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Quote# 89830

Aside from my own near-sightedness, astigmatisms and presbyopia, three family members have lost an eye – for a variety of unrelated reasons. Two of them wear prosthetic eyes. Yet everywhere I look, it is a two-eyed world. When was the last time you saw someone on television take out his prosthetic eye? My family started a campaign; you may have seen some of our bumper stickers: “Monoculars Unite!” “Blind is Good!” “End Binocular-Normativity!”

Textbooks should show more people with no eyes or one eye – why do they all assume people have two eyes? Kids with glasses get teased and called “four eyes.” Our national anthem is an insult – no, I can’t “see by the dawn’s early light” – until I fumble around and find my glasses. I spent a month protesting 20/20-vision-normativity by not wearing my glasses. After a couple car accidents, my wife made me put them on again. People with good vision don’t have to spend thousands of dollars over their lifetime for glasses, contacts, prosthetic eyes, LASIK, cataract surgery, seeing-eye dogs or learning braille. It’s just not fair.

Jeff Johnston, Citizenlink 55 Comments [9/30/2012 7:43:32 AM]
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Quote# 89821

[Some highlights from a F&FC voter registration survey]

Question #1: How do you rate Barack Obama's overall performance as President so far?

()Excellent ()Good ()Fair
()Poor ()Abysmal ()Undecided
()I consider him an enemy of liberty and the values that built our great nation.

Question #9: What do you think is President Obama's true political ideology?
()Mostly Conservative ()Moderate ()Mostly Liberal
()Far-Left ()Socialist ()Communist
()Fascist ()Not Sure
()Other_____________________________

Question #10:How much danger do you think liberty is in right now as a result of President Obama's policies, actions and agenda for America's future? (Mark as many answers as you think appropriate.)
()More serious than the threats we faced in World War II from Nazi Germany and the Japanese because the attack on liberty today is from our own government.
()More serious than the threat we faced from the Soviet Union during the Cold War.
()More serious than the American Civil War.
()All of the above.
()Serious, but not as serious as the threats to liberty listed above.
()President Obama is not a threat to liberty.
()Undecided ()Other_________________________


Faith and Freedom Coalition, Mother Jones 43 Comments [9/29/2012 5:26:31 AM]
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Submitted By: Zagen30
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Quote# 89820

As another poster, I would go furthur and say the divorced woman or single, promiscuous woman should get nothing. Her life as a single mother should be hard. So hard, that other people see her as an object lesson for why children without a father is foolish and very undesirable. Every time we subsidize a single parent, we show other people that single parent-hood isn’t all that bad, what with all the help you will get. Yes, the reality may be that even with government assistance, it is difficult. But other people have their perception of reality, not reality itself.
I think it is better to do what will prevent 10 new children being created for life in a deficient home than help the 1 child already there. I agree that is hard, but I do not have limitless resources.

Widows and orphans are a different case; in those cases there was a father, and he was removed by death, not selfishness.

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“Simple fact is never trust a woman. … It’s a simple strategy that every man should adopt.”

Very distrustful view… and I regret to say it, but one that seems partly true, at least financially. It is interesting to me that when God set up the economic system in Israel (about 1500 B.C.), women were not permitted to inherit the family land/farm, except in the case where there were 0 sons. ALL property of the father went to his sons. If he has 1 son and 10 daughters, the 1 son gets everything. And no, the farm was not divided if his marriage ended. Farm goes to sons, ex-wife gets… well, as far as I can tell, zilch. Which brings the point that, in order to continue to receive the benefits of marriage (home, food, clothing), the female had to remain a wife. Thus, a man did not have to trust his wife to not divorce him — she had the financial, daily motivation to remain with him.

But don’t expect agreement if you ask a church woman today to agree to a pre-nup, even when it is stated that this is to strengthen the marriage bond and conform to the Bible she claims to follow.

