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Quote# 119365

It was almost midnight in Thailand, and Paul Salo said he had not slept in days — too busy telling reporters about a contentious and costly new venture to reconstruct the 9/11 terrorist attacks and put people’s questions to rest.?“There’s a serious doubting crowd out there,” he said in a weak and raspy voice. “In this day and age, people want to see what happens.”?Salo, a 51-year-old American expat living in Bangkok, has launched the “9/11 Redux” project to raise $1.5 million to purchase a fully loaded airplane similar to a Boeing 757 or Boeing 767 and a building as comparable as possible to the World Trade Center — and then fly the aircraft into the structure at about 500 mph.

Paul Salo, Washington Post 5 Comments [5/31/2016 3:16:53 AM]
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Quote# 119352

[Spain's ambassador to Venezuela recalled in diplomatic spat after Spain calls for release of political prisoners in Venezuela]

Yes, unfortunately, Spain now has a right wing government that is denying rights to its populace, restricting free speech and limiting demonstrations. I'm not surprised that Maduro wouldn't want any more scumbag Fascists in his country than those that are already there. He did deport a bunch of US AID and CIA Thugs last week though. Were any of your co-workers in the group?

Gradually, Maduro will rid himself of all the scum if he wants his government to survive. He will and it will. Not only that, the Bolivarian Movement will continue to grow and spread.

As for your list, there is only one country on that list that matters and that is the US. We determine the foreign policy for the UK and Colombia in all matters that concern us. Canada now has it's own Fascist Government and we've addressed Spain above.

So what we have is the US, two of its prime surrogates and two other quasi-Fascist States that are supporting the US efforts to undermine Venezuela. That makes sense. If Netanyahu and Obama got along better, Israel would be withdrawing their ambassador too!

BradBenson, The Guardian 5 Comments [5/30/2016 5:43:39 AM]
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Quote# 119347

The Illuminati delivered once again with the opening of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, and this time the symbolism was very overt. What we saw were references to the Eye of Providence, the sun, and sacrilegious ideology. Unlike the original trilogy and tepid prequels, "The Force Awakens" takes on a more satanic aura which indicates that the Illuminati has definitely progressed to a new level of brainwash and could be maneuvering for its world takeover very soon.

As for symbols,we'll start with the most overt one and that is Starkiller Base. This is the planet-sized weapon we see in the film. According to the story, it is many times larger than the Death Star and is capable of destroying multiple planets with a single shot from its primary armament. Starkiller Base also resembles a giant eye with red pupil. This is a direct reference to the Eye of Providence and continues the theme of red eyes being associated with apocalyptic stories (Think the "Terminator" and "Matrix" series). A red eye is very appropriate for "The Force Awakens" because the one time we see Starkiller Base fire, it wipes out several worlds killing billions of people, which makes it an apocalyptic weapon.

The next reference is sun-related. In order to fire, Starkiller Base has to harness the energy from a star. Once the star is completely drained, the weapon can then be fired unleashing solar energy in a highly destructive manner. The fact that the film goes takes great effort to show audiences that a weapon resembling the Eye of Providence gains its energy from the sun is frightening to say the least. This is an embedded message that the Illuminati wants us to see. The order is saying that its takeover will utilize solar weapons. These could include microwave beams fired from satellites in orbit or fusion missiles. Either way, it's a message.

The third symbol has more to do with Satanism and the downfall of Christianity. In this case, we are referring to Kylo Ren's light saber, which resembles a red cross. Given that it's used by one of the most heinous villains in the Star Wars Universe, we see it as the Illuminati telling us that it's winning the struggle for the control of our minds.

Bruce, Illuminati Watchdog 6 Comments [5/30/2016 5:14:44 AM]
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Quote# 119344

The Ku Klux Klan is an occult organization, linked with Freemasonry, which is intended to demonize Americans who still believe in the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, Patriotism, the Word of God, and Christianity. A view of the KKK's "Platform" on their website shows that they are against abortion, against homosexuality, against foreign aid for other nations, they want U.S. borders guarded, the public school system overhauled, the Federal Reserve Bank abolished, et cetera. These are all good things, and certainly America needs them to happen; however, the intent of the secret KKK group is to discredit those in America, mainly Christians, who believe such things. The KKK, with their unbiblical hatred for Blacks and Jews, is well-known as a hate group, and despised by most Americans. It couldn't be more obvious to any thinking person, that the KKK is a New World Order organization, whose goal is to demonize Patriots and Christians.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 8 Comments [5/30/2016 5:12:18 AM]
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Quote# 119342

Look at this video. Chemtrails are the reason for all the unusual weather we’ve been having lately. I live on the East Coast but I’m sure any one of you has seen these crisscrossing trails in the sky in your locality. You probably also saw how silvery the sky looks in the mornings, and how the sun looks like it’s dimmer and clouded over. This is because the powers that be are using “geoengineering” to control the weather! Don’t brush me off, you know it’s the truth!

