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Quote# 85150

These verses [1 Corinthians 7] show clearly that there is an obligation to have sex, never a right to not have sex. This is where the old term, the “marriage debt” comes from. It is a debt owed by both parties to the other. And withholding of sex is defrauding the partner. This is not regarded by the Church traditionally as a small matter, or unimportant. Rather if a wife defrauds her husband by not submitting and giving him sex when he desires it, she has committed a mortal sin.

For those not familiar with the term, a mortal sin is a grave offense not only against the marriage partner, but against God Himself. And, without confessing the sin, doing penance, and agreeing that it will not happen again, the woman will lose her soul and be consigned to hell.

So, we see how serious the sex obligation is for both husband and wife. These are debts and obligations agreed to and taken upon each other by the vows of marriage. The idea of marital rape is asinine and ridiculous. It only shows how far we have gotten from a real conception of marriage.

The woman has not power over her body, but her husband. Where is the wiggle room for marital rape here? There is none whatsoever. The very development of this anti-Christian concept shows that we must remove the State from marriage and restore true marriage with its vows and obligations – otherwise there is no marriage at all, only a farce masquerading under the false name of “marriage” to deceive men into its clutches.

Peter, The Spearhead 94 Comments [12/10/2011 6:13:30 AM]
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Quote# 85149

Taking a belt to his daughter’s rear isn’t criminal, it isn’t anti-biblical, and it shouldn’t be condemned. If the wife stepped out of line he should be free to have her bend over and take a few whacks on the ass as well. A lot of times women get out of line and even the so-called “adult” women are often just children in adult bodies, they sometimes need discipline. For the most part they seem to crave it, they act in a fashion that they know SHOULD provoke a physical response from a healthy/sane male and then when that response doesn’t occur they get upset and begin pushing more and more to see what they can get away with.

If your wife spends more money than you told her she was allowed to spend, she is basically testing you, she is begging you to get tough with her, lay down the law, and be a man. Women won’t, don’t, and probably cannot respect a pushover man, they want a take charge man. Steinem once remarked, “we are becoming the men we wanted to marry” maybe so, but men are becoming the women of old and that doesn’t appeal to women, modern women or women at any other time. If your wife steps out of line and spends more than you told her she could spend, you have her bend over the table and take her belting/paddling like a big girl. Maybe for a lot of women it wouldn’t even be a negative thing.

What does modern society expect us to do, roll over and apologize that the woman was acting unruly and out of line? I say you paddle her ass and see where things go from there (more likely than not she’ll beg you to mount her right then and there).

Bryan, The Spearhead 101 Comments [12/10/2011 6:13:01 AM]
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Quote# 85142

In reality, the proof of God's existence is so abundant and obvious as to be undeniable by any rational person. The world in which we live clearly would not exist except for an omnipotent God.

The only reason why atheists believe that God does not exist is that they want to believe that. Their belief is not based on evidence that God does not exist, nor is it based on a lack of evidence that He does exist; their belief has no basis. It has only motivation. The atheist has psychological motivations for believing that God does not exist.

All of the reasons that atheists claim to have for their atheism are really just rationalizations. They had a desire to believe that God does not exist; when they finally found arguments that could allow them to deceive themselves into believing that he does not exist, they did so. The people became atheists after engaging in self-deception.

All of their arguments are really self-delusion.

Atheism is very common among homosexual men; this single fact proves that psychology, not evidence, is the cause of atheism. One can not rationally argue that homosexual men have more evidence that God does not exist. Thus, atheism must be the result of psychological motivation.

Of course, in addition to homosexuality, paranoia and fear of authority result in atheism.

God's existence is manifest and evident. The proof of God's existence is far too plentiful to be denied by any normal person. Therefore, only an individual who has an abnormal psychology can possibly be an atheist.

These are all established facts about psychology. No rational person ever disputes them.

The Beast of Revelation, Amazon.com forums 70 Comments [12/10/2011 6:08:37 AM]
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Quote# 85130

The power to debate, convince, communicate, cajole, move others, influence friends and enemies...is a powerful thing. Note your current president, who sits in that chair today due far more to his ability to do those things, than his ability to lead effectively. You might even think of Hitler in this same regard, who at least and in addition, could lead.

Atheists have no God, no ears to hear, no eyes to see, no heart to touch, no normally functioning intellect, in fact, are obviously flawed abberations, mutants, actual true zombies, and should be seen as objects of abject pity, rather than targets of debate. They are living nothings...but could be seen as walking opportunities on which to practice your skills of rhetoric, debate and command of the language.

