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Quote# 58001

[It says in the Bible that only Jesus went to Heaven...yet in another portion of the Bible it says Elijah went to Heaven as well. How does this dope explain this contradiction? Why, there's more than ONE Heaven of course!]

"The answer is easy once you realize the Bible talks about more than one place called heaven," says Joe Kovacs, author of "Shocked by the Bible: The Most Astonishing Facts You've Never Been Told."

"The Bible actually describes three very different places that all have the name of heaven. The apostle Paul even uses the phrase the third heaven. Obviously, there can't be a third heaven unless there are heavens of the first and second kind as well."

Kovacs explains: "Yes, Elijah did go to heaven. But it was not the heaven of God's dwelling place that many people immediately think of when they hear the H-word, because only Jesus went there. Elijah simply went to 'the first heaven' – that is the sky, the atmosphere of Earth – which the Bible also calls 'heaven.' The truth is that he did return to the ground.

Joe Kovacs, WND 22 Comments [2/8/2009 1:02:35 PM]
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Submitted By: DevilsChaplain
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Quote# 57880

A rational intelligent person will observe both creationism and evolution as interrelated and inconclusive as studies at this present stage. The universe came into being by a thought manifesting itself as a reality. Inter procreation between man and beasts and the mingling of races has blurred any distinctions as such. Man has not evolved from apes although interaction by the two did form such bestial beings giving rise to speculation. Creationism determines Adams innocent fornications with the creature producing a breed of miscreants of sorts. Any attempts to understand the false premise of evolutionary theory is futile as it is inconsistent and unproven. A good scientist can prove or disprove anything at will. It requires not too great an effort on the parts of scientific creationism ...

intuition, yahoo answers 17 Comments [2/8/2009 1:02:24 PM]
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Submitted By: senorchipotle
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Quote# 58275

How come gay people act and even "look" gay? If its just a sin, how could it effect even the appearance? And i am not just talking about the way they dress, tho thats a part of it. I am talking about their facial features even, and the mannerisms. Could sin cause even their facial features to appear gay? Because there are men that i see and you look at them, and its like, they just LOOK gay. Same with lesbians. Some are so masculine LOOKING...and its not because they have no makeup, or have short hair, or are wearing guy clothes..
Can homosexuality even cause the face to appear like the opposite sex?

TwinklingOfanEye, RR 15 Comments [2/8/2009 1:01:48 PM]
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Submitted By: Any
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Quote# 57665

You and your elk really do disgust me. and our new ‘president” does disgust me to. when hussane was running, we warned the world that he was a secret muslim. we warned the world that he would take American away from the path of God and righteousness and down the road of perdition. he has removed God’s loving protection from our great Christian country throu the inclusion of athiests and satin worshppers. By inlcuding muslims and nontbelievers and the hindu, husseen has show his true colors. he is a mulsim out to change America from a Christian nation t oa statanic nation. The proces has already began. now my taxz dollaars are paying to kill babies all over the world. my tax dollaras will help the terrorists in guantanomo to become citizens. my tax dollars will be used to force Americans of faith real Americans to do things like provide abortions or abortion pills or abortion condums which is against their relgion. hussane is out to deny our Christian heritage which inspired our founding fathers to create a Christian nation. Only Christians and Jews who follow the same book and will be perfect in God’s time, are truly Americans. Atheists adn other satin worshippers are only Americans out of the generosity of teh real Americans. I weep for what has become of my nation. God’s protection has been removed. the only way tat America will survive is through all atheists and devil people to freely accept the love provided by our one loving God through the sacrifice of his only Son to wash away our sins. All must be saved by the love of he blood of Christ or America will fall. You, and all of your sinner friends must freely accpet Gods love or be cast into the pit of hell to be tortured for all eternal by the one loving God.

...., (((Billy))) The Atheist 63 Comments [2/8/2009 1:01:18 PM]
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Submitted By: yunshui
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Quote# 57774

My best friend from college is in the same boat - he's too caught up in technology and science, thinks that mankind can do anything. It's rough, but I keep praying.

Now, there are different reasons for not believing in God - this wouldn't apply if she didn't believe because of all the disasters, etc., in the world a different approach is needed, but with my friend, I've at least gotten him to think by talking to him about a lot of proofs that archaeology has turned up, etc.; plus about DNA, how one renowned atheist (forget his name) declared recently that becuase of DNA being so complex, he now believes there had to be an intelligent design.