I can’t help but think that since the earth is already under God’s curse and over the thousands of years that humans have been alive, that since we are sinners, we will do anything to corrupt and ruin everything that God made. Pollution is just a minor cause of the weird weather; try looking up “chemtrails,” the HAARP in Alaska or any other such weather modifications.

GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX!! Fact is, the weather is being purposely changed so that millions of people will die and the Illuminists will get their satanic wish for global (or rather, world) depopulation.

kingjameswriter1965, I Hate The Internet But I Love Jesus 5 Comments [5/30/2016 5:12:01 AM]
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Quote# 119341

[Commenter]
Bottom line QUIT TAKING THESE POISONOUS PRESCRIPTION DRUGS!!! They do more harm than good. I speak from experience. I am going against my doctor and will take myself off the medication I’m currently on. Tried talking to my doctor and it was like talking to a brick wall. Don’t tell me that only a prescription drug made in a factory can prevent or treat blood clots, that is BS!! The doctors are in this business to MAKE MONEY! They don’t really care about your health. They can’t benefit from the natural medication so therefore they will be against it. Change your diet, more water, exercise, eliminate the sweets, soda pop, fried foods (at least in moderation and always balance with fruits & veggies). You should be A-OK. Quit taking these doctors word as law, they are not God, and many of you would eat dog dookie if your doctor would prescribe it to you.

James, The Science of Eating 8 Comments [5/30/2016 5:11:11 AM]
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Quote# 119321

Alex Jones is continuing to escalate his feud with Glenn Beck, as the two far-right conspiracy theorists have repeatedly mocked and criticized one another as maniacal and insane.

In a video clip posted yesterday, Jones suggested that Beck is a “marionette” who is being controlled by “spiritual slave masters,” adding that he has cried on air over Beck’s actions “because when you see a Judas Iscariot tarot card, an archetype, when you actually see Judas Iscariot in the modern world, a true Benedict Arnold, and just the spirit of deception and true manifest evil, it’s very painful.”

“He is a very evil person,” Jones said. “Very evil.”

Jones particularly took issue with how Beck acted during a meeting between conservative activists and Facebook executives, including Mark Zuckerberg, after allegations surfaced that the social media giant suppressed posts from conservative outlets.

“Like a rat leaving a sinking ship, he’s scurrying into the arms of Zuckerberg, who just is the very vision of a vampire,” Jones said of Beck. “We can put a photo of him up. Not just the giant canine teeth, the psycho eyes. You can look at him and see an evil that may rival Beck’s. Look at Hillary. These are monsters.”

Progressives like Zuckerberg and Clinton, Jones explained, are using people like Beck to lead a “false opposition” in order to usher in a one-world government and destroy humanity.

“Where we’re going,” he warned. “Is a place like hell on earth.”

Jones added: “Beck is the government, Beck is the Democratic Party, Beck has always been Zuckerberg’s buddy, they’ve always been this snickering, evil team. He is a narcissistic, power-mad Satanist in my view…. The guy is literally such a predator. He looks like a serial killer. My cells cry out against him.”

Alex Jones, Right Wing Watch 5 Comments [5/29/2016 7:29:46 PM]
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Quote# 119248

Trump taking his elitist reptilian nuttsak and spread it on killary face. the face smear campaign killary wants to drown the people in the propaganda machine stimulated by rockefeller in 1935 he dont have none of it he say he can make country great agin and we all believe sheeple fall right in line,. trump is reptilian i saw it in his eyes just look when he talks the creases there plain to see we just pick too sides of same coin killary or elititst arch-reptilien trump.

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 14 Comments [5/26/2016 2:29:03 PM]
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Quote# 119245

The only similarities between Mary Queen of Scots and Princess Diana is the fact that they both died violent deaths and they were both very tall. Mary Queen of Scots was a scheming intriguer who killed her own husband. When news reached Mary of the horrible Saint Bartholomew's Day Massacre, she stayed up all night celebrating.

Lady Diana Spencer's main ambition in life was to marry a loving, faithful husband, and have at least 4 children. Mary was the mother of James, who succeeded Elizabeth II as king of England. Diana's son William is now being groomed to succeed Queen Elizabeth II.

Queen Elizabeth I signed the death warrant for Mary Queen of Scots.

The Way Ahead Group (WAG), chaired by Queen Elizabeth II, gave the green light for the assassination of Princess Diana.

To many people, Mary was unjustly condemned and became an instant martyr for the Papal Church. There was a worldwide outpouring of grief at the death of Diana and most people believe that it was no accident.

