Quote# 41832

There are twelve tribes or brothers of Israel.God blessed one of these twelve brothers with the birthright{Joseph} even though he was not the first born son. These blessing were passed down from Jacob to Joseph to his 2 sons Ephraim and Manasseh,in effect making thirteen tribes.How many colonies did the United States start off with.Could that be thirteen.When was this penaly supposed to end? when would that 2520 year period be over? About 1800...in 1803 The United States buys the Louisiana Purchase and almost overnight becomes a world power.Coincidence? I think not.

kedo15, www.tigerforums.com 26 Comments [6/28/2008 3:39:26 AM]
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Submitted By: k4jun

Quote# 41821

(Concerning the increase of 'spiritual attack' upon all christians now in the end times.)

Lord, help us all as we endure the attacks You foretold would happen, in Your Name. Help us to withstand the scrutiny from all sides. Give us the Courage that only Your Holy Spirit can fill us with to overcome the enemy that is among us and trying to gather as many to him as possible.

Lord Jesus, LET US UNIFY, just as the 10-20% of Americans who are against your morals and values are unifying against YOU!

Why do WE who are SO STRONG, let ourselves be led by THOSE who are so weak?

I don't get that.

1angel4u, Rapture Ready 34 Comments [6/28/2008 3:07:21 AM]
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Quote# 41864

"Since a stationary Earth is THE foundational creation fact in the Bible, it is also the taproot of Bible credibility! Along with the creation of all biological life and mankind which followed, God's creation of an immovable, stationary Earth constitutes the basis - the taproot - for His "tree of knowledge" with its trunk ( the creation of mankind ) and all its limbs and branches. Satan knows that if he can kill this taproot - this foundational knowledge - with pseudo-science this would cause the whole "tree of knowledge" to wither and die in time. That's why he started there first!" Marshall Hall

Marshall Hall, Religion 31 Comments [6/28/2008 2:39:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Bernie Brauer

Quote# 41771

Minor Question gets big answer (because it's saved in a text file...)

Why is Atheism a Joke?

Serious version: Atheism is a joke for various reasons. Its proponents disagree completely on different (sometimes key) points, and often the theories they put forward it have simply overwhelming evidence against it, but since many have based their careers around it (such as Evolutionary Biology) they can't admit it's false without being out of a job. Therefore, instead of going where the evidence leads – there is a creator of the universe, they attempt to find the best natural answer instead of the best answer.
Another reason is society’s view of Atheism. Take Freethinkers as an example. As far as they’re concerned, there isn’t substantial scientific evidence for there being a God. Therefore, there isn’t one. Do you see the problem here? If not, think about it the other way around. There is isn’t substantial scientific evidence for there NOT being a God, so therefore there is one. It’s a contradiction (and this very contradiction was what made me go from Atheism to Agnosticism three years ago). But, no, people choose that unless science can prove there is a God they’ll be Atheists, which in terms of a reasonable decision is… well, look at the point about three lines up.
If you wanted, I could go on, but I really don’t feel like it. Look up some Lee Strobel books if you want, such as The Case for a Creator.

Less Serious Version: Chavs, Gangsters and other such unsocial groups are Atheists. Since they are, they are the main view of Atheism as a whole, since they’re often the loudest and first to proclaim their views. Another reason is that Atheists make absurd claims, such as ‘The Bible/Quran/Torah/other holy book isn’t real’. Uh, hello? *Picks Up Bible* Yep, this seems pretty real and tangible to me… Finally, Atheists claim that our body is made up of something called DNA. That’s all well and good, but DNA stands for Deoxyribonucleic Acid. Acid! What happens when Acid comes into contact with our skin? It dissolves! So, our body simply cannot contain this substance since it’s completely unrealistic.

I like the second version.
Most people have a joke in their signature, so I'll join the bandwagon:

I_eat_tables, GameFAQs 45 Comments [6/28/2008 2:38:58 AM]
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Quote# 41768

[regarding another fundie who was invited to a gay pride parade by a friend]

maybe it was a challenge they leveled at you to see where your loyalties are...?

...at the meanest, they could have purposely been trying to make you compromise so they could elevate their own personal agenda.

icebear, rapture ready 21 Comments [6/28/2008 2:37:40 AM]
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Quote# 41852

Faggots are supposed to have sodomy in publc toilets with 1000 different people and then die early of depression, mental illness or a sexually transmitted disease. That's their lifestyle. Don't equate normal men & women with perverted faggots. It's like equating child mollesters with pediatricians.

Newman, Kahane.org forums 57 Comments [6/28/2008 2:34:40 AM]
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Quote# 41819

d. When you fornicate, you are creating a freak of nature (spiritual freak of nature)

1 Corinthians 6:15, "Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.

16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh."

