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Quote# 46209

I believe in evolution to a certain extent. I read all the theories of Darwin, and I have come to the conclusion that in the beginning of time there was one fish, one bird, one reptile, one bear, on feline, etc. which evolved into the many fish/birds/reptiles we have today, for this there is overwhelming evidence. However, there is no valid proof that fish evolved into horses and what not! Even if we did evolve from one common ancestor who created him? All the experiments of how a cell could have formed on the prehistoric each have been proved to have faulty chemicals. For example the leading experiment, which supposedly proves how life began, is the Miller and Urey experiment, however scientists have proven that the original simulations of earth atmosphere were not accurate! As for the statement that man and every other creature have evolved over time from one common ancestor has no real leading evidence. Basically scientists argue this point with to points, the fossil record and homologous body structures. However, the fossil record is incomplete and there are no real ape/human fossils. As for the homologous body structure scientist simply look at the bones in birds and try to locate similar bones in alligators. I do not think that these are very valid pieces of evidence. In fact Darwin himself manufactured one of the ape/human fossils and tried to pass it of as a fossil. I believe in Christianity because I read the Case for Christ, which backs up the claims to Christianity with logic and evidence! I suggest buying the teen edition for whoever is interested it’s about 100 pages and it’s a quick read.

pasadena babe, Gaia Online 38 Comments [8/30/2008 6:58:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Fishcakes
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Quote# 46166

Q u o t e:

The human population spiked when we slowly evolved into the intelligent creatures we are today. We have completely wiped out natural selection with medicine and a domination figure over the food chain. And fossils? Lol, fossils are insanely rare, and not to meniton we're one of the smaller creatures compared to what we normally find. Maybe we can't recognize some of our ancestors fossils because they're so different.

When you take into account the flood, and around the time it happened, and work up population growth from there, you get the amount of people on earth today. We have found fossils smaller than our human body, we have found fossils that are very small.

Sorry

Skraip aka Elazur, WoW offtopic 23 Comments [8/30/2008 6:57:32 AM]
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Quote# 46172

We were genetically manufactured by aliens. I know you will all reply "get your tinfoil hat" but just remember I said this when you find out.

Oh and just fyi there is something behind the bible and other religious books and there is a creator. However it's not something we can fully understand just yet.

Hochiminn, WoW offtopic 29 Comments [8/30/2008 6:53:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Worldsend
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Quote# 46197

All true Christians ought to go to the lengths that Davis did to keep sodomy and its supporters out of our schools. Any man that can go to such trouble to keep out sodomy from our schools can only be deemed a martyr. To suggest that his actions were wrong would be the equivalence of allowing female gang members to strap guns to their chests in differing checkerboard patterns to not only signify their alleigances, but also to allow felons the same self-defense rights hardworking Heartland Americans do.

Ixion, Calvinists4Conservatism 33 Comments [8/30/2008 6:47:06 AM]
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Quote# 46178

I agree therse always 2 ways to look at a situation.
But the creationist believes that God made it that way.
Evolutionist believe it evolved that way.

Niether one can prove it. But the creationist admit theirs is a religion.
Evolutionist dont.

Both must BELIEVE it happened.

Fifth, WoW offtopic 35 Comments [8/30/2008 6:38:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Worldsend
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Quote# 46251

[on the question: is obama the most unbiblical candidate ever?]

what else do you expect from a Muslim christian and his rev Jerimiah Wright that condems America. The only difference between Obama and Osama is the letter B.

4given, Rapture Ready 50 Comments [8/30/2008 6:35:24 AM]
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Quote# 46177

NO theres 2 kinds of evolution. This is how science tries to trick you. There is Micro and macro evolution.

I BELIEVE in micro evolution. Which is variation within is kind. You bredd a bunch of dogs and you'll get big dogs small dogs. This is observable. which i makes it science. Have you ever seen a dog get a non dog? how much breeding must you do put wings onto a dog?

