Quote# 42352

The Holy Spirit is the "Lord, giver of life" ... so every sexual act (masturbation through intercourse: loving, though abusing) invites the Holy Spirit and you're having sex with God. The reflextion on your sexual acts shows how you love LIFE: God, yourself, and others.

Giggly Giraffe, Google Answers 47 Comments [7/7/2008 4:04:33 PM]
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Submitted By: Lola Flores

Quote# 42450

I will not join you, and here's why:

A parents job is not to toilet train their children, it is to give them a strong moral upbringing.

Think about it: its one or the other. If your kid can crap in the right spot and not just anywhere, fine, but the priority should be to inculcate them with the right beliefs.

Which would you rather have, a child that drops the occasional deuce in his pants but knows to pray and not murder people, or some kid with pristine, unsoiled pants but blood on his or her hands?

Just remember this: every second spent explaining the workings of a toilet is one less second with the bible.

Hammarub, Nationstates Forum 95 Comments [7/7/2008 4:04:30 PM]
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Submitted By: Acebrock

Quote# 42377

valid question buddy.


Originally Posted by vibise
But you argue that Hitler was motivated by Darwin's theory. How have YOU been able to read his mind?

It is true that what people say and what they do don't necessarily match and it is wiser to pay attention to what they do. In Hitler's case, he was photographed attending church services and meeting with church officials.

(And I actually got a speeding ticket today. I got a ticket, but I talked myself out of the maximum penulty.)

Kinda like tracing DNA. HITLER named Jews as dogs and inferior in race and "sellected them " for extinction. He appplied Darwins heories.

"Photographed in church" Photographed in a bank can mean customer, robber or employee. What a waste of logic buddy. Try harder on Hitler. I was on church video before I was born again.

coadie, CARM 27 Comments [7/7/2008 4:02:32 PM]
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Quote# 42418

[about the male Central Park Zoo penguins who raised a baby penguin named Tango together]

The book doesn't tell the whole story. Silo the "gay" penguin eventually left Roy for a female named Scrappy. Silo is now happily coupled with a female, which is so heartening b/c it proves that homosexuality can indeed be cured!

As for Tango, she grew up and coupled with a female penguin, which shows how harmful homosexual adoption can be to children. Tango had none of the genes of her adopted parents, but was raised in a homosexual environment and so became a homosexual herself. Homosexuality does not occur naturally, it must ultimately be a choice on the part of the individual. If it occurred naturally in the gene pool, then it would pass away within one generation since homosexuals are incapable of reproducing.

James Bourke, Amazon.com 48 Comments [7/7/2008 4:00:10 PM]
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Submitted By: The Lazy One

Quote# 42386

Okay, so is there a difference between a Christian and an atheist in their view of the immorality of murder? Yes. The atheist (maybe I'd be better off with secular humanist) would say that it is inherently wrong to kill man and this he applies to his "God concept", so when God (a presumably all-powerful being) brings calamity and death, he is guilty of murder. The difference with the Christian view is this however: God has forbidden man to kill man. Christianity holds that God (as Creator) is also the master of death, he chooses who will live and who will die. To a Christian, anybody who dies, dies as a result of God's will (oftentimes we hear or say "God's taken him" when someone dies.) Inotherwords, it's the prerogative of God to take life. It's his job, if he doesn't do it, it doesn't happen. So at least with a Christian view, the attack that "God is a murderer" is simply ridiculous and ignorant. If you would want to argue about a deity outside of the Bible, fine and dandy... I don't know, nor would I want anything to do with a "blank" hypothetical deity who is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, and claims to be omnibenevolent but hasn't revealed himself. Sorry, but I had a semester of that in basic philosophy and I wouldn't waste my time over it ever again because it's absolutely pointless.

semiomniscient, mindsay 31 Comments [7/7/2008 3:57:11 PM]
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Submitted By: ScubaBee

Quote# 42392

The only thing one needs to learn about islam is that allah is a demon and not God in any form or fashion and that those who follow the evil “prophet” are liars, murderers, cowards and fools.

