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Quote# 88875

*after being asked where the necessary food for all the animals would be stored on Noah's Ark among other criticisms of the global flood in the bible*

A lot of you are disregarding the fact that God could've put the animals in a hibernating state so they didn't need to eat much, and God could've prevented the animals from eating each other.

LogiChristianity, NationStates 49 Comments [8/10/2012 4:14:41 AM]
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Submitted By: acebrock
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Quote# 88874

The pseudo-morality of the Left is a direct response to the moral challenge created by Christianity. The Christian message of redemption and inner peace is enormously powerful when it can be expressed clearly. The purpose of pseudo-morality is to create noise to cover up that powerful message:

“They talk about love but they hate gay people! We are so tolerant that we can’t even see a difference between random acts of sodomy and marital intimacy.”

“They talk about freedom but they want to enslave women! We want women to be free to choose no matter the cost to innocents.”

“They talk about joy but they want you to show self control! We want you to do whatever makes you happy, even if it involves your neighbor’s wife.

“They talk about personal responsibility but they are destroying the planet! We want to save the planet by making everyone live like cavemen.”

“They talk about wisdom but they don’t believe in science! We couch everything we say in scientific terms. We’re so smart!”

The Left mimics and distorts Christian morality in order to defeat Christianity. They substitute tolerance for love, self-indulgence for freedom, temporary pleasure for joy, government control for personal responsibility, and sophistry for wisdom.

It is sad how effective this strategy has been.

docrampage, John C. Wright's Journal 50 Comments [8/10/2012 4:14:30 AM]
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Submitted By: David
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Quote# 88871

[In response to: What evidence do you have that neonates are heterosexual?]
They are the composite of egg and sperm. This is heterosexual anyway you shake it. Start at the beginning. I'll leave you figure out this oh so simplicity.

kkll4ever, CARM 30 Comments [8/10/2012 4:13:22 AM]
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Quote# 88867

The rapture is imminent, even the first Christians were waiting expectantly for it.

Tall Timbers, Rapture Ready 64 Comments [8/10/2012 4:12:21 AM]
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Quote# 88864


I have come to view AGW alarmism as but another ‘religious’ cult, with its hallmark sign of promotion of fear and bondage. Its devotees, in their religious fervour, wish to enslave us all in their ‘worship’ of the false god of the environment.
It is the subversive agenda of this false religion that distinguishes it from true environmentalism. False religion engenders fear. Jesus asks us to have faith, including faith in God to oversee the natural realm. I am privileged to have experienced God’s miraculous, supernatural deliverance in times of crisis, in ways that, on occasion, have defied scientific explanation. Hence I have absolutely no doubt that He who created the natural laws can act outside those laws if He should choose to do so. Therefore I have complete faith that God in His omniscience and omnipotence is more than able to ‘save the planet’ if the need should arise. What we as Christians should guard against, however, is any complicity in the evil agenda of global domination, which the Holy Scriptures actually long ago foretold” ..

john byatt, Watching the Deniers 26 Comments [8/10/2012 4:12:08 AM]
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Quote# 88863

[Obama] is post-religious: he took his family to a church where the religion seemed to be America-hatred. There are no biblical echoes in his speeches, as there have been in the speeches of so many presidents, left and right, and such other American leaders as Martin Luther King. “Pandering to religious nuts” is the way PORGIs analyze such references. Another way to describe them is quintessentially American. We are, after all, a biblical republic. The idea of America– freedom, equality, democracy, and America as the promised land–grew straight out of the Bible. Obama is the first American president to put all that stuff behind him. As for American Zionism, American Exceptionalism, the city on a hill—it is one part of the American creed that Obama simply rejects.