It is amazing how the psychopathic conspirators always look to the past for their inspiration. The Kennedy assassination was supposed to be an exact duplicate of the Lincoln assassination. After shooting President Lincoln, "John Wilkes Booth" fled from a theater and then was killed in a warehouse.

After shooting President Kennedy, "Lee Harvey Oswald" fled from a warehouse and then entered a theater . . . where he was supposed to be killed.

Nothing in the past can ever be duplicated exactly but that doesn't stop the conspirators from trying.

Shake-speare's long reign came to an end in 1603.

The man who succeeded her, James VI of Scotland, was the son of Mary Queen of Scots and David Rizzio.

James was the first of the disastrous Stuart dynasty to rule over England.

Why England chose James as king is beyond belief. He blamed the "Protestant" British for her beheading and he was thirsting for revenge for what he considered the death of his innocent mother.

James was the son of Mary Queen of Scots and David Riccio!!

Pope Paul III–the real father of David Rizzio–was one of the most fanatical Popes that ever lived. In 1540, he formally recognized the Society of Jesus (Jesuits).

In 1545, he convened the Council of Trent which condemned every translation of the Bible except the corrupt Latin Vulgate Version. That council also condemned every marriage not made by a Latin Church priest.

Fanatical crusader Pope Paul III was the father of the Counter-Reformation.

He was also the father of David Riccio–the lover of Mary Queen of Scots–and father of King James.

In 1540, he formally recognized the fanatical Society of Jesus (Jesuits).

Femme fatale Mary Stuart returned from France in 1561 after the timely death of her first husband, King Francis II. With her huge entourage was an Italian named David Rizzio. He was a talented singer and musician, well educated and fluent in many languages. Rizzio was in reality the son of Pope Paul III who would not trust that vital mission to any lesser mortal.

Rizzio was a Rasputin like figure who totally dominated Mary Queen of Scots.

He was often with the Queen "privately and alone."

He began to fill all the important government positions with Roman Catholics.

At that time, most English people looked upon the Scots as barbarians. James had a real problem gaining acceptance by the people so he staged a false flag operation called the Gunpowder Plot.

James was HATED by most of the English people, so, in 1605, he staged a false flag operation called the Gunpowder Plot.

After the plot was discovered, the nation thanked the Almighty for preserving the life of King James!!

The English people thanked the Almighty for delivering their king from the "fiendish plot." Buoyed by the new popular sentiment, he began to turn over most of the important positions in the government to his fellow Jesuits.

In 1609, he ordered a new English translation of the Bible which was to adhere as closely as possible to the corrupt Latin Vulgate Version.

In 1612, King James had his own son (Henry Prince of Wales) poisoned.

In 1618, King James had Sir Walter Raleigh–founder of the Virginia colony in the New World–sent to the Tower and beheaded.

James was able to get away with all his crimes because of the popular sentiment toward him following the Gunpowder Plot.

Patrick Scrivener, Reformation 8 Comments [5/26/2016 2:28:34 PM]
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Quote# 119228

Soper’s research also led him to some of the Internet’s favorite conspiracy theories, including a purported U.N. plot to impose “One World Government.” And Soper, like most in the patriot movement, became a believer.
He suspects that the United Nations, through a program called Agenda 21, wants to reduce the global population from 7 billion to fewer than 1 billion. He said the federal government may be promoting abortions overseas as part of that plot, and also may be deliberately mandating childhood vaccines designed to cause autism because autistic adults are less likely to have children.
Soper said he could not rule out the possibility that the U.S. government was behind the 9/11 attacks. He suspects that the government and the “medical community” have had a cancer cure for years but won’t release it because cancer treatment is too profitable for pharmaceutical companies.

BJ Soper, Washington Post  8 Comments [5/25/2016 2:38:46 AM]
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Quote# 119223

The head of the Organization of American States (OAS), Luis Almagro, has accused the Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro of being "a traitor".

In a series of Twitter posts addressed directly to Mr Maduro, Mr Almagro also called him a "petty dictator".

Mr Maduro accused the OAS chief earlier this week of being a CIA agent and a traitor himself.

The Venezuelan president has blamed his country's economic crisis on an axis of enemy forces co-ordinated from the US.

During a three-hour long news conference on Tuesday, Mr Maduro had justified his declaration of a state of emergency by saying Venezuela was under attack from imperialist forces led by the CIA.

He then told journalists: "Almagro, just give up. He has been a traitor for a long time... At some point I will tell his story, I know his secrets. The Americans, the CIA, have played a master move using Almagro as their agent."

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Opposition politicians have handed in a petition with 1.85 million signatures to the electoral authorities requesting a referendum be held to recall Mr Maduro from office.

