Quote# 46046

[This was Byers' summary dismissal of evidence for African hominid ancestry based upon nothing more than the refusal of said evidence to genuflect before his worthless mythology based doctrine ... oh, and enjoy the part where he claims, Supersport style, that DNA isn't responsible for morphological change, but somehow changes after the fact to reflect it ... all in his usual inimitable style, namely that of sub-crayon literacy]

Ok I listened to most of it and its old info to me. I think I've seen this guy everywhere with this genetic stuff. In fact I think he did one about connecting Australians natives with India. Another story.

Africa again. Nonsense. It was from Babel down the road from the mts of Ararat.
All these conclusions are based on the dna trail.
Well I dismiss the trail because I insist sudden changes in the body bring atomic alignment changes that change dna.
I insist marsupials are just minor adaptations from placentals. Different dna from the change incident and not a dna heritage of the marsupial creatures. just the change revamped everything.
So likewise in human black Africa. At least two peoples went to Africa, according to the bible, and they would of instantly had to change to the new envirorment. Instant black and other details and later details. so different people groups had to radically change and this would include dna change. Other peoples in the world only changed their dna to a lesser degree from the original from babel. The black African body is the most different from everyone else. many details.
These genetic ideas are based on presumptions of long slow process drift. If change is instant and flexible then the trail is false.
The best way to track mankinds movements is by language. The african langiages can probably be brought down to just a few original ones. The centre for diversity in languages is in Asia just about old babel. Thats the origin of mankinds migrations.

Robert Byers, Richard Dawkins Forums 30 Comments [8/28/2008 7:50:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Calilasseia

Quote# 46039

The danger seems to be that by implying any comminality with Islam, you grant it legitimacy.

Wally, Rapture Ready 21 Comments [8/28/2008 7:43:53 AM]
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Quote# 46038

I believe that Islam IS satan's religion. What else could it be....with all their evil thoughts of killing and blowing people up, who have done no harm to any Muslims?

TeachMe, Rapture Ready 36 Comments [8/28/2008 7:43:49 AM]
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Quote# 46057

We take the Bible very seriously because it is the Word of God. It has remained unchanged for thousands of years. It also has been found infallible and historically accurate.

apostle jeff, yahoo answers 40 Comments [8/28/2008 7:43:37 AM]
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Submitted By: senorchipotle

Quote# 46045

The red square Nebula baffles scientists because of its perfectly square structure, reminding the one of a diamond.

On top of that, it has been observed as it is approaching the earth

In space, objects with a red tint are known to come closer to the earth, whereas objects with a bluecolor tint are known to move away from the earth.

Question: Could it be the NEW JERUSALEM, "coming down from Heaven, as a bride adorned for her husband (Revelation, 21st chapter)???

Also, its "diamond shaped" structure that looks "crystal-like" reminds me that the Holy City is described in Revelation 21st chapter as "clear as crystal"...

Only time will tell. If this is not the Heavenly Jerusalem, moving closer to the earth, as the Bible has foretold, then we can suppose it is just a type, which to me is a harbinger of the real thing!

Anne, christian-forum.net 46 Comments [8/28/2008 7:43:19 AM]
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Quote# 46036

"I've never stumped before, but I want to be a part of this," Bumgarner said. The retired insurance executive and devout Mormon said his late mother would "turn over in her grave" if she knew that gays and lesbians could marry.

With less than 11 weeks until Election Day, supporters of Proposition 8 are ramping up their field organization and refining their message as they seek to persuade California voters to shut the door on same-sex marriage. It's the first time voters will be asked to weigh in on the issue in either California or Massachusetts — the states where gays have won the right to wed.

An estimated 15,000 backers of the measure, most of them members of Mormon, Catholic and evangelical Christian churches, knocked on doors and distributed campaign literature to registered voters throughout the state this weekend and last, according to Jennifer Kerns, spokeswoman for the Yes on 8 campaign.
Almendariz led a team of five people canvassing a suburban neighborhood southeast of Sacramento on Saturday, and their script was concise. The volunteers told people who answered their doors they were with the Proposition 8 campaign, an effort that would define marriage as being between a man and a woman. They didn't mention same-sex marriage unless a resident brought it up.