David Gelernter, Powerline 27 Comments [8/10/2012 4:12:04 AM]
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Quote# 88857

Mr. Cathy has the right to his own beliefs, values and opinion when it comes to the issue of same sex marriage.
The self-serving, violent, hate-filled Gay Activists and their political supporters and organizations need to respect Mr. Cathy's personal freedoms and leave Chick-Fil-A alone. They are hypocrites to say the least.
Perhaps people and organizations who oppose same sex marriage should now start boycotting and publicly protesting against people, businesses. organizations and politicians who support same sex marriage.

rewaters53, Huffington Post 33 Comments [8/10/2012 4:11:51 AM]
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Quote# 88853

Dishonest is stating that matter can rise above itself in complexity. We know, by observing all of nature, that NOTHING rises above its source. All rivers flow away from a greater source. This is basic common sense science. It doesn't get more basic than this. No science has EVER demonstrated a plausible description of how life reverses information entropy with reproduction. We do, however, have a mind-boggling description of how it happened in Genesis. Missler does a brilliant job describing it.

EnochWasRight, Above Top Secret 55 Comments [8/9/2012 3:29:27 AM]
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Submitted By: J. James
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Quote# 88850

Deception-by-entertainment

Today's dramas and soaps are changing the outlook and behavior of society, but by dishonest means, as greed, self-esteem and immorality are portrayed as natural, reasonable and fulfilling. The phoney 'evidence' is far from the truth, the writers themselves frequently leading desperately painful, unhappy lives, strewn with the heartaches of broken relationships, addiction problems and sexually-transmitted diseases.

Meanwhile the rising generation is given the impression that 'normal society' has always been one dizzy round of promiscuity and perversion. Television fiction constantly promotes these 'anti-values', using characters designed to attract admiration and affection, especially from the young.

Atheism has certainly mastered the science of communication, but with ruthless deceitfulness and distortion. By this means alone it shapes the views of the masses, and captures society to its ways.

If atheism is so bad, how does it come to be so successful? How is it that shrewd minds do not see through it, and reject it? The answer is that atheism bribes its way into human hearts. It offers us almost any pleasure or liberty we want, however we want it and whenever we want it. It promises to give us the right to do what we like without having to face enquiry or judgement. It tells us that there is not reason why we need ever suffer another pang of conscience.

Such an offer is so attractive that we are ready to accept it without further enquiry into the credibility of atheism. Because we ourselves are sinners, atheism holds out to us a highly attractive formula for life. But there is a further ugly feature of atheism. It is, without doubt, the most cruel force in the world today, unleashing lust and violence on a scale impossible but for its influence.

Have we never wondered why there is so much more child abuse now than ever previously known? Some commentators (without the slightest evidence for what they say) claim that there has always been considerable abuse of children. It is true, of course, that all manner of vile sins have existed in society throughout history, but there is no doubt that in the last twenty years a phenomenal upsurge has taken place of the most unspeakable forms of filthiness and criminality, perpetrated particularly against children, and even by their own parents.

This is the age when the unborn child may be murdered at whim, and when growing children are frequently disregarded while parents tear their marriages asunder. Is it surprising that parental callousness should in may cases extend to the indecent abuse of children? Atheism has taught people to please themselves and to scorn the all-seeing eye of God. Is anything surprising?

Take away the existence, even the possibility of God from before people's eyes, and they will go from worse to worse, moving to levels of greed, lust, disloyalty, violence and bloodshed unseen in any previous society. This is the potential cruelty of atheism.

Dr. Peter Masters, Hope Protestant Reformed Church 57 Comments [8/9/2012 3:28:59 AM]
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Quote# 88846

In April of 1933, the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (Nazi Party) in Germany began a nationwide boycott of Jewish businesses; this occurred shortly after Adolf Hitler became chancellor of that nation. The official program of discrimination was the first of many measures with which most Americans of my generation are familiar, and which ended with the Holocaust.

In keeping with the uncannily Orwellian tack American liberals have taken, the war on Christianity that has been in progress for decades (in earnest for the last several years) was denied with such vigor that even some conservative pundits questioned its existence. Lately, however, outrageously discriminatory, blatantly hypocritical campaigns against individuals and businesses professing Christian values have been initiated by those on the left. These have made it obvious to all but the profoundly dull that a war on Christianity is indeed in progress.

