Quote# 42669

[On a Massachusetts doctor who helps transgendered youth prepare for the self determined choice to change genders.]

So why are doctors like Spack altering young bodies instead of treating confused minds?

The answer is that many doctors have embraced the modern teaching that sexual identity, rather than being biologically determined, is a preference or a choice. According to this, people should be allowed to choose whatever sex they want to be.

But both science and the Bible teach otherwise: God created us male and female in His image. Shots and surgeries and politically correct teachings cannot alter this fundamental truth.

Tragically, some parents are now buying into this false teaching—and allowing their children to undergo destructive treatments.

You and I need to be spreading the word that legitimate treatment is available for people suffering from gender confusion—and it is a treatment that does not sacrifice the well-being of children to the political agendas of adults.

Chuck Colson, Americans for Truth about Homosexuality 40 Comments [7/10/2008 10:21:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Captain Janeway

Quote# 42642

I used to like McDonald's, but now I want absolutely nothing to do with them! I'm just a kid, but I for one KNOW that I will not eat any food that comes from that wretched restaurant until they change who they support. It's a scary thought... <b>thinking of gays taking over our country!</b> God help us

(emphasis added)

Random OneNewsNow Commenter, OneNewsNow "Pink Arches? ..." 40 Comments [7/10/2008 10:02:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Alex

Quote# 42639


Let me get this straight. Full grown men who believe in evolution? What a complete joke!

I hope you get well soon!


Miguel, TalkOrigins 37 Comments [7/10/2008 9:55:06 PM]
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Submitted By: Tom S. Fox

Quote# 42633

I find it hilarious the number of people on this INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD that consider themselves highly intellectual. For instance, they quote other people's theories like it's their own personal religion, and they throw Latin phrases around like they're going out of style (They are, by the way. Take note.)
I actually had someone on here tell me that evolution was the correct theory and that "a theory is something that is generally regarded as fact". Oh really? Because creationism and evolutionism are both THEORIES. Both Christian and evolutionist tools are warring on a stupid web site about something that only affects them after they die. (It actually affects Christians in the present, but we'll let the atheists think it's all "equal", because they all want equal rights for everyone anyway.) Live your life, believe what you want to, but I'm going to cover all bases by believing in Christianity. If I get up to heaven and Allah is up there waving a stick, well I better hope he's merciful or else I'm SOL. But I might as well believe in something just so I can cover all bases.
If there isn't a God (there is), then it doesn't really matter what I believe. The fact that atheists have no comprehension of an afterlife (and the fact that the absence of such doesn't disturb them) is proof that they waste the time they have on Earth by squandering it looking to prove evolution is real.
Get off your self righteous f ucking high horse and let people believe what they want to. People on this board point to the Crusades as horrible because "religion killed so many people", but so did Hitler. So did Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. So did Nero.
The point to all of this is, I see a lot of the same people proving/disproving (whatever you want to believe) their various theories, but really it doesn't do anyone any good to argue about such things. Christianity is more progressive than atheism because we don't want to/have to prove jack. We BELIEVE. That's all that is necessary. Meanwhile, everyone else comes up with pointless information. Well, have fun, because I'd rather sit in church than in front of a microscope with some 80 pound atheist that needs 300 SPF.

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz, IMDb: Philosophy and Religion 39 Comments [7/10/2008 9:39:41 PM]
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Submitted By: Nick B.

Quote# 42622

Zodiac astrology is the kind of thing evolution agenda people beleve in. This is why they have personality tests in scientology.

There are so many ways for Americans to turn there back on Jesus. Its fortune telling and astronomy that people are talking about a lot lately. I don’t no why eveybody wants to live in a place of sin and a culter of death. Its becaus they want us to be politicly correct and tolerate al kinds of sinners. Thats why God destroyed Saddam and Gomorrah. And we dont want to provoke God to do it again.

angryxtain, stand up to athiest bullying 46 Comments [7/10/2008 9:39:00 PM]
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Submitted By: Kasumi

Quote# 42593

Let's assume that an Atheist believes that God may exist with a probability of 0.000001,
His life worth 1 (It should be less as he may die young)

So His hereafter compared to his life is 1 : 0.000001 or the Ratio will be 1/0.000001= 1,000,000

His life worth 1 million times his here after

But his life is not constant, it is getting shorter by time
It should be represented as a variable ( Y)

Limit of 0.000001/Y as Y-->0 is Infinity

His hereafter will worth infinite times his life

QED :-)

What do you think?

