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Quote# 90059

Do we hate women…um they hate us and call us inferior, WTF are we suppose to do? Gandhi said an eye for an eye and the whole world is blind, and women had their chance to mend ties with men and blew it, they went for revenge instead. Was it oppressive for women in the past? Yes, but it was oppressive for many other kinds of people too. Nothing compares to the level of blatant and open systemic/institutionalized discrimination, stereotyping and hatred that women project onto men today…nothing!

Towgunner, The Spearhead 45 Comments [10/13/2012 1:02:23 PM]
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Submitted By: afacelessatheist

Quote# 90053

I have a confession to make; I was bullied when I was in grammar school, and I went to both state run and private schools during my time in grammar school. In both, I was bulled and the staff did little to nothing to stop it. I also grew up with homosexual attractions while I was in the private grammar school which was also a very conservative Roman Catholic School. But I survived and I am still very thankful for my Roman Catholic education for providing me an great education not only on the “ 3 R’S” but on moral values and ethics.

Now, I must say, at the time, the bullying seemed to have no real value. I was bullied because of me weight, of a tumor I had on right side of my cheek, a small pony tail that I used to have, of my learning disability and my alleged and actually true homosexual “crush” on another student, which was actually my first “crush.” But unlike today, I fought back. Well, I did not really fight anyone, I “ripped” on them back.

Today, I hardly talk to them and when I do, we just laugh at it. People mature and people move on. I strongly believe that a bully in his childhood is a bully in his/her adulthood. And if they are, they are most likely just passive-aggressive arses.

Without the bullying that I went through as a child and early teenager, I would not able to survive in adult world today. I had have supervisors that were just plain dicks, and guess what, I am still living. If you can’t handle grammar, middle and high school and the bullies that come with it, then I’m sorry, you are the problem, not the bully.

Currently, especially in the U.S, we seem to have an all of a sudden focus on children and teenagers that are homosexual. There are claims that we need to protect them from the bullies because if someone “harasses” based on their sexuality, they are “harmed” so how. That they need to be a protected class because…well I haven’t really heard a reason why from the advocate for it.

Firstly, I grew up homosexual in a Roman Catholic private school, I was told every day that people like myself was going to hell. In fact, my private school and parish went one step further and preached that even having homosexual attractions was a sin, let alone acting on them. So, I felt like crap and at times, I did want to kill myself. But guess what? I survived through the medicine.

Yes, I am saying that the bullying of homosexual teens is beneficial to them, because it will teach them how to fight back and that not everyone is going to accept homosexuality just because it is “the right and smart thing to do”. There is going to ignorant people out there and people are going to “cling to their religion”, deal with it. It will also teach them not to be ahem...overly expressive in professional environments.

Anglican Prussia, Nationstates 75 Comments [10/12/2012 6:08:36 AM]
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Submitted By: acebrock

Quote# 90052

*The number of atheists has increased dramatically, so I'm happy.*

Yes let's all worship the great non-existence. The non-existence rules all and Christopher Hitchens is it's prophet. *bows and performs his not-prayers for the fifth time today.*

Faolinn, Nationstates 40 Comments [10/12/2012 5:59:25 AM]
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Submitted By: acebrock

Quote# 90050

One of the rules that he [St. Paul] promulgated concerned women and their role in the church. He recognized that if given free rein, women would begin to place themselves in positions of authority, where they would inevitably cause trouble for the early Christians. Therefore, he made himself very clear about their role, taking special care to prevent them from teaching and preaching to men.


This may not be a pleasant or comfortable passage for the modern Western woman, but there it is.

Unfortunately, a number of women calling themselves “Christian” have taken it on themselves to teach and preach to men. It is quite common these days, having become almost normative, and the results should have been predictable.

Take Katherine Jefferts Schori for example. Currently the head of the Episcopalian Church in the US, she has all but run that institution into the ground. Some may argue that this is because she is liberal, but I’m not sure that’s the case. St. Paul made no distinctions based on politics, but rather sex.

Certain conservative women have also taken it upon themselves to ignore Paul and start preaching in all but name themselves. They certainly don’t shy away from presuming to teach men when it comes to spiritual matters, which is also clearly proscribed by Paul.