Also, about heart transplant patients; how they often have the same interests as the donor afterward. (This is a good place to ask what the link was that I think I saw on here to a study about that - I lost it, unfortunately, before I sent it to him.)

he's thinking, anyway - asked me what proof I could give since scientists have discovered pretty much everything about the body and can detect it all as chemical reactions, etc. - I tried to answer him as best I could. He is still thinking, not there yet but there's hope.

A New Creature, rapture ready 22 Comments [2/8/2009 12:16:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Personal Failure
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Quote# 57754

Monday, January 26, 2009
Atheism: the Intellectual Embarrassment.

"Just because a few atheists believe that everything came from nothing doesn't mean that all atheists believe that." Robert Madewell

It’s not a matter of not believing it. It’s a matter of definition. If you say of your Ford Expedition that you have no belief that there was a maker, then you think that nothing made it. It just happened. You have defined yourself as having that mentality.

So if you call yourself an atheist, you are saying that you have no belief in a God--a Creator. Creation just happened. Everything you see--all the different breeds of dog (both male and female), all the different breeds of cat (both male and female), all the different fish in the ocean (both male and female), giraffes, elephants, cattle, sheep, horses, birds, flowers, trees, the sun, the moon, the stars, the four seasons, night and day, the marvels of the human body--the eye with its 137,000,000 light sensitive cells (we have been made well Robert) . . . all these marvels of creation were made by nothing. They all just happened. That’s atheism at its core. What an intellectual embarrassment.

Then the professing atheist has the unbelievable gall to consider himself intelligent, and he thinks that science backs up his delusion. Think of the ludicrous language an atheist is forced to use. He can’t say that creation was "created" and he has to avoid saying that everything has been "made." He will even say that he has no beliefs . . . that he is "without belief." His problem is that he hasn’t thought his beliefs through. If he has any intellectual self-respect he will move from the "nothing created everything" belief, to the "something did it but I just don’t know what it was." And is doing so he distances himself from the embarrassing label of "atheist."

Posted by Ray Comfort on 1/26/2009 07:59:00 AM

ihurt, Rapture Ready 46 Comments [2/8/2009 10:05:02 AM]
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Submitted By: fundiesRtehlulz
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Quote# 57764

*'Americans are not your enemy,' Obama tells Muslims*

No Mr. President, apparently we aren't the enemy because you will allow them on our soil. Give us their tired, their poor, their suicide bombers.
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"We sometimes make mistakes. We have not been perfect."
This was just my favorite !!!!!!!
Why is he taking this weak stance on behalf of Americans??? Did I miss something, why are we cowtowing to Islam now. Sure isn't taking long to show his muslim sympathies.
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As long as we are alive and not muslim, they will consider us their enemies. Its in their book.
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That is also my position on the subject. No America is not Islam's enemy; Islam is America's enemy and as long as Obama does not see that we are in deep doo doo.
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If America stills stands for anything good and righteous in this world, then, yes, we are their enemy. Islam is a force of pure, satanic evil.
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Yes muslim is the enemy they are of satan's devices:

many, RR 26 Comments [2/8/2009 9:51:20 AM]
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Quote# 57892

first off, atheists are always bashing creationism.

2ndly, society will never be wise enough to understand that creationism is actually more probable than evolution. Scientifically there is a 97% chance that Christ rose from the dead (actual study), mutation has not yet been proven to add dna, which is neccessary in the changing of one species to another, they still can't find a missing link.

the fact is, evolution CAN NOT BE PROVEN. to be fair, nothing really can be.

Hey, Ray, Y! Answers 38 Comments [2/8/2009 9:48:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Doctor Jack
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Quote# 58098

This was the last sin at Sodom and Gorrmorah before it was destroyed. I think these perverts need to be treated like sick individuals rather than victims and given civil rights.

EZLazarus, Rapture Ready 19 Comments [2/8/2009 9:33:41 AM]
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Quote# 58080

[lol Young Earth lol

Its a proven scientific fact that the Earth is like, a trillion years old, and in the Bible, it does say that God's time is seperate from our own]


No it's not a "proven scientific fact". There are theories, sure, but these theories must ignore contrary data such as rates of eroding coasts (there would be no land above water if the earth was really millions of years old), sun depletion, supernovas, animal/human populations, unstable carbon levels in the atmosphere, and a host of other things.

