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Quote# 90515

At a campaign event for Iowa Rep. Steve King (R), former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum warned that the United States was “over” if President Barack Obama was re-elected in November.

“This is your moment. We lose — Steve King will tell you — we lose, and Obamacare implemented, it’s over. Hate to be that stark, but it’s over,” he said.

“We will no longer hear a candidate get up and talk about 47 percent of the people in a moment when no one was supposedly recording,” Santorum continued, alluding to a video of Romney describing nearly half of Americans as government-dependent victims who didn’t take responsibility for themselves. “Because everyone will be dependent upon government benefits. When that happens — our Founders pleaded and warned us against that — when that happens, game not on, but game over.”

Santorum encouraged those in attendance to do more to help elect King and Romney, saying they could “make a difference in the future of humankind.”

Rick Santorum, Raw Story 60 Comments [11/6/2012 3:49:11 AM]
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Quote# 90512

I know it’s Halloween, but this is more terrifying than ghosts and goblins and vampires.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: If Barack Obama is re-elected Nov. 6 for a second term, he will declare a full-scale war on his domestic opposition.

There may not be another free and fair election in America.

I would expect due process to go the way of the horse and buggy.

I think he will move to shut down and destroy all independent media.

In fact, I think his biggest critics will be rounded up in the name of national security.

Last week, for instance, with little fanfare, Obama issued an executive order establishing something that sounds so innocent on the surface – but it could prove to be a vehicle for the kind of political putsch I am describing.

It establishes the “White House Homeland Security Partnership Council.”

Essentially, Obama wants to deputize “community organizers” like him to determine who represents a real threat to the republic.

If any Republican, conservative, independent journalist, pro-life activist, returning veteran, gun-rights activist, constitutionalist, Bible believer or critic of Obama thinks they will be safe in a second term under this would-be despot, they had better think again – real fast.

Joseph Farah, WND 59 Comments [11/5/2012 7:03:20 PM]
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Quote# 90510

Anthony Kennedy wrote the infamous Lawrence v. Texas decision that made laws against sodomy unenforceable in America. The Court issued this egregious display of arrogant and immoral judicial activism despite the fact that sodomy had been a criminal offense in all 50 States until 1961 and was still against the law in 24 States and the District of Columbia when the Lawrence decision was issued.

So in one fell swoop the Court deprived almost half the Union of the right to self-governance through their elected representatives, the essence of a republican form of government, and imposed its own twisted version of morality on the entire country. And here we thought imposing your values on others was supposed to be bad! Silly us for believing that swill.

Bryan Fischer, Rightly Concerned 62 Comments [11/5/2012 4:54:42 AM]
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Quote# 90504

Personally I believe in God, heaven, hell and that Satan is real. My reasons are based on the fact that I also believe I have felt God's presence and experienced instances of what I call His power. I am not saying that I am right and everyone else is wrong by proxy. However, in my own logic, I would prefer believe that there is a purpose and greater power who actually cares about me than go through life believing that 'this is all there is, I might as well murder, rape, pillage, and decapitate as many people as I can until I die.'

KittyKitty18, deviantART 53 Comments [11/5/2012 4:43:05 AM]
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Submitted By: iamfantastikate

Quote# 90498

Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock found himself pushing the envelop of conservative views on abortion to the edge of the table, perhaps more dramatically than even Missouri U.S. Senate candidate Todd Akin. Mourdock said, “I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.” He pleaded the cause with with a heartfelt burden. Naturally, the liberal media turned it into more of the Republican war–on women. Never mind the child. Damn the unborn. That’s the liberal position. Get rid of that thing, now!

Tough call. Liberals will have their victims (women alive, that can vote), regardless. The question of “legitimate” rape (i.e., was the woman actually raped), or the statistic indicating how many actually raped women actually become pregnant thereby, do not interest liberals at all. They want the unborn, and newly born, slaughtered, as population control, and they want old people eased out as quickly as possible. The party of death, the Democrat Party.