With little to do, these women go around gossiping and provoking people, and taking on inappropriate roles. They might pit men against each other for some little thrill, or simply as a consequence of getting involved in what rightly ought to be worked out amongst men. When the inevitable spat develops, men’s instinct to come to the defense of women is triggered, and next thing you know guys are raising their voices and balling up their fists. This is almost guaranteed to happen, and it proves Paul’s wisdom in his epistle to Timothy.

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 33 Comments [10/12/2012 5:57:36 AM]
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Quote# 90048

"Can you conceive of any rape situations where you don’t see the victim as at fault?"

No and if you try to present any situation as such - it means that we do not have enough information to find what this fault is.

Alpha-Centari, Ravelry BID 47 Comments [10/12/2012 5:56:38 AM]
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Quote# 90047

Britain risks becoming a totalitarian state as a result of gay marriage and could go the way of Nazi Germany, Tory opponents of the government's plans have heard.

Addressing an anti-gay marriage rally in Birmingham Town Hall on the fringes of the Tory Party conference on Monday, the former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey said Christians had so far been "too timid" in their opposition to the government's plans.

He also warned that those of faith could even begin to experience the persecution endured by the Jews in Nazi Germany if they dared to speak out if same-sex marriage laws were passed.

"Remember that the Jews in Nazi Germany, what started it against them was when they were called names, that was the first stage towards that totalitarian state," he said.

He added: "It's part of a slippery slope where the unintended consequences could be shocking."

Lord Carey said politicians were trying to "plunder" the institution of marriage. "It's like annexing what was regarded as specific to make and female relationships."

He added: "Same sex relationships are not the same as heterosexual relationships and should not be put on the same level."

Along with the other speakers including former shadow home secretary Ann Widdecombe and current backbench Tory MP David Burrows, Lord Carey took exception to the 'Coalition4Marriage' campaign being called "bigots".

Lord Carey, Huffington Post 35 Comments [10/12/2012 5:56:29 AM]
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Submitted By: GalvatronPrime

Quote# 90044

If Jesus had never been born, how would we know that abortion is wrong?

big-little-sis67, NaNoWriMo 55 Comments [10/12/2012 5:55:11 AM]
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Quote# 90040

While public restroom sex, public park sex, bath house sex, is a huge part of the homosexual lifestyle, when I said that "they want it all", I meant that they were never content with just having deviant sex. They want so-called "rights" to marry, adopt, mentor youths, serve in the military, etc. based on an immoral, deviant yet changeable behavior.


Hence the "A" in the longer version of the LGBT acronym, LGTQQ&A: Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender (drag queens are part of the T by the way) Queer Questioning (for those 5 year olds that still haven't figured out their sexual "identity") and ALLIES.

The homosexual movement relies heavily on ally support. I've shown politicans that don't claim to be homosexual that have been great allies to the homosexual movement. Pride Parades (i.e. the march of the moral degenerates) have 10's of thousands of straight people that attend. Again, they are allies of the homosexual movement.

aCultureWarrior, Theology Online 54 Comments [10/11/2012 8:37:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Persephone 66

Quote# 90031

The maintenance of civil order in society rests on the foundation of family discipline. Therefore, a child who disrespects his parents must be permanently removed from society in a way that gives an example to all other children of the importance of respect for parents. The death penalty for rebellioius children is not something to be taken lightly. The guidelines for administering the death penalty to rebellious children are given in Deut 21:18-21[...]

This passage does not give parents blanket authority to kill their children. They must follow the proper procedure in order to have the death penalty executed against their children. I cannot think of one instance in the Scripture where parents had their child put to death. Why is this so? Other than the love Christ has for us, there is no greater love then [sic] that of a parent for their child. The last people who would want to see a child put to death would be the parents of the child. Even so, the Scrpture provides a safe guard to protect children from parents who would wrongly exercise the death penalty against them. Parents are required to bring their children to the gate of the city. The gate of the city was the place where the elders of the city met and made judicial pronouncements. In other words, the parents were required to take their children to a court of law and lay out their case before the proper judicial authority, and let the judicial authority determine if the child should be put to death. I know of many cases of rebellious children, however, I cannot think of one case where I believe that a parent had given up on their child to the point that they would have taken their child to a court of law and asked the court to rule that the child be put to death. Even though this procedure would rarely be used, if it were the law of land, it would give parents authority. Children would know that their parents had authority and it would be a tremendous incentive for children to give proper respect to their parents.