Fundies in california, San Fransisco Chronicle 31 Comments [8/28/2008 7:41:22 AM]
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Submitted By: Tallon

Quote# 46013

You act as if stupidity were a virtue. I could call you a sub human pagan savage but you already know that so what is the point. Remember this pin head, All education and knowledge is meaningless and worthless without a CHILD LIKE CONFIDENCE IN GOD. Evidently your parents failed miserably instilling this in you when you were still uncorrupted by the liberal demonic freaks of the world.

Richard D'Orlando, Pharyngula 33 Comments [8/28/2008 7:35:09 AM]
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Quote# 46054

Why are those children starving in Africa?

Let me answer that this way. If I send a bag of rice to the starving in Africa, some of them will eat, and by eating, they will find the strength to conceive offspring. Then there will be more mouths to feed, and still about the same hope of feeding them. It's not God's fault, and it's not my fault.[..]

It was NEVER smart to try to live in a desert in the first place. Some African ancestor had a really DUMB idea way back when. There are all sorts of wild beasts out there.... Whoever settled there in the first place just wasn't as
good at picking a home place as my ancestors. I think I have answered your question sufficiently.

Bridging The Gap, Human Evolution blog 51 Comments [8/28/2008 7:30:56 AM]
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Quote# 46097

[Question: Do Christians believe that cavemen existed?]

No, I don't.

Read my answer to another guy's similar question:

Neanderthals were perfectly modern humans who lived during the first few hundred years after the Flood. Before the Flood, people were living to be over 900 years old, due to an atmosphere that protected them from the sun's damaging rays that cause aging.

After the Flood, this protective layer was gone, so the damaging rays came in and started wreaking havoc on our bodies. The people who lived after the Flood could still live for a few hundred years, but that began to dwindle from about 400 down to 300, then 200, and today, few people make it to 100. When a person reaches a great age, their facial bones start to change. Their skulls thicken, their brow ridges thicken, and their noses and ears enlarge. Many of the Neanderthals were found with rickets, which is caused by a Vitamin D deficiency. We get Vitamin D from the Sun. During the time after the Flood, there was a great amount of volcanic activity due to the plates that were shifting up and down and back and forth from the weight of the Flood water on the mantle. This caused a great amount of volcanic activity, which blocked out the sun, thus causing the Rickets.

After the Earth began to stabilize, the human race also began to stabilize, and since we couldn't live as long anymore, we ceased to have the bone-thickening symptoms that go with extreme old age. Neanderthals and modern Man are the same.

KiraJenLove, Yahoo Answers 45 Comments [8/28/2008 7:28:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Lola Flores

Quote# 46032

[Could everyone live 900 years in the beginning of the Old Testament?]

Everyone could live for hundreds of years until the angels fell in love with the humans on earth and married them. That is why the Lord made it so that no one would live past 120 years old.

RebeccaT., Y! answers 41 Comments [8/28/2008 3:30:20 AM]
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Quote# 46159

Artist's Comments
Christians(We) think that God made us in his Image from dirt.

Some people think there is a God and they also believe in Evolution.

Which side do we look more like?

This person wants to debate.

LoneWolf1984, deviantART 75 Comments [8/28/2008 3:09:27 AM]
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Quote# 45989

Humans have desires. Wait, to keep it a bit simpler, I'll use men. Men desire various things, not all shared, and not all clearly understood how such desires come about. Some desire feet, legs, pantyhose, SPANDEX, lips, balloons, tongues, boobs, diapers, bondage, condoms, fingernails, underage children, vagina's and yes, penis (etc...). The point is, homosexuality is a developed fetish lumped in with the rest. If a guy didn't have a penis, there would be a cease and desist on MOST homosexuality

BODYSHEENdotcom, JohnLArmstrong YouTube channel 59 Comments [8/28/2008 3:00:56 AM]
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Quote# 46014