[post 45 in the thread]

Emmett McCarthy, Free Republic 34 Comments [7/7/2008 3:56:57 PM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 42387

Why do science spend so much money in trying to deny the existence of God? Spending so much money to find out if life ever existed in other planets. I think (and this is only my opinion) that instead of spending billions of dollars on this... why not spend $10 on a Bible. Study it and find the answers to all of your questions concerning evolution and creation. See, the Bible is the oldest book on the face of the earth. Yet it reveals things that we don't even know of.

RM, TalkOrigins 49 Comments [7/7/2008 3:42:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Tom S. Fox

Quote# 42343

(replying to "Your world must be a very scary place with scientists showing you to be wrong each and every day.")

Given that the secular community is dishonest (ie: they censor criticisms and opposing views of naturalistic philosophies while funding their naturalistic philosophies with tax dollars), I really have nothing to worry about. I see no reason to take something that must resort to dishonesty to maintain itself seriously.

Bettawrekonize, Crosswalk 24 Comments [7/7/2008 3:40:42 PM]
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Quote# 42370

Don't you find it interesting that only God and Jesus' name is blasphemed and no other god. You don't hear people going around saying, "Buddha darn-it" or "Allah darn-it."

Its interesting that God made one of His commandments to not take the Lord's name in vain. And what do we see all around us...people using His name in vain. Why not any other god? Maybe its because the other gods are not real and when something goes wrong, God's name is used as a curse word.

And why do all Atheists and other religions out there use His name in vain, if they don't believe in Him? It just doesn't make sense.

forevermemorable, Yahoo Answers 74 Comments [7/7/2008 3:39:21 PM]
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Submitted By: Kevin

Quote# 42385

I feel it's my duty to educate you folks a little bit on the subject of science. First of all, there is a Law known as the Law of Biogenesis. No exception to this law has ever been observed or ever will be observed. Life only comes from life. Any other view is completely UNSCIENTIFIC since no one has ever observed spontaneous generation and the more we learn about the complexities of living cells, the more we are confirmed of the impossibility of such an event. Second of all, there is no mechanism in all of nature to produce "evolution" (i.e. bacteria to man). Boy, mututions do your "theory" (fantasy is a better word) a lot of good since no mutation has ever been observed to increase the amount of genetic information. Again, the evolutionist's unscientific concept of information-increasing mutations is mere fantasy having never been observed. Third, natural selection does not help your religion of evolution either since it does not produce any new genetic information. It merely selects the genes best suited for survival in any given group of plants or animals. Last but not least, the universe, and especially the earth, cannot be more than several thousand years old. Ever hear of the earth's magnetic field? Do you realize how quickly it is decaying and how incredibly strong it would have been even 10,000 years ago? Well that's a stupid question. Obviously you don't realize it, or else you are in a state of denial. There is not a shred of evidence supporting an earth or a universe that is more than several thousand years old and I also think it is my duty to warn you of the coming judgment you will face when Jesus Christ returns and damns you to hell for not believing in Him and punishes you with extreme severity for leading so many astray with your bogus "theory" of evolution. According to God's Word, "it would be better that a millstone were tied around [your] neck and [you] were drowned in the depths of the sea," than to face the wrath of the Almighty God who is fed up with your satanic deception of human beings.

Mark Sennes, TalkOrigins 40 Comments [7/7/2008 3:05:46 PM]
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Submitted By: Tom S. Fox

Quote# 42376

now, seriously, folks...