State Rep. Charlie Fuqua, Arkansas Times 71 Comments [10/11/2012 8:32:55 AM]
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Quote# 90029

Advocates of homogamy often ask how government recognition of homosexual relationships will have any impact on normal marriages. Setting aside the specific answer, which is that the recognition of homogamy has already led to the elimination of the legal terms “husband,” “wife,” “father” and “mother” in some jurisdictions, the more problematic aspect is the way a modified form of Gresham’s law can be observed to apply to modern society.

Call it Dalrock’s law. When a government officially overvalues one type of relationship and undervalues another, the undervalued relationship will decline and become less societally influential, while the overvalued relationship will become more common and more influential.

The government overvaluation of homosexuality is why 4.4 percent of the characters on U.S. television are now sexually abnormal, more than double their actual percentage of the general population. The government devaluation of marital relationships is why marriage rates have been methodically declining across the West, why birth rates have fallen to sub-replacement levels, why the economic growth rates of the 1950s are, at present, demographically impossible and why social programs such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are mathematically doomed.

The Romans did their best to halt both monetary and marital debasement. The Lex Iulia de Adulteriis Coercendis and the Lex Papia Poppaea laws introduced by the Emperor Augustus were both intended to strengthen marriage and raise the birthrate, and Rome survived in the West for another 467 years. Unfortunately for the West in general, and the U.S. in particular, our leaders appear determined to continue to debase marriage and reduce the birthrate, which will only speed up the ongoing process of societal decline and fall.

Vox Day, World Net Daily 32 Comments [10/11/2012 8:31:58 AM]
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Submitted By: Zagen30

Quote# 90025

The Democratic Party and Progressives know illegitimate children are a problem. Bill Clinton is very proud he got reduced costs for birth control. New York Major Bloomberg proposed a program to pay fathers to not abandon their responsibility to their children.

Now that it has been confirmed illegitimate children are a problem, the next question is what is the solution. I believe executing the parents is a better solution than the Democratic solution of abortion and handing out condoms (birth control). Abortion represents the killing of the only innocent person associated with the adultery or fornication that has occurred. Democrats have never explained how they are going to get people to use the birth control they hand out. Why should a man use a desensitizing condom when he know his child can get on welfare. I am still looking for a realistic method from Democrats and Progressive to deal with the problem of illegitimate children.

The Democratic Party is not about to realistically deal with the illegitimate children problem because the illegitimate children will be future voters for Democrats and the parents are the present voters for the Democratic Party.

I consider the Democratic Party to be the Merchants of Misery. The policies of the Democrat Party do not eliminate misery but rather support and encourage illegal and immoral activities that leads to misery.

You might think that to be unrealistic until you realize there is big money to be made off misery.

Clifford Russell, The Progressive 43 Comments [10/11/2012 8:30:49 AM]
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Quote# 90023

"What's killing us is all these entitlements, we've got to get rid of all of them. All this welfare, food stamps, Medicare, and then big government health care on top of it, it's all just too much! When do we say enough is enough?”

What do you mean, exactly, I ask him. You say people are suffering under Obama, don't they need some help?

“No. No more help, enough is enough. People have to pick themselves up, take some responsibility. Why should we be paying for people’s mistakes and bad choices? All these illegitimate families just adding to the population, making all these bad decisions, then asking us to pay for it? It's time to cut them off."

I ask for some clarification: what do you mean, just starve them out? What if people can't find work? Let them starve?

"Look, there's always something you can do. You telling me people can't make a choice for a better life? We have to help all of them? No. I'll tell you what really need to do with these illegitimate families on welfare—give all the kids up for adoption and execute the parents."