Afadly, Why won't God heal amputees? 57 Comments [7/10/2008 9:33:19 PM]
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Submitted By: Larty

Quote# 42654

Christian zealot Stephen Green is facing bankruptcy over his failed bid to bring a blasphemy case against Jerry Springer The Opera.

The head of lobby group Christian Voice had been ordered to pay £90,000 in costs after losing his long-running battle against the show and its screening on BBC Two.

Now he wants licence-fee payers to cover his bill, saying it would be a better way of spending viewers’ money than funding BBC Three and Four.

Stephen Green, Chortle 29 Comments [7/10/2008 9:24:14 PM]
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Quote# 42609

why SHOULD we believe that all humans come from monkeys? this is not a proven fact. why should we believe this more than the word of God, which is (by the way) FULLLL of scientific facts that scientists once REJECTED, as we know. and oh yea can't forget aristotle can we? because he was the "FIRST" to say the earth was round. OH WAIT! it says that in the bible which was THOUSANDS of years before him. and it also says that the earth is hung on NOTHING, not that it is on the shoulders of some man as a punishment. THE BIBLE IS CONSISTANT WITH PALEONTOLOGY, ASTRONOMY, METEOROLOGY, BIOLOGY, ANTHROPOLOGY, HYDROLOGY, GEOLOGY, AND PHYSICS. THESE FACTS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE HUMANS BEGAN TO EVEN THINK ABOUT THEM.

glamourouagirl32, Gurl Shout Out Board 38 Comments [7/10/2008 9:20:34 PM]
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Quote# 42613

I guess I was looking at a possibility that this would be a great good vs evil type of book. Instead, it is another serious stab at Christians. It was both cliche and sophomoric in nature. Seriously, what else has the world community done over the past fifty years but make Christians look like a bunch of dumb yuk sheeple who would be tricked into the most ridiculous scenarios?

J. L. Napoletan, Amazon Reviews 28 Comments [7/10/2008 9:13:05 PM]
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Submitted By: xander8

Quote# 42596

BTW: There are some people out there that want to give Apes human rights since they are our "close cousins". Would that allow beastiality?

Atheistic beliefs at work. Just because you're atracted to anything doesn't mean it's natural. And apparently "Natural" has taken on a new meaning lately.

And that is also one example how Atheism affects this country LIKE EVERY OTHER BELIEF held by its citizens. You're beliefs are not immune to criticism.

WatchGuy7, YouTube Comments 29 Comments [7/10/2008 9:10:02 PM]
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Submitted By: Max B

Quote# 42625

"Women have been liberated right out of the genuine freedom they enjoyed for centuries to oversee the home, rear the children, and pursue personal creativity; they have been brainwashed to believe that the absence of a titled, payroll occupation enslaves a woman to failure, boredom, and imprisonment within the confines of home"

Dorothy Patterson, Evolved and Rational 40 Comments [7/10/2008 8:56:15 PM]
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Quote# 42648

[This just hit too high on my irony meter not to submit it]

You have a lot of faith in the "electorate". When I ask people why they are voting for Obama - they always respond with emotion! Obama makes them feel good, Obama is a great speaker (with a teleprompter), Obama is going to make a change, etc, etc. These people dont care what will be said in the debates - Obama is their "messiah". They fanatically follow him - and he is an empty suite.

I fear that the majority of the voters are taken in by his salesmanship and do not understand his lack of substance.

lgforan, RR 33 Comments [7/10/2008 8:01:24 PM]
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Quote# 42629

A UCF student claims he’s getting death threats for messing with something sacred.

Webster Cook says he smuggled a Eucharist, a small bread wafer that to Catholics symbolic of the Body of Christ after a priest blesses it, out of mass, didn’t eat it as he was supposed to do, but instead walked with it.

