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Quote# 84053

You clearly do not understand that the Constitution as the social contract that it is. Muslims have NO INTENTION of ever respecting your property rights, infidel. To them, you are not a fellow citizen deserving respect for your rights, but are instead lower than dirt. They are USING your respect for the Constitution against you, and laughing up their sleeves at what they intend to do to civic respect for your unalienable rights once they wield power. They are not participants in that social contract and are therefore undeserving of its protections. Upon reading the Quran, Jefferson understood that, and considered Islam a mortal threat to this nation should it ever be established here.

Carry_Okie, Free Republic 59 Comments [9/30/2011 3:55:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog
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Quote# 84048

[Commenting on 'Heckler calls Obama Antichrist'.]

In all seriousness, it was at that point that I almost expected to see his head start spinning around spewing pea soup all over the stage and professing in a deep, guttural growl, "I AM HUSSEIN. I AM HUSSEIN." I wonder how many would have rushed the platform at that point to touch the hem of his garment? Most?

Homesick777, RR 64 Comments [9/30/2011 3:51:12 AM]
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Quote# 84036

(On the difference between secular BDSM and "Christian BDSM")

They are different since there is a specific spiritual component to their relationship. The Master and submissive/slave worship, pray and grow together as Christians. The Master is head of the wife. She submits to Him. Christ is the head of the church. Master and submissive are both in submission to Christ. A Christian submissive’s first responsibility is to God and His commandments. Unlike her secular sister, a Christian submissive should not participate in something against God’s teaching, even if ordered by her Dominant/Master.

Sir Gardener, Christians & BDSM 82 Comments [9/29/2011 5:34:22 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch
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Quote# 84029

A handful of advocates, armed with nothing more than their keyboards, have put many of the country’s largest retailers, including Apple, Microsoft, Netflix and Wal-Mart, on the spot over their indirect and, until recently, unnoticed roles in funneling money to Christian groups that are vocal in opposing homosexuality.

The advocates are demanding that the retailers end their association with an Internet marketer that gets a commission from the retailers for each online customer it gives them. It is a routine arrangement on hundreds of e-commerce sites, but with a twist here: a share of the commission that retailers pay is donated to a Christian charity of the buyer’s choice, from a list that includes prominent conservative evangelical groups like the Family Research Council and Focus on the Family.
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On one side are angry gay-rights advocates and bloggers, wielding the club of the gay community’s purchasing power.

On the other side are conservative Christian groups that say they are being attacked for their legitimate biblical views of sex and marriage, as well as a Web marketing firm that feels trampled for providing consumers with free choice.

Caught in the middle are companies, including such giants as Macy’s, Expedia and Delta Air Lines, which have the dual aims of avoiding politics but not offending any consumers. In this case, they have been pressured to make a choice that may involve little money either way but that could offend large blocs of consumers.

“This is economic terrorism,” said Mike Huckabee, the former pastor, governor and presidential contender, who is a paid CGBG consultant. “To try to destroy a business because you don’t like some of the customers is, to me, unbelievably un-American,” he said in an interview.

Mike Huckabee, New York Times 71 Comments [9/29/2011 5:28:17 AM]
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Quote# 84017

(On Paul Vitz's book Faith of the Fatherless, which claims that atheism is caused by having a bad relationship with one's father in childhood.)

Atheism IS a zero on the spiritual health scale because atheism denies the existence of spirits, and therefore must also conclude that there is no such thing as "spiritual health" at all. So spiritual health, according to atheism, is equal to zero because it is totally non-existent.

Anyone who has taken the time to READ Vitz's actual book knows that he does not make "ridiculous over-generalizations." He specifically points out and addresses the fact that there are exceptions to his theory.

But as long as we're presenting anecdotal evidence, let me have a go: My Dad spent EVERY day with me growing up, as did my Mom. If your dad only spent a measly 3 days a week with you growing up, your childhood was an appalling travesty.

Try reading Vitz's actual book all the way through BEFORE you judge it. How does that sound?

Brainwave, Beliefnet 77 Comments [9/28/2011 3:14:50 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch
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Quote# 84013

[Audience members at GOP debate boo gay soldier.]