My own on-air contribution to Obonics was "Obamistan" — the new name for a United States that is forced to accept Islamic Shari'a law. If you think that is a far-fetched idea, then consider another Islamic term: taq'qiyah. That word describes the fact that, under Islam, it is entirely acceptable — even encouraged — to use any level of deception against "unbelievers" (in Allah, who is not the same as the God of the Bible) to advance the cause of Islam. In the video linked above, note that an Islamic "scholar" (Abu Hamza al-Masri) advocates that Muslims may commit any act — beat, kidnap, sell, or kill — upon any non-Muslim that they might encounter. Al-Masri says that all non-Muslims are "like a cow."
Barack Obama claims to be a Christian. But, is he? His "church" seems to hold Nation of Islam founder Louis Farrakhan in higher esteem than they do Jesus Christ. Obama used his political clout to support a regime in Kenya that oppressed Christians and attempted to impose shari'a law on all Kenyans. Obama's grandfather renounced Christianity. (For the results of that, read Hebrews 6, especially Verse 6.) Barack Obama's childhood friends recall him as a devout Muslim, and so do his relatives. A news item from India reports that Obama also carries a miniature Hindu idol in his pocket for "luck." (The word "luck" stems from the name "Lucifer." The word in Russian for "evil" is lukavaho. Christians should bristle whenever someone wishes them "good luck.")

Tom Kovach, Renew America 40 Comments [7/7/2008 3:01:19 PM]
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Submitted By: Fearsombob

Quote# 42402

The issue of gay marriage isn't about discrimination of sexual orientation, nor is it directly about sex in general. When a construction manager is looking to hire a new worker, what are the chances that they are going to hire a 5' 0" stick of a woman? The chances are very slim, and it IS discrimination, but it has nothing to do with her gender. If she's not going to be able to perform the job, she's not going to get the job. That's discrimination of ability, and it is an accepted and unanimously practiced form everywhere.

The state endorses marriage because it has a stake in seeing people pair up in sexual unions. Man-Woman pairs are biologically equipped to produce children, a process which is essential to the continuation of government. Therefore, they provide benefits to couples who are likely to head down this path (get married).

Gay marriages provide no such benefit to the state at the moment, and therefore the state has no internal pressure to provide incentives for people seeking gay marriage. Put another way, gay couples do not have the ability to produce the things the government wants from a married couple, so it is less likely to endorse those unions through government sponsored marriage. It has nothing to do with sexual orientation, because everyone of every orientation has the same right: to marry someone of the opposite sex.

OneThingIKnow, TFG 42 Comments [7/7/2008 2:56:58 PM]
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Quote# 42388

I will be in shock if any evolutionist can seriously answer these questions with answers that actually make sense. (no beating around the bush)

1. If evolution is unguided and is a completely natural process, how does nature "KNOW" which traits are beneficial and which traits are not? For example, how did nature know to make a digestive system and a sewage system for the removal of our bodily wastes? Did these systems just "pop up" out of nowhere in organisms? Or did organisms start out with half-systems and couldn't remove waste and digest food? If the latter is the case, how did organisms ever survive long enough to reproduce?

2. It is often said by evolutionists that we have certain traits because they make us survive better. For example, we have eyebrows because it keeps things out of our eyes. (This is said as if nature actually KNOWS it's keeping stuff out of our eyes and decided to stick with eyebrows.)

But, if we really do have certain traits because it makes us survive better, why didn't we evolve immunity to fire? Surely if we had the ability to not be harmed by fire, it would be a HUGE survival advantage to our species. But, we do not see this despite the fact that evolutionists say that evolution works to give us traits to survive better. We are immune to other certain types of things. Immunity to fire would've been a huge survival advantage, don't you think?

3. if nature doesn't "know" anything and is unguided, how does our body know when something bad is being put into it to cause us to cough? If nature was unguided, there should be no reason why our body "knows" we have to cough. How does nature know what is good and bad?

4. If surviving more efficiently is one of the main purposes of evolution, why do so many people get heart disease? Shouldn't we have evolved to a point by now where fatty foods don't harm us because it would make us survive longer and better? Right now, fatty foods can kill you and give you a heart attack if you eat it too much. Some survival advantage that is for us, huh? If we all had the ability to eat any type of food we wanted without getting heart disease, that would be an even GREATER survival advantage, don't you think?

Yet, in spite of all these objections, evolutionists will INSIST that evolution gives us traits to be able to survive better. I guess evolution doesn't see a need for us to REALLY be able to survive better considering we can burn in fire and die from too much eating.

