon, miami FL

John Gordon, BBC News 51 Comments [6/9/2008 2:41:53 PM]
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Quote# 40642





rchgoborn, AOL News Comments 68 Comments [6/9/2008 2:32:32 PM]
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Submitted By: Deanna

Quote# 40608

I know better. I am not going to ask for insult. Thanks.
Earthly education has little to do with useful (true) understanding.

juvenissun, Christianforums.com 27 Comments [6/9/2008 1:08:58 PM]
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Submitted By: Me Jarhead

Quote# 40587

The fact is that America is still the foremost nuclear power. We have LOTS of nukes. If Iran ever attacked us at our current state, they'd be committing suicide or any country for that matter.

The only thing that makes sense is that America has to become somehow crippled in order for it to be weak enough that it can't retaliate back.

The rapture will cripple America.

PeterSung, RaptureReady 44 Comments [6/9/2008 1:06:55 PM]
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Quote# 40630

I have a niece who is a lesbian. She told her mother that her other grandfather sexually abused her.(not rape but just as abusive sexually) She says since he did that to her she turned away from normal procreation and sex and decided to turn her affection to women.

Then her sister was abused by the same grandfather in the same manner. The sister is quite normal and has had a marriage of 27 years to a good man. A friend in Boston was a lesbian and said she was sexually abused and this made her want men and women. Her grilfriend (lesbian) says her harmones make her have men's desires.

Why wouldn't either girl accept medical treatment for sexual abuse and harmones?

It is a choice. They didn't want to stop it because they got a lot of satisfaction from it. That would be the most honest answer.

Gerald Collins, Amazon 54 Comments [6/9/2008 12:38:36 PM]
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Submitted By: Ararat

Quote# 40612

Imagine giving your baby up for adoption then finding out a gay couple adopted your baby?!

If Obama wins in Nov. and possibly Hillary his VP, we christians are going to hardly be able to take being here anymore.

Glory, Rapture Ready 64 Comments [6/9/2008 10:12:11 AM]
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Quote# 40618

Originally Posted by Matthew71
I find my faith getting a bit shaky these days, and it worries me. One of the things that has been bothering me is the people who call Christianity a "death cult". What upsets me is that some of what they say actually makes sense to me...

HeIsEnough replies:
And the world is dead to God.

Love nothing in this world, because it hates those who belong to God.

He gave us the power to withstand their assaults, and to not take their offenses to heart.

They are dying where stand, speak in complete ignorance of their sick heart, so it is natural to expect they will say all sorts of things; don't be offended, don't take your cues from the world.

Read the scriptures, and all these questions will be answered for you. Literally.

HeIsEnough, RaptureReady 33 Comments [6/9/2008 9:26:54 AM]
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Quote# 40615

When Cain’s descendant Lamech took 2 wives, he opened the door for acceptance of plural marriage to his own undoing, because now that ‘society’ accepted plural marriage, the Nephilim in all likely hood took a multitude of wives in order to build up their own armies, who in turn brought down the descendants of Cain’s descendant Lamech & everybody else, except the 8 on the Ark.

Why aren’t the sons of the Nephilim still being produced? It’s because the angels that were involved in this ultimate degradation of the family are now locked up in pits of darkness in the deepest pits of Hell, otherwise, it would still be going on! Jude 6 & 2 Peter 2:4-5 .

Noah wasn’t told to build the Ark until after Shem, Cham, & Yafet were married adults. By that time all his other descendants (if they existed) were dead! My guess is that the Nephilim killed all his other descendants in retaliation for his preaching against them.

The Welders Wife, CSE blogs 36 Comments [6/9/2008 7:24:53 AM]
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Quote# 40626

If all of you that believe people are born gay and that they should not be judged ,and given the same equal rights and benefits as straight people,then how do you draw the line ? If you actually believe this then what makes them any different than people that molest children,or people that have sex with animals,or dead people were they also born that way ? Both have abnormal sexual behavior,so what makes gays so special ? I bet all you holy rollers would jump right up and condem a child molester.Your logic is all out of whack,but that's ok keep telling yourself your beliefs are flawless.

