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Quote# 42149

[His video: "A simple way to prove the existence of God"]

If I promised to give you a chocolate bar after an infinite amount of time, would I ever give you the chocolate bar? No. Because we would never reach the moment when we could say "Okay, an infinite amount of time has passed, pay up the chocolate bar".

Next question: Could there have been an infinite amount of time before now? No, otherwise we would have never reached this moment in time. So we can conclude that time started a finite amount of time ago, [...] and before that there was no time.
Scientists say matter can't be created or destroyed. [...] So the question is: has matter always existed? And I'd say no, it hasn't, because we've already determined time didn't always exist, but you can't have matter without space and time. If you have matter, where do you put it -space- and when do you put it -time-?

So here's the problem: we know there wasn't always time, and thus we HAVE to conclude there wasn't always matter. [...] So we don't know what created matter, time, and space, fair enough. But what we do know about whatever it is that we don't know, is that it's immensely powerful, I mean there's lots of energy in this world and it had to come from whatever created it, so, immensely powerful, and extremely intelligent, because we can look around and see it created enough stuff to sustain life, create all the elements we need to go about our daily functions, breathe and eat, and all that amazing awesome stuff, so we can conclude it's awesomely powerful, incredibly intelligent, and suddenly the picture starts to, you know what I'm saying?

Ah, yeah. There's no way to argue this. There's nowhere else to go. I got you cornered. You can comment on this and say "Ah you're a fool, I don't believe in God", but, you know, you might have to change your beliefs a bit. Some people don't wanna believe in God cause that makes them accountable to their creator, and, they don't want to deal with it.
Check out my other videos to learn what God expects of you, and how to restore a relationship with him, I'd be happy to take you through it.

MySweetLordJesus, aka VenomFangX, Youtube 67 Comments [7/2/2008 10:28:30 PM]
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Submitted By: Mithcoriel
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Quote# 42113

[Speaking of his Catholic girlfriend, and ignoring the fact that Catholicism is the largest and most powerful sect of CHRISTIANITY]

She does not want a Catholic wedding, she is certainly not Catholic but a Bible believing Christian.
Although I will admit she is not as knowledgeable as I am since she grew up in the Catholic Church. However her parents do read the Bible with the family pretty often, which gives her a good background in the scriptures.

nicefin, Grace Centered Forums 29 Comments [7/2/2008 9:04:30 PM]
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Submitted By: DuzmA
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Quote# 42143

Now you look into all religions and see a flaw, Christianity was supposedly the? only standalone true way, until 'media' stepped in and degraded us with controversy that was based on opinion and perceived as truth. You look at the news, but you won't find a more prosecuted religion out there.

(next post)

Now let's answer a fundamental question before you further your dispute. Do you believe that your life has a purpose? If not, then (logically) you are completely irrelevant as far as subsistence goes. An? existence without a motive is like an unfinished puzzle. The "missing piece" is the true fact that tends to be displaced by fallacious testimony. What does your heart tell you when you try to find the way? Is it just encrusted in corruption and blinded from all that is true?

xelnaga0, youtube 22 Comments [7/2/2008 9:02:59 PM]
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Submitted By: Mr Brightside
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Quote# 42163

The theory of evolution states that a more “evolved” life-form (the effect) stems from a simpler one (the cause)—in violation of both cause and effect and the second law of thermodynamics.

Bradford G. Schleifer, real truth magazine 38 Comments [7/2/2008 8:58:57 PM]
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Submitted By: mockeldritch
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Quote# 42138

Brainwashing is a powerful weapon to control the thinking of the masses. It can be used in many ways. Hitler used it to sway millions with his Ministry of Propaganda. Today we see it in commercials, pounding us with sexual situations that 50 years ago would have been unspeakable, but are now used to sell all kinds of products.

Behind this breakdown of morals is what I believe to be one of the most powerful messages of our time: Evolution.

Do you realize that school children worldwide are told we come from monkeys, or goo? And they believe it without question! Can you imagine the gigantic effort and cost to pull this off? National Geographic, all leading publications, popes, politicians, leaders, scientists and most teachers are in on it. What does it tell the kids? “If you believe in God and that He created us, you must be a sicko of some kind!” That’s because the creation message is kept from them, ridiculed and denounced.

When kids are told they are just animals, we shouldn’t be surprised when they act like them.

Don’t despair, beloved. God has given us tools to fight back: Three tracts, all on evolution, used as a set, will break through that mental barrier of kids. One isn’t enough. It’s got to be all three: Big Daddy, There Go the Dinosaurs and our newest one, Moving on Up! We hit evolution from three sides.