Dale, The Spearhead 49 Comments [9/29/2012 5:25:58 AM]
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Quote# 89818

Daly: Tony, as we look at the mandate in the Bible to vote there is so much there and the Founding Fathers again were brilliant in understanding God’s design for things and the Scripture is pretty clear and really the Founding Fathers in creating a Republic based it on their biblical understanding of God’s ordination of government, didn’t they?

Evans: Absolutely, they went right to Exodus 18, how Israel was organized as a representative government, and used that as a pattern for the government of the United States. The principles and the freedom which dominates the uniqueness of the United States is drawn right from Scripture, in fact freedom started with God in the Garden, ‘from every tree of the Garden you may freely eat,’ there was broad freedom, limited regulations and dire consequences, that’s how government is supposed to work, so whenever government gets too big it gets unbiblical.

Tony Evans, Right Wing Watch 37 Comments [9/29/2012 4:38:03 AM]
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Submitted By: Zagen30
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Quote# 89810

We decided to adopt carrot and doughnuts for our symbol- for our sex symbols around here, maybe a visual reminder to all of us. You know, people say "where do you stand on homosexuality?" It's just, here's my stance on it:

God never, never created us men to sword-fight and didn't, didn't create, didn't create women for pastry parties either and so um, and uh-

Don't act holy in this place you, you'll be, you'll be on the outside looking in, and uh, so yeah. Just re- just remember because you're teenagers; you're not sure which way's up right now. Dudes don't sword-fight, alright? Just remember that, you'll be fine! There's a perfect doughnut waiting for you out there one of these days- with sprinkles...

Heath Mooneyham, Ignitechurch.tv (via YouTube) 95 Comments [9/28/2012 3:52:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Missouri1988
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So wait, is he saying...

Quote# 89809

Women should be banned from all activities that encourage homosexuality including combat, sports, and dominant positions in the workforce. Can you really expect to live in a society without lesbians when you allow and sometimes even encourage women act like men?

applepie27, Stormfront 49 Comments [9/28/2012 3:50:51 AM]
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Quote# 89808

Women are physically incapable of doing any type of job that requires a man's strength which means I disagree with this decision [to have women in combat]. The first duty of a woman is to be a homemaker but I don't mind if they work a job they are capable of doing. (Although once you have kids, you gotta stop working then raise the kids until they're about 14 or 15, I guess. Maybe a little younger)

WhitePrideNY14, Stormfront 48 Comments [9/28/2012 3:50:03 AM]
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Quote# 89801

Hell's minions [Muslims] don't give a shit about innocence and helplessness. The innocent and the helpless are the only ones that those cowardly pig-phuckers dare to attack.

It is my fervent wish that the world will be rid of the infection of Islam by means of every barbarian muzzie dying in protracted, unrelievable agony from the aftermath of the nuclear sterilization of that vile disease.

Here's your 12th imam, you camels' recta with legs. See the light!

DoctorDoom, Where Liberty Dwells 33 Comments [9/28/2012 3:46:23 AM]
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Quote# 89799

I think this is the time!! The ME is inflamed and tensions are at an all time high. Iran's trek towards a nuke proceeds undaunted. I read an article today that said Hockeduponmydinnerjacket's term as president ends in 2013. He truly believes that he is divinely appointed to help bring forth the 12th Imam and appears to take that extremely seriously. Add to that the rumor of war between the two Korea's, China and Japan, tons of military hardware in the Persian gulf, and the "generation" that saw the rebirth of Israel well in their seventies. The world is clamoring for a world leader, the global economy appears to be practically on the verge of coming to fruition, likely brought about by a worldwide economic collapse. People all over the world are clamoring for a one world government and Israel stands alone. WOW!!! And that doesn't include the many earthquakes and other signs in nature we were told to look for. We all gave a sense that we're going home and things of this world become dimmer by the day. Most around the world appear to going about life business as usual as apostasy in churches escalates and deception grows exponentially. Off the charts violence, increasing interest in secular humanism, rampant homosexuality, and a complete turning upside down of right versus wrong. The world is ripe to be turned over to the AC after the rapture. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is being preached throughout the world like never before and technology is set for the MOTB. It's here and we're going home very soon!!!! Maranatha!!! Come Lord Jesus!!!!!