David Yeagley, Bad Eagle 55 Comments [11/5/2012 4:39:50 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog

Quote# 90497

The homosexual push for 'equal' marriage," otherwise known as genderless marriage, can only lead to a ban on heterosexual rights. With a President in power who endorses gay causes and readily misuses executive orders, and emboldened by their numerous wins for gay rights at the legislative and judicial level, homosexuals have now moved beyond equal rights to the 'more equal than you' level. As a result, gay organizations are working to ban that practice they fear the most -- heterosexual behavior.

The culture war is not slowing down; it's just beginning to gain steam as gay organizations turn to anti-heterosexual legislation, mandatory public approval of sodomy, federal funding of gay youth activist organizations and homosexual initiatives, required government training against 'homophobia,' 'heterosexism,' and 'transphobia,' etc., etc. This is more than a culture war; it is a war for our very own freedoms -- a war for the character and future of our nation. Homofascism will soon be, if it is not already, the greatest threat to our individual liberties in this country. So-called equality marriage is just the beginning.

Greg Quinlan, Joe. My. God. 26 Comments [11/5/2012 4:38:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Aspergus

Quote# 90254

Back in the 60s, faggots were drummed out on a general discharge just to help save platoon morale. Now they’re celebrated, and all the normal soldiers have to stand aside and let them destroy our military.

The all-female navy vessel was embarassing, and now this. Do they expect normal people to enlist and have to bunk with these perverted faggots (or is that redundant?)?

The military police should be able to arrest anyone in this photo and should have them imprisoned for their gross disrespect to our flag. What a horrible dishonor to all soldiers who went before them.

laweeks, Free Republic 41 Comments [11/4/2012 1:22:30 PM]
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Quote# 90484

[Someone suggests a rule/law to try and drive down the number of men doing murder/suicides on estranged wives. This is one response.]

The 90 day rule proposed rests on at least two flawed assumptions:

murder/suicide is a bad thing and
that anyone (in this case the courts) can interfere with a man’s private affairs for any reason.

Before I proceed with my points, I acknowledge of such the intent of such a rule is to reduce human suffering. Laudable but ineffectual. Trading murder/suicide for a two-step process to drive a man to suicide only helps the woman. Also, imposing such a rule implies that some men should follow it because it is a rule. Nobody — no cop, no judge, no president — should be afforded any legitimacy in interfering with a man’s family affairs. Conceding that to any degree is tantamount to self-imposed slavery.

At this point, loving fathers and devoted husbands are suited up and in the starting lineup of Team Vagina. In essence, a murder/suicide is a BOGO for our side. Why would we want to stop it?

CooterBee, The Spearhead 33 Comments [11/4/2012 4:45:50 AM]
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Submitted By: afacelessatheist

Quote# 90481

I recently read an article from a self-proclaimed "Christian Democrat" explaining why they would be voting for Obama, and to a larger degree, supporting the Democratic Party. I am intentionally not linking to the original article for a reason. The article was full of the very kind of "fine-sounding arguments" that Paul warns us in Colossians to be on guard against. Given the sorry state of biblical Christianity in America, I know that several of these arguments could easily ensnare and trap a lot of confused Christians -- and I won't willfully provide a potential stumbling block to any believer.

Peter Heck, OneNewsNow 37 Comments [11/4/2012 4:45:15 AM]
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Quote# 90478

[on a blog post of a pro-lifer who turned pro-choice]
Being evil is easier than being principled, so your story of courage is really the opposite. I’ll agree that birth control should be supported by people who are pro-life, but unfortunately the only people who subscribe to any morality in this country are strict Christians, some of whom mistakenly want to legislate morality. But why isn’t there a pro-choice faction that supports BC, but wants to limit abortion? Because they have taken their pro-choicisim to such a level that they are in fact anti-life. Now being pro-BC doesn’t mean you have to be pro-free-BC, that is stepping things up to pro-socialism. You think you were being “duped” before, but you still are being duped, just to an atheistic anti-human doctrine.

