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Quote# 80627

[Concerning the OP's lesbian sister]

I want to warn you that I have a tendency to be bossy, and that doesn't combine well with written words when you can't hear the tone. So if you can hear me talking in the kindest and gentlest way, that is the way I mean them.

... If your sister brole with her girlfriend and lived the rest of her life in perfect chastity and service to others, she would not be reconciled to God. The problem is not with this one thing that she is doing, but with WHO she is. WHO she is is a child of wrath. It is not because of her girlfriend. She has a girlfriend as one of the many outworkings of the innate wickedness in her heart. Her heart is overflowing with evil, malice, and contempt. Moment by moment she exercises her hatred and rebellion against God in everything she thinks, says, and does, and everything she fails to think, say, and do. When she makes her breakfast in the morning it is out of hatred and contempt for the God who graciously provides her with it. Her soul is not doomed under the full measure of the wrath of God because she's shacking up with a girl, but because she hates God in her innermost desires. She is God's enemy.

And for her neighbor it is even worse. Everyday she thinks, says, does things out of hatred and contempt for her neighbors, whether through, gossip, slander, reviling, envy, anger, lust, or pride. She also shows her hatred everday by failing to love others in the things that she fails or forgets to think, say, and do. These things make her and ALL of us utterly guilty before God, and justly deserving of the full measure of the cup of God's wrath.

For unbelievers hellfire and damnation are coming swiftly on the wings of death because we've all earned it. None of us are seeking God. None of us are just a little bit good.

Beon, CARM 101 Comments [4/14/2011 3:41:17 AM]
Fundie Index: 179
Submitted By: Meridian the Imaginary

Quote# 80605

Remember, there was once a single mother who, instead of having an abortion of her half-black infant, went ahead and gave birth. He struggled but eventually grew up to become President of the United States.

If this isn't a case that shows the utter lunacy of O-boy-ama, who insisted PP receive funding in this budget stalemate, I don't know what is. He survived the abortionist's scalpel, yet he condemns possibly millions more to that fate, and many of those innocents will be black.

There must be a special place in hell for someone like him, Sanger and all the eugenicists.

Son of Taz, Moonbattery 75 Comments [4/13/2011 2:31:10 AM]
Fundie Index: 108

Quote# 80604

This was right at the front end of the AIDS epidemic and pastors who care were reading everything they could find out because I happened to have believed - and haven't changed by mind - that it was a judgment as a result of an immoral act.

It was interesting, in those days it was still largely called GRIDS: Gay Related Immune Deficiency Syndrome. And to this very day, the overwhelming majority of those who are transmitting that disease are still homosexuals. It is a homosexual disease.

Rick Scarborough, Right Wing Watch 57 Comments [4/13/2011 2:30:47 AM]
Fundie Index: 78

Quote# 80598

Yeah, but God created the USS Enterprise before StarFleet did. And God told Noah how to build an Ark. Noah didn't
know squat. And everthing in between. We've just copied what God already knew, and have done it forever. Well it seems like forever.
That's why he's God and we're not.

Itsmellslikefish, My Take:Jesus would believe in evolution 66 Comments [4/13/2011 2:00:30 AM]
Fundie Index: 73

Quote# 80594

[Vince is a follower of Harold Camping, who preaches that the world will end on May 21st. Or possibly five months later.]

So who's with me? I need a discussion about where I can bequeath all of my worldly possessions for the time after 5-21-11. I already told my bank that they can start to prepare to foreclose on my house on 5-22-11. Because even if I'm not raptured (though I really do think I'll be included with the other true believers), I'm sure the bank managers and especially the mortgage department personel won't be. And if I'm not raptured I intend to live out the next 5 months squatting in the homes of those that were raptured.

But that still leaves me with almost $160,000 to use up or give away.

Any suggestions?

Vince, Facebook 94 Comments [4/13/2011 1:59:56 AM]
Fundie Index: 75

Quote# 80582

Satan wants you to know that you are a good person. You have never killed anyone, so you will still go to Heaven. You worship A god. Oh and by the way dont worry, there is no such thing as Hell. And Even if there was- a loving, gracious, and merciful God would never send you there anyway, and even if he did, its not permanent.

God wants you to know that you are not a good person. Being angry at someone is just the same as killing them. There is only one true God, and only one way to get to Heaven. Yes there is a such thing as Hell. No, it wasnt created for you, but in your unbelief in the one person that can save you, he will send you there. And yes it is permanent.

cheymat, Rapture Ready 142 Comments [4/12/2011 3:29:47 AM]
Fundie Index: 124

Quote# 80576

You'd think a talking book would be harmless
My husband loves to "read" talking books from the state library for the blind.

They send him a catalog every couple of months; and he selects the titles he wants. They let him have a couple at a time.