“We don’t know 100% what Mr. Cooks motivation was,” said Susan Fani a spokesperson with the local Catholic diocese. “However, if anything were to qualify as a hate crime, to us this seems like this might be it.”

Insane Catholics, News 57 Comments [7/10/2008 8:00:11 PM]
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Quote# 42645

[ Is it permissible for a man to remove hair from the chest, back, and between the eyebrows? ]

There is no evidence from the Qur'an or the Sunnah that forbids cutting short the hair from the chest and back; but the removal of hair from these parts may be considered a form of imitating women, something forbidden according to the hadith: 'May Allah's curse be inflicted on women imitating men and vice versa.' As for women, it is permissible for them to remove hair from these parts because it causes them harm.

As for removing the hair from between the eyebrows, it is lawful, because it is not part of the eyebrows. But as for plucking the eyebrows, it is forbidden and not permissible in Islam, according to the Hadith: 'May Allah's curse be inflicted upon women who pluck their eyebrows, and women hired to do this.'

Rif`at Fawzi `Abd Al-Muttalib, www.islamonline.net 30 Comments [7/10/2008 7:59:11 PM]
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Quote# 42708

It might be good to summarize things at this point:

1. Both Evolution (popular understanding) and the Biblical account that all humanity came from a single pair.
2. Many linguists believe in a “Mother Tongue Theory’ which is in agreement with the Biblical record.
3. Some characters in the Chinese language are linked to the biblical record in Genesis. The debate is over which characters are (and not whether they are or not.)
4. Many cultures in the world have the myth of a messiah with detailed similarities between myths.
5. Darwin would have never developed his theory if he had been a Buddhist.
6. The Theory of Evolution is “mutated” branch of Christianity.
7. The Theory of Evolution has been directly linked to some of the most evil political movements of the 20th century.
8. Hardly anyone reads Darwin’s books, whereas after thousands of years hundreds of millions of people still are reading the Bible despite centuries of fierce criticism by people like yourself.

no1nose, IIDB 33 Comments [7/10/2008 7:54:56 PM]
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Quote# 42618

I know the evidence; even if a human's DNA is 98% identical to an ape (or any other type of animal like that) it doesn't disprove the fact that God created everything. And considering that He did make everything and that He has all-power, why couldn't He make us identical to an ape while we still could be different from them? And what in the Bible HASN'T been recently proved as reliable?!

And I also agree with Goku and everyone else who has said that God could make the Earth look as old as He wanted to while it stays only 10,000 years old or a trillion years old?!

[..] But it all boils down to this:

Everything that exists was created by God. God IS a scientist, and He made things very complex and with purpose.

I don't remember the name (sorry) but remember the principle (not created by Christians or Creationists) that determined that nothing can exist without something else; this principle is just as solid as gravity and applies especially to Creation.

That means in a nutshell that you couldn't evolve because in order to do so you would have to lose the most vital parts of yourself (like parts of your DNA/RNA!) overtime in order to gain a new one, which is not possible because your body would simply stop functioning altogether.

Gideon, Flyleaffans.com 39 Comments [7/10/2008 7:51:44 PM]
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Quote# 42662

School and religion?

okay why the heck wont teachers have religion at school i mean its the 2nd ammendment freedom of religion!!!! and i carry a small bible around at school the teacher saw it and she was like well if i see that here again i'll give u a detention. but isn't that basically against the law???? plz let me know

Answer :do they allow Harry Potter books? that's a religion!

sue the school for discrimination.

lovefights, Yahoo Answers 58 Comments [7/10/2008 7:44:38 PM]
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Submitted By: J Arcenas

Quote# 42636

If (as is commonly accepted) the natural phenomenon of evolution had no end in mind when it created all living things, it is incredibly intelligent, but it forgot that they would go spinning into space without the law of gravity. So it was fortunate for us that gravity just happened to be around to stop that disaster.

Where did gravity then come from? If evolution had nothing to do with it, who or what created it? "Chance" or "accident" is too bigger leap of blind faith for me. The evolutionist's version of "just believe" isn't good enough. I want verifiable scientific facts.