Wilson, Love, Joy, Feminism 28 Comments [11/4/2012 4:38:09 AM]
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Submitted By: afacelessatheist

Quote# 90477

Leiter asserted that the “the Great Flood in the time of Noah was triggered by the recognition of same-gender marriages,” adding that there are similar “messages in this particular storm for us.” “The Lord will not bring another flood to destroy the entire world but He could punish particular areas with a flood, and if we look at the same-gender marriage recognition movement that’s occurring, that certainly is a message for us to learn,” he said. “We have to learn that the Lord does watch what we do and if we don’t shape up He will deliver divine justice.” Leiter also suggested that God flooded Lower Manhattan because it is “one of the national centers of homosexuality.”
"There are so many things that people could point out about the negatives aspects of the homosexual lifestyle that is being touted as being this wonderful idea that the media doesn’t talk about. We’re talking about victimization that goes on under the rubric of protecting people’s rights; they’re not interested in protecting people’s rights, they’re interested in giving people a license to victimize, particularly to victimize children, and we pick up the pieces on some of that. We know how hard this is hitting society. The crisis of child molestation is not independent of the intentional proliferation of unfettered homosexuality, they are definitely connected, it doesn’t meant that every molester is homosexual but many of them are, there is a disproportionate number that are homosexual males. They are in some cases being given a certain degree of diplomatic immunity because of their favored status centered around a common vice. That’s something that no state has a right to do."

Rabbi Noson Leiter, Right Wing Watch 34 Comments [11/4/2012 4:37:57 AM]
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Submitted By: Zagen30

Quote# 90476

[A picture of a topless Ukrainian FEMEN activist sowing down a cross memorial for the victims of the soviet dictatorship in protest of the Pussy Riot conviction in Russia is shown]

Well, Judith M….they are feminists.
Operating dangerous equipment while Topless.
Showing off their bodies like meat on display is a sure fire way to get a man to respect your mind.

Don’cha know.
Makes about as much sense as lesbians supporting abortion.
Because nothing shows how “strong” you are like murdering the defenseless.

Grunt, Moonbattery 28 Comments [11/4/2012 4:37:42 AM]
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Submitted By: UHM

Quote# 90471

[In reference to Michael Moore's C Punch ads]
Every real American should see these ads and understand they represent utter moral and intellectual degeneracy. Realize these ads represent a growing number of millions of people who want "their side" to have total political power. Compare these ads to the propaganda in Germany in the 1930's, demonzing Jews and others. Marxism infiltrated America, took control of all our major cultural institutions and destroyed them. Now the resulting vile hate and violence is being kicked into overdrive. Imagine these people, a few years from now, getting the total power they crave. These demonic attitudes are the precursors to murderous violence, civil war and even genocide. The leftists have embraced pure Evil. We should all know what we are dealing with, before it grows out of control and consumes our nation in the flames of hatred.

Bob, WND 28 Comments [11/4/2012 4:34:23 AM]
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Quote# 90469

"Science" considers a chimpanzee to be a 'human like' creature.

I've worked in a science based career for over 30 years. And 'science' has disappointed me for at least half of that period with stupid unsubstantiated claims that they call 'conclusive' evidence.

And then you heart that the common fruit fly has 99% of the same DNA as a human.

Sorry, 'science' will have to do better, MUCH better, than this to convince me of ANY claim that they have about ANYTHING.

Ruler4You, WND 38 Comments [11/4/2012 4:29:19 AM]
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Quote# 90467

Yesterday a friend of mine posted on Facebook a blog post by a "Christian" group. Said it really spoke to her. It was about Genesis being a poem and a bunch of other scary nonsense. I replied that this group is into stuff that is not Biblical, and this is scary stuff. My former pastor's wife comments, "Your salvation isn't based on a literal 6 day creation or millions of years. Is Jesus your Saviour? Christians get in a twist about too many things. That's my vote." (I am not making this up). Sorry, but I'm going to call it what it is. That's why I left that church. They don't want to point fingers or hurt anyone's feelings.

Wishing4, rapture ready 28 Comments [11/4/2012 4:29:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony

Quote# 90463

["So 80% of the world's scientists who work in other fields are not actually scientists but op-ed writers. Its all a big conspiracy. We get it."]

I am sorry to destroy your innocent trust in others, however not everyone is honest.

["Religious claims have no exemption from scientific scrutiny just because you call it "religion".]