Clifford Russell, Progressive.org 107 Comments [10/10/2012 3:37:07 AM]
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Quote# 90018

“Leftism Revisted: From De Sade and Marx to Hitler and Pol Pot” by Eric Von Kuehneit-Leddihin traces Leftism from the French Revolution in detail....he talks about the degeneracy and the mutilation of bodies (which Leftists thought hilarious), even placing headless bodies in very sick, homo-erotic ways. They are that depraved. Human beings have absolutely no dignity. It is a long read, but he goes into detail on all the atrocious sick, deviant behavior of Leftism including causes of Spanish Civil War, etc. Pure godlessness.

Glenn Beck once had a Rabbi on his Blaze site about 4 mos. ago, who talked about Leftist occult practices—their homosexual orgies and worship of fecal material. Virtually putting life giving organs—and mixing it with excrement. It is that denigration of the human body-—to reduce man to animal and NOT in God’s image. They remove the Intellect from man-—and just reduces him to no brain-—just base, dehumanizing, instincts (which even animals don’t do).

savagesusie, Free Republic 61 Comments [10/10/2012 3:36:18 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog

Quote# 90005

As for those who ask, "if [Muslims] can't live by our rules, why are they here?" I have an experiment for you. Find the nearest tick, flea, louse, or bedbug infestation and ask them the same thing. The analogy isn't precise, of course, because from our standpoint fleas, lice, and bedbugs are arguably preferable to Muslims. The flea only wants to bite and suck your blood; he isn't out to rape your daughter, to transform you into another flea, or to create a global empire ruled over by fleas and enforcing flea laws.

Although I admit I'd actually like to see that last one. Charlton Heston running around in a loincloth being pestered by intelligent fleas? "Get your stinking bloodsucking moutparts off me, you damn dirty flea!"

The global Ummah would be much easier to imagine: an ecologically-blasted, over-populated world of stupid fellahin unable to even read the Koran, getting their water from feces-contaminated streams; where hordes of young, angry men riot at the drop of a hat, and where sex crimes are routine and punishment meted out to the victims; the whole thing ruled over by hairy, humorless, bearded fanatics.

If you should ever go into suspended animation and find yourself in a global Ummah, you should immediately go out and look for an unexploded cobalt bomb. Set off it's detonator. You'll be glad you did.

gilliam, Stormfront 28 Comments [10/10/2012 3:34:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog

Quote# 90002

You cannot legislate morality. I have heard that phrase repeated often throughout my lifetime. It must be true. Lennon, the founder of Russian Communism, said that if you tell a lie loud enough and often enough people will believe it. I recently came across a Christian minister who repeated that phrase to me and expressed that he believed it was true. How have we gotten so confused? Is it immoral to shop lift? If we cannot legislate morality, does that mean we cannot have a law that makes shoplifting illegal? If our laws are not based on moral principles they are of no value. Most laws do in fact legislate morality. If a law does not legislate morality the law is unnecessary. Do we really believe that the God of the Bible is the creator of the universe, and the creator of man? If so, doesn’t it stand to reason that we should look to our creator for moral guidance?

Charles Fuqua, God's Law - The Only Political Solution 73 Comments [10/10/2012 3:34:14 AM]
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Quote# 89982

In 2003, when Bush was president, I took a male cat to be fixed. It cost $40, pain meds were free.

Today, I took a female cat to be fixed. For the exact same procedures, it cost $80, plus $13 for pain meds.

Thank you, Mr President.

Acts 5:41, Rapture Ready 114 Comments [10/9/2012 3:48:41 AM]
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Quote# 89977

Yep. That’s exactly it. Here in the US they de-emphasized exams in the mid-late 80s. College admissions were previously 2/3rds exams and 1/3rd grades, and then it was reversed in one fell swoop.

The proportion of girls admitted surpassed boys almost overnight.

The female preponderance in higher ed admissions was entirely engineered.

But it’s OK, because now credentials have been significantly devalued, and professors barely make middle-class pay (serves them right).