So, how did evolution know how to build a digestive system, a sewage system, and a sexual system? Even if all these systems started out as tiny specks and half-systems, how did evolution and natural selection specifically KNOW how to straighten it all out into what we see today?

Self-Mutation, Internet Infidels 43 Comments [7/7/2008 2:42:03 PM]
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Submitted By: Orlor

Quote# 42379

Why Are Evolutionists so Mean-Spirited? Part 1

Evolution, while being conceivable, has not been confirmed and never will be. But most evolutionists are not interested in testing the gradualism of Darwin but rather in protecting their dubious hypothesis (guess). You can imagine the academic chaos if every honest scholar admitted that evolution never took place!

What would it do to every secular university science faculty if creationism was accepted and evolution proved a fraud? They would finally be considered uneducated, unscholarly, and unnecessary. And maybe they would become unemployed! They would fall into the same category as flat-earthers, astrologers, new age gurus, and snake handlers! (That is exactly my attitude toward the sooth-sayers of science.)

Bigoted judges who have ruled in favor of the myth-tellers would feel the sting of public embarrassment and join the ranks of the unemployed and maybe return to chasing ambulances!

Scientists would no longer seek to confirm the theory of evolution (now presumed to be a fact before beginning an investigation!) and they could get on with the business of true science. Scientists would no longer see only what is “respectable and acceptable,” and would look at the evidence, making judgments based on that evidence even if it contradicts popular theory. They would decide that truth is more important than denigrating, denying, and denouncing creationists.

[there is much more where this bullshit came from]

Don Boys, Ph.D, CSTNews 37 Comments [7/7/2008 1:38:24 PM]
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Quote# 42486

Harmful philosophies based on evolution

1. Communism
2. Nazism
3. Racism
4. Imperialism
5. Atheism
6. Humanism
7. Materialism
8. Amoralism
9. Scientism
10. Pantheism
11. Monopolism
12. Anarchism
13. Occultism
14. Social Darwinism
15. Behaviorism
16. Freudianism

Evil practices based on evolution

1. abortion
2. drug culture
3. promiscuity
4. eugenics
5. pornography
6. genocide
7. chauvinism
8. New-Agism
9. euthanasia
10. pollution
11. bestiality
12. Satanism
13. homosexuality
14. criminality
15. cannibalism
16. witchcraft

Creation Tips, Creation Tips 75 Comments [7/7/2008 12:22:15 PM]
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Quote# 42371

[In response to photos of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, His holiness.]

wow, not only do you want to say there is no God, but you must make fun of others beliefs as well. So much so you must mock them. Wow i can start to see how Germany turned raciest in a mater of months under the religion of evolution. (check it yourself before you say i don't know what im talking about... or did you not know he was big time into evolution? I can see how the beheadings of Christians will come true in the near future by the people of this country. It's not so much you believe there is no God, it's the fact you must remove all and attack Christian faith. So what's with the fish being attacked? So much truth to it and i don't believe not a one of you even understand how suckered into the religion of evolution you are. FYI. Japan was taken in by evolution in the 30s as well... part of the reason they joined forces with Germany and attacked the USA.

Hey but it's all cool, the jokes are funny and you keep laughing. If i'm wrong nothing really happens after death. If your wrong it's burning in a lake of fire forever. Yea, i'd bet my life on that before studying about it. That's logical.

Have fun

neosinn, http://digg.com 52 Comments [7/7/2008 2:18:14 AM]
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Quote# 42475

If you watch the news and you notice that once in awhile there is a school shooting. I do not get why kids can not pray but we can pretty much bring Satin in our schools. I believe that kids should pray to whoever they believe in...don't you?

Mercedes Ulrich, Facebook 74 Comments [7/7/2008 12:58:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Tom Jackson

Quote# 42359

So if habilis and rudolfensis were apes in every way, and ergaster (which followed them) was clearly human, where is the evidence that there was ever an ape-human between them? Absolutely none!