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Considering the perilous position whereupon our economy currently teeters, President Obama’s dismal record and his administration’s quiet communist coup, I do believe there is a certain diversionary component to this chicken-chain debacle. As with much of the sycophantic press’ dubious reporting in general, their imperative of redirecting voters’ attention from Obama’s wretchedness as a president is painfully evident.

The advent of socialist totalitarianism – as evidenced by the incremental persecution of Christians and other recent events – is, without question, a far more serious matter than where chicken chain executives’ sentiments lie regarding homosexuality.

Arguments over homosexual unions, like so many contentious issues advanced by the left, are diversionary by nature, apart from their current implementation for this election cycle. This is because the goal here is absolute power, the primary objective to supplant God with government. To achieve this, religious doctrine must be eradicated, and the chief impediment to that is Christianity.

Leftists continue to carp about Republicans, Christians and conservatives in general wishing to oppress gays, disenfranchise minorities, deny women’s reproductive rights, outsource jobs, reduce wages and benefits, empower Wall Street and the rich and, of course, institute a Christian theocracy. These charges might have been amusing to conservatives 20 years ago, but now they illustrate that we are now witnessing the sifting of the evil, the dangerously deluded and the grotesquely stupid. While the dangerously deluded and the grotesquely stupid among liberals may be hapless pawns, it is the evil with whom we should be concerned.

Replacing normalcy with deviance and morality with immorality are simply methods toward disenfranchising Christians, resulting in the convenient byproduct of a populace that is governed by its basest instincts – and thus easily controlled. As we have seen, such populations become willing to tolerate – and even participate in – all manner of atrocities.

During the 2004 campaign season, I recall video of entertainer and celebrated fag hag* Chér telling a predominantly homosexual audience that George W. Bush would ship homosexuals off to death camps in cattle cars were he re-elected. I do know that this did not actually occur, but that vast numbers of European Jews did suffer that very fate once upon a time.

It began with a boycott of their businesses … and the rest is history.

Erik Rush, World Net Daily 40 Comments [8/9/2012 3:27:18 AM]
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Quote# 88834

M-Cat. You and I. We both know that faith drives results. The only greatness comes from our own faith. Atheists have no faith in intelligent design. They have no understanding in life and it's superior order. They have no respect for power and intelligence. How can they produce such works as those with much greater faith, which drives them to success. How can they produce anything other than failure. When they do not accept the life that gives them existence? You and I both know that atheism is a fad. Not a reality. Not something that can endure hardship. Not something that belongs to the soul of man. Anything else must surely be nothing more than a shallow lie. Non belief. How futile. But belief in what is good. How glorious. How can one fail that believes in good. How can one battle those that have such faith in such power. No match are they to those that do not believe. Believe in what? I speak of intelligence. Those that refuse intelligence shall be punished. Those that know and hold faith in what is true. They shall know what it means to experience glory. While the ignorance of atheism. I tell you with all my soul and being. It shall fail. It has already failed! Tune into the intelligence of peace and life. That which knows how and why it was created. Your soul knows so listen to it and you shall not perish with the dead that refuse and perish in their mistakes.

Mystic7, Dreamviews Forums 34 Comments [8/9/2012 3:19:10 AM]
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Quote# 88833

According to my definition Einstein was not atheist. A scientist maybe. But that isn't atheism. Atheism is not scientific. I'm not saying atheist are useless morons. But I am saying that no-body ever made history for very long being one. Because they just arn't that smart.

Sure you can gather together all the people who have being atheists. But I would argue that they didn't contribute anything that will allow them to be remembered for a very long time about anything that significant.

Mystic7, Dreamviews Forums 52 Comments [8/9/2012 3:18:56 AM]
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Quote# 88831

Homosexuals do not seek tolerance, they demand affirmation and favored status. Homosexual behavior leads to depression, drugs, disease and death. The life expectancy of a homosexual male is 20 years less than a heterosexual. I do not want to see people die prematurely so I speak up about the dangers of homosexual behavior. Is that hate, anon? I call it love.