vbf, rapture ready 50 Comments [9/28/2012 3:39:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony
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Quote# 89792

Is there really such a thing as an utterly authentic atheist? I think so. I have a dreadful feeling that there exists a sort of human sub-species who have lost their spiritual capacity completely. These authentic atheists do not profess belief in God, nor even disbelief. Instead they seem entirely deaf to such ideas. They do not hate the Church or say the Bible is a fairy tale. They do not spit out bigoted remarks that blame the Pope for the holocaust or missionaries for murder. They do not attack the arguments for the existence of God, say the universe is random, or call Rick Warren a simpleton. They do not rage against God, any more than someone born blind has dreams in color. These are the authentic atheists. They plod through life eating, working, shopping, breeding and sleeping, and God never seems to flit across their consciousness. Members of this sub-species may be sparkling sophisticates or ill-bred boors. They may be the decent and moral folks next door, or they could be despicable murderers. In a frightful way, it doesn’t matter. If they exist, perhaps they have bred and spread like the alien bodysnatchers, and exist in our midst like spiritual zombies—indistinguishable in the teeming mass of humanity except to those few who see them and tremble.

Dwight Longenecker , Pharyngula 62 Comments [9/27/2012 3:34:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Tolpuddle Martyr
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Quote# 89789

Appealing to authority is only fallacious when that to which one appeals has no legitimate authority. Everyone--include Bill Nye--everyone appeals to authority. Nye, and atheists like him, appeals to creation and his own fallible mind. I appeal to the Creator and His infallible Word.

And the fight is over before it begins.

With the above in mind, I will not offer up any pieces of evidence to refute Nye's claims against God and creationism. Everyone looks at the same evidence. The issue is not one of evidence, but rather one of worldview. The atheistic evolutionist interprets the evidence for the glory of self and to perpetrate a sinful denial of God. The Christian interprets the evidence for the glory of God. It's that simple.

Oh, I will slap him around a bit for some of the social truth claims he makes based entirely on conjecture. But I won't argue with him regarding the existence of God the Creator. To do so, to present evidences for the existence of God is, on some level, to assert that God needs to be proven. It is to give legitimacy to the blasphemous notion that God can be put on trial--that convicted criminals (sinners) have the right to cross examine the Judge.

I believe to entertain and engage unbelievers on this level not only fuels and encourages the unbelievers' sinfulness, but it is also a blasphemous exchange on the part of God's proponent. That's right. To allow an unbeliever to put God on trial by participating in such a kangaroo court, even as a well-intentioned and loving defense attorney, is to participate in the unbeliever's blasphemy. And by aiding and abetting such blasphemy, the Christian takes part in the blasphemy and is, therefore, guilty of the same.

In God's Courtroom there is no right against self-incrimination. There is no protection of presumed innocence. There is no right to present an affirmative defense. There is no legal right to object to the Judge's findings and rulings. There can be no motion to have the Judge recuse Himself from the case. In fact, in God's Courtroom there are no trials. There are only days of sentencing.

Tony Miano , Cross Encounters 85 Comments [9/27/2012 3:30:02 AM]
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Quote# 89786

I disagree with you.

We must love God, but we must also fear (respect) Him.

Women might love their husbands, but they have no fear of (respect for) them. The law neuters mens’ ability to maintain order in their own households. Preferably a man keeps order by inspiring love and obedience; if this does not work, I see no reason why he should not be able to use coercion just to the point of regaining control of the situation and his wife’s respect.

sunshinemary, Dalrock 51 Comments [9/27/2012 3:28:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Balthazar The Wise
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Quote# 89780

"Having kids at those times would have destroyed my life."

Heh… Very few professions destroy a woman’s attractiveness to men more than becoming a lawyer.