But Mr Maduro's deputy, Vice-President Aristobulo Isturiz, on Sunday ruled out such a referendum, saying the signatures were "fraudulent".

Mr Almagro said that not letting the referendum go ahead made Mr Maduro "another petty dictator".

While President Maduro did not answer Mr Almagro's tweets directly, Venezuelan Foreign Minister Delcy Rodriguez did.

She wrote, "Mr Almagro, every time you make a statement you express your hatred against Venezuela and its legitimate authorities. You are part of the imperialist detritus."

"You only repeat the scripted words which your imperialist masters dictate to you".

"You will never give orders to Venezuela!"

Nicolas Maduro, Aristobulo Isturiz, Delcy Rodriguez, BBC News 6 Comments [5/24/2016 3:42:49 AM]
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Quote# 119213

And there’s several ways I could explain how this concept works, but for the sake of not making this post any lengthier than it needs to be, I’ll say this ideology deals with elites knowing that if you want to better control any organization…or organism, one of the best ways to do it is by destabilizing the target and throwing it into a state of dysfunction. Then, you offer the target your solution to the problem. And once this solution is administered, it’s diagnosis will make the target operate in accordance with the desires of the fascist elite.

For example, in the early 1970’s a rich business tycoon said he was at a dinner party and happened to strike up a conversation with a member of the Rockefeller family. While conversing the Rockefeller asked the businessman: “Tell me, what do you think of the Woman’s Lib movement?”

The tycoon responded: “Well, overall I think it’s positive, women getting equal pay for equal work and all.”

The Rockefeller replied: “Listen, we funded Women’s Lib, and the main reason was because we couldn’t tax half the population if women were staying at home and being housewives. Not only did we want to get women into the workforce, but we knew that with both parents out of the home, what essentially would be raising their kids would be the TV, so the generations after theirs would be much easier to program.”

Now, I’d like to focus on the Rockefeller’s last statement about kids being raised by TV. This sentiment is telling when it comes to the elite’s main target for destabilization over the course of the last half-century.

And that target is the nuclear family.

See, if you destabilize the nuclear family and have a spate of one-parent households dominating any country, the children of those households will be infinitely more corruptible than a child coming from a stable two-parent home. Now let me expound on this further…

What I’m not saying is that children from single-parent households are destined to be morally obtuse and criminal-minded, what I am saying is these children will more than likely have some sort of emotional instability from not growing up with both parents. And more than likely, this will affect their decision making to the point where they’ll be more willing to do certain things that the child who has the counsel of both parents won’t. And monetarily, the child may not have access to items they want or need because there’s only one household income. And this more than anything may affect their decision making.

So for the last several decades, the elite have thrown every effort into destroying the nuclear family and keeping it dysfunctional. And one of the best ways to do this is by eradicating traditional gender roles.

Enter the Wachowski brothers…siblings….I mean, sisters.

Now, last year I wrote about Larry Wachowski becoming Lana, and a week ago, I found out that his brother Andy has now taken the transgender plunge and become ‘Lilly’. After shaking my head for several minutes, I have to admit to being mildly shocked, but I wasn’t surprised. Here’s why…

Like I said earlier, with more and more americans/global citizens being distrustful of corporations and with the elite seeing our exodus from the traditional workforce, the powers that be need to be reassured that we're kept in the ‘construct’ that the ‘Real-life’ Matrix is built on. Thus, they have to up the ante with their techniques of keeping us ‘corruptible’.

So the Wachowski’s are not only helping to mainstream homosexuality, but they and others like ‘Caitlyn’ Jenner are ushering in an era of total gender confusion. Our children are being told that they don’t have to be boys or girls. Thus, the elites are asking them to be some kind of human hybrid.

And soon the elites will have an official title for the ‘genderless’ human. This will be followed by initiatives to bait them back into the Real-Life Matrix with the promise of more access to resources via government programs that cater specifically to them.

And that’s what the Wachowski sisters and ‘Caitlyn’ Jenner are really spearheading.

So let me break this all the way down and say:

The matrix has you…

MontUHURU Mimia, The Cinematic Symbolism Blog 6 Comments [5/24/2016 3:13:42 AM]
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Quote# 119209

It isn't a conspiracy theory because theories could not exist if evidence were available and could be proven.
Now the rocks and all film disappeared except the fuzzy one step for man etc. What you going to do to prove they went to the moon? Truth is the movie makers and experts today could prove it they were real. Do you think it is funny they disappeared or the Government did not protect their little piece of being the first Country in the history of mankind to put foot on the moon.

Not a conspiracy theory just a claim which has no real evidence...