Hate is your attitude toward Christians. Why do you hate God, anon? Do you feel that God slighted you in some way? Or is it that God repeatedly and explicitly condemns your behavior?

Oh, yes. I am a M.D. and professor of pharmacy. I believe you about your credentials and I believe that you chose your field in hopes you’d find evidence that your behavior can be explained by something other than a perverse heart.

Dr. Theo, Moonbattery 34 Comments [8/9/2012 3:18:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog
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Quote# 88829

Just more proof of what the ultimate intent of the 1964 [Civil Rights Act] was originally intended to do. Oh sure, there was some cool neato shit about blacks at a lunch counter. Yeah, we got the memo on that(check) and the after school specials Roots and The Color Purple and all that other gay ass shit, sure, but bottom line the 1964 CRA was a trojan horse.

Ever since the civil rights BULLSHIT, there has been no such thing as personal private property rights. Now the government uses the 1964 CRA as a battering ram to do whatever it wants all to defend 'the little guy' or Kunte Kinta or now some bleating queer.

IF you happen to be a landlord, you are now officially NO LONGER the owner of said property. No. You are now a partner with the federal government. They have guidelines against discrimination and if you cross them, you can be liable civilly and punitive action can be taken against you.

IF you are a business owner, you are now officially NO LONGER the owner of said business. No. You are now a partner(*ahem* SUBJECT) of the federal government. Through their state run organs of the EEOC they can tell you what you can and cannot do, who you can and cannot serve, who you can and cannot hire(quotas) and who you can and cannot fire(wrongful term/discrimination).

No more trauma has been done to our freedoms combined than this one law of emotive crap and it affects everything we do. There are no more personal property rights for those laws are all under subservience to the 1964 CRA.

Now the faggots want to use the same whiny banner to walk under. No surprise there. According to the 1964 CRA, these mayors are correct. They can ban Chic-Fil-A. They can probably file a class action. That is what the law was intended to do and that is what it was for. To control society at every level.

Wyatt Junker, Where Liberty Dwells 37 Comments [8/9/2012 3:15:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog
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Quote# 88826

Pennsylvania Rep. Mike Kelly (R), an ardent opponent of abortion rights, said that today's date would live in infamy alongside those two other historic occasions. Wednesday marked the day on which a controversial new requirement by the Department of Health and Human Services, which requires health insurance companies to cover contraceptive services for women, goes into effect.


"I know in your mind you can think of times when America was attacked. One is December 7th, that's Pearl Harbor day. The other is September 11th, and that's the day of the terrorist attack," Kelly said at a press conference on Capitol Hill. "I want you to remember August the 1st, 2012, the attack on our religious freedom. That is a day that will live in infamy, along with those other dates."

Mike Kelly, NBCNEWS.com 65 Comments [8/8/2012 4:21:23 AM]
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Quote# 88821

If atheism is true then despair and frustration are our inescapable lot. But the most painful of all is the notion that life has no meaning. To a man who truly grasps the idea that his life is meaningless this realization cannot but become a source of unceasing torment. To a perceptive unbeliever his existence must appear as some cruel cosmic joke that is very hard to bear.

If one is a cheerful atheist, it is only because he has either not thought his worldview through or he deceives himself regarding the inevitable implications of it. When once grasped for what it really is, atheism is nearly impossible to endure. Suicide would, indeed, seem as the most reasonable and logical solution to the meaninglessness of human existence. That's why Tolstoy wanted to kill himself. He experienced that suicidal urge, because he was an atheist who could see clearly the bleak hopelessness of his position.

After a long and agonizing struggle, Tolstoy finally overcame his despondency by finding transcendence in God. If you, too, happen to be an atheist in despair over the absurdness of life take heart. Your predicament can be easily remedied, since deep down you know that atheism is untrue. Even though you may declare yourself to be an atheist, you certainly do not live like one, because to live consistently in accordance with your profession is simply impossible.