He just came out of his room, outraged. Apparently two of the best selling selections involve a woman having an affair with a man, and later, his son... another a widower who has an affair with a man.

End Times indeed.

Acts5:41 , RR 80 Comments [4/12/2011 3:16:08 AM]
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Submitted By: lisa

Quote# 80540

"I feel"

As opposed to "I rationally and objectively think"

Ever since I read about this "I feel" thing I've noticed many many girls say it. And I have never once herd a man say it, ever.

Men don't feel. We analyze data and observe then come to a logical conclusion. Women make statements backed up by nothing and men are expected to shut up and deal with it, or give them an intellectual pass because deep down we know they have the minds of children.

AC101202, Men Going Their Own Way 121 Comments [4/11/2011 11:53:25 AM]
Fundie Index: 134
Submitted By: Balthazar The Wise

Quote# 80564

[Excerpts from the article; click the link to read the rest]

Are You a Pro-Gay Bigot?


2. Do you participate in name-calling of those who object to homosexuality -- names like bigot, hate-monger, etc.?

3. Do you believe ‘gays’ have been deprived of the right to marry? Doesn’t pretty much everyone have the right to marry now -- to a person of the opposite sex?


5. Do you believe some people will just inevitably be homosexual, and that there’s a set percentage of the population that will always be ‘gay’, and that this won’t increase, even if a culture embraces ‘gay’ sex? Do you think homosexual experimentation could never become ‘chic’ and popular? Is there no risk for the people involved or our culture if this happens?


9. Do you believe that homosexuals are born that way? Do you refuse to consider the evidence against this claim? Have you ever looked at the connection between child sexual abuse and later homosexual attraction?


11. Are you quick to say “Judge not, lest you be judged” ( Matthew 7:1) and similar passages, without understanding the Christian theology behind it, and all the while being very judgmental yourself?


16. Do you believe it’s okay for thirteen- year- olds to learn at school that they have the right to have homosexual sex with each other? Do you close your ears when concerned parents are outraged? Would you call such parents “ignorant” and accuse them of “censorship”?

17. Do you believe that, after several thousand years where most cultures have prohibited homosexuality, only now the ‘real’ truth is emerging? Do you believe this is not an arrogant, narrow or immature position?

Life and Liberty Ministries, Life and Liberty Ministries 115 Comments [4/11/2011 3:31:14 AM]
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Quote# 80561

According to Peterson, chair of the [Montana] House Judiciary Committee, there are at least two prosecutable offenses—felonies punishable by up to 10 years in prison and a $50,000 fine. One is the "recruitment" of non-gays. "Homosexuals can't go out into the heterosexual community and try to recruit people, or try to enlist them in homosexual acts," Peterson says. He provides an example: "'Here, young man, your hormones are raging. Let's go in this bedroom, and we'll engage in some homosexual acts. You'll find you like it.'"

Peterson hasn't actually seen this happen, he says, because "I don't associate with that group of people at all... I've associated with mainstream people all my life." The other offense, in Peterson's legal opinion, is the public display of homosexuality, since he believes the Supreme Court's decision only applies to private acts behind closed doors. Being gay in public, he says, is a wholly different matter: "In my mind, if they were engaging in acts in public that could be construed as homosexual, it would violate that statute. It has to be more than affection. It has to be overt homosexual acts of some kind or another... If kissing goes to that extent, yes. If it's more than that, yes."

Bill Peterson, Joe. My. God. 65 Comments [4/11/2011 3:27:11 AM]
Fundie Index: 94

Quote# 80519

"Tolerance is allowing for a mistake. Too much tolerance is a mistake. Tolerance is allowing for a mistake, too much tolerance is accepting an habitual mistake (Atheistic Lifestyle of sin).

PS The theme of the Bible is a God of both Love and Righteousness. Too many people that call themselves Christians will only discuss the Love of God. I consider those that will only discuss the concept of a God of Love to be Liberal Christians.

PS - It drives Atheists crazy when you show America was founded as a Christian Nation, even though America did lie to the Muslims in the Treaty of Tripoli."

clirus, ChristianForums 76 Comments [4/10/2011 5:52:18 AM]
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Submitted By: Skavau

The "Try, Try Again" Award

With at least 6 of these predictions already recorded on FSTDT, not one has been true yet.

Quote# 80554

(Manhattan to be hit by a dirty bomb in April 2011)

We now calculate that Manhattan in the US will be hit by fire from the heavens resulting from a bomb which produces a mushroom cloud rising from the sea on 2010VeAdar28-29=2011Nisan4-5 (2011April7-9)

Here are the first verses of 1 Kings 17 and 1 Kings 18...