Incorrect on many levels.

One they booing his homosexuality. Two they booed is defiant public defense of immorality. Three they booed his questionable commitment to duty, for by his appearance and question he brought shame upon all.

Despite the sick fads of current society much of morality is still an absolute. Homosexuality is wrong.

The audience would have likewise booed a UN Soldier defending sex with children that was done so that those children could get food.

bvw, Free Republic 67 Comments [9/28/2011 3:13:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog
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Quote# 84007

3. Submission is for our protection

God did not devise submission to bring wives into bondage. No, it is for our blessing, protection and covering. God's ultimate plan is for His female creation to be under protection throughout their entire lives--under their father's protection as a single person and then under their husband's protection when they marry. We see an understanding of this in Numbers Chapter 30.

Nancy Campell, Above Rubies 55 Comments [9/28/2011 3:10:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Trike
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Quote# 84000

@ Craig

You might want to reconsider your position in light of this fact, if you want children you don’t need a woman in your life at all, just some money.

Hire a surrogate and be happy.

Why don’t you do it? I believe men have a romantic notion of wife and family.

That has been a very nasty bit of fraud perpetrated on men for over a century.

You do not need a wife, a wife today is a major liabilty, like having cancer (and this is a serious analogy, think about it, a growth of cells that consumes, does not contribute, then, if your lucky is painfully removed leaving you injured for life).

Rocco, The Spearhead 69 Comments [9/27/2011 2:58:06 AM]
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Submitted By: Balthazar The Wise
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Quote# 83997

We need to stand firmly and unapologetically on the hard truth that homosexuality is not a benign, morally neutral social phenomenon. It is an insidious and contagious form of sexual perversion condemned by God as an abomination. I cringe even writing these words because I know the wrath I am inviting on myself. Still, someone needs to say this boldly and publicly because it is the truth, and only the truth can set us free of the political correctness that has imprisoned us until now. The homosexual agenda represents an existential threat to Christian civilization and we're in the final phase of the war, losing badly. It all hinges upon you, Christian reader. Either get into the game in earnest, immediately, or wave goodbye.

Scott Lively, Joe. My. God. 69 Comments [9/27/2011 2:55:14 AM]
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Submitted By: Aspergus
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Quote# 83983

That’s the reason we oppose the normalization of homosexuality, it’s not because we don’t like homosexuals it’s because we love them. I mean listen to me, if you love people, if you care about people, if they matter to you, their well-being is important to you, do you want to encourage them, do you want to support a lifestyle, do you want to subsidize and reward and provide special legal protections for behavior that’s gonna make them more likely to experience depression, suicidal ideation, homelessness and domestic violence? I mean that is cruelty to me, that’s the mark of somebody that does not care about human beings. Well, we care about human beings. We do not want human beings to get depressed, we don’t want them to commit suicide, we don’t want them to wind up homeless in the street, and we don’t want them to be victims of domestic violence. And we haven’t even talked about HIV-AIDS. That’s why we oppose homosexuality, because we are for homosexuals; we are for homosexuals, and that’s why we are against homosexuality and the normalization of homosexual behavior.



It’s bigotry to be against people that want people to be protected from suicide and depression and killing themselves and winding up on the street. I mean, how much more bigoted can you get than that to try to stop people that want to save folks from a self-destructive lifestyle? To me that is cruel and inhumane.

Bryan Fischer, Right Wing Watch 67 Comments [9/27/2011 2:54:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog
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Quote# 83890

If the Rapture happens soon and millions of people vanish and Obama doesn't have an explanation right away (because I think he is clueless to end time prophecy)...do you think he will panic and shut the internet down?

Do you think the internet will crash if Obama doesn't shut it down by over use by the masses. Is that possible? I don't know much about technology. When I think about it, maybe the use won't be as much as I think when millions of people that are gone won't be using it.

I really want the people that are left behind to be able to obtain all the "What's next"? information that is online after the Rapture.