Somewhere in your heart you know that life is not meaningless and that it does matter how we live. You know that there is good and evil and that there is a world of difference between a Mother Theresa and an Adolf Hitler. You know that love excels hate. You know it is better to be a good person than to be a bad one. It is, in fact, very likely that you yourself try every day to be the best person you can be and that you rejoice in your moral progress and regret your failings.

This knowledge and these intuitions are common to all sane men and they show atheism for the lie that it is. Atheism is the product of a stubborn and rebellious heart that is at war with itself. Every day the atheist denies his worldview by his own actions and way of life.

Thankfully, there is a simple solution to this contradiction. You need to stop denying the obvious and start believing what you already know is true. You are God's creature and you bear his divine stamp all over your being. To become whole, you need to accept and acknowledge Him who is the source of all life, goodness and meaning.

Vasko Kohlmayer, The Washington Times Communities 71 Comments [8/8/2012 4:20:40 AM]
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Quote# 88805

[In response to a judge calling DOMA unconstitutional under the 5th amendment]
The Supreme Law of the Land is the Constitution which supports the Laws of Nature.

Nothing as unnatural as homosexual sodomy acts-—can be redefined as a “Right” and “good”.

Reason and Logic has to be used in Just Law and homosexuality not only ejects Reason and Logic and biology—and redefines words to make them meaningless—it is the promotion of EVIL as GOOD. Sodomy is always a Vice and can not be promoted by Laws which by very definition in the Constitution, have to be JUST LAW.

Of course, these Marxist judges don’t believe in the Supreme Law of the Land and its Standard-—which is based on GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS-—not Satanic Rights from Barney Frank.

These “judges” should be impeached because they do not uphold their oath of office.

savagesusie, Free Republic 51 Comments [8/8/2012 3:19:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Sergeant343
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Quote# 88797

It is sad to think that people object good things in life. Chick-Fil-A is standing and trying to keep people out of hell. Somehow people don't get it that when it is in their best interest they just reject it. So sad !



James J, Amazon Religion Forum 52 Comments [8/7/2012 4:11:56 AM]
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Submitted By: Rachel
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Quote# 88796

I would be delighted to see the overthrow, perhaps with lynchings, of the teaching establishment, and the return of all their power into private hands. Public schooling, historically, was an attempt by the secular Protestant governments to remove the influence of the Catholic Church over the education of the young, which we have been doing successfully since before the Fall of Rome.

John C. Wright, John C. Wright's Journal 51 Comments [8/7/2012 4:11:28 AM]
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Quote# 88795

The 5 horsemen are the good guys. The US is the 4th Christian superpower to rule the earth for Jesus. It was founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse. Our weapons bring hell and death.

interpreter, Christian Forums 47 Comments [8/7/2012 4:11:07 AM]
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Submitted By: podkayne
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Quote# 88788

Gender-based Abortion - Abort the Males

Gender-based abortion continues to exist for females all around the world. This female gendercide is based on the notion that females are innately inferior, or socially unworthy and or lacking of the potential for profitable intake.

The abortion of females based on gender all around the world, and even in America, effectively exemplifies the fact that many women are still indoctrinated, and many men are still pushing misogynistic agendas, both politically and culturally. These things must end if we are ever to achieve True Equality.

Now, the U.S. House has rejected a bill which would preclude gender-based abortion if doctors were to come across information regarding the person’s intent for the abortion. And, while I am pro-choice, I feel that the purpose of this bill was slightly misguided. It should be revised and legalized, and I will explain the reasoning for this.

The bill should be revised to include only abortions against female fetuses. Meaning, anyone who seeks an abortion because the gender of their fetus is female should be barred from having said abortion, and perhaps even criminally punished, depending on which half of the party came to this conclusion, assuming there are two present halves, for said desire. And, any doctor who performs an abortion for someone who wishes to dispose of a fetus due to the gender being female should receive criminal punishment.