SO where it the experimental proof that the rock is not of earth origin.
You can fake anything when using a camera.... Including planes crashing... anything you want even people changing into werewolves trick photography is good.So those pictures are from the moonwalk?

Including filming the same piece of land on earth where the original walk on the moon took place.
Do grow up, if they actually had evidence oops original evidence which they claim to have lost, it would not be lost if real would it?

Sassy, Religion and Ethics 8 Comments [5/24/2016 3:03:26 AM]
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Quote# 119204

YOU mean like all the fools who believe Diane forecasting how they would kill her still do not believe her death was planned?
How much evidence do you need that it was revealed to her to do one of two things.

1. Frighten her and bring her to heel.

2. Or make it out to be co-incidence.

Then we have the deaths of those involved happening suspicious circumstances.

Especially the man found drowned locked in his own car but the funny thing was, there was no keys in the car or ignition with which to drive the car into the water.

I personally, have never used the site before so haven't a clue about it.

But I do take into account how all those astronauts died and how they too died in mysterious circumstances.

Did Marilyn Monroe kill herself and did Robert Kennedy really get shot by one gun when too many bullets found.

Truth is eventually we shall know. Do i believe the Queen capable of killing Diane.. Absolutely not, nor would she have backed any plans by others to do so. The woman a mother herself would never have done anything so cold and callous.
But the men in power have never been stopped from carrying out their own evil for their own ends.

The fact is there is absolutely nothing left now because they destroyed the footage that would prove the moon landing and got rid of the moon rock. All a little too conveniently.

As I said, if it has been done today, probably no problem with belief.
But there is absolutely no proof except the words of others. Arguing about websites useless it proves nothing but shows opinions.

Sassy, Religion and Ethics 4 Comments [5/24/2016 2:57:58 AM]
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Quote# 119194

Israel Electronically Hijacked EgyptAir 804

The Zionist psyops BBS--Bullshit Broadcasting Services--have been babbling about EgyptAir 804 around the clock, which is one indication this was some kind of Israeli False Flag.

Two, the story they've been pushing has kept changing and evolving, another indication of an Israeli False Flag.

Three, WHERE'S THE PLANE'S 'BLACK BOX' RECORDERS which would give second-by second details of what happened and should be screaming their rescue beeps constantly and in and easy to find area, the Med, not some broad expanse of the Pacific or Indian Ocean, another sign it was an Israeli False Flag.

No wreckage, and no black box signals most likely means this jet was hijacked by Israel. Like Mr. Stone points out in his blog, the way the plane was heading South, then jerked 90 degrees to the left, then 360 degrees to the right would point the passenger jet right at Israel.

What are those sick and twisted Khazar psychos up to now, just another of their blood sacrifices or did they want something or someone to steal on that jet?

This plane supposedly "went down in the Mediterranean." Not out in the middle of the Atlantic, not out in the Pacific, it went down in EVERYONE'S BACK YARD. There is no conceivable way the debris trail was not photographed clearly AT DAYBREAK. Israel, Turkey, Egypt, Russia, Italy, and many other countries could have had a fighter jet to the scene in less than an hour, and Egypt, Russia and Israel could have had one there in 10 minutes. Even helicopters could have been there in a half hour. No clear debris photos ALREADY means they are hoaxing this and Israel probably has the plane.

If this was real, THE STORY SHOULD BE ABOUT RESCUE HELICOPTERS SEARCHING, NOT SOME STUPID IDIOT CAPTAIN ON A BOAT!

My all but final conclusion: Plane electronically hijacked and landed in Israel. A 90 degree turn to the left, followed by a 360 degree turn equals a 90 degree turn to the left, which would be STRAIGHT TOWARDS ISRAEL. Adding to that no debris found despite the plane "going down in everyone's back yard" cinches it.

Greg Bacon, Care and Washing of the Brain 8 Comments [5/23/2016 2:23:31 PM]
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Quote# 119193

Egyptair 322, another staged event.

322 = 66 lost souls (skulls and bones) 11, the fool.

Departed 11:09 = 911

Another Diverted Aircraft and False Flag: Mossad, Le Circle MI6, French Connection

Another Staged Debris Field – pre-recorded black boxes

Another Boeing Airbus event (A320 Airbus)

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So I will not rule out any theory just as Hollande the crime boss said. This is a diverted AIRBUS leaving France and then cloaking itself and being diverted to a clandestine airfield. Options are Benghazi, Israel, Turkey or back to France TARMAC AEROSPACE.

The debris comes from TARMAC AEROSPACE and baggage is fabricated or shuttled off in another aircraft for dumping. Passengers, if real, are taken to some other AREA 51 location for experimentation, torture or mind-control targeted operations.