When Hurricane Irene was coming up the East Coast I went out for D batteries (about 4 days before it was suppose to hit my area) and there was not any to be found! I was happy I already had some on hand, I was just adding extras to the stash. As I was looking at the empty shelves I started to think right then if this will be the case with Bibles soon after the Rapture. Will the people that heard the message but refuted it, now think "oh, maybe they were right" and run out to find a Bible and soon they will all be gone or will more people buy into a lie that the Pope or someone else is spreading around like wildfire.

If the internet stays on, at least there are many Bibles online for those that want them and so much more information too.

It is weird to think that after the Rapture this forum will be empty of posters. But what a wealth of information will remain. :-)

Back to my main question, do you think Obama will turn the internet off for whatever reason?

HugsFromJesus, RR 84 Comments [9/27/2011 2:51:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Lisa
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Quote# 83988

Yes the commandment is (Thou Shalt Do no Murder)

Did you know you can Love your enemies and shoot them to?

turtle, Rapture Ready 96 Comments [9/25/2011 12:41:43 PM]
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Submitted By: Cindy
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Quote# 83986

[on launching the Marriage Anti-Defamation Alliance]

The goal of the Marriage Anti-Defamation Alliance is to create a supportive community for those who have been threatened for standing for marriage, to nip the climate of fear being created in the bud, to expose for fair-minded Americans on both sides of the debate the threats being made, to conduct high-quality qualitative and quantitative research documenting the extent of the harm, to develop legislative and community proposal to protect Americans right to engage in the core civil rights: to organize, to vote, to speak, to donate, and to write for marriage. Isolated and alone, we can be suppressed and intimidated. Together we are too many to be treated as second-class citizens.


Maggie Gallagher, Joe. My. God. 54 Comments [9/25/2011 12:40:37 PM]
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Submitted By: Aspergus
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Quote# 83977

[in response to a gay soldier asking the candidates at a presidential debate if they "intend to circumvent the progress that's been made for gay and lesbian soldiers in the military"]


I’ll try to translate the homo speak...”can I, as a gay person, prance around in tight pink shirts, while marching with my partner and a gun and those who oppose my fabulous lifestyle should be punished?”


max americana, Free Republic 90 Comments [9/24/2011 5:13:35 AM]
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Submitted By: recon_etc
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Quote# 83967

About one in five Americans combine a view of God as actively engaged in daily workings of the world with an economic conservative view that opposes government regulation and champions the free market as a matter of faith.

"They say the invisible hand of the free market is really God at work," says sociologist Paul Froese, co-author of the Baylor Religion Survey, released today by Baylor University in Waco, Texas.

..."When Rick Perry or Michele Bachmann say 'God blesses us, God watches us, God helps us,' religious conservatives get the shorthand. They see 'government' as a profane object — a word that is used to signal working against God's plan for the United States. To argue against this is to argue with their religion."



Religious Conservatives, USA Today 55 Comments [9/24/2011 5:07:18 AM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random
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Quote# 83962

We should not allow people to victimize themselves, especially when there is a cost to those around them: friends, family, neighbors, etc. There is no such thing as a victimless crime and homosexuality is a crime.

Lighthouse, theologyonline.com 59 Comments [9/24/2011 5:06:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Persephone 66
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Quote# 83944

A man whose family died in Brisbane's worst house fire believes the tragedy is a blessing in disguise because it will attract more followers to his church.

Taukinukufili Taufa ran the Church of Baptism with Fire & Holy Spirit out of the Brisbane house which caught fire last month.

The blaze killed Mr Taufa's wife, daughter and three of his grandchildren as well as six other extended family members.

Mr Taufa said God speaks to him directly and he believes in baptism through "heavenly fire".

"God showed me how to do it, baptise people in the fire of the Holy Spirit. This is not bad after all, it's a blessing in disguise," he told Close Up.

Three years ago, Mr Taufa set up the firepurifications.webs.com website where he wrote that "we must be baptised in fire".

The 66-year-old said the fire and the loss of 11 of his family members was not a terrible coincidence.

"It is only a terrible coincidence if you don't know what the difference is ... explain to the people how to find, how to differentiate."

Jeremy Lale and his family had been staying with Mr Taufa for two months and were to move out of the home the day after the blaze - but he lost his wife and five children the night of the fire.