1 And Elijah [Gordon], the Tishbite from the inhabitants of Gilead proceeded to say to Ahab: As Jehovah the God of Israel before whom I do stand is living, there will occur during these years neither dew [water baptism from the earth] nor rain [spirit baptism from the heavens], except at the order of my word! (1 Kings 17).

The account runs from 1 Kings 17:1 to 1 Kings 18:46. It is the story of who can bring fire to the bull and actually rain to the land. Is it the prophets of Baal with their wonderful fire then rain dance? or is it Elijah and his God? Therefore the drought must start on 2001Tishri30 (or 7 days later). This was the day that Paul Gillies, the UK Watchtower press officer wrote to the UK Guardian newspaper confirming that the Watchtower was unrepentant for their UN NGO idolatry.

The greater meaning of this contest is who can predict terrorism and who can water baptise, Elijah or the prophets of Baal? In fact the one who can predict terrorism, is the one who can water baptise. The one who can bring fire can bring rain. To the Phoenicians and the Philistines and idolaters in Israel, Baal was the God of fertility (human and agricultural) and therefore he could bring rain clouds which caused agricultural fertility. So this was a contest designed to show up Baal as a false God. The prophets of Baal are Christians who are more interested in congregation fertility than scriptural truth. They are the bean counters, the bureaucrats, the target setters, the pharisees of the church.

truebiblecode, True Bible Code 50 Comments [4/10/2011 5:49:57 AM]
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Quote# 80533

Of all of mankind's greatest assets, we know of only three things that preceded marriage: Sex, Love, and fire... and we aren't 100% sure about fire.

Just think about this for a moment. Everything that makes mankind great: medicine, science, math, philosophy, psychology, finance, politics, religion, war, THE VERY CONCEPT OF FAMILY!!... EVERYTHING in all of human history, all of it was created after marriage. Marriage preceded the invention of the wheel, writing, the pyramids, the Trojan war, the great flood, Egypt, Greece, Rome, Stonehenge, the Aztec and Mayan pyramids. All of them came after marriage. The human presence all over the world came after our predecessors invented the marriage covenant. Really. There were no humans in America. There were no humans in Europe. No humans in Asia until marriage was created.

Marriage literally was the very first act of society. When man and woman began to vow to live together till death and care for their common young, society began. Nothing created by society preceded that. Nothing.

Marriage literally is the beginning of the greatness of mankind. It is perhaps our greatest invention because it created society itself.

And the definition of marriage, the definition that those early people created, has remained unchanged for tens of thousands of years. Perhaps longer. It has always been between a man and a woman.

Now we have to change it? You are asking us to change the very definition of mankind. Mankind is a social creature. Social life lies at the heart of mankind. Society began with marriage. If we change the definition of marriage, we change society itself. We change all of humanity. 97% of humanity has to change for 3% of the population.

That is what you are expecting.

THIS is why we are against same sex marriage.

Alex, DOMA Facebook 94 Comments [4/10/2011 5:46:09 AM]
Fundie Index: 84

The "We Have a Shovel" Award

We can dig deeper, wider, we can top the OP about the pyramids being built by dinosaurs.

Quote# 80525

The bible does not mention the Pyramids so they were built without God's permission. Satan has many powers and could have helped the Egyptians, it's not beyond possibility.

Remember what happened to those who first disturbed the tomb of Tutankhamen. The evil spirits were unleashed upon them.

There is greater mystery in the hidden world than in so called reality. Read the bible and perhaps clarity on the point can be interpreted.

Tools, CARM 85 Comments [4/9/2011 3:11:05 AM]
Fundie Index: 125
Submitted By: Meridian the Imaginary

Quote# 80517

[re: a church where members dress up as science fiction and fantasy characters]

"I don't have a problem with people enjoying sci-fi, but church isn't the place to encourage escapism and fancy dress," Mentone Baptist minister Murray Campbell said.

Murray Campbell, Herald Sun 71 Comments [4/9/2011 3:05:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar

Quote# 80515

If citizens are not allowed to discriminate in any way with regard to out-of-the-closet homosexuals, then there is no basis for denying those involved in sexual perversion the right to adopt and teach children, marry one another, be policemen or medics, serve in the armed forces, be elected officials and judges, work for you, and rent from you. It is because of the no-special-rights approach that we now have open homosexuals involved in many activities from which they should have been banned, and principled property owners and businessmen are required by law in many states to rent to and employ persons of low moral character engaged in immoral conduct which flies in the face of the deepest beliefs of the landlords and employers.

Pastor Ralph Ovadal, Life & Liberty Ministries 68 Comments [4/9/2011 3:05:12 AM]
Fundie Index: 84

Quote# 80507

["Biblical" scrolls discovered in remote Jordanian cave]

Yes...it is interesting. But if whatever they may find on them does not agree with the Scriptures we've already been given, they're false.