On the other hand, anyone who desires to abort a fetus based on the gender because the fetus is male should be excluded from the bill entirely. This should be allowed. It is justified because women have proven to be the most profitable sex. They outperform men academically and in the workplace, and this is a trend which will continue to rise. Likewise, women are the greater minority when it comes to the committing of violent acts and crime.

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Men, for many centuries, feared the education of women, and even stated that women were incapable of being educated, saying that they were “creatures of emotion without the ability to reason”. If this were the case, however, they would have at least tried to educate women to see if they had a potential for reasoning. They didn’t do this, because they feared that very potential. They knew all along that women could surpass them if they were given the opportunity, and they oppressed women for this very reason.

And, when women finally did achieve these opportunities, thanks to Patriarchal Manipulation for fear of a true awakening, women, overtime, did surpass men, are surpassing men, and will continue to surpass men until the true balance is overwhelmingly clear.

Save the females. Abort the males.

It is justified, it is necessary, and its premise is Undeniably True.

Thank you for your consideration!

Femitheist Divine, The New Era of Feminism 74 Comments [8/6/2012 5:20:17 PM]
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Quote# 88786

If you want the legal coverage of you being in a perverse relationship, then call it a union and ask for legal protections from the government.

But the fact that this is "not enough" for the activists proves it's not about the government providing the same "legal rights" but rather an attack on religion and God, trying to force their own false religion on the rest of us and trying to use the government to force and establish this false religion on society, passing laws to establish this false religion, to establish this false religious definition of marriage, all of which is a violation of the First Ammendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, which is exactly what they'd be doing if they pass laws forcing us to accept their new religion.

People do not have a "Constitutional right" to have the government force their religion of perverse desires on the rest of society and for government to establish this new religion.

You have legal rights via civil unions. That you demand the "right" for the government to make a new religion instead and make laws establishing it says it all and is the only true violation of the Constitution.

Reason2012, OneNewsNow 55 Comments [8/6/2012 5:19:49 PM]
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Quote# 88774

I also think calling them ‘the left’ is misleading — it is like referring to Republicans as conservatives when obviously they are not — but they have made it their practice to obscure any identification of themselves, so we are left without any word that defines them.

Who and what they really are is ‘the enemy.’ They are the enemy of man and God, of freedom and decency, of Western civilization and Christendom, and the enemies of logic and reality. They are the eternal rebels, but they are the victims of deception as deeply and as sadly as they are the practitioners of deceit.

John C. Wright, John C. Wright's Journal 44 Comments [8/6/2012 3:30:18 AM]
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Submitted By: David
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Quote# 88773

The reason most kykes are aetheist is because they beleive they are SUPERIOR TO GOD.

Hell is waiting.

VanDammeSSman, Stormfront 57 Comments [8/6/2012 3:29:57 AM]
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Quote# 88770

We have moved beyond palliation (negotiation, mediation, reform, compromise, engagement with the System) to exploring effective means of extirpating male pathology, including being open to biological explanations and treatment of such psychopathy. We are concerned with the overall structure of male oppression. We are open to going wherever the evidence and experience lead us.

In recent years, studies of male hormones and aggression, the development of the science of social dominance theory, primate studies, and genetics have begun in my opinion to take us very close to the etiology of the underlying sickness. This emphasis on looking at the pathology of male hormonal mechanisms is a new kind of “essentialism” that offers hope, because treatments can be developed to mitigate the death-drive of men, their hierarchical psychology, their insensitivity to the pain of living creatures, their pleasure in violence and intimidation, their acquisitiveness, their rape and phallic obsessions. It’s an exciting development, though the science involved it goes hand in hand with new dangers to women which must be resisted.

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My own personal vision is that women will cure the sickness that ails men and that men will stay around, hunkered in their man-caves playing the ukelele, leaving us in peace at last. As to what that cure may be, my best bet is that what’s wrong with men is that their androgens need genetic modification.

I’m serious about this. If we can do it with corn, men ought to be easy.

Vliet Tiptree, Radfem Hub 65 Comments [8/6/2012 3:28:48 AM]
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