But Mr Taufa said the Lale family "came here at the right time".

"They [were] included in the people that God chose to become his people in heaven," he said.

Mr Taufa said he would build another home on the property and hoped more people would be attracted to his church.

"I know it's going to be a tourist resort in the future because people in the world heard about it. They will try to come and have a look."

Australian police told Close Up they were waiting for results on the cause of the fire but believed it was "just a tragic event".

Taukinukufili Taufa, New Zealand Herald 70 Comments [9/23/2011 2:58:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch
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Quote# 83937

Linda Harvey, the founder of Mission America, says that LGBT people don’t exist. She made the comments during her weekend broadcast while she was attacking the Gay, Lesbian, And Straight Education Network.

Harvey was particularly perturbed by the GLSEN Sports Program which works towards “creating and maintaining an athletic and physical education climate that is based on the core principles of respect, safety and equal access for all students, teachers and coaches regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity/expression.”

Harvey believes there is no need for such a program because according to her, there is no proof that LGBT people exist.

Harvey: “There’s one big fact that’s not backed up. There is no proof that there’s ever anything like a gay, lesbian or bisexual or transgendered child, or teen or human. One of the other things you’re gonna see as I mentioned is a big campaign GLSEN’s gonna roll out this year calling for ‘respect,’ respect! Not just for people, but for homosexual lifestyle. The PR campaign to hold up gay as a good thing: the lifestyle, not the person, because there are no such humans.”

Linda Harvey, Addicting Info 131 Comments [9/23/2011 2:50:18 AM]
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Submitted By: Dr. Flibble
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Quote# 83934

Why I Told Elton John He Must Die: Hebrews 9:27

Since the charges of issuing a terroristic threat against Elton John in the video above have officially been reopened and I am again facing 10 years in a Georgia State Prison, it is proper to state why I said what I said to him.

The word of God has no meaning without application. Unless Elton John heard that God was speaking to him personally, the preacher would have failed to preach the word of God to Elton John, like all the millions of preachers failed who heard him call the Lord Jesus Christ a homosexual and let the blasphemy pass as if it did not require a warning.

Every word in the Bible is just sounds without application, sounds that can mean anything any outlaw chooses for them to mean. But when applied by the Holy Ghost to an individual, those sounds become the Words of God, quick and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of joint and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. That's why people must hear how the word of God applies to them as individuals for them to actually hear the gospel. That's supposed to be why preachers preach and teachers teach.

Elton John was warned. Since he is a media icon who blasphemed my Lord in front of millions of people, it seemed fitting his warning should occur in front of that same audience to demonstrate a goal of my campaign for Governor which is to bring outlaws to the bar of justice.

Neal Horsley, Horsley For Governor 75 Comments [9/22/2011 3:15:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar
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Quote# 83923

Science doesn’t requires faith? Are you KIDDING ME???

We are supposed to believe that evolution is scientific fact? Or how about Man-Made global warming?

Atheists like you are arrogant jerks who think no one but you is allowed to have an opinion. It would be MUCH easier for me to make a case that you are mentally unstable.

StanInTexas, Moonbattery 78 Comments [9/21/2011 3:33:21 AM]
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Quote# 83905

The world stands at the brink – the Progressive/Muslim Axis vs. Natural Law/Christianity. Indeed, developments in Egypt, Tunisia and Jordan may indeed be that fateful domino that causes civilizations to collide into global catastrophe. Muslims want to invite apocalypse to set the stage for the so-called Twelfth Imam. Since the 1880s, progressives have provoked societal chaos through a litany of diabolical ideas and welfare policies designed to plunge America and the West into utopian socialism as a pretext to destroy Christianity, Natural Law and the Constitution while forcing society into a globalist Marxist state.

Heads the Progressive-Muslim Axis wins – tails Western civilization, Christianity and Israel lose.