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 32 Comments [10/9/2012 3:48:19 AM]
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Quote# 89976

But we all know the liberal left will look to anything other than God and say it was the reason for the unusualy high temps. Like: "Well this years record setting temps were due to all the volcanoes spuing debri into the air. God had nothing to do with it.
Liberals are so nuts they will try to logically explain away the plagues of the Tribulation on something other than God, when it would really be almost impossible to do such. In which case their own followers may go after them for such stupid and irrational explanations in light of the Bible showing all of them as exactly like they happened.
Ultra-Liberals are the ones Romans chapter 1 describes to a "T".

waiting1, rapture ready 41 Comments [10/9/2012 3:47:57 AM]
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Quote# 89975

Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) tore into scientists as tools of the devil in a speech at the Liberty Baptist Church Sportsman’s Banquet last month.

“All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and the Big Bang Theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of Hell,” Broun said. “And it’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior.”

According to Broun, the scientific plot was primarily concerned with hiding the true age of the Earth. Broun serves on the House Science Committee, which came under scrutiny recently after another one of its Republican members, Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO), suggested that victims of “legitimate rape” have unnamed biological defenses against pregnancy.

“You see, there are a lot of scientific data that I’ve found out as a scientist that actually show that this is really a young Earth,” he said. “I don’t believe that the Earth’s but about 9,000 years old. I believe it was created in six days as we know them. That’s what the Bible says.”

Broun — a physician, with an M.D. and a B.S. in chemistry — is generally considered to be among the most conservative members of Congress, if not the most. He drew national attention in 2010 for saying he did not know if President Obama was an American citizen.

“What I’ve come to learn is that it’s the manufacturer’s handbook, is what I call it,” he said. “It teaches us how to run our lives individually, how to run our families, how to run our churches. But it teaches us how to run all of public policy and everything in society. And that’s the reason as your congressman I hold the holy Bible as being the major directions to me of how I vote in Washington, D.C., and I’ll continue to do that.”

Rep. Paul Broun, Talking Points Memo 49 Comments [10/9/2012 3:19:59 AM]
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Quote# 89971

The atheo-Marxist and yet Mother Earth Goddess-worshiping Left is in full and total control of all Western governments, pinbun. What AmeriKKKa really needs is separation of Earth and State, not church and state.

prawnster, talk.origins 40 Comments [10/9/2012 3:08:21 AM]
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Quote# 89970

(Orlando Cruz becomes first openly gay man in boxing)

This could actually intimidate his opponents. They are going to be careful of any contact with open cuts on his face or elsewhere. That blood could very well be the carrier of a fatal disease. You can’t avoid getting some of his blood on your own boxing glove and you can’t avoid using your own boxing glove to protect your own face.

Vigilanteman, Free Republic 41 Comments [10/9/2012 3:08:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Missouri1988

Quote# 89967

I was in a PLAYPLEX this weekend with my children. I entered a LAZER ZONE room which was pitch black and filled with BLACK LIGHT. The SOUND in the room was VIOLENT and HARASSING. God immediately told me to "get out of there". My legs were trembling when I left that LAZER ZONE. I prayed quickly and the Lord told me "MALEDRONE". I stayed in the PLAYPLEX arcade (not the LAZER ZONE) for another hour with my children and began to get a TERRIBLE HEADACHE. I was speaking in tongues the entire time. When I got home I looked in the dictionary for some meaning to MALEDRONE. As I scanned the pages and didn't see MALEDRONE, I felt led to this word- "Malediction" which is a prayer to befall to hurt someone, a CURSE.... and then I looked up, "Drone" which is a low humming or a pilotless plane or ship controlled by radio signals. I believe the Lord was telling me that in this PLAYPLEX, I literally was being CURSED and it was coming through in a subconscious hum of some sort."

Unknown (to me anyways), Demonbusters.com 82 Comments [10/8/2012 3:49:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Hannah

Quote# 89966

Rabbi Yehuda Levin, spokesman for the Rabbinical Alliance of America issued the following statement:

“When Americans are suffering economically and millions need jobs, it’s shocking that the Administration is focused on its ultra-liberal militantly homosexualist agenda forcing the highlighting of homosexuals and homosexuality on an unwilling military. This is the equivalent of the spiritual rape of our military to satisfy the most extreme and selfish cadre of President Obama’s kooky coalition.