Spiritually, you are adding members to your body. In other words, you are creating a spiritual freak of nature that has many added on members to the body.

Truth4Teens, Truth4Teens.org 35 Comments [6/28/2008 2:34:33 AM]
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Submitted By: CeilingCat

Quote# 41857

I agree with all in your latest article save your remark that women are equal to men as human beings. That I see as true only if you add "before God," meaning in His judgment of human motives and actions.


At the establishment of the U.S. all were to be equal only before the law - and there is legitimate question as to whether or not that concept was even intended to include women. It did not include slaves. For certain, there is no such equality today as women are practically exempt from law in the northern Western Hemisphere. []

For Christians, Adam was given Eve as a help to him, not as an independent person to do as she would on her own...As soon as she deserted that role to make her own decision she was easily seduced by the devil and thus doomed mankind to misery on earth.

Whether that story is literal or figurative, it should be obvious, at least to Christians, that women were meant to be under the dominion of their men...Men were expected to be considerate of their wives, with good treatment of them. The implication being that men have a choice. Women, on the other hand, were to love and obey their husbands. These are not demands upon equals.

Tony, HenryMakow.com 32 Comments [6/28/2008 2:28:42 AM]
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Submitted By: Maleficent

Quote# 41787

Brittany, I was your age once and I understand where your coming from at your age with your lack of knowledge. You are looking at things from your own perspective rather than from a Biblical perspective. There is another world out there if you seek it. Life is short and you are making decisions that will effect you negatively for the rest of your life and thereafter. As far as the safe sex; that only exists in the marriage institution. You have bought the 'Worlds Big Lie,' fed to us by the devil through liberals.

Lyle, Parent Dish (comment #337) 28 Comments [6/28/2008 2:25:35 AM]
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Quote# 41833

The article on the Flood Theory was more than enlightening. I had never really thought of all those im/possibilities when it came to the flood. Thank you.

There are so many questions, and none of them can be answered by humans. Then God would not be God. The flood was a miracle, and I hope your questions will be answered in Heaven. I want to be there, and I pray that you too will, for only then will your questions be answered satisfactorily. God bless you as you continue to search His creation!

Rudo Faith Makondo Sasa, TalkOrigins 21 Comments [6/28/2008 2:17:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Tom S. Fox

Quote# 41770

(about the statue of the virgin mary breastfeeding jesus)

It seems to me that they are doing it on purpose. Almost like they are challenging God. Look! I say all religions are the same. Look! I say that it is OK to show Mary's breast! Look! Look! Look!

JenGC, RR 57 Comments [6/28/2008 1:22:26 AM]
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Quote# 41874

[Concerning a woman objecting to same sex couples having children]

Thank you finally someone who isnt completely ridiculous. I'm glad I saw someone stand by their beliefs. Im tired of everyone accepting gay people like theyre not doing anything wrong. Even if I wasnt a christian and basing all of this off of religion i still wouldnt support gay people. Since no one seems to care about the bible anymore ill give a few reasons why its wrong without using the bible. First of all its completely disgusting, second of all gay people cant have babies which hurts the population, third of all its compeltely against what a man should be, and last of all strait people are the majority and most of us say no gays so there you go no gays.

Draleex, TV.com Forums 55 Comments [6/28/2008 1:22:00 AM]
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Quote# 41691

(In a discussion about Death Metal and so-called "evil" lyrics...)

I think these lyrics sum up Satan's plan pretty well. Wouldn't surprise me to find out these band members are demon possessed. Scary stuff, but we need to remember that we are already victorious because of what Christ did for us.

Sister-N-Christ, RR 32 Comments [6/28/2008 12:43:16 AM]
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Submitted By: sofia the anti christ

Quote# 41698

A woman down the street from me lost her husband a few years ago and I got to know her a bit during that time. She had attended our church for a while but she's way out there now with these false teachers. She's a bit off herself but is always cordial and nice.

Anyway, I hear from another neighbor that she's housing homless people in her basement. For a bit it was a man and a woman. Not sure who's there now. I did notice a car that looked like it was falling apart (and lived in) and a very dishelved woman leaning up against it smoking. Not to be rude but it caught my eye. I thought maybe she was a down and out cleaning lady.

Well, the thought of someone going out of their way to help the homeless and open up their doors to them is a good thing. BUT as mom of 3 little ones the thought of drifters living just a few houses down is concerning.

I feel bad assuming that these homeless people have criminal intents but I worry about it. Once in a blue moon is one thing but I worry we've got a halfway house situation here.

pagal, Rapture Ready 33 Comments [6/28/2008 12:30:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Wilhelm

Quote# 41839

[thread title: evolution of elements...]