Seriously. By choosing to become a lawyer, a woman is effectively reducing her husband prospects by 80% or more…

1) Men have good reason to be afraid of marrying (or even dating) a female lawyer.
2) Being a lawyer engenders women with personality traits that men find repulsive (even though a male lawyer clearly does become attractive to women).
3) Being a lawyer uses up a woman’s 20s, so her peak years are gone before she knows it.

TFH, The Spearhead 42 Comments [9/27/2012 3:26:07 AM]
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Quote# 89778

n a responsum to a reader published on Sunday in the ultra-Orthodox daily newspaper Yated Ne’eman, Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky said that “it is forbidden to be in possession of [an iPhone], and one must burn it”; this despite the fact that the reader, a business-owner, said it was “crucial for [his] dealings.”

And lest a contrite Jewish smartphone owner think to hawk his device on eBay and pocket the cash, Kanievsky also warned that it is forbidden to sell the phone to a non-Jew, “just as it is forbidden to sell a weapon to a non-Jew.”




Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky, The Times Of Israel 36 Comments [9/27/2012 3:25:34 AM]
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Quote# 89776

I am so disgusted with Barry Soteoro, beyond mere words. He's a phantom that has a very dark kingdom's power working in and through him...no doubt in my spirit about that fact. But this is the hard pill to swallow...my once beloved country must be sooooo very evil and fallen that we inherited this wicked leader to take this land into the most wretched time ever. Because no one will debate that our God is Omnipotent and nothing...I repeat nothing happens without His Permission. And leaders are only in positions of power because our God allows it. So, let's see...we have a man who's real name is Barry Soteoro but decided to go by an openly Islamic sounding name "Barack Hussein Obama" and has the crust to not allow his background to be viewed after all the outcry to see who he really is. Wow...just think about that!!! We went through the horrors of 9/11 and now have a President who sympathizes with Islam over any other religion. So, do we deserve this imposter? Or are we an innocent nation that is a victim of circumstances? Instead of bellyaching about this demonically inspired man...why not really get serious about the real weapons of our warfare??? The devil and his demons hate when the Saints get to praying...real praying. The devil knows that prayer is the only effective weapon we can use against him...but we're neutralized and caught up in the physical world. Get mad enough to pray without ceasing! Where are the real men of God, that can call the people to corporate prayer. We're such a toothless church against the devil's schemes. It's sad.

JewishbyChoice, rapture ready 33 Comments [9/27/2012 3:02:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony
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Quote# 89774

As for the other question. What will happen to the children during the tribulation? Don't let the bible scholars or any other modern day Pharisee deceive you. Children do not come with an "auto-save feature". There is no age of accountability. If this were so then Christian parents would do well by sacrificing their children before they reach that age, thereby securing their eternal salvation. Not a bad little gift for juniors last birthday. The reality is that God doesn't work that way. When you die your spirit goes back to the Lord, regardless of what age you are. There is nowhere else to go. It's one side of the gulf or the other, no middle ground. The spirit of a child does not return to the Lord in child form but in the exact same way it left God's presence when you were conceived. God knew what you were like before you were even born. God can love or hate a child even before it comes out of the womb. He does not love every child. What happened to the children of Sodom and Gomorrah? Did He take them out with Lot before He poured fire down on them? What happened to the children of Noah's day? Did He squeeze them in kiddie land section of the ark? When He told the Isrealites to conquer a city and spare no one did He say except the children? The same fate awaits the children of the tribulation hour. Imagine a Heaven where millions or billions of children's spirits are present that hate God and His ways. What kind of Paradise would that be?

Equation7, End Times Round Table 45 Comments [9/27/2012 3:01:48 AM]
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Submitted By: Majingojira
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Quote# 89773

[A psychologist, criticizing Tzvi Fishman's anti-masturbation writings, asks, "Can you please answer a simply question, how many people do you know who's teeth have fallen out because they masturbate regularly?"]