OMGWTFPIE, Gamefaqs 28 Comments [2/8/2009 9:22:18 AM]
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Submitted By: wackadoodle
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Quote# 58417

I have wondered why he hasn't taken the time to get that new dog for the kidos. Could it have something to do with Muslims not liking dogs as pets?

christschild, RR 30 Comments [2/8/2009 9:19:41 AM]
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Quote# 57857

I too once fell of the way of my homosexual urges. I will pray for you tonight. I went to one of the "de-gaying" camps. They teach you very useful techniques, like one i learned is when you have a sinful urge take a carrot and stick it down your throat until you gag/vomit. its supposed to teach you thats NOT what youre supposed to do as well as purge the demons from within you.

golden_feelings, Livejournal 48 Comments [2/8/2009 9:16:52 AM]
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Quote# 58156

(in response to "will gay marriage destroy the heterosexual marriages")

Don't play simple, David. It isn't just heterosexual marriage that is under threat from homosexual marriage. You know as well as I do and as well as we all do that same gender marriage will bring about the destruction of life as we know it! I know that the subject keeps me awake at night as it should keep awake every concerned citizen of planet earth. We have to fight tooth and nail to prevent a catastrophe of the magnitude of 'gay' marriage from ever occurring on a world-wide scale. I kid you not ...such a travesty of 'marriage' will surely result in Armageddon! This will be the final battle at the end of the world between the forces of good (traditional heterosexual marriage) and bad (homosexual marriage).

For heaven's sakes, read your Bible, man!

KCKID, Christian Forums 27 Comments [2/8/2009 8:55:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Disbelief
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Quote# 57928

Intolerance and discrimination are the primary goals of the evo-atheists. It’s why they want to insist we are no better than pond scum; that way they can kick the *weak* down without mercy.
Intolerance and discrimination are always wrong. That’s why the evo-atheists should never be allowed to spread there garbage without a fight. In the End, God will separate the wheat from the chaff. Then the evo-atheists will know the true error they have made.

ToGodBeTheGlory, Free Republic 23 Comments [2/8/2009 8:42:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivy Mike
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Quote# 57937

These evo-atheists come to a conservative site like FR and try to spread their Satanic hate-filled garbage. They aren’t fooling anybody, least of all God, who will have the last Word. God’s retribution against sinners is one of the things that keep me from losing it.

ToGodBeTheGlory, Free Republic 21 Comments [2/8/2009 8:28:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivy Mike
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Quote# 57699

(Do athiest(sic) really believe they are advanced monkeys?)

Yes but amazingly there are still monkeys....

a few people stated science: Science hasn't proven anything, it simply amazes me how people confuse "theories" with proof. Anyone can have a theory but proving that theory is something completely different......

GO STEELERS!, Yahoo Answers 32 Comments [2/8/2009 7:17:49 AM]
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Submitted By: TheOutsider
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Quote# 58033

Attenborough 'received hate mail'

Veteran broadcaster Sir David Attenborough says he has received hate mail from viewers for not crediting God in his nature programmes.

"They tell me to burn in hell and good riddance," he said in an interview with the Radio Times.

Sir David has been making documentaries on the natural world and conservation for over half a century.

He also criticised the teaching of creationism alongside evolutionary science in schools.

In the interview, Sir David said that people asked why his documentaries did not give "credit" to God for the creation of life.

"They always mean beautiful things like hummingbirds."

"I always reply by saying that I think of a little child in East Africa with a worm burrowing through his eyeball."

"The worm cannot live in any other way, except by burrowing through eyeballs."

"I find that hard to reconcile with the notion of a divine and benevolent creator."

British fundies, BBC News 32 Comments [2/8/2009 7:08:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Seigi no Mikata
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Quote# 58322

I look forward to the day when evolutionists are expelled from academic and research institutions or sent to jail.