On the other hand, heretics, sectists and cultists, catholics and baptists and other religious types obviously have at least a tacit or latent acknowledgement of a god of some sort, and are generally much more accepting of correction, rebuke, direction, exhortation and a good dose of truth, at least, ever now and again.

I have no need of practice, and thus, have no truck with atheists. But with religious folks, there is at least the possibility of profitable debate, discussion, even argument[.]

Parson Julabee Jones, Survivalist Boards 84 Comments [12/9/2011 4:36:07 AM]
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Quote# 85121

Johnny Depp's Christmas song has landed him in a whole heap of trouble with a number of religious groups, it has been reported.

The 'Rum Diary' star has teamed up with Babybird to record 'Jesus Stag Night Club' - a song about about a drunken, joy-riding Jesus look-alike who gets his kicks at lap-dancing clubs - and had hoped that it could rival The X-Factor for a Christmas number one.

Lee Douglas, spokesman for the religious pressure group The Christian Coalition, told the Daily Star: "I'm sure he thinks he's being very funny but he's simply a disgrace.

"One day, Johnny Depp and his cronies will face the judgment of our Lord and they will burn in hell for this filth."

A spokesman of the Focus on the Family campaign group said the song was "appalling", adding: "We are sickened by Mr Depp's behaviour. Why did he need to record this song?

"It is a slap in the face to Christians all over the world."

Lee Douglas, Focus on the Family 90 Comments [12/8/2011 4:00:56 AM]
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Submitted By: JB Mason
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Quote# 85111

[on the origin of different races]

Obviously Adam and Eve held the genetic information for the different variations that eventually resulted in offspring. Adam and Eve were probably Asian as that is the medium between black and white. Grey can give you both black and white but you can't get black from just white.

Jonz, Y! answers 77 Comments [12/8/2011 3:54:48 AM]
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Quote# 85108

    Though we will forbid the teaching of homosexuality and the public acceptance of it, we will be fair to the homosexuals.  This is our way.  As we constantly say, if they keep it home, if they keep it private, it does very little harm.  It's only when they start declaring "I'm gay, I'm proud, accept me as I am!" that they become the enemy.  Because they can never be accepted as they are.  If they keep it quiet it will be tolerated.  If they go public we will Fight them. However, we also want to be fair.  Those that understand that what they do is unacceptable but can't keep from doing it will be protected.  We will never allow abuse.  That is something the world had better understand.  Because we get very, very nasty to abusers of any kind!   

Gerald Polley, Voices From the Spirit 75 Comments [12/7/2011 4:14:46 AM]
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Quote# 85086

In the sedate and sober world of bankruptcy law, one lawyer's memorandum sticks out like a sore loser.

"Across the country the court systems and particularly the Bankruptcy Court in Minnesota, are composed of a bunch of ignoramus, bigoted Catholic beasts that carry the sword of the church," the Nov. 25 filing said.

It went on to call one bankruptcy judge "a Catholic Knight Witch Hunter," said one trustee was "a priest's boy" and claimed another trustee is a "Jesuitess."

It got worse from there.

Hastings lawyer Rebekah Nett also called U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Nancy Dreher and other court personnel "dirty Catholics." Then she expressed concerns over what might transpire at a hearing docketed for next week, writing, "Catholic deeds throughout the history have been bloody and murderous."

People who spend their time writing and reading legal documents were stunned.

"I've never seen anything in 30 years of practicing law like this," said Brian Leonard, a bankruptcy trustee. "This is so far over the line, it's in another world."

Nett got her law degree from the University of Minnesota in 1999 and is licensed to practice in Minnesota and Wisconsin. There is no record of any disciplinary action against her in either state.

Nett said she didn't want to talk about the memo, but did allow that Dreher "yelled at" her about it Tuesday. She wouldn't elaborate, and Dreher's office declined to comment.

Rebekah Nett, Twincities.com 48 Comments [12/6/2011 4:14:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Stormwarden
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Quote# 85076

Don't wear pants in the presence of the Pope

We defend that women should not wear pants. We sustain that women dressing as men is against Natural Law and Catholic Morals.

But if it were acceptable for women to commonly wear trousers, it would never be the case to do so in the presence of the Pope. The impropriety increases when the lady is the Chancellor of Germany and is receiving the Sovereign Pontiff, himself a German, on an official visit to the country.

However, this is what Chancellor Angela Merkel chose to do.