A Masonic Triad always includes the redistribution of wealth and insider trading is the easiest way to payoff confederates. Insurance scams and intelligence operatives work the risk game and get premiums based on “non terror” stagings duping the public while paying off the CEO’s in big bonuses regardless of profits and whether they are insiders.

As with all these operation, they manage multiple benefits to drive the agenda of the “thousand points of light” which is to move the NWO, Global control forward, push power higher up the pyramid and do it making a profit.

The question is will they be consistent and continue this in a three event cycle? We should then see Boeing and Airbus and another plane down or at least another crI$I$ money bomb go off through the summer.

Puddy Dunne, Coalition of the Obvious 6 Comments [5/23/2016 2:21:28 PM]
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Quote# 119191

EgyptAir Crash is a Total Fake Islamopphobic Fearmongering Hoax

It is not difficult to tell that the supposed crash of an EgyptAir airliner over the Mediterranean is a fake. See the narrative. Supposedly, 66 people died. That alone demonstrates the nature of the scam. Moreover, right away the so-deemed Islamic boogeymen are blamed, the various ISIS (Israeli Secret Intelligence Services) agents: that is ‘ISIS did it until proven otherwise.’ Thus, through the arch-Zionist-controlled Telegraph the following imagery and narrative are seen, with the fear mongering and Islamophobia being clearly evident, below:

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NOTE: clearly, the oboe photo is a PhotoShop manipulation where both the images were brought into the background. The use of the blur tool and brush tool is clearly seen on the woman’s faked in strands of hair.

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In all these fakes there are plenty of smirking people caught among the fake grievers and, of course, numerous camera-persons on-site to capture the phony fake show.

Even so, it is clear that it is a fake and all the players are merely actors:

Clearly, the people represented as actors are all about being casual, all about feigning grief before the cameras. Yet, despite acting as if crying and grieving not a tear is seen flowing anywhere. There are plenty of dark-colored sunglasses, though.

The purported relatives clearly prove it is a fake by acting as if they are crying but they are not doing so at all:

Why fake the crying if it is real? Why act like a person is wiping away tears when there are no tears anywhere to be seen?

drkresearch, No Disinfo 3 Comments [5/23/2016 2:21:19 PM]
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Quote# 119190

Flight 804 Egypt Air goes down 804 days!!! after Malaysian Flight 370 disappeared!!! HMMM INTERESTING!

I just counted 804 days since the malaysian flight on the same day WTF????

Its obvious this was some sort of ILLUMINATI sacrifice!!!!!

We have to wipe out the Rothchilds to stop this bullshit! Take every single one of them out!

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 4 Comments [5/23/2016 2:21:16 PM]
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Quote# 119188

Attention "skeptics": HR (bill) 2977 - Chemtrails are known/operational exotic weapons

"Fact: HR2977 introduced shortly after 9/11 listed "chemtrails" as "exotic weapons" to be banned. The bill was overturned.

Chemtrails are known exotic weapons and have been such since 2001.

Get with the times.

[link to thomas.loc.gov]"

I want to see the mental gymnastics skeptics do to "debunk" how a bill was introduced to Congress to ban "exotic" weapons, specifically "chemtrails", and how Congress overturned the bill, opening the door to application and use of said exotic weapons, specifically "chemtrails".

The gymnastics start now. Who wants to go first? (Pops corn, prepares for some laughs)

Look y'all the trapeze is open. I wanna see some tricks. Someone give me a "chemtrails don't exist you tard" argument in light of the above link.

C'mon monkeys, where y'all at. Chemtrails don't exist right? Introduced to Congress, HR2977, preservation of space bill, lists operational exotic weapons to be banned to ensure I suppose sterile warfare and the "peaceful" colonization of space. It lists exotic weapons. Notably it lists techtonic weapons, psychotronic weapons and scalar weapons. Basically revealing to idiot debunkers that no the military isn't trapped in the 1940s with WWII weapons. Nope. Instead the military has what some have been saying: exotic, space-age weapons, specifically CHEMTRAILS.

So let's go, up onto the trapeze you go debunker. Get some. I want to see some amazing mental aerials. Tell me chemtrails don't exist.

Worthless. You are worthless to humanity, debunkers. Got it? You carry water for idiots.

Ok so consider, new weapons, exotic weapons, space weapons: they all have to be tested, no?

Uh huh, they do.

So the US is bound by international law to test those weapons where? Where you idiot debunkers? Where oh where?

Here.

US weapons have to be tested in US territory. Duh!

Chemtrails are proven known exotic weapons that are constantly being tested in the US on US citizens, who are chatel to the USG, Inc. Period. Just like the US blew up unknown scores of nukes on its own lands and under its soil where the aquifer is. Just like every new plane and bomb has to be tested HERE. Chemtrails as known exotic weapons have to be tested here, on American soil, by law.