Yes, I know many people who have false teeth and dentures. I also am perfectly comfortable with the Rambam's explanation that it is due to sexual transgression.

As far as your theory: 'Actually in my experience it is the religious guilt regarding sexuality that causes turmoil rather than the sexuality itself," Freud said the same thing. Not only did his teeth fall out, he developed cancer of the mouth, G-d forbid, had to undergo some 30 painful operations, and finally asked his doctor to administer a lethal dose of morphine to put him out of his pain.

Nothing positive will come out of letting people think that masturbation and other sexual transgression is a small matter. In his book, “Orot HaTshuva,” Rabbi Kook explains that the sufferings of anxiety and depression that many people feel (what you call religious guilt) are the sufferings of the soul which is afflicted with sin, cutting the person off from G-d and alienating him from the harmony of existence.

In the case of masturbation, Kabbalists explain this torment as deriving from destructive spiritual forces (kelipot) caused by the sin, which attach themselves to a person and plague him like a radioactive cloud.

Tzvi Fishman, Jewish Sexuality 47 Comments [9/27/2012 3:01:19 AM]
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Quote# 89771

Women are not men with a different shape. Women are different from men. They don't think like us at all. We men have more in common with male chimpanzees than we do with women. Women cannot conceive original ideas, aren't capable of independent thought, are not self-aware, and have no sense of fairness. This isn't to say that women can't be good. Women can be good, but in a different way from men. Women are good when they are guided to form the right emotional connections. And this happens when men form a society that causes this to happen. Of course this can't happen in societies where women vote. If you feel a strong compulsion for equality, I suggest you redirect it to other male primates. I would much rather have male chimps vote than women.

fschmidt, Love-Shy 82 Comments [9/27/2012 3:00:37 AM]
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Quote# 89767

Lawrence v. Texas was a 5-4 decision and that's the one that gave the whole foundation for gay marriage because the court there said "look, here's the new deal: if it's consensual, it's constitutional."

Really?

So if an eleven year-old girl says she wants to have sex with a ninety-five year-old guy and they both consent, that's constitutional?

Now wait a minute; if five guys want to marry one girl and they consent, that's constitutional?

So what happened is that decision was a 5-4 decision that has opened the door to what we're seeing now not only with gay marriage but with what they're calling polyamorous marriages and open marriages and so many other things because the premise is that if everybody agrees, it's fine. And that's a wild decision.

David Barton, Right Wing Watch 50 Comments [9/27/2012 2:59:24 AM]
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Quote# 89759

When kids believe in Santa Claus there’s a naughty and nice list. Does one child get to declare I don’t believe in Santa therefore I get a gift from Santa no matter what I do, while the other child plays by the rules to get a gift from Santa? Usually the non-believing child no longer gets a gift from Santa but from mom and dad.

Marriage is a gift from God and we believers live under His law, if you don’t believe and live by Gods law, why should you get a gift of God that is for His believers? Have a civil union that isn’t a gift from God but a gift of mans law.

Does a Mathematician rant and rave and go ape-chit offended with a book containing words because it is not all numbers? Atheists and homosexuals just want to snatch the lolly from another. Miserable Nellie Olesons...the lot of them!

Irenic, Free Republic 77 Comments [9/26/2012 2:50:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog
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Quote# 89749

America was brought into being by people who put their lives, property and money (everything they had) to promote liberty. Liberty is the hope of all people who aspire to to being free from the rule, often called governance, of the blue bloods who seek to enslave all common people. Liberty entails personal responsibility. which sitting on your ass and believing someone else owes you a living is about as obsene as the POPE cursing at mass. The blue bloods promote this false belief to enable their success. The liberal population of America is not deserving of the blood sacrifice that has been made for them by real Americans. That strata of population needs to go somewhere else to live or be exterminated. Mitt Romney, is actually speaking truth here, which sit on your ass peiple who call themselves Americans don't want to hear. Treason is not a constitutional right. Get real or die.