Not only do teens need this, but adults do, too. The messages are powerful but done with humor to entice the reader and pull him into the gospel message. These three tracts together will make an impact. I pray you see the potential. It could turn a godless school upside down!

Jack T Chick, chick.com 38 Comments [7/2/2008 8:58:07 PM]
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Quote# 42186

One reason that men abuse their wives is because women rebel against their husband's God-given authority, a Southern Baptist scholar said Sunday in a Texas church.

Bruce Ware, professor of Christian theology at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., said women desire to have their own way instead of submitting to their husbands because of sin.

"And husbands on their parts, because they're sinners, now respond to that threat to their authority either by being abusive, which is of course one of the ways men can respond when their authority is challenged--or, more commonly, to become passive, acquiescent, and simply not asserting the leadership they ought to as men in their homes and in churches," Ware said from the pulpit of Denton Bible Church in Denton, Texas.

Bruce Ware, Southern Baptist Scholar Links Spouse Abuse to Wives' Refusal to Submit to Their Husbands 40 Comments [7/2/2008 8:56:11 PM]
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Submitted By: Sir Michael L. Foley
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Quote# 42150

[This is his signature]

Satan used to be an angel but he turned evil into Satan
a Guy from GWAR is an athiest and sometimes dresses as satan in concert
so he is an athiest that worships satan
so athiest=satan
duh

Tuky, World of Warcraft Off-Topic Discussion 61 Comments [7/2/2008 6:04:04 PM]
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Quote# 42181

[After another user explains how "under God" wasn't added to the Pledge of Allegiance until the Red Scare of the 1950s]

"I've never heard anything rometly close to this and it almost seems this sort of thing was made up so people who want "under God" romoved can cover their tracks."

[And then, later on in the same conversation]

"I remember learning about America in freaking middle school and I've never heard the "red scare" in all my life."

Masked_Chris, Christian Forums 48 Comments [7/2/2008 5:26:34 PM]
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Quote# 42118

If you say proteins can make themselves....prove it.

If DNA can evolce, prove it, where is the evidence? all the evidence says it it impossible for what you are saying to happen. All the evidene points to creation.
As soon as you say..."well if you give it enough time it could happen." hold it....you just left science and went into religeon and didnt even notice it.

Jesuslovesyoutoo, Controversies Forum 37 Comments [7/2/2008 5:19:08 PM]
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Submitted By: Mithcoriel
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Quote# 42098

An advanced syllogism using both Thaxton's specified complexity and Dawkins idea of god ("River of Eden"?) might be:

DNA processes are carried out by an intelligent agent. God is an intelligent agent. Thus, DNA is GOD

DNA doesnt care about suffering because DNA does't care about anything DNA is God

God doesn't care about suffering, or anything. Copyright Eric Peterson 2004

I believe this argument is sound and valid. What does your staff think? If you publish this, include my name.

Truly

Eric Peterson, Phoenix AZ, BA Philosophy-Eastern Michigan Univ.

Eric Peterson, Talkorigins.org 39 Comments [7/2/2008 5:15:07 PM]
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Submitted By: John_in_Oz
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Quote# 42235

Evo/Atheist hypocrisy

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I find it so very interesting how atheists are so sure of themselves that there is no God, and that all lifeforms somehow appeared and evolved randomly, without any sort of intelligence to either start or fuel the process. And even more interesting is how they seem so utterly confident in this illogical position.

Of course, this mindset is ludicrous...and here's why: Evos/atheists (Yes, they're one in the same on this forum) don't believe the universe was created by God, who by definition is a creator and thus capapble of creating........so essentially, what they don't believe in is an entity capable of creating existence.

So if that is the case, my question is this: if God (a capable entity) isn't responsible for existence, what is?....something not capable? And how are you so sure of yourself when you don't really know what this non-capable thing is?

Paradoxically, natural selection is claimed to be a creative entity (Darwin and his minions claim it's responsible for speciation and evolution as a whole), yet it's never been tested scientifically or proven to produce a single thing or adapt even one population.

So what we have is a small sect of people (10% of the population) who believe whole-heartedly via blind faith in a biological mechanism that has never been seen or proven to create or adapt anything, yet at the same time, they are so absolutely sure of themselves that no entity exists who is capable of creating existence.