An educated woman like Merkel could not be unaware that there is a rigorous protocol on how ladies should dress before the Pope. So, one is led to wonder whether she - who is Protestant and the daughter of a Lutheran pastor - chose this apparel on purpose to scorn the Catholic Church and the Pope. In any circumstance, even if she did not do it to scorn the Pope, this is certainly an example not to be followed.

Don't wear pants, but especially if you will be before the Pope.

Elaine M Jordan, Tradition In Action 111 Comments [12/5/2011 3:40:15 AM]
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Quote# 85074

The book of Revelation confirms we are headed toward a radical persecution of believers, as the kingdom of antichrist will kill innumerable amounts of people who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Already, Christians are considered by many to be less than human and as the cause of the world’s woes. It is very likely that as it was in the days of Rome, where Christians were sacrificed as objects of entertainment in spectator sports, that modern day alternative sports, like the WWF, are warming up an aggressive hostility that will ultimately culminate in televised Christian persecutions. Network executives will do anything for high ratings, and to a depraved people devoid of the Spirit of God, pay-per-view death games would quickly catch on.

Jason Kovar, Good Fight Ministries 99 Comments [12/5/2011 3:38:11 AM]
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Quote# 85061

[Page 3 of the Link]
“We see a lot of heterosexual men who are addicted to sex and, because culturally and biologically women aren’t as readily available to have sex at all times of the day, these men will turn to gay men for gratifi­cation.... Imagine what that does to their psychology. ‘Now am I gay? What do I tell my wife?’ ”

Craig Gross, Newsweek 86 Comments [12/4/2011 1:13:05 PM]
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Quote# 84996

This is God's Signature on His Special Creation He made in His Own Image. God knew this day would come where man's intelligence would allow him to view the building blocks that make him the way he is, but also knew that man would deny this obvious imprint He made to indicate His Signature on Mankind themselvves.

Man's DNA has a right hand twist while plant/animal is a left hand twist, had this been discovered 50 to 100 years ago it would have made front page news
and said something like:

Scientists Discover God's Signature As Proof Positive Man Is In Fact Created By God Himself.

Whereas these days they are so vain the majority of them in their own minds that something so obvious completely eludes their reasoning abilities.

Waiting1, Rapture Ready 45 Comments [12/4/2011 1:10:40 PM]
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Quote# 85065

Museums devoted to displaying the Darwin story have carefully, and deliberately painted a false picture of the fossil record. I wonder how many people are aware of the deceptions involved in this supposedly educational enterprise.

Quotes and comments;

1. "Paleontologists have found 432 mammal species in the dinosaur layers….But where are these fossils? We visited 60 museums but did not see a single complete mammal skeleton from the dinosaur layers displayed at any of these museums.'' [1.]

- Here is plain proof that evolutionists are deliberately falsifying the fossil record so as to create a delusory myth in the minds of the public. How can anyone trust the people who do this kind of thing? Why would anyone expect people like this to be honest when talking about the origins debate? They clearly have no interest in the truth, but care only about propagating a myth.

- Here is clear evidence that refutes the great Darwinian myth, as these collections just should not happen according to textbook theory. Anyone who accepts cosmic evolution in the light of these findings does so despite the evidence not because of the evidence.

Many (most?) natural history museums have more to do with the muses than with science, and are shrines to materialism and cosmic evolution.

2. 'Werner also learned that dinosaur-containing rock layers have "fossilized examples from every major invertebrate animal phylum living today," and that dinosaurs were mixed in with varieties of fish, amphibians, "parrots, owls, penguins, ducks, loons, albatross, cormorants, sandpipers, avocets, etc." [1.]

- The Darwinian myth has been carefully manufactured, and bears little relationship to reality. The museums are temples devoted to cosmic evolution, as the scenarios they paint (and present) are fictional... and are very little different than Disneyland. One day they'll be seen as the amusement parks they really are.

This is a prime example of what's known as the engineering (or manufacturing) of consent. The success of Darwinism is almost entirely due to the false (iconic) pictures and images evolutionists have invented and painted for the public mind. Without the (false) images the words would mean nothing.

3. “Few are aware of the great number of mammal species found with dinosaurs. Paleontologists have found 432 mammal species in the dinosaur layers; almost as many as the number of dinosaur species. These include nearly 100 complete mammal skeletons." [4.]

- Fossils are the sacred relics of Evolution, the sacred stones of naturalist religion, and the natural history museum is the modern Pantheon, where the inner sanctum always seems to feature that lumbering saint of Darwinism, the dinosaur.