Can a physicist or a chemist prove that the Roman Empire existed? We actually base few of our beliefs on hard, exact, repeatable laboratory experiments. So the assertion that "I only believe in science." is ridiculous.

jewish philosopher, Torah Philosophy 24 Comments [11/4/2012 4:27:36 AM]
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Quote# 90459

[Story time with aCultureWarrior]

So I'm at the fillin station and see this woman acquaintance and strike up a conversation with her saying how the gas prices have dropped as I speculated that they would so close to the election (are the American people really that stupid that they'd vote for the Marxist again because they're saving a few pennies on gasoline?). She starts talking about watching the debates and how both candidates pretty much said what they thought the people wanted to hear. Her wisdom rapidly went downhill after that.

I told her I was involved in the REJECT R-74 campaign and hundreds and hundreds of signs have been stolen across the state. She wasn't familiar with R-74, so I told her that it was to repeal the current legislation that would allow homosexuals to "marry". She gives me this odd look and talks about how she's in "the THEA-A-TAR" and "has many gay friends and also had two uncles that were gay". She continues to tell me how she hopes her boys grow up open minded and how she would approve of them if one "came out". I told her that marriage is the foundation of society and that it is founded upon Biblical principles. She stated (even though she and her family attend church) that she "didn't agree with everything in the Bible".

Not wanting to be doused by gasoline and set on fire, I held off on comments like "If Uncle Bruce and Uncle Bruce were both adulterers, into incest or bestiality, would you approve of those lifestyles as well?"

Nor did I comment on how she should be careful about allowing her two young boys to be around homosexuals, as they're notorious child molesters.

As far as her views on the Bible go, I would have loved to share this article on "ala carte Christianity" with her, perhaps I'll email it to her.

"We live in a time what could be called “ala carte” Christianity. That is, sometimes you go to a fancier restaurant and the menu will say “ala carte.” You pick and chose those parts of the menu that seem the best for you, those parts that you think you can afford. And so you chose this and this. Well, that is the way that some people feel about the Ten Commandments. They pick and chose those parts of the Ten Commandments that they want to obey. For example, I may like commandments two, three and four but commandments five, six and seven are not so attractive to me. So Christians chose which commandments are important to them..."

aCultureWarrior, Theology Online 44 Comments [11/4/2012 4:12:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Persephone 66

Quote# 90457

I would say that extramarital sex is more like shooting heroin than driving. There is no practical need for it and the thrill such as it is is not worth the terrible consequences.

["there a millions of people who are "fine" and dont keep the torah."]

There probably were plenty of Nazis who were also fine. So?

jewish philosopher, Torah Philosophy 51 Comments [11/3/2012 9:54:13 AM]
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Quote# 90456

Stalin was a major mass murderer. So was his fellow atheist, Mao. Th worst mass murderers in history were atheists. Moreover, a disproportionate number of mass murderers were atheists and vise-versa. And every time atheists run a country, they wind up committing mass murder. IF you are successful in your quest of making the world atheistic we can expect to see a marked increase in mass murder.

laugh out loud, Torah Philosophy 44 Comments [11/3/2012 9:53:57 AM]
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Quote# 90450

Why soccer is beloved by the dumb and the damned.

The devil’s attacks on goodness and decency take many forms. The common denominator? Disruption, disorder, and “dis” everything. Dante described the workings of the devil as “dis”.

Throughout history, the devil has pushed to destroy every good thing and institution. He has destroyed with divorce, birth control, and abortion. He undermines marriage, prosperity, and all that is good and decent.

Soccer is typical of activities which are made as hurtful as possible. When a child’s head comes in contact with a soccer ball speeding toward it, the brain sloshes within the skull. Delicate bones in the ear undergo stress. Delicate neural connections are broken. Who could be in favor of that?

It would be easy to say: “Let’s just stop letting kids hit soccer balls with their heads.”

That is not done. The devil’s minions do not what that damage to stop. They understand that cumulative brain damage, no matter how minute, reduces the effectiveness of the human brain. Soccer dumbs down everyone involved, especially the smarter kids.

Evil does not like intelligence. Hitting hard soccer balls with their heads makes hundreds of millions of middle-class children far less able to do well than they would have otherwise been. After they are dumbed-down, they are dragged down, unable to solve problems as effectively as they could have if child abusers had not damaged their brains by having hard soccer balls slamming endlessly into their heads.