[Later in the same thread...]

Maybe I'll make this my new sig line: If it's new, it's not true. If it's true, it's not new.

JustGrateful, RR 80 Comments [4/8/2011 5:06:54 AM]
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Quote# 80498

Bluntly, Planned Parenthood lures your kids into sex outside of marriage without your knowledge or consent. And then, they get to kill your unborn grandchildren without notifying you.

Ken Blackwell, Big Peace 69 Comments [4/8/2011 5:03:56 AM]
Fundie Index: 115

Quote# 80496

Far too many women are fascists at heart. You can see this at work in almost every female-dominant organization and in the way that women's organizations constantly attempt to force change on everyone, men and women, who don't want it. Some people think the Founding Fathers had never even considered the thought of allowing women to vote, that it was just a historical oversight on the part of some unconsciously sexist men. I suspect that they knew perfectly well what they were doing, given the obvious connection between the female franchise and the West's continental drift into socialism.

There is a reason why a fascist demagogue like Benito Mussolini made suffragism the very first point in the Fascist Manifesto, after all.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 77 Comments [4/8/2011 5:02:34 AM]
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Quote# 80489

The endgame of secular utopianism is always the same. It ends in the gulag, the guillotine, and the gas chamber. But the key point to remember is that however it ends, it always ends, because the Gates of Hell cannot and will not prevail.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 68 Comments [4/7/2011 9:14:29 AM]
Fundie Index: 75

Quote# 80485

I often wonder if Islam itself is the Antichrist. This argument suggests that those that practice it are antichrists ? This implies that an Antichrist is the POTUS.
90% of Americans could agree with this thinking yet the usual lunatics like harry Reid would be out there calling us megaextreme extremists.

gcraig, Free Republic 59 Comments [4/7/2011 9:13:20 AM]
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Quote# 80479

Two plaintiffs in the high-profile Proposition 8 case were subjected to multiple vitriolic and antigay voice mails during the 2010 trial from a San Francisco man who was later convicted of making threatening telephone calls to then–House speaker Nancy Pelosi.

A former law enforcement agent who provided audio recordings of the voice mails to The Advocate said the phone number used by the caller matched one revealed in a federal grand jury subpoena involving the investigation of Gregory Lee Giusti, 49. Giusti made at least 48 calls in February and March of 2010 to Pelosi, including calls to her Washington, D.C., residence, one of her Northern California residences, her San Francisco district office, and her husband’s San Francisco office. Giusti used a Magic Jack device in an attempt to conceal the origin of the calls, according to a 2010 affidavit by FBI supervisory special agent Bryan S. Smith.

“You stinkin’ lesbos make me sick,” the caller, identified by multiple sources as Giusti, said in one voice mail to Stier and Perry. “I hope you lose your case. ... Marriage is between one man and one woman only. That’s the way God arranged it, set it up. Two people of the same sex cannot procreate. And no, getting yourself artificially inseminated is not procreation in God’s eyes. Or two faggots can’t procreate no matter how much you want to [expletive] each other.”

In another, Giusti told the couple, who have children, “I think that’s really disgusting that you’re raising, um, kids, I think the law should state lesbos and faggots shouldn’t be around kids. ...

“I hope you enjoy burning in hell, for that’s where you’re going to go when you die, for the Bible clearly states that lesbianism and homosexuality is an abomination in God’s eyes,” Giusti said. “And you can tell those other faggots doing the case with you that I hope they both die of AIDS.”

Gregory Lee Giusti, Advocate 56 Comments [4/7/2011 9:12:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Aspergus

Quote# 80426

Hi All,
I was thinking about this past few days - it seems plausible; could large dinosaurs have been employed to move the massive stones required to build the pyramids? Also, were the pyramids constructed before the flood? It would seem to me they were assuming the flood took place around 2350 B.C. -

This would also explain why violence filled the earth in those days. So the question; were the pyramids built before the flood and if so, were dinosaurs used to move the stones?


countitjoy5 , CARM --- The Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry 110 Comments [4/6/2011 4:35:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Alastair MacDonald

Quote# 80410

I almost wish that there would be, like, a simultaneous telecast, and all Americans would be forced–forced at gunpoint no less–to listen to every David Barton message, and I think our country would be better for it.

Mike Huckabee, Rediscover God in America conference 90 Comments [4/6/2011 4:35:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Damien

Quote# 80409

[In a thread about the earthquake in Japan]

I am baffled as to why we haven't had a bad earthquake on our west coast yet. We're certainly overdue in more ways than one. It would not surprise me if we're next, considiering our government's treatment of Israel, AND all the blatant in-your-face sin in our country.

kmendel, RR 64 Comments [4/6/2011 4:34:55 AM]
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Submitted By: dionysus
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