If evolution is true, why don't they give us answers to questions such as these:

Where did all the 90-plus elements come from (iron, barium, calcium, silver, nickel, neon, chlorine, etc)?

How do you explain the precision in the design of the elements, with increasing numbers of electrons in orbit around the nucleus?

Where did the thousands of compounds we find in the world come from: carbon dioxide, sodium chloride, calcium hydroxide, hydrochloric acid, oxalic acid, chlorophyll, sucrose, hydrogen sulfide, benzene, aluminum silicate, mercaptans, propane, silicon dioxide, boric acid, etc.?

How was it determined how many bonds each element would have for combining with other elements?
When did these compounds develop from the elements (before the big bang, during the big bang, after the big bang)?
When evolutionists use the term "matter", which of the thousands of compounds are included?

When evolutionists use the term "primordial soup", which of the elements and compounds are included?
Why do books on evolution, including grade-school, high-school and college textbooks not include such important, basic information? Evolutionists are masters of speculation.
Why don't they speculate about this?

How did life develop from non-life?

riedhied, IMDb 52 Comments [6/27/2008 9:01:41 PM]
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Submitted By: Some_Dude

Quote# 41838

[A board discussing the trend of women sacrificing their careers to augment their husband's career.]

Oh, give me a break with this feministic garbage. Not only are people now trying to change what marriage means (into homosexual blasphemy) but now it's supposedly wrong to ask the woman to change her name. The only reason people continue to write these absurdly edgy articles is to win support for those who (unfortunately) HAVE been abused by the system of allowing the man to protect.

You cannot argue that women and men are wired differently. I won't bring the religious argument into this because I know most are too blind to see truth, but you cannot make an argument against physical, psychological and emotional differences between general makeup of men and women. It's not that men think they are better any more (and if they do think they are better than women, they are wrong!) however, men have the role of provider and protector. Why are women running from what is such a glorious role of raising children and preparing a home!? Any man who loves his wife is not going to let that be compared as a lesser role than his, just different.

Give me a break with this "appeal to the [blind and ignorant] masses" crap.

Matt, CNN.com, discussion board 32 Comments [6/27/2008 9:00:47 PM]
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Quote# 41793

[mood: angry topic: the golden compass]

oh my gosh! do not go see the golden compass. It was created by atheist. its actually a book series in the last book kids kill God. i kinda have a question that i cant figure out. If their supposed to be atheist how did kids kill god? i mean thats stupid. and what the crap? why would you want to be atheist i mean gosh thats so freakin stupid!

Future~Rockstar, Flyleaffans.com 46 Comments [6/27/2008 8:30:30 PM]
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Quote# 41801

I believe the reason America is not in prophecy is because the rapture will bring this country to it's knees. Only thing, it will not be a great number of people being raptured but enough to cause it's downfall. What I envision is nuclear bombs being launched on America and moments before impact we are out of here and no chance for anyone here to get a second chance because here in America we had it easier accepting Jesus as our Savior. Today is the day of salvation not tomorrow.

Ron4jesus, RR 23 Comments [6/27/2008 8:28:18 PM]
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Quote# 41825

A True Homosexual Has Never Been Born (my CF.com thread) and I challenge everyone here to prove otherwise. Everyone here has exactly one heterosexual male father and exactly one heterosexual female mother making them either a heterosexual male or a heterosexual female copy of their parents. A man or a woman can change their sexual ‘orientation’ (straight or gay) on a whim, but they cannot change the sexuality (male or female) with which THEY WERE BORN. Scripture says, “they know the ordinance OF GOD, that those who practice such things ARE WORTHY OF DEATH” (Romans 1:32), but they carry on “committing indecent acts” (Rom. 1:27) of a “depraved mind” (Rom 1:28) anyway to receive “in their persons the due penalty of their error.” Romans 1:27.

California (State of Lawlessness) deserves floods, earthquakes, wildfires and massive budget deficits and to slide into the sea for allowing wicked judges to legislate this nonsense from the bench and for harboring millions of illegal alien foreign nationals allowed to run around loose EVERYWHERE. If the box says “Made in California,” then “No Thank You,” I am not buying it . . .

In Christ Jesus,


Terral, Christian Forums 55 Comments [6/27/2008 7:41:06 PM]
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Quote# 41847

[This is the fifth comment in a discussion thread kicked off by reference to Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis:]

Frankly, I have trouble believing any Atheistic Propaganda writings. I just don't know for sure if they are really telling the truth like it is or simply pushing their agenda to win arguments. Since it's impossible to know if what they're saying about the past is true because of the way history distorts things I conclude that they must be lying for the advancement of their cause.