That’s why soccer is beloved by the dumb and the damned. It seems more popular with Democrats than Republicans, though, on analysis, it is usually Democrats behind the process by which so many Republican children’s minds are weakened.

To many leftists, soccer is a “fairness issue” by which those pesky smart people can be brought to lower levels of achievement and accomplishment. There are lots of reasons why soccer is beloved by the dumb and the damned.

Catholic Fundamentalism, Catholic Fundamentalism 62 Comments [11/3/2012 9:45:05 AM]
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Quote# 90445

[on hurricane sandy]

Wake up call for the Rats & blue states. Their convention threw God out of their platform & played games with his Holy Name.

These sodomite baby killers should be on their knees repenting for the way that they live. Bad storms have happened in many states with very sad results.....but this is the worst storm ever experienced in the the U.S.A. and to me it's a sign of the retribution for the way things have been going in our country.

Let this storm put the fear of God into our country to save ua.

LADY J , freerepublic 50 Comments [11/3/2012 5:49:50 AM]
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Quote# 89969

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA Will Move America to...

…Force Christian organizations to pay for abortions

…Force Christian schools to hire non-Christian teachers

…Force all states to permit same-sex “marriages”

…Force military chaplains to perform same-sex “marriages”

…Force doctors to assist homosexuals in buying surrogate babies

…Force employers to give illegal immigrants the jobs of U.S. citizens

…Force States to pay the college tuition of illegal immigrants’ children

…Force courts to accept Islamic Sharia Law in domestic disputes

…Force police agencies to allow Muslim brotherhood to select staff

…Force local authorities to allow Occupy protestors to live in parks

…Force creation of a permanent government funded “underclass”

This is the true agenda of Barack Hussein Obama,
the only President in history who has deliberately removed the words “endowed by their Creator” when referring to our Declaration of Independence, not once, but several times. Barack Hussein Obama believes human rights come from government, not from God, and that he as President can take those rights away for the “social good.”

Say NO to Barack Hussein Obama’s
vision for America on Election Day:
Tuesday, November 6, 2012

Government is Not God - PAC, gingpac.org 45 Comments [11/2/2012 3:15:45 PM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog

Quote# 90439

God is systematically destroying America. Just look at what has happened this year.

There was an incredible heatwave and drought that destroyed massive amounts of the crops. This drought has not let up and now covers about 65 percent of the country.

The drought triggered record forest fires in the West.

The East was not affected by the drought, but now the most powerful hurricane on record is heading directly towards Philadelphia and New York City. It could do catastrophic damage to the entire Northeast!

If you add the area of the drought and now the hurricane together, it would be about 80 percent of the country! As I said, the Holy God of Israel is systematically destroying America right before our eyes.

Just last August, Hurricane Isaac hit New Orleans seven years later, on the exact day of Hurricane Katrina. Both hit during the week of the homosexual event called Southern Decadence in New Orleans!

Hurricane Sandy is hitting 21 years to the day of the Perfect Storm of October 30, 1991. I write about this in my book as America Has Done to Israel. This was the day that President George Bush Sr. initiated the Madrid Peace Process to divide the land of Israel, including Jerusalem. America has been under God’s judgment since this event. Both of these hurricanes were cause by freakish weather patterns that came together to create

Twenty-one years breaks down to 7 x 3, which is a significant number with God. Three is perfection as the Godhead is three in one while seven is perfection.

It appears that God gave America 21 years to repent of interfering with His prophetic plan for Israel; however, it has gotten worse under all the presidents and especially Obama. Obama is 100 percent behind the Muslim Brotherhood which has vowed to destroy Israel and take Jerusalem. Both candidates are pro-homosexual and are behind the homosexual agenda. America is under political judgment and the church does not know it!

With all of this, there is almost zero repentance by the church: zero! The fear of God has disappeared from His people. The church in America is now EXACTLY like ancient Israel before the Babylonians destroyed them. Both ancient Israel and the modern American church completely lost the fear of God.