Grumpy Jim, Amazon 58 Comments [6/9/2008 7:23:52 AM]
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Submitted By: Ararat

Quote# 40616

There can't even be a hydrogen atom without GOD making it. Duh!!!


You can't have a big bang/ slime ball in the soup/ turning into a monkey/ turning into a man. Ridiculous and stupid. It is what we rational thinking human beings call SCIENCE FICTION!!!

ShieldOFaith, Christian Forums 40 Comments [6/9/2008 7:10:00 AM]
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Quote# 40624

[God made lesbians who they are. How is it morally wrong to be what God made them?]

oh for God's sake. Being lesbian is a choice. Allllll those people who say "I was just made this way!" are full of crap. That is a total cop-out. Yes being a lesbian is morally wrong, Biblically wrong, and basically wrong in all senses. No matter how hot it is.

Zaku77, Amazon 46 Comments [6/9/2008 7:07:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Ararat

Quote# 40625

The bible doesn't ask that we ignore others' sins, rather it tells us what behavior is sinful, and to avoid it for our own good. It also tells us about how to live for Christ.

The reality is that homosexuals are continually asking for societal affirmation of their behavior. They don't want "tolerance," or to be left alone. They want it up front and center, and praised and taught to school children as morally equivalent to the natural family. I don't seek affirmation or approval of my sins, and I certainly won't affirm and praise the sins of others. Sin requires repentance, not parades.

Mother Hen, Amazon 24 Comments [6/9/2008 3:14:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Ararat

Quote# 40617

Obama is a prelude to what we'll see when the AC comes a calling. There's no logical reason for people to swoon over Obama, but they do. He's captivating.

The media is playing a role here. The number of photos of Obama with light behind him is astounding. They are also on board. Chris Matthews gets tingly in his legs.

I ain't drinking that kool-aid.

frodo82801, Rapture Ready 49 Comments [6/9/2008 3:11:59 AM]
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Submitted By: CeilingCat

Quote# 40597

Well they won't be laughing after they get a " You've been left behind letter"
Ok there resides in me a huge urge that I must overcome to send out E-mails that do say ...... Neener Neener, I am ashamed to even admit that to myself so I know it is a sin. But it seems these days that so many people are getting right down rude when I attempt to tell them about our Lord and what is coming. I am not " In your face" preaching at them. Just trying to give them a hint that it may time to start believing. They get down right mad, Roll thier eyes and say it is time I face the fact there will be no rapture and the bible is false etc. Sooo Yea I have to fight that urge and send out loving letters....

Heartstorm, RaptureReady 38 Comments [6/9/2008 2:20:05 AM]
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Quote# 40601

Here’s where it gets gooey. Many spiritually advanced people I know (not coweringly religious, mind you, but deeply spiritual) identify Obama as a Lightworker, that rare kind of attuned being who has the ability to lead us not merely to new foreign policies or health care plans or whatnot, but who can actually help usher in a new way of being on the planet, of relating and connecting and engaging with this bizarre earthly experiment. These kinds of people actually help us evolve. They are philosophers and peacemakers of a very high order, and they speak not just to reason or emotion, but to the soul.

Spiritually Advanced People, Outside the Beltway 50 Comments [6/9/2008 2:19:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 40629

[Isn’t banning gay marriage just like banning interracial marriage?]
Not at all! Being black or white, Hispanic or Asian is not like being homosexual. Again, no academic institution in the world nor any U.S. court has ever established that homosexuality is unchangeable, as are race, nationality or gender.

But this assertion really implies that opponents to same-sex marriage are bigots and that is not true. They simply believe marriage is between men and women for good reason.

Glenn T. Stanton, Focus on the Family 44 Comments [6/9/2008 2:18:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Feminazi

Quote# 40596

It truly makes me sad at how foolish all these Christian-bashers are. So many self-proclaimed "intellectuals" in this thread have repeatedly expressed the wish that all the Christians would go ahead and rapture already so that those left behind can live on without having to think about the reality of God.