C'mon, who wants on the trapeze?

Kung Pow Chicken, Godlike Productions 8 Comments [5/23/2016 3:01:24 AM]
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Quote# 119162

[On flight MS804's crash]

You have to think outside of the box here, and see what is the power that be connection and what they have taught us.

for example: TPTB are knowledgeable on Egyptian / Sumerian history
and Atlantis
over all of the passengers are 56 people = 11 = 11 Pointed star
Islam / Judaism + Illuminati bow down to the number 15
God Simple gematria = G7 O15 D4 = 26 = 8
MS804 = MS804 = 74 mirror 47
Abraham Lincoln four score and seven years ago
another example.
January 1st 2016 47 Shia's and 1 Sunni's murdered
4+7 = 10 / Complete cycle
for example Hillary Clinton's birthdate October 26, 1947 Oct = 8 / 26 = GOD and 47 = 10

Hillary and Bill Clinton are 68 when she takes office they'll be 69 years of age.
69 =15 = Yin and Yang two forces become one
Osiris 6 / ISIS 9 = 69

It's revive Osiris and ISIS + Gateway of Osiris
Osiris Constellation
Cairo = Giza Pyramids = aligned perfectly to Orion constellation

the airline crashed landed in mediterraneans sea, and mediterraneans sea used to be a home to Atlantis.

they are searching for Gateway that leads to atlantis, heaven on earth.

correction Bill Clinton August 19, 1946 (age 69 years)
re-entering the white house he would be 70 years.
7 is known to be the god number

Lucifer Morning Star fallen into Atlantis.

ZeroG, Godlike Productions 10 Comments [5/22/2016 1:42:42 PM]
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Quote# 119161

Insider Exposes Hollywood’s Satanic Underside

Hollywood Acting is Demon Possession

Cautioning us to never idolize any “Star”, our insider says all successful actors, stars, celebs and so on, have been heavily compromised in order to achieve their “dream”. Some are clones of stars who have been replaced.

One of the most revealing exposes of Hollywood. No depravity is too great for Hollywood’s Illuminati Elite who play central role in inducting society into their Cabalist satanic cult.

We all know that Hollywood is perverse but an insider has posted new information that is beyond the pale. It confirms everything I encountered when I flitted along the margins of show business in the 1980’s and much more, including human cloning and child sacrifice.

Film sets are sexually highly charged. My own encounters with show-biz strangeness ran the usual gamut of offers to sleep and play with producers and other power players, group sex and so on.

Or, upon being cast as the lead in a play, in a fairly large city (which could have really helped me along), I realized that I needed to “live with” and “sleep with” the octogenarian director for the duration of the theater run.

I declined the part.

Or, finding out a cast member’s girlfriend is really a she-male, or a famous Country-Western singer likes to be used as a human toilet.

Or, going back stage to meet Danny Thomas, the star of “Make Room for Daddy” after a performance. He grabbed me and rammed his tongue down my throat.

What price to make it in show biz? There are two realities to the industry. First, there are the insider blood line types who, when they get out of film school, a call is made and the career is launched. Shirley MacLaine and Warren Beatty might be an example. Many of these people come from multigenerational abuse families. It also helps if you are Jewish. I am not.

Then there are the nobodies who eventually come across the pay to play scenario. Basically prostitution, sleeping with producers, directors and so on, and being on call as an escort. If you say no, your career goes nowhere.

[According to author Darwin Porter, many stars including James Dean, Rock Hudson, Marilyn Monroe and Lucille Ball, started their careers as prostitutes. Hoover & Tolson: Sexual Secrets of America’s Most Famous Men and Women (2012).]

That is why you have never heard of me! The author of the expose and I both shared the moniker of right brain, creative types who were idealistic and naive about the world. It’s what saved us both in the long run.

THE GROOMING STAGE

In order to reach the higher echelons of entertainment with no family or tribe connections, you must work yourself up through the drug use/sexual permissiveness/prostitution/escort stages to things like mind control, handlers, and into darker levels of spiritual possession or soul-loss at a profound level.

This sets the stage for the performer to become part of a very dark world. Artists who resist are a huge threat.

So the Controllers compromise you in some way with evidence of your perversions, or they threaten you, or they finally kill you.

And if you are a big money-maker, you are often replaced, and I don’t mean by another actor. This way, “you” or the 2.0 version of you, can keep on making money for the dark side!

We are talking about losing one’s Soul people!

And… it’s real!

YOU CAN BE CLONED

Cloning has been around for many decades. We just are kept in the dark about it.

Our former entertainer has many stories to relay of how famous celebrities changed in character and looks. Her suspicion is that they had been replaced. She names such stars as, Michael Jackson, Ann Margaret, Joan Baez, Jane Fonda and Jennifer Connolly.