These Darwinian displays are a good example of the Potemkin village, as they're utterly fake and bear little resemblance to reality. The fact you display a bone is meaningless in itself, as it's the context that makes all the difference. In most cases it's not the bones that are displayed that is important, it's the bones that are not displayed which is crucial. These displays could be compared to the sets Hollywood used to make and use, and they have as little educational value.

Summary;
Museum directors see themselves as guardians of cosmic evolution and as members of an elite who is going to cure the common folk of their delusions, since they're too incompetent to do it on their own. (Curators of museums now see themselves as curators of the soul.)

- M. Johnson

M. Johnson , Thinking About Creation 42 Comments [12/4/2011 1:07:39 PM]
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Quote# 85050

Atheist: do you not give birth after your own kind?

Long before satan fed you evolution God said: "Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to it's kind" (Genesis 1:24)

Dogs do not give birth to roaches.
man do not give birth to monkeys.
shameless liars are we not reproducing after our own kind.

Andy 11-11, AnswerBag 79 Comments [12/3/2011 4:49:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Wenyandawik
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Quote# 85043

I think I can now conclude the evidence for my proof of premise II with the following summary:

Denying God denies the masculine, monotheistic, patriarchal tradition of absolute, unchanging law beyond man’s or woman’s or natures control;

In its place is only intuitive ‘spirit’ to come to know the laws/rules of social organization, an intuition that is ephemeral at best and in constant flux/change according to human frailties;

Intuitive spirit knowledge is the essence of goddess/matriarchal social organization in man’s pre-history;

Goddess/matriarchal social organization was effectively might-is-right – females choosing violent and psychotic alpha males and their buddies to impose their will on the tribe and keep everyone else in submission to supporting their offspring;

Goddess/matriarchal social organization led only to primitive pagan societies whose material progress and well being was at the level of a cave man for thousands, tens of thousands, millions of years going back to creation itself;

Therefore, to deny an absolute, other-worldly, masculine God as atheism does and replace it with feminine ‘spirit’ worship (or worse, nothing at all) is to retrogress man back to the social organization of the cave…which was absolute oppression and tyranny of the alpha class, both male and female, on the entire human tribe.

Maximus, In Mala Fide 57 Comments [12/3/2011 4:45:53 AM]
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Quote# 85041

When a woman walks down a crowded sidewalk in revealing clothing, she is forcing herself on every man nearby.

The woman fully understands the powerful biological drives of men. She knows they cannot ignore her, not even if they want to.

She has chosen to advertise herself to everyone passing by, but she is looking only for a few men. The wealthiest, the most famous, the most powerful men she can attract. Yet her display is bound to be noticed by hundreds of men in whom she has no conceivable romantic interest.

For her, advertising to the whole world is a no-brainer: you never know who might be watching. It’s perfectly well in her interests to flaunt herself. But what serves her needs is not necessarily good for others.

There’s an old elementary school custom…when you bring something tasty to class, it’s understood that you should put it away unless you intend to share it with others. [...]

Somehow, they are unable to understand that women exposing themselves without intent to reciprocate the attention they attract is impolite and inconsiderate – an act of aggression in which they use the power of their sex as a weapon. They publicly and proudly demonstrate callous disregard towards others without the faintest understanding that common courtesy is a two-way street…

Giovanni Dannato, In Mala Fide 90 Comments [12/3/2011 4:45:27 AM]
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Quote# 84847

Yes-—now that the marxist in chief is transforming the military into a Marxist unit that denies gender differences and pretends lack of women’s “physical strength” has no effect on a unit or a combat mission —you can reduce all the “strength” requirerments.

Also pushing sodomy—so you have units which can now have perverted sex. It would be like mixing women into the bunks with men—except this is worse. Good guys who get “fondled” during their sleep will be kicked out for their Christian ethics—they’ll be kicked out for beating the homosexual up—and removed for their “homophobia”. Christians will be forced out and muslims who practice homosexual acts will be the preferred group....they will target them and homosexuals for recruitment.

It will look like the homosexual Brownshirts. Can’t have moral military without Christian/Judeo ethics.

Michelle [Obama] is so happy about open dykes and her homosexual husband is also excited.

savagesusie, Free Republic 92 Comments [12/2/2011 5:54:33 AM]
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Quote# 85035

Evolution is an organized belief system that encourages humans to deny their most important responsibility as part of the created.