MACRO evolution is species bring on another species. this is not science and is a religion.
MACRO evolution is religion. You must BELIEVE it happened. NOONE has observed this.

Fifth, WoW offtopic 40 Comments [8/30/2008 6:35:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Worldsend
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Quote# 46237

Jesus teaches in Matthew 18:3 that in order to enter the kingdom of heaven, we must come as a child. Without child-like faith we cannot experience the Kingdom. Children naturally trust and believe easily unless they have been hurt or abused. It is tragic to find a fearful, non-trusting, and suspicious child. These are symptoms of emotional damage.

Dele, Telegraph comments section 30 Comments [8/30/2008 6:08:10 AM]
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Submitted By: Jenna
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Quote# 46080

John MacArthur mentioned several important things about what Jesus thought of the Old Testament in a recent sermon series. Here are some of them plus my own comments.

For one thing, He thought He wrote it (and I believe him). Christians have traditionally held these views:

Jesus is God as He claimed to be.
God inspired the Bible.
Therefore, Jesus inspired the Bible.
Interestingly, the references Jesus made to the Old Testament were often the most controversial parts and/or those characters that some liberal theologians think were fictional - Satan, Noah, Jonah, Sodom. When Jesus refers to them there isn’t even a hint that they weren’t real.

He didn’t appear to have any problem with the destruction of the world (except for Noah and his family) and He clearly taught that the majority of people will go to Hell. So we should dispense with the false dichotomy of the vengeful Old Testament God and the kinder, gentler New Testament God right here.

Neil, 4Simpsons Blog 21 Comments [8/30/2008 6:04:08 AM]
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Quote# 46191

The evolution theory say we came from rocks. No? if you do it backward to "it rained on the rocks for billions of years and prebiotic soup is formed. I'll look up the exact text when I find it

Fifth, WoW offtopic 40 Comments [8/30/2008 5:58:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Worldsend
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Quote# 46443

You guys and gals think Christianity is a disease. The only disease are Lust, Greed, , Pride and disrepect.
Blood of Jesus is the cure for the sin.

After the Tribulation Christian Jews and the Christians will rule this rule under that hands of righteous of God the father and Jesus Christ the son of God.


By the way Thanks.

DanddoSeri(LoneWolf1984), XC forums 29 Comments [8/30/2008 5:34:29 AM]
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Quote# 46346

Why do people reject documented/recorded facts to follow what can not be proven?

A good example of this is dinosaurs. There has been, and still are, paintings and carvings of humans and dinosaurs together, but people reject these and keep saying that dinosaurs dies 65 million years ago. There was no one there to see it, and there is no way to test it. The known dating methods have been proven wrong in EVERY test I have ever heard of were the date was already known, accepted despite a 100% failure, and despite the FACT that there is proof of dinosaurs in the past 1,000 years India, 200 years in North America, and even some siting of dinosaurs STILL alive in the swamp in Africa, the forests of South America, and people who have seen the Locc ness monster claim that it is a dinosaur.

Dinger, Yahoo! Answers 33 Comments [8/30/2008 5:28:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Bowen
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Quote# 46144

[In response to science not dealing in absolute proof]

then it is unreliable.you say that evolution is science and that creation is not. well guess what mark? if that is true and that science doesn't deal in absolutes is also true then creation holds more validity then evolution because evolution doesn't deal in absolutes.the thing is that it does. gravity is an absolute. if you drop something it will fall.

[next response to being YEC and denying physics, chemistry, geology, biology, etc]

ummm mark I've already used all of those fields to pawn you. every single one of them disproves evolution. but I must remember that you didn't really learn those but whatever your teachers wanted to call those.

Heartbrokenbrad, Flyleaffans.com 38 Comments [8/30/2008 1:54:10 AM]
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Quote# 46232

Remember when God created the world? It was by His Word and instantly there it was. The whole world will know when God acts. No one will wonder. It will be supernatural.