Does anyone else see the hypocrisy and religiousness of this?

supersport, CARM 34 Comments [7/2/2008 5:05:17 PM]
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Quote# 42183

I do have a dog a big beautifull lab who is well taken care of mabey even spoiled. I'am not hatefull im just sicks of f@gots and there disrespect of god and the bodys he or she gave them. Plus my kids dont need to see them fondle eachother in public. GO TONY STEWERT

[so slims treats his dog better than his fellow human beings..wonder how his God (he or she) feels about that...]

Gays are not human, Humans procreate. gays just give birth to desease. I'am really not religous. I can understand how nature works cant you.

slimsnowslider, Salt Lake Tribune Opinion Section 67 Comments [7/2/2008 4:46:40 PM]
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Quote# 42117

the bible is not behind in modern knowledge at all. it speaks of the earths roundness the anatomy of animals etc.


God has made it so easy to get to heaven and he constantly tries to persuade atheists through other people and their conscience etc and for those who died without ever hearing about him, they are judged by thier conscience in which is written thew laws of God. Those who have heard however will be held accountable. God has an abundance of patience and will constantly try to convince the non-believer of his existence, even to the point of near death experiences Ive heard stories of people who have been to hell and were lucky enough to have another chance to straighten up. God himself says however that he isnt going to strive with men forever.

hikari4light, Controversies Forum 43 Comments [7/2/2008 3:48:17 PM]
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Submitted By: Mithcoriel
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Quote# 42107

[In a thread about the CNN specisl "God's Warriors"]

one key point (and i wrote cnn with a list of 14) was she did not compare any of the segments with any criteria taken from the Bible. it was assumed that all were fighting for the same God, which they are not, and it was assumed that each faith had it right, which they don't.

archaeologist, Grace Centered Forums 24 Comments [7/2/2008 2:29:02 PM]
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Submitted By: DuzmA
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Quote# 42147

ok this is to everyone that said they disagree with me on my last post.
I understand that you may have different opinions, and will take offense, but that was just my opinion, its different for everyone. If I didn't believe in God I would be like that im 100% sure. Atheism is communism, every country that has gone Atheist has gone communist, like China, and like USSR was.

Gorby, Ctrl+Alt+Del forums 37 Comments [7/2/2008 2:10:23 PM]
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Quote# 42166

My parents' dog would refuse to be lead past a house in our town that is reputedly haunted. No science textbook can explain these events, but the Bible can. That ticks another box for the Bible being divinely inspired.

Mahershalalhashbaz, http://richarddawkins.net/forum/ 52 Comments [7/2/2008 1:27:17 PM]
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Submitted By: Rifter
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Quote# 42130

Do you realize that school children worldwide are told we come from monkeys, or goo? And they believe it without question! Can you imagine the gigantic effort and cost to pull this off? National Geographic, all leading publications, popes, politicians, leaders, scientists and most teachers are in on it.

[Chick then proposes the solution: Buy more Chick Tracts!]

Don’t despair, beloved. God has given us tools to fight back: Three tracts, all on evolution, used as a set, will break through that mental barrier of kids. One isn’t enough. It’s got to be all three: Big Daddy, There Go the Dinosaurs and our newest one, Moving on Up! We hit evolution from three sides.

Jack T Chick, Battle Cry Newsletter at Chick.com 61 Comments [7/2/2008 12:22:33 PM]
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Quote# 42144

the fact is that nobody is oppressed in the United states.
People like Homosexuals and many blacks like to keep pedaling that idea for their own political ends but it's a lie and they all know it.

The only thing that the Oboma's and democrats are going to do is make Homosexuals into super citizens.
and after that other groups will get on the band wagon and pretty soon the only ones not considered to be super citizens will be white Christians.
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If you look at each of these states that has legalized Homosexual marriage it is very plane that the people of those states Don't want it at all.
It's Liberal God hating Judges that are making policy from the bench.

These judges much like the liberal media people are another group that would be shot by our forefathers for treason.

This is getting so sickening when our leaders are telling us that they want us to vote for them because they are the Champions of the Homosexual Sodomites.

turtle, Rapture Ready! 35 Comments [7/2/2008 12:21:42 PM]
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Quote# 42236

I dont get you athiest you all talk like your all sciencetist but the first rule of science is to observe. So observe the universe what do you see.
1.Complexity
2.Design
3.Order
Now tell me if an explosion can bring any one of these three things, it cant! But it brings the opposite.

DDFF232, YouTube 48 Comments [7/2/2008 11:25:07 AM]
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Quote# 42123

Auto-correct can be a very helpful feature of any word-processing program. But when conservatives use it, they run the risk of embarrassing themselves.