Max Factor, RichardDawkins.net 36 Comments [2/8/2009 7:00:49 AM]
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Quote# 57970

[Read: www.expelledexposed.com for the FACTS.. You obviously are not aware of them.]


not only aware ...I *KNOW* some of the professors that are in the middle of this calamity...

that 'atheist science' runs to attempt to explain what is plain and obvious to all...by virtue of a DEAD RELIGION (Darwin's Evolution) is no surprise at all...it attempts to give you KOOL AID drinking folks that TRUST evolution as your worldview more confidence...I know how it works...

you guys are pathetic...and your dishonest 'theory' has more holes than swiss cheese...and getting worse by the new technologies that look closer and demonstrtae more clearly a DESIGNED universe...a designed 'cell' etc...

Quit whining...*IF* Darwin's evolution ISN'T TRUE then why do you want to still believe in something that is bunk?

Because you are AFRAID of what that means

Echoes, Harmony Central 17 Comments [2/8/2009 6:57:48 AM]
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Quote# 57979

Hmmm- that’s funny, because it has been the TRUE CHristians that have been murdered by the 100’s of millions- 20 million in the last century alone- Christians are murdered in cold blood every single day in droves all over hte world, simpyl because they beleive what they do- Yes- TRUE Christians are the evil while secularists who murder them are the ‘innocents’ who apparently are oppressed by said TRUE CHristians

As a side note- The crusades, which were run by SECULARISTS falsely portrayign htemselves as God’s people- which they CLEARLY were NOT- only killed 10,000 people during hteir whole State mandated ‘campaign’ (which interestingly was sanctioned by who? Yup secularists who wanted the gold of the natives). But we hear how ‘religon is the worst offender for murder’

I wonder if the many millions of TRUE Christians who were roasted on spits in open arenas while secularists looked on and cheered, who were boiled alive, set on fire- thrown to lions/bears/elephants etc to be trampled and torn apart for sport woudl agree?

CottShop, Free Republic 30 Comments [2/8/2009 6:54:38 AM]
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Quote# 58233

Whatever your opinion on the morality of homosexuality, If you take an honest look at history you will find that widespread acceptance of homosexuality has occurred with a general loosening of sexual mores. And this change has occurred at the beginning of the end of a civilization. Obviously homosexual behavior has always occurred. But how society views it is important.

You may want to celebrate homosexuality, but realize it is a bellwether for the end of our civilization.

ammundsen, http://digg.com 15 Comments [2/8/2009 6:45:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Illuminatalie
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Quote# 57962

*Abortion increases breast cancer risks?*

You reap what you sow!!
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I had heard of this several years ago and am amazed that the pro-abortion groups ignore this important information. It should come under the "Informed Consent" form that is signed by the patient before undergoing the abortion. There is a whole list of possible complications on an Informed Consent for Surgery form, and each that apply to a particular procedure being done. Maybe that's why we're seeing breast cancer show up in younger women. Back in the middle 60's to late 80's, you just didn't see young women with breast cancer. Same thing with cervical cancer, but we now know that HPV is responsible for a lot of these cases. God knew about all these STDs, etc when He told us to avoid fornication.

Sari and AnnOdom44, RR 26 Comments [2/8/2009 6:40:56 AM]
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Quote# 57891

RogerFGAY - 'Can Al Gore be sued? for his misrepresentations in "An Inconvinient Truth." I know Oprah got away with damaging the meat packing industry, but in Al Gore's case, the damage is intentional.

So can we get a group together and successfully sue Al Gore for conning the public? What's your theory?'

buckeyepete - 'Why don't we just hang the bastard now, and THEN worry about the legalities of a trial?'

RogerFGAY & buckeyepete, FreeConservatives 15 Comments [2/8/2009 6:36:32 AM]
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Quote# 58171

I've heard it said by several historians, that a populations greatest threat to their survival comes from its own government. Everything from Rome useing petty criminals for arena events to Vlaad the Impailer, Pole Pot, Hitler ect.

Now Obama wants to kill the unborn and the elderly within his own country. Such a hatered of his own citizens. Such a horror. This man is no friend of the living.

Cognac, Rapture Ready 32 Comments [2/8/2009 6:25:55 AM]
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Quote# 58270

ERVs are good information gone bad. It is a contamination that contaminates according to susceptibility. There are no transitional fossils for any of the millions of species, there is no observed evolution. The flu is just trying to survive and it will never change into a cat. The flu is not even a life form. It is just bad information replicating itself.

seekmosttoprophesy, YouTube 24 Comments [2/8/2009 6:21:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Orlor
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