His Bride, Rapture Ready 51 Comments [8/30/2008 1:51:26 AM]
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Submitted By: fritistat
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Quote# 46196

[on the Ponce de Leon high school witch hunt against gays affair]

Ah, the Anti Christian Labor Union strikes again. Why do they hate independent communities, local governments, state rights, and America? The principal did the right thing in letting the rest of the community know that a sodomist was attempting to force her agenda on them. Lest we allow American to fall into a similar quandry as Canada, the land of militant female sodomy, we must exterminate this filth wherever we go, be it the schools, the courthouses, or their bedrooms.

Ixion, Calvinists4Conservatism 55 Comments [8/30/2008 1:51:21 AM]
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Submitted By: Fundiebuster
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Quote# 46152

[Question:
To the Christians who have non-believing children?
Are they going to hell?]


Answer:

just beat them. With a rod, like it tells me to in the bible.

Bob J Member since:, Yahoo Answers 56 Comments [8/30/2008 1:50:50 AM]
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Submitted By: Lola Flores
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Quote# 46140

Atheists of R&S? When it comes to dismissing God, is it merely a question as to which paradigm you adhere to??
So atheists (I'm talking about the somewhat educated ones) Is a "scientistic" paradigm preferable to a supernatural one... it seems that given the progress of science (which does indeed deserve credit) one cannot be blamed for falling for the trap of "scientism" can they???

How can you justify such adherence to a paradigm when both supernaturalism and naturalism are conjectural when it comes to questions about cosmological origins?

Is not atheism merely an hypothesis at best, but at worst merely dismissive ignorance founded on lack of education and cheap jack opportunistic rebellion???

Your thoughts??

Methuselah (Turned Theist), Yahoo Answers 35 Comments [8/30/2008 1:48:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Lola Flores
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Quote# 46156

(Response to a Rapture Ready mom who is upset her son is learning evolution)

Creationism is touted as a part of Christian religion so is mostly banned. Some Christian teachers are more sympathetic, but over all, evolution is forced down throats as absolute fact-despite the lack of any evidence at all.
This is true even in the Bible Belt of the south.

I suggest you start giving a balanced education on this because the push is on to: enlighten kids out of their parents dark age understandings [/sarcasm]

Go to Answers in Genesis. Piles and piles of information from scientists that support creation. If you can, try to find Ben Steins movie "Expelled" It is a real eye opener to what your child will be force fed as 'truth'.
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funmudder, RaptureReady 28 Comments [8/30/2008 1:41:52 AM]
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Submitted By: FundieFinder
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Quote# 46283

But, remember, the majority of Jews rejected Jesus Christ also.

I'm not in the least bit surprised that they are endorsing Obama.

mercyandgrace, Rapture Ready 33 Comments [8/29/2008 10:57:52 PM]
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Quote# 46157

How come there were no open atheists during Salem witch trials?


[Really!]

ThomasJeffersonn, Yahoo Answers 58 Comments [8/29/2008 10:32:34 PM]
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Submitted By: Lola Flores
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Quote# 46110

The more and more world events seem to unfold, I feel like a big scripted
play is being acted out. The politics is being acted out. The disasters are
being acted out. The religious aspect is being acted out. The only thing
real to me is Jesus and what his kingdom stands for. What we are seeing
is the orchastration of so many things and at the final moment, God is going
to sound the trumpet and call us to himself. As a side note, I have always
had this feeling that I won't be here in 2009. In some form or fashion...
So, God's will be done.