Modern biology, creationists contend, has become corrupted by the notion that either strict evolution or alien implantation is acceptable, but that our origin by the direct hand of God is (shudder, shudder) simply unthinkable. Many evolutionists get visibly angry (angry? … excuse me? What happened to that dispassionate science stuff and all…?) if one questions their atheistic beliefs. They call creationists "inherently unscientific" as one means of avoiding discussion and thus side-tracking creation theory. But we do actually have 3 theories today for the origin of life on Earth: evolution on Earth; or alien implantation - after evolution elsewhere in the universe; or thirdly, miraculous creation (either recent or ancient) based on pretty darned good scientific evidence and logic. (Please read a few of our articles.)



Paul Abramson, www.creationism.org 70 Comments [12/2/2011 4:09:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Karana
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Quote# 85028

Some of u seem to have the idea that a world where everyone ignores the reality of hell will make this world a more better and productive place. While their have been some coincidences involving places with high levels of atheism being less violent, this does not leave out the fact that some places with atheism still have evolved to living immoral guilt free lives. Such as here in America, a good example of what atheism and ignoring hell has led 2 an extreme high rate of male homosexuality. Guys are doing this shit like its cool. Our society seems to have come to where people can live any lifestyle they won't as long as it makes them happy.

I'm not saying that it should be illegal 2 be gay. I'm just saying society needs to take responsibility 2 spiritually train our young boys that having a sexual relationship with a man is wrong. Now I know 100% that if my future baby is a boy, he's gonna like girls. I just feel that I have to take the extra effort 2 spiritually enlighten him about the evils of being sexually involved with another boy. Its already bad enough that I have a gay male cousin. I will have to take the extra effort with raising my son about homosexuality being wrong, because I know that me and his momma are going 2 train him right, I'm just gonna be worried that his mind may get poisoned when he his hanging out away from the house.


So u see my friends, there is proof that atheism and ignoring hell does not mean society will be better because u see what the evils of homosexuality has done so far.

Guest_Yakuza_*, ExChristian.net 64 Comments [12/2/2011 4:05:42 AM]
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Quote# 85022

I was running very low on gas this afternoon, trying to make it to Ingles so I could get a gas card to fill up when I got groceries (3 cents off per gallon if you use a gift/gas card), and I was nervously watching my digital readout tick down the "miles to E" (I love that feature on my car). I was coming through the middle of town when that last number ticked down to "0 miles to E." Needless to say, I was praying for just enough gas to get me to Ingles and to get me to the gas pumps. I pulled into the parking lot, pulled into a space, went in, got my groceries and gas card, the car started up fine, I pulled across the lot to the gas pumps, and stopped at the pump, no problem. God got me to the pump!!

Musician in His house, Rapture Ready 118 Comments [12/1/2011 4:44:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Mel
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Quote# 85020

I am sickened by the Republican field. With few exceptions they not only lack the experience to be president, but also common sense. Not that Barack Hussein Obama, the mullah in chief, is the answer. He and his socialist, radical, Muslim-loving comrades need to take a hike to Egypt where they can join the Muslim Brotherhood and rule over a country more suited to their hearts' desires. But the reality is that Obama's re-election seems increasingly likely with each passing day, if not Republican presidential debate. These debates have exposed just how bereft of talent the Republican presidential field is. And, it's a remarkable and sad day when the words of Newt Gingrich — a scandal ridden leftover from days past — make more sense than the rest.

If we really want to protect our borders and enhance our national security, we should start with not only with policing our border with force — and if necessary using the military against the Mexican government — but also banning all immigration from countries on the terrorist watch list.

The major threat to this country is not from south of the border, Mexican drug gangs notwithstanding, but from Muslim immigrants here in the United States who sympathize with their terrorist brethren in the Middle East and are prone to collaborate with them. We must finally face this reality.

For many years since Sept. 11, I have struggled with politically correct notion that Islam is a legitimate religion. And, in these years I have come to conclude that it is not; rather it is a worldwide evil political movement bent on revolution at the expense of Christians, Jews and many of its own people who do not believe in killing all infidels. There are good Muslims, but most of them have shunned the "religion" and no longer practice it.

Larry Klayman, Renew America 69 Comments [12/1/2011 4:42:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog
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Quote# 85016

Pattiann, you are so correct, the men need to realize their new place in the grand scheme of things and that is assuming the traditional feminine role, and because of that fact they must learn to be more feminine in every thing they do. And it falls on us as women and mothers to teach our boys at a very early age to be femiine and to be submissive to females at all times. We need to stress on both the boys and the girls that females are superior and dominant and males are inferior. If this was done, the world would be a better place and both males and females would be much happier.

Whitte, Mister Poll 66 Comments [12/1/2011 4:37:49 AM]
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