[i][If the oldest hominid bones found in Israel are Neanderthals, how come they weren't gods chosen people?][/i]

Those neanderthals as science calls them are what the BIBLE calls the serpents before their curse.These were from evolution.That to is taught in the BIBLE.Cain is the seed of the serpent.This is the offspring of the sexual contact between the woman and the serpent/caveman.That is the missing link by the way.Cains family tree is portrayed in genesis ch 4.Adam is the son of GOD.His family tree is portrayed in genesis ch 5.These two separate and distinct gene-pools crossed in genesis ch 6.Therefore GOD'S chosen people must be linked to him genetically.Which these cavemen aren't in any way.

stotlerdavid, Yahoo! Absurdity 29 Comments [8/28/2008 3:00:17 AM]
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Submitted By: fritistat

Quote# 45999

I went to call our town police yesterday to ask if and where there is a bomb shelter here in town, but, then I thought that they may think I'm a nut, so I did'nt call. I know you all are smart, so are there still these? Because I always ask Jesus that in the event of an attack that I don't want to be alone.
He then spoke to my heart that my neighbor right next door is elderly and lives alone and cannot drive, so take her with me to ? ( she is super cranky and mean and I've tried to gently witness to her with baked goods and tracks but I don't know).

Waitin, Rapture Ready 35 Comments [8/28/2008 2:43:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Democritus

Quote# 46129

Evolutionists, if your theory is true, then why haven't bugs evolved the ability to avoid bug zappers?

If everything evolves and gets bigger, stronger, smarter, and better like you say it does, I would think that by now the bugs would have evolved.

Also, why don't germs evolve? According to your theory, they should be evolving to resist the drugs me make.

Soldier For Salvation, Yahoo Answers 77 Comments [8/28/2008 2:22:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Quasarsphere

Quote# 46142

There's no reason a human CAN'T survive in a whale's stomach

Pastorb, WoW offtopic 68 Comments [8/28/2008 1:57:42 AM]
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Submitted By: Worldsend

Quote# 45991

YaOkRight (1 week ago)

If becoming demon possesed and missing the rapture then going to hell is ok than being a homosexual is ok. Homosexuality leads to demon possesion, satans earthly world is leading you astray,with his TV, lying churches, schools.... once the rapture happens and satans govts. deceive you with their ufo technology you have 7 years till the end of the world, get an exorcism you victims of the conspiracy or miss the rapture and die in a FEMA camp, let the real natural selection process take place

YaOkRight, What's Morally Wrong with Homosexuality? 29 Comments [8/27/2008 11:37:12 PM]
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Quote# 45988

It doesnt matter if you believeit or not, noahs ark has been discovered and declared so by the govt of turkey, google "wyatt discovers noahs ark, turkish govt."
Many of you are in need of exorcism to get freed of the demonic forces which are working to prepare the world to accept the gay antichrist, daniel 11:37.Once satans world system deceieves you people with their ufo technology to cover up the rapture you have 7 years till armageddon, become born again or suffer for christ in a fema camp

YaOkRight, What's Morally Wrong with Homosexuality? 49 Comments [8/27/2008 10:28:16 PM]
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Quote# 46029

[Following the comment by Terry is another stereotypical broken record fundie...]

I totally agree with Terry. If the kids had to look at the words,"THOU SHALT NOT KILL" everyday, then maybe their conscience would eat at them and they would think twice about what they are doing. Taking the Ten Commandments out of the schools is when the school shootings all began. Why does everyone let a small percentage of people,who are by the way the minority, determine what goes on? Why can't the rest of us just tell them to shut their mouths and if they don't like it, don't look?! If you take God out of the schools, trouble comes in! Bring back the paddle to the principal's office! That'll straighten some people out! These kids need to be treated like the children they are!Society is letting the kids act a lot older than they really are! Giving them too much freedom! If they act like children, treat them like children!

kymom, 16-Year-Old Killed In School Shooting 47 Comments [8/27/2008 10:22:09 PM]
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Submitted By: Copache

Quote# 46027

...at the moment we are called our bodies are changed, glorified. What that means is our bodies no longer have the limitations they do now. Otherwise, how could someone in a house go through a wall or roof to rise up to meet the Lord in the air?