Daniel Lehn, Facebook 31 Comments [6/27/2008 5:41:47 PM]
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Submitted By: David D.G.

Quote# 41767

we are out to lunch, and now my friends are not saved, and i have not been back here in this state in 3 years except to visit. they like to drink and party. and one of my friends is a lesbian. so one of my friends (shes straight by the way) asks me if im going to the PRIDE parade in san fran with her, my other friend and our lesbian friend. at first i was like what is the pride parade. then it hits me. im like ummmmmm no. i was in disgust at first. and then it made me feel pretty upset. i mean they know my beliefs, or do they? have i failed that much in trying to witness to them, that they dont even see a difference between my life and the way they live theirs? it got me to wondering, is it evident that im saved, and not of this world, or not? i was really disturbed by this whole thing.

dreadreadrea, rr 41 Comments [6/27/2008 5:12:15 PM]
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Quote# 41820

the BIBLE is the only truth and you have till may 21 st 2011 to believe in it or your going to be thrown into the lake of fire,remember everyword in the Bible has come true or will,but no other book can say that,also remember some things written in the Bible are not meant to be true as we know it,its the way Jesus SPOKE,THE WORLD WILL END ON MAY 21ST 2011,YOU CAN EITHER JOIN US BY GETTING OUT OF ALL THE CHURCHES WHICH ARE NOW RUN BY SATAN SINCE 1988 OR YOU CAN JOIN US IN READING THE TRUTH IN THE BIBLE

rd1064, Comments on AOL article 'Scientists Think Big Object Whacked Mars' 54 Comments [6/27/2008 5:12:02 PM]
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Quote# 41802

I just saw this post as well as the others about Obama and his carrying of the idol Hanuman and I am also very concerned about this. Carrying idols and amulets is a very common practice in many third world countries and it is not a begin (sp) practice. It is often done to give the carrier power over an adversary (sorry my spelling is really off tonight) and it is not something that should be done by a Christian. In fact, Christians in thses countries will tell you that anyone who engages in these practices are "Christians" on the surface only and are more likely animists, or in this country we would say new agers. As we all know, no/no Christian, would carry around an idol of a false god/demon in his pocket. This is very frightening. I have been in Africa and in a number of other countries in the third world and have seen these practices and their consequences very close. I am really concerned. We must all pray that he does not get elected.

Savanah, RR 24 Comments [6/27/2008 5:10:40 PM]
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Quote# 41794

I wait at a busy bus stop to go to school every day.
Everyday, this cripple guy would sit there and beg for money.
Every. Day. For the six years I would go to the bus stop to go to school.
There's not a single day I didn't see that man asking for food and money. He had a sign that said, "Help me pay for better legs"

So, last year, I was at the bus stop. Everyone was walking around and being busy and stuff, I wasn't paying so much attention to the cripple.
This guy and his friend walked up to the cripple, and asked, "What's wrong with your legs?"
"I don't know, they've never worked good." The cripple responded.
One of the guys grabbed the cripple's arms.
"What are you doing?!"
"In the name of the Lord Jesus, STAND UP!"
The cripple just stood up. Just as the guy stood up, my bus came.

And the guy could stand. I myself didn't believe it. It took a few weeks for it to register in my head, it was just so incredible. That's not the only thing.

A few months after that, my family took me to the zoo. (Which was disgusting) A guy had a snake on display, it was wrapped around his hand. As the man was talking about the snake, it just suddenly slipped down and started to slither everywhere, hissing.
This lady scolded the snake in the name of God. (I don't remember what she said, but It was still awesome. I was in the back, so I couldn't see a lot) The snake, amazingly, went back it its owner, and stopped hissing. It wasn't staged, why would they put zoo visitor's lives in risk if it was staged?

So ya, I finally decided there had to be God if things like that happened so much. After I started believing, my life got so much better. I could overcome the bad times more, and since my parents are atheists, they didn't drive me to church, so I started walking. God was my answer. smile

I'm not trying to shove this down anyone's throat, I'm just sharing my story on how I went from a committed Atheist to a devoted and faithful Christian. Feel free to choose

Xx Lil Holly xX, Gaia Online Again! 59 Comments [6/27/2008 5:05:19 PM]
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Submitted By: Fishcakes

Quote# 41840

Yes, I have debated with a muslim and it was like talking to a brick wall. They even dismiss debates among their own with "well, you're not a REAL muslim so I don't have to listen to you !!"

vhowell, RaptureReady 59 Comments [6/27/2008 5:05:11 PM]
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Submitted By: Tom S. Fox
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