On blog talk radio, a handful of us have been crying out to the Lord in repentance and mercy on the land along with an outpouring of the Holy Spirit on us.

John McTernan, John McTernan's Insights 64 Comments [11/2/2012 5:22:27 AM]
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Submitted By: michael3ov

Quote# 90438

Wake up call to the blind. Muslims - whether the murdering martyr types seeking virgins in paradise or your friendly Pakistani convenience store clerk down the street - all have one common thread of absolute belief. That Mecca is the center of the universe and the stone in the Kaaba was placed there by Allah. No non-believer can get within 50K of either Mecca of Medina. One of the main motivating factors for Al Queda is that the corrupt House of Saud controls these two holiest of sites of Islam - the full official title of the King of Saudi Arabia is "The Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques". I believe that certain aspects of the Cold War strategy of mutual assured destruction be applied to our war on terror - and make no mistake this war, it isn't against rampaging Hindus or Budhists. If we could hold tens of millions of Russian residents of Moskow, Kiev, Stalingrad, or Leningrad (now St. Petersburg) hostage by the treat of nuclear weapons - why not Mecca and Medina? Just the threat might have the effect of marginalizing the radicals within the larger Muslim population. If not, and these crazies ever set off a WMD anywhere in the world, then put a 10MT thermonuclear device on top of the Kaaba in Mecca and Mohhammeds tomb in Medina. If Armageddon is the result, oh well - on one side we still have thousands of nuclear weapons with pin-point accuracy. I would then only have to worry about the Pakistani convenience store clerk down the street - but then again maybe not. I just wonder how many blind and brainwashed Muslims will "see the light" after the Kaaba is gone and Mecca and Medina are craters? And on the otherhand.... if the Kaaba still stands and those Mosques are left unscathed by a nuclear blast..... I'm gonna get a prayer rug and a prayer schedule with bearings facing Mecca from my location real fast. Hey, and if the idea of 4 wives don't go over with my current wife - well saying "I divorce you" three times is a whole lot simpler than lawyers, courts, alimony and custody settlements. Oh, and let's not forget those "perpetual" virgins in heaven. While martyrs get seventy, I'm sure there is a couple handed out for just saying Allah is great and Mohamamed was his messenger, praying five times a day, fasting for one month a year, giving alms, and doing a pilgrimage to Mecca-Medina. Yep, dust off those Minute Men missile silos - new mission in ths war on terror.

4kerry04, Strategy Page 42 Comments [11/2/2012 5:22:01 AM]
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Submitted By: michael3ov

Quote# 90436

First of all.... IF people would read their bibles.... Revelations to be exact, Jesus Christ himself does NOT know himself the hour and date of his return, nor the angels. Revelations also explains that certain events have to take place BEFORE his return, meaning we all need to read to see these events to know where we are at in Revelations. I don't believe in "Psychics, Tarot Cards, Palm readers" what I do believe is what the bible has already stated and what God himself shares with me. I do believe however that America IS asleep and needs to wake up. According to the bible, 2 will be chosen for election but there will also be a public figure that will rise up, then the anti christ. Are we in that time right now? Hard to say, although things seem to point that way. In the end days, God does talk about division among us. Already we are hearing how the Democrats are talking about if your Christian you need to bail now and leave. God is moving us around folks, he is getting us ready, moving us into position. Wars and rumors of wars are also stated in this book. Israel will NOT see peace until his return. If we sit here and put so much focus on the media and all this madness flying around we actually rob ourselves of what God has given us. We have taken our eyes off of him and not stood on our faith and our trust in him. Yes, these things are heartbreaking, yes when it does come down to who wins we will be faced with enduring what they have to offer us, but I say take heart, keep your spiritual eyes and ears open and stay focused on what God will have you focused on. "Satan will come like a thief in the night, a wolf in sheep's clothing...a coat of many colors" We all need to be watching and praying and continuing life as God intended. We are living in scary times folks, no question. Where is our faith? Where is our trust? God says, FEAR NOT! For I AM with you always! With much love from God and I to all of you! God Bless us all! :)

Avery Falk-Smith, Slacktivist 37 Comments [11/2/2012 5:19:03 AM]
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