Ellis Washington, World Net Daily 87 Comments [9/20/2011 3:39:22 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar
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Quote# 83904

Tragically, for over 150 years since the publication of Darwin's diabolical, anti-scientific book, "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life," nonpartisan science, truth, logic and deductive reasoning have been ruthlessly suppressed and replaced with state-funded Darwinist propaganda, groupthink, education atheism, liberal fascism and Machiavellian tactics as demonstrated in the Sewell case representing the ongoing battles between the Darwin Gestapo and Intelligent Design scientists.

This existential war on ideas reminds me of a passage from Dan Brown's novel "Angels and Demons" – If science is allowed to claim the moment of creation, (or in Coulter's words, "judge the universe") what is left for God?

Ellis Washington, World Net Daily 67 Comments [9/20/2011 3:38:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar
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Quote# 83901

I have to admit that I was shocked and saddened when watching the Waltons the other night. I just couldn't believe what I was hearing, and it showed me just how far back this push for "tolerance" started.

In this show, Jason Walton was dating a Jewish girl. The girl was confused about her religion and wasn't even sure what it meant to be Jewish. She winds up being all upset and emotional and running off to talk to the new minister at the baptist church the Walton family goes to. (I know I called her a "girl" but she was a woman, full grown and in the army) What shocked me so much was what the minister did. He listened to her (good) and let her get everything off her chest and then proceeded to explain all about Judaism to her and gave her a book that had been given to him by a Jewish Rabbi about Judaism. He then told her that he'd find out where the nearest Temple was so she could start attending there! In the next scene the minister is giving his Sunday sermon which, believe it or not is all about tolerance. He says very proudly that they are "baptists" and the most important thing to remember is that their founder (can't remember the name) had said that any good baptist was tolerant of other religions! Next was a scene of the Waltons at lunch and one of them paraphrases the minister saying that and indicate that as good baptists they should have been proud to help a Jewish person discover their beliefs.

By then I was wavering between anger, disbelief and tears! That minister alone actually picked that girl up out of our Lord's hands and forced her back into a false religion! I'm not at all against helping her understand her roots mind you, but instead of pushing her out the door and into a Temple, why not take the time to explain to her what her Jewish roots are and how wonderful it is and how God entrusted to her people His laws etc and take her from there and show her how God then sent His Son and how she could be saved??? That way she could have understood her roots AND been saved!!!

Instead though, they tossed her to the wolves so she can spend eternity in hell while they all pat themselves on the back for being "good baptists!"

I know...it's only a story, but I'm also sure that it actually happens every day. Hell will be filled with folks because of "good Christians" who were being tolerant.

Cindy, Fresh Hope 81 Comments [9/20/2011 3:26:12 AM]
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Submitted By: physalis17
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Quote# 83880

You gotta be for life, I mean how do you get up every morning and look yourself in the mirror if you can’t be for life? I mean to me that’s the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness. That’s what this country was based on. And when that conception occurs, that’s life. And defending it, and protecting it, and standing up for it, is what we all ought to be about. And I’m glad I live in a state where we do that. Parental consent, parental notification, we’ve probably made Texas the most pro-life state in the nation. A lot of people are moving to Texas today, I think somebody says somebody said well over a thousand, our rolls if you will grow by more than a thousand a day in the state, and I gotta think there’s some people coming here because they’re looking around and they’re seeing some neighborhoods and communities where they don’t recognize and respect life. And they go, you know what? That’s about freedom. When you think about it, life is really about freedom. And I want to come to a place where I can be as free as I can be, and in America today, that’s Texas.

Rick Perry, Right Wing Watch 84 Comments [9/19/2011 3:09:07 AM]
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Quote# 83849

If you doubt the Gestapo tactics of the Darwin lobby, consider that just last week another case was uncovered about how they routinely block academic papers that criticize Darwin's evolution theory from being published. Writer Casey Luskin recalled a meeting with Wesley Elsberry, a long-time activist for the Darwin lobby and former staff member at the National Center for Science Education, who literally rejoiced whenever Intelligent Design scientists had their papers rejected from journals. Furthermore, Elsberry had the gall to criticize Intelligent Design proponents for not publishing in the mainstream scientific literature (an untrue charge).

Ellis Washington, World Net Daily 66 Comments [9/19/2011 3:08:12 AM]
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