... the American Family Association’s OneNewsNow website takes the phenomenon one step further with its AP articles. The far-right fundamentalist group replaces the word “gay” in the articles with the word “homosexual.” I’m not entirely sure why, but it seems to make the AFA happy.

...My friend Kyle reported this morning that sprinter Tyson Gay won the 100 meters at the U.S. Olympic track and field trials over the weekend. The AFA ran the story, but only after the auto-correct had “fixed” the article.

That means — you guessed it — the track star was renamed “Tyson Homosexual.” The headline on the piece read, “Homosexual eases into 100 final at Olympic trials.”

AFA Auto-correct, Carpey Bagger Report 39 Comments [7/2/2008 9:28:57 AM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random
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Quote# 42134

You ignored the other list of people I gave to you, and your calling me ignorant? I know the quote of Josephus is questionable, but there are many others and I gave you a list. Where is your evidence of Christianity taking over the roman empire by force? Where is your evidence of it taking the people in charge to gain power? Constantine chose Christianity because he didn't want his empire to be destroyed on his death bead. I can only thank him for ending the major atrocities against Christianity, but when pagan ideals entered the church at that time, that roman catholic church, it went down and became corrupt, only then, when PAGANISM entered Christianity, did the evils begin to occur. The Christians of old, they were true, they followed the Bible step for step and they were loving, because they followed a religion of love, now give me the verse that tells Christians to burn witches, kill idolaters, and steel land.

Spectersparten, Youtube Comments 28 Comments [7/2/2008 5:06:56 AM]
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Submitted By: ChildeofMalkav
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Quote# 42135

How do I save my son's soul from the going to The Bad Place(H*ll)?

Yesterday, I was washing my 13 year old son's laundry and one of his socks was stuck together from the inside. Needless to say, he must've engaged in b*dily behaviors that are unbiblical.

I am not kidding here, I am a level four Top Contributor, and I would not ask this for laughs. I realize how serious this is, as I have once fell prey to these horrible and defiant a*ts against God.

A translation of Genesis 38 and the story of Onan was:

"It is better to cast your seed in the belly of a whore than spill it on the ground."

That may not have been in the text itself, but I hold it to my religion beliefs. I would rather not talk to him about this. I am thinking about installing a camera in his room, not a hidden camera mind you, and removing the locks on all doors in the house.

My father did something of the like for meI now realize why it was he did that, it was for the better.

I do not want my son going to the bad place, our family must stick together. and if one falls we all fall

Additional Details

When I threw away the stuck together sock, it had a yellowish tinge.

I remember that tinge from the days I fell from grace.

Putting cameras in my son's room is not illegal.

I am pretty familiar with the law, me being a lawyer and all.

Robert Wilkins, Yahoo! Answers 114 Comments [7/2/2008 5:05:44 AM]
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Submitted By: John Nelson
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Quote# 42137

I live just outside Philly. The City has turned completely gay, and now obviously athiest as well. We used to take the kids to the Museums, but not anymore - if you do, you have to let your children see men groping each others testicles in public. Its more dispicable than you can ever imagine.

Anonymous, OneNewsNow 65 Comments [7/2/2008 5:03:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Phil
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Quote# 42116

[This is all spread over several posts.]
[Complains about God torturing people who don't have blind faith. "I thought god is love"]

A loving hand is not one devoid of punishment, such is a careless hand.

["Is it fair to be punished for thinking the wrong way?"]

for being told the gospel of christ over and over again and refusing until you die and its too late? certainly.
[...]
hell is the final punishment for atheists because they were told to do something again and again and didn't tats punishment.
[...]
Gods not giving us anymore signs, eithe you believe or you don't if you don't you suffer the consequences. simple as that.

hikari4light, Controversies Forum (Originally Youtube) 28 Comments [7/2/2008 4:58:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Mithcoriel
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Quote# 42109

[In response to the question of whether or not science was a religion]

I've noticed some atheists get religious about it. I've met a few materialist-fundies who wanted all of the theists to be killed, or die somehow, etc. The Malthusian depopulationists totally remind me of the Nazis, too. Back in those days, for a while, it was a vital part of "Darwinism", and natural-selection was viewed by some as the sacred natural process which produced superiority via death and non-mercy. I've also noticed many quasi-darwinist quacks whom advocate flawed ideologies of genetic superiority only arising from random genetic mutations and competitive killing/starvation between one species and another.

Your Fellow Human, PhysOrg 25 Comments [7/2/2008 3:49:42 AM]
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Submitted By: DuzmA
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