Windeagle63, Slacktivist 56 Comments [9/26/2012 2:46:19 AM]
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Quote# 89748

Obama rainbow flag design

The Obama rainbow flag has nine stripes instead of the original thirteen. The five red stripes are streaks, like red paint. Or maybe blood. Jim Hoft at Gateway Pundit said early this morning that the five red stripes look a lot like bloodstains. In fact Hoft compared them to the blood streaks that at least one American left on the wall of the US Consulate in Benghazi before he died there.

The four white stripes are not so much stripes as spaces between stripes. Again that evokes the streaks that a wounded man might make on a wall with his spread-out fingers.

The flag’s union (upper left-hand corner) has the worst change. The fifty stars on a blue field are missing. In their place is a light cyan capital O with a rainbow running along the bottom—the official logo of the Obama campaign.

Barack Obama does not even try to disavow the Obama rainbow flag. Three years ago, someone designed the Obama face flag, having seven red and six white stripes, with Obama’s face for a union. It sold on eBay until eBay administration de-listed it. But on March 14, 2012, the Democratic Party office in Leesburg, Florida, flew an Obama face flag beneath a proper US flag. A local veteran reminded the party leader sharply that the Obama face flag breaks the US Flag Code. The office took the flag down.

In contrast, Barack Obama offers the Obama rainbow flag for sale from the campaign’s online store. Price: $35. (CNAV will not link to the site. CNAV has a policy against handing out free advertising.) Todd Starnes, at Fox Radio, describes a second print, showing the Obama rainbow flag inside the outline of the continental USA.

The official title of the Obama rainbow flag: “Our stripes.” That is yet another mistake. Stripes are a symbol of struggle, and often of political punishment. So “Our stripes” could mean “Our struggle.” Or in German, Unser Kampf. Think how close that is to Mein Kampf.

Terry A. Hurlbut, Conservative News and Views 52 Comments [9/26/2012 2:45:40 AM]
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Submitted By: UHM
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Quote# 89743

You can't force people to bow down to your faith and belief systems of sickness, fear, disease and death or charge them money and imprison them if they don't, just because they believe in a Higher more powerful and Loving Eternal, Omnipotent, Omnipressent God that has All power over All of your false gods, blasphemies and idolatries you worship, Obama. God will stop you! Jesus the living Christ, God and The Holy Spirit power of God, which cannot be removed, is in and around us in the light, sun, air, water, sun, solar flare and substance, is our physician and you cannot force us to bow down to your idolatry, blasphemies and false gods Obama-nation king of babylon, your fire will not burn us as tried in Daniel 3, but your own fire shall be on yourself with the fire of Our God, The Righteous and pure Man's collective conscience against mortality, disease, greed, exploitation of wages, homosexuals, murderers, wars and death. The righteous and pure has removed the daily sacrifice and Obama has set up the Obamanation of dessolation.

mark_p93561, CNN Money 64 Comments [9/25/2012 3:52:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Dark_Lord_Prime
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Quote# 89742

[on the Wikipedia entry, Existence of God]

I'd like to suggest an additional notion and this is that Atheist are by definition not credible toward a discussion of God because they have already left the idea more or less totally! Thus, they don't care if the definition of God looks this or that way. ALL they care for, is to see it removed for good, hence the continuous attacks on Scientology that is a far more tolerant religious system, but is a religion under constant attacks by "nuts", founded in this lunacy or that!

LFOlsnes-Lea, Wikipedia 26 Comments [9/25/2012 3:52:13 AM]
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Submitted By: afs189
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Quote# 89738

"Actually, the existance of God has been proven, by the lack of evidence that he does not exist. Science falls flat on it's face trying to disprove God. It's not guilty until proven innocent, it's innocent until proven guilty. Therefore the burden of proof MUST lie with the atheist."

M. Cat, amazon.com customer review 57 Comments [9/25/2012 3:43:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Todd Pence
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