All these people who think that they're sooooo smart yet haven't even bothered to realize the simple LOGICAL conclusion that IF the Christians are taken away in the rapture, then it MEANS THAT THE CHRISTIANS WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG. And if the Christians are right all along, you WILL have to deal with the reality of God whether you like it or not.

wow. just wow., wired.com 48 Comments [6/9/2008 12:22:54 AM]
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Quote# 40576

Mossa is part of a group of pastors from eight Hanover churches that is asking township officials to ban sports games on Sunday mornings.

The group, called the Hanover Township Interreligious Council, approached the township committee last month for help in "restoring sacredness to the Sabbath." The holy day, the group contends, is crucial during a time when divorce rates and substance abuse appear to be on the rise.


Around the same time, in Prospect Park, officials enforced a ban on Sunday work and play activities for nearly a century until the early 1990s, when the American Civil Liberties Union filed a suit alleging that the law was unconstitutional because it violated the separation of church and state.


Mossa, who now plays on the Whippany fire department softball team, said even if banning Sunday sports does not bring back churchgoers, he hopes families can at least spend a quiet day together.

"We're not against sports. We're really in favor of trying to provide a time of rest for this culture," he said. "How are you going to bring families back together?"

The township committee has asked the pastors to meet with local sports leagues to discuss the ban. A meeting date is being scheduled, Mossa said.

Rev. Donald Moss, NJ.com 44 Comments [6/8/2008 10:10:05 PM]
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Submitted By: Kuzih

Quote# 40599

Darwin was an evil man, many of his works in biological science are false and only theory. I recommend death penalty for Darwinists because Darwinists and Materialists educate humans without any hope and humans with a dangerous view on earth and other people like "Survival of the Fittest". But new biological findings show that there is also sth. like love and religion that controls our developement. Many other findings in molecular level brought even down Darwin´s theory.

[emphasis added]

Izzetpasadangelme, YouTube 58 Comments [6/8/2008 10:09:33 PM]
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Submitted By: Pwnzerfaust

Quote# 40592

(Regarding an elderly man being paralyzed after a hit and run)

In the minds of many, a human really is an animal. That's what we are taught with evolution. We kill our unborn and that's not "shocking"? So why would human "road kill" be shocking? All this does is show to those who don't want to hear or see it how cold and depraved most of our society is.

felixthecat, Rapture Ready, of course. 33 Comments [6/8/2008 10:06:25 PM]
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Quote# 40603

Allah created man for no purpose than to worship Him, and thru our obedience to Allah, we will gain a perfect, eternal reward, and thru our disobedience to Him we gain hellfire

Allah created adam and it was thru adam "thinking for himself" which led to his downfall

Look around us today summer, what you see is man thinking for himself

thinking he came from apes
thinking that fornication is ok
thinking that religion is nothing but a myth
thinking that two men can marry
thinking that abortion is a womans right
thinking that oppressing other men is his right
thinking that one race is better than the other

man is incapable of thinking for himself, he ALWAYS gets himself in trouble

and thats the beauty of islam, you dont have to think, you can be a mindless idiot and as long as you obey Allah, you are ok"

Abu Mubarak, Ummah Forums 64 Comments [6/8/2008 10:03:14 PM]
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Submitted By: Skavau

Quote# 40571

"any kafir who studies islam and does not accept islam, is dangerous"

Abu Mubarak, Ummah Forums 36 Comments [6/8/2008 10:02:49 PM]
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Submitted By: Skavau

Quote# 40569

Relax! You're an athiest! The cock only crows three times when you renounce Jesus, not when you renounce your non-belief. Remember, a Christian has to answer to God at the end of the day. You don't have to answer to anyone! Isn't that why most of you folks rationalize yourselves into being nonbelievers in the first place?

Pogue Mahone, Slate 44 Comments [6/8/2008 9:43:40 PM]
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