The evidence leads us to agree with creationists such as Marvin Lubenow and John Woodmorappe that “Homo ergaster, Homo erectus, Homo heidelbergensis, and Homo neanderthalensis can best be understood as racial variants of modern man — all descended from Adam and Eve, and most likely arising after the separation of people groups after Babel.”

Creation Tips, Creation Tips 29 Comments [7/6/2008 10:30:27 PM]
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Submitted By: nfp

Quote# 42342

[In response to the poll question "Are you a mammal?"]

It's my understanding that mammals are animals, of which humans are not. Before I was saved/born again, I used to believe in evolution. Then, I read the account in Genesis and realized that evolution was directly contrary to what the Bible taught, and therefore could not be accurate.

I chose to believe the Bible in its account of creation rather than Darwin's theory (not fact) of evolution.


Ann Doupont, Christian Forums 69 Comments [7/6/2008 7:39:53 PM]
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Quote# 42346

The non-denominational church we attended until recently NEVER did an end-times sermon, or a rapture sermon. Haw sad is that? Lots and lots of "Purpose Driven Life" stuff though......see why we don't go there anymore?

ZeldaCA, Rapture Ready 56 Comments [7/6/2008 7:37:25 PM]
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Submitted By: Lola Flores

Quote# 42358

Babylonian Ark fails test
The ancient Babylonians had a flood story too, and it may have been a corrupted version of the biblical account. The ark in the Babylonian story was shaped like a cube, which would had made it unseaworthy.

This shows the difference between truth and badly recorded legends. The Bible's Ark was able to carry all the animals God sent to Noah, it was wonderfully seaworthy, it landed on a mountain that is still identifiable today, and the whole story is credible scientifically.

Because of this, there are many thousands of scientists who believe the Bible's account of the Ark and the worldwide Flood, but none (as far as we know) who seriously defends the Babylonian story as scientifically trustworthy.

Creation Tips, Creation Tips 51 Comments [7/6/2008 7:36:58 PM]
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Submitted By: nfp

Quote# 42316

I think we may be very close. My heart cries harder and harder for Christ to have me and for Justice to serve. I have seen firsthand some supernatural events that make me think we are very close right at the door even.

1.In December 06 I say a huge flash of blue light in the sky in the dark of morning on the way to work and thought it was a nuclear attack but I was told Blue is the color of GOD and may have been a sign of Heaven trying to awaken my spirit at the time.
2.I have been attacked frequantly by demons from my past life of self and it carries into my life with Christ but less frequent and less powerful. alot of spiritual activity going on these days. There have been more sightings in 2007 for UFOs than ever recorded which I believe UFOs are the Devils work manifest.
3. I have seen scripture on my wall at home(isaiah 10) and GOD has revealed which part of Isaiah and gave me 2 other scriptures on my baptism night Isaiah 10:16-24 Psalm 32, Psalm 49:15

We are in some seriously trying times where people have abandoned Love for Lust and Care for Hatred Service for God to Service for self....

His_Disciple, RaptureReady 59 Comments [7/6/2008 7:09:33 PM]
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Quote# 42283

That is exactly how I like to look at it. A dear friend of mine died at the age of 30 about a year ago from cancer. When she was so sick, I told her to "get the appetizers ready cause I'll be right there!" I never really cried after her passing because she was looking so forward to it. I only pray that if the Lord should tarry, I can be as positive about my death as she was.

slpmom3, RaptureReady 42 Comments [7/6/2008 1:27:36 PM]
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Quote# 42336

Funny how our would is going to Hell and your calling the bible wrong.

jeremy, TalkOrigins 48 Comments [7/6/2008 6:26:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Tom S. Fox

Quote# 42324

Most evoas don't know Jefferson was in Europe when much of this was written. They don't study the early American documents.

Thomas Jefferson

In the thick of party conflict in 1800, Thomas Jefferson wrote in a private letter, "I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."

That includes atheism and evolutionism which were spread by tyrannical leaders like Hitler, Stalin etc.

coadie, CARM 50 Comments [7/6/2008 6:21:15 AM]
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