Mopsie, Rapture Ready 29 Comments [8/27/2008 10:20:07 PM]
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Submitted By: fritistat

Quote# 46022

#1. Islam grows from within, due to the fact the in Middle Eastern nations, Muslims are allowed to have many wives, therefore produce many more Muslims. Not many people convert to Islam, with out a sword at their throat

#2. People aren't allowed to leave Islam, according to the teachings of the Koran, anyone who leaves Islam is to be put to death, so people stay out of fear

Now you know why Islam is on the rise, not because many people find truth in Islam, but because people cant leave. MOST MUSLIMS DONT EVEN BELIEVE IN ISLAM

King Crusader, Holy Army of God 34 Comments [8/27/2008 9:51:29 PM]
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Submitted By: doomie 22

Quote# 46021

[Hide your Irony Meters]

Has anyone here ever considered the reason why Atheists spend so much time refuting something they "don't even care about"? The fact is that they're afraid of God. Deep down they know there is one, but they don't want to believe because they feel better being their own Gods to do whatever they want. They use Believers as a scapegoat for conflicting emotions. Their goal is to convince themselves there is no God so that they can be free of the topic. This will never happen because something in the back of their mind always reminds them that they're wrong. So for all your believers, don't argue with Atheists. They will never believe, no matter what, thus creating their own hell.

Scotty, Yahoo Answers 48 Comments [8/27/2008 9:07:38 PM]
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Submitted By: Just Kiddin'

Quote# 46019

[Question: HOW can you prove the existence of God ? ?

Don't just say " because I know he exists" or " read the Bible, the Torah,the Quran and you will understand".

I want PROOFS.]


Cant use the bible? That's like saying to prove that he doesn't exist...but oh wait... you can't use your science..

Seriously man...get smart.

koombarooshaii, Yahoo Answers 32 Comments [8/27/2008 9:01:31 PM]
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Submitted By: Lola Flores

Quote# 46017

Recently, a friend of ours was prayed for by another minister. Through Discernment, the minister praying for her saw pentagrams (8 pointed star) drawn on her liver. She had been diagnosed with Hepatitis C (a disease effecting the liver and other body parts). The minister did not know this.

While praying for her, the Lord showed us that we could take the Blood of Jesus and “erase” these evil lines drawn on her liver or any part of her body. So we prayed this way:

Father, In Jesus' Name, I take the Blood of Jesus and break the power of all witches, warlocks, wizards, satanists, sorcerers, wiccans, pagans, and any other source, and all of their rituals off of us. With the Blood of Jesus, I erase all evil lines drawn on our liver or any parts of our body, soul, will, and emotions.

Note that this is a “spiritual” act of erasure, just like when we do Spiritual Warfare and pull out all fiery darts, pins, needles, etc. where there is pain in our bodies.

Stan and Elizabeth Madrak, Demonbuster 53 Comments [8/27/2008 8:23:56 PM]
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Quote# 46003

["New Testament. Paul condemns homosexuals (including lesbians)."]

Indeed, which rather makes the point. We seem to be fairly clearly in the realm of religious persecution here, if the teachings of the world's largest religion, the basis of all western civilisation, are described as 'hate'.

I seem to remember that sodomy was legalised on the basis that it was no business of the state what two people did in private. How far we have come from that! Far from being something to be tolerated in private, it seems that anyone who dares to express any hostility is to be demonised, assaulted and abused, and subjected to all the processes
of compulsion known to modern governments, overt and covert. It seems that anyone who opposes the most public expressions of this detestable vice will be lucky not to be arrested.

Perhaps legalisation of this particular vice was indeed deeply unwise -- indeed of anything --, if tolerance of it has now become an excuse for the sort of persecution that we associate with the inquisition.

Roger Pearse, Atheism vs Christianity 35 Comments [8/27/2008 6:19:03 PM]
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Submitted By: David
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