She had friends in the industry who knew these entertainers personally and believed they had indeed been replaced.

She also mentions Bob Dylan. Recently, I saw an interview with Dylan who was on 60 Minutes, and he admitted on camera that he had indeed made a deal with the devil long ago!

Bob didn’t look happy.

Replacement can be confusing to detect because many stars have plastic surgery with horrific results. Basic mutilation. Think Mickey Rourke or Priscilla Presley.

In their cases, extreme surgeries could be used as a form of torture to “fall in line” or the actor /performer is replaced. The surgery takes place after the cloning to improve the original.

Clones never live up to the originals. They deteriorate rapidly. There are many subtle differences. However, many actors will do anything to their bodies and minds to work in Hollywood. Most are damaged people.

Cautioning us to never idolize any “Star”, our insider says all successful actors, stars, celebs and so on, have been heavily compromised in order to achieve their “dream”.

I mean, after all, show business is just a distraction. In ancient Rome, the poet Juvenal describing the political power scene of the day said, “Panem et Circenses” (Bread and Circuses). Meaning, if you keep the masses fed and entertained, they are less likely to kill or even notice their invisible handlers.

So it all boils down to the elite and the demonic force that is behind them.

She spoke of the Madonnas who groom the younger women to eventually take their place with the sexual/psychic rituals. She said that all these women are mind controlled and abused.

Our insider states, many celeb charity boards are fronts for prostitution, sex trafficking and drugs. Many celebs are set up with boyfriends and marriages that are arranged. The actresses agree to do porn in exchange for all the perks of being with a rich man but knowing they will lose it all if they break up with the guy.

HUMAN SACRIFICE

Snuff films are just human sacrifices. These films are done when a sex slave/prostitute/call boy, has gotten slightly haggard and past their “sell by” date or has pissed off the wrong people.

There is a huge market for these satanic sacrifice films among the exclusive, connected and wealthy circles i.e. the demonic Illuminati.

She also touches on the pregnant actresses who are suddenly not pregnant. Their babies are used for human sacrifice. She claims Bristol Palin has been pregnant four times and three of the babies disappeared. She was suddenly not pregnant. You can read more about this here.

Our actress believes there is a long list of famous people who have sacrificed a child, including many political figures.

Many mysterious accidents have happened to big name people and thereafter, magically, their career takes off.

Now I know where the saying comes from, whereby in signing a contract, people joke about giving up their first born child! For example, George Bush Sr. had two little girls that died. Ever heard of them?

Remember Barbara Bush keeping a fetus in a jar?

I can attest to this phenomenon and I am very suspicious. Shortly after my beautiful young mother was killed in a horrific “accident”, weeks after the death, I was invited to Washington D.C. by a U.S. Senator.

My father was his financial campaign manager. I went to the home of George Bush, Sr. for a party. Holding Poppy’s hand and chatting with Barbara, I remember being in total and complete shock and profoundly disassociated from my body at the time and for years afterward.

Soon after this Presidential visit, my father’s career took off like gangbusters and we soon had oodles of money and a family jet. And who was flying in that jet? Henry Kissinger among many other elites. Pretty suspicious if you ask me.

A Sacrifice?

I don’t know. But, it makes me want to go hmm… mm…mm…Mammon?

KANSAS NO MORE

Our informant ran into the Dark Arts very early on. These dark arts are ruled by the Illuminati/reptilian/negative ET’s, negative humans/military industrial complex.

The negative gatekeepers need a certain number of true artists, light worker types as camouflage. Sometimes these light types are targeted to move to a higher level on the playing field.

At the same time they are surrounded by relatively nice “handlers” who don’t corrupt them. But, the conclusion is that at some point everyone in the industry has to make the decision to yield to the corruption or get out.

That is, if it’s not too late. We are human batteries to them. They pilfer our higher energy.

Drugs, alcohol and spiritual possession make it a much easier choice for the actor/performer to compromise, to think “I’ll do anything to get a job”.

That is when the evil really steps in. Many of these people keep drugging and drinking to make their harrowing dark choice “OK”.

But, many cannot keep up the illusion and want out at some point.

If they protest or tell the truth of what is really going on…they are often replaced. They become surrounded by dark people, dark organizations and dark non-humans (ET’s or hybrids). Once this happens they barely have control over what happens next.

Many victims of this satanic industry are those who have no family ties to speak of. Their lives are easier to erase and dispose of. All planned, all by design.

CONCLUSION:

We, The people, especially in the West, have allowed Hollywood hype to distort our sense of reality. None of this is by accident. All has been carefully planned.

Our world is held hostage by an illusion run by a Satanic cult.

The classic