Ray Comfort, The soap box--Comfort food 44 Comments [7/10/2008 7:40:56 PM]
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Quote# 42660

Ok so this was discovered in very center of the universe. It's not really good quality but the one in high qualty is amazing.

Can you honestly, look into the center of the universe, see this, and deny God?

there's a cross in the center of the universe. I forgot exactly what this was, but I saw it on a DVD called God of Wonders or something.

What made that? why would there be a cross in the middle of everything if He didn't exist. And you CAN'T look at that and say it's an X. you have to tilt your head to see an X and it isn't even even like an X.

I'd love to hear what Christians think also! It's a beautiful pic

Oh and don't even try to convice me God isn't real, nothing will change my faith, just wanna know what you think caused this?

2 atoms hitting each other? energy?...sure ok

nicole [ilk], Yahoo! R&S 58 Comments [7/10/2008 7:33:49 PM]
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Quote# 42668

[From a thread full of atheist-bashing]

I don't know how much I agree with [atheism], but I don't think many professing atheists know that the theory of evolution was first regarded as a joke even among it's experts. I quote "evolution is so absurd it will be regarded as one of the great jokes of the universe in future generations".

Infact the whole theory's absurdity is blinded by eloquent speech and popular belief.

First off the theory that we developed from apes is based upon nothing but mere speculation. If this isn't true than why do we keep searching for that oh so elusive "missing link" that may or [surprise surprise] may NOT exist!

Second evolution doesn't even explain the whole argument! it explains matter [very poorly btw] but that's about it.... what about time? Space? What about the freaking beginning!? Therefore evolution, even if it IS true, is incomplete by nature.

I really could go on....

SonicBOOM, ChristianForums 45 Comments [7/10/2008 7:30:55 PM]
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Quote# 42664

Umm, I know theres a heaven because it's in the bible dude. Not because people told me.

drybomber5 (one of VenomfangX's good friends), Atheist Think Tank 47 Comments [7/10/2008 7:13:49 PM]
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Quote# 42603

I don't know how to phrase this but, wherever the muslim population grows, the more the crime rate goes up. It's a spiritual thing. The demons follow.

I have a friend who lives in the UK and he said London is getting more and more crime-ridden and it's swarming with muslims.

It is spiritual. Islam is satan's counterfeit religion and it's demonic. Bring in islam and TROUBLE WILL FOLLOW.

Daughter, Rapture Ready 27 Comments [7/10/2008 7:00:11 PM]
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Submitted By: KatAutumn

Quote# 42643

Its not about pride, its about not spitting in the face of God in a time when we need His blessings more than ever. In the 1960s, seperate but equal was anything but equal. Today, however, civil unions and marriage can be made completely equal while keeping God out of it.

Forget 2008. Lets go back to 1958, when we as a nation had morals, decency, and the highest respect for the nuclear family and we were still one nation under God. And remember those times - things were actually going good for America in that era. We must have been doing something right! What people today call "progress" isn't progress at all.

bchris02, city-data 64 Comments [7/10/2008 2:37:33 PM]
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Submitted By: WMUATimothy

Quote# 42661

[Mirror, mirror...]

FSTDT cretins are too ignorant and immature to create, so they must copy the writings of others and make juvenile comments on them. Sister Hms did FC a large favor by booting the idiot's sorry arse out the door. No doubt the fool will brag about how we couldn't withstand the blazing wisdom of his brilliant posts and banned him to silence him.

Barely-postpubescent zit poppers like him live in a fantasy world where they are the heroes and heroines of the Web (the BB equivalents of Mary Sue and Gary Stu), oblivious to the fact that adults shake their heads and wonder what will happen when morons of that sort go out into the world.

What a pathetic lot.

DoctorDoom, FreeConservatives 85 Comments [7/10/2008 2:35:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Hub

Quote# 42616

Hey, I read your page on atheism, and well, it was amazing. I'm a Muslim, so I believe in Christ and the Bible too, and that the CJM (Christians, Jews and Muslims) should unite in fighting our common enemy of the modern world: Atheism. Keep up the good work!

Khalid Aziz - Pakistan, The annointed one guest book 59 Comments [7/10/2008 2:12:58 PM]
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Submitted By: CASE