Diamond, Rapture Ready 56 Comments [8/29/2008 10:12:06 PM]
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Submitted By: fritistat
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Quote# 46151

but all this information about isotopes lasting for half a billion years cant really be 100% accurate, when was it we figured all this lasted that long? 100 years ago or less? we have not experienced enough to be able to prove everything about science either, the only thing that is proven about science is what that person really wants to believe just like we Christians. we have what we believe and are always conflicting on the subjects of creationism vs. evolution

in the end when we die, we will see who is right and wrong, if you dont believe, we are upset for you, if you do, well, we believe we will see you in the afterlife

faith does not cause wars and such, its greed and power that is exploited through religions that do

any Muslim as any Christian will tell you, their beliefs are based on loving one another and following certain rules that help keep us tied in with our chosen faith, its when people choose to enforce their belief on others is when we have problems

Millaneous, WoW offtopic 35 Comments [8/29/2008 10:12:04 PM]
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Submitted By: Worldsend
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Quote# 46173

I like everything in science, but the evolution theory is the biggest fail.

For one, we date fossils by the geographical columns we find them in but we date the columns by which ever fossil you find in them. Circular reasoning.

Carbon-dating has a huge faulty assumption. I'm not going to explain how it works in details, but it assumes the amount of carbon in the earths atmosphere remained constant throughout millions of years. Why carbon in atmosphere matters? Short explaination, plant absorbs CO2, animals eat them, its in their flesh, then you date the flesh.

Living snails have been dated few thousand years old. Keep in mind, they're living. On mammoths, the skin of the mammoth and another part of it has a difference of few thousand years(you can look up many examples of this). Talk about slow growth.

Plus fossils doesn't prove evolution. We have not found ONE missing link. The only thing fossils tells you is that it died. You don't know if those fossils have any kids, let alone different kids.

Evolution is based on dwarvins natural selection theory.
In order for natural selection to work we must have mutation. There are NO beneficial mutations.
Flys have been nuked and gotten all kinds of flys. Flys that fly in circles, zigzag, no wings, etc. All which is worst off than the original.

The ONE beneficial mutation you'll always hear is, people with sickle cell amneia can't get malaria. That isnt a benefit both sickle cell and malaria is negative. Thats like saying people without arms cant get handcuffed.

And natural selection is a perfection process. In order for it to work, you must have the one with a beneficial trait live and ALL the rest must die, otherwise the genes will blend right back into the population. Not just that, natural selection is a checking process. Imagine a automobile line. Your job is to make sure all the working cars make it through, thsoe that don't work, missing a part, etc, throw it out.
Let me ask you. how long will this process take to turn the car into a helicopter? NEVER. Its a self checking process.

I can go on and on about this topic.

Fifth, WoW offtopic 54 Comments [8/29/2008 10:11:58 PM]
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Submitted By: Worldsend
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Quote# 46167

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the pro deathers here have no problem killing innocent babies in the womb, but whine about facing an adult on the radio.

they have no problem justifying killing innocent unborn babies, but try and rationalize their cowardice at facing an adult on the radio.

Cowards!

Come on "men"..... come on you "big strong 'men'".

Why hide behind the convenience of unholy laws, of sterile definitions, and the internet discussion boards. Too afraid to face me in public, live?

Yeah... cowards.

Cowards beat up on the weak and helpless but run when it comes to facing someone who can fight.

Where are the men????

The pro deather cowards here have no problem getting women pregnant and then putting THEM through the emotional trauma of destroying the life withing their bodies. They enjoy their lusts and kill to cover it up.

They aren't men. They are males.

Men protect the innocent, stand up for the weak, and fight for righteousness.

So, I'm a man. What are you?
fight me here... Faith and Reason Radio M-F, 6-7 PM, MST, 208 377 3790

Matt Slick, CARM 50 Comments [8/29/2008 10:11:39 PM]
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Quote# 46127

When we prayed about my blood sugar, those numbers came right down to where they should be. Now I need help lowering another number--my weight. I have exhausted every possible human effort, and it will take a miracle for me to lose weight. However, I am a Christian and I do believe in miracles. So please join me in prayer, and let's get ready to see one happen.

LovebirdsFlying, ChristianForums.com 69 Comments [8/29/2008 10:10:50 PM]
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