“We agree with Eileen Donnelly of the Center for Military Readiness that this will hurt the cohesiveness of the military, cause many to leave the army, and dramatically lower the number of recruits, perhaps leading to the reinstatement of a compulsory draft.

“Thirteen months before 9/11, on the day New York City passed homosexual domestic partnership regulations, I joined a group of Rabbis at a City Hall prayer service, pleading with G-d not to visit disaster on the city of N.Y. We have seen the underground earthquake, tsunami, Katrina, and now Haiti. All this is in sync with a two thousand year old teaching in the Talmud that the practice of homosexuality is a spiritual cause of earthquakes. Once a disaster is unleashed, innocents are also victims just like in Chernobyl.

“We plead with saner heads in Congress and the Pentagon to stop sodomization of our military and our society. Enough is enough.”

Rabbi Yehuda Levin, ChristianNewsWire 52 Comments [10/8/2012 3:48:58 AM]
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Quote# 89962

Thank you for your post.

Everything that needs to happen before the rapture has presented itself, except for the possibilities of:

The Fall of Damascus.
We are watching the Islamisation of the Middle East as they regroup in their Arab Spring/Winter to surround Israel.
We are watching countries collapse economically and calling for a financial savior to rescue them.
The Euro is tanking and announces a need for a messiah.
The local church is infected with apostasy and is baring her open wound for a one world religion solution under the guise of sensual love and acceptance of all God and scripture forbids.

The world is actually waiting for us to leave because nothing else can happen and they can do nothing else before we are gone.

Here are some things we won't see before we are taken out of here:

The world system financially collapses and unites under one economic banner.
A new world leader rises up to rescue the world from war and socio-economic collapse.
A new church leader rises up to unify all churches together under one banner of love and tolerance.
Israel builds and worships in their new temple in Jerusalem.
Israel is surrounded by nations for obliteration.

Which leads us back to our original question: "How long will our LORD tarry?"

buzzardhut, rapture ready 43 Comments [10/8/2012 3:47:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony

Quote# 89960

Doctors at Long Island’s North Shore Hospital say Grace Sung Eun Lee is competent and made her wishes clear. Woman's parents say removing her from life support would be suicide and condemn her to hell

She is paralyzed from the neck down, tethered to breathing and feeding tubes — but Manhattan bank manager Grace Sung Eun Lee still managed to mouth four words Wednesday.

“I want to die.”

Doctors are trying to honor Lee’s wish, but her devout parents believe that removing the tubes is suicide — a sin that would condemn the 28-year-old to hell.

They’ve gone to court to keep the terminally ill brain-cancer patient on life support, turning a heartbreaking family tragedy into a right-to-die legal battle.

The case has put medical ethics and religion on a collision course, with lawyers arguing in two courtrooms while the patient at the center of the fight can do little more than blink her eyes.

“The thought of her dying, my heart tremors, everything goes black,” Grace’s father, prominent Queens pastor the Rev. Manho Lee, pleaded to a judge.

Her mother, Jin-ah Lee, does not believe her always dutiful daughter has given up on life — or that her death is inevitable.

“Despite all this confusion, she wants to go to heaven,” she told the Daily News. “I keep telling her she can get better. God’s going to save you.”

The congregation at Antioch Missionary Church is praying for Grace, who mentored young people. The day after the Korea Times wrote about the case, a Korean church group took out an ad that declared: “Giving up life is not the will of God.”

Lee’s Korean immigrant parents say she is depressed and not in her right mind.

“We believe that our daughter is really heavily medicated and unable to make her own decisions,” her father said Wednesday.

But her doctors at Long Island’s North Shore Hospital say she’s competent and has made her wishes clear.

“She is very tearful when she thinks about dying, but she consistently asks that the breathing tube be removed and she begs us to do that,” Dr. Dana Lustbader, chief of palliative medicine at North Shore, testified at an emergency hearing last week.

Manho Lee and Jin-ah Lee, nydailynews.com 50 Comments [10/8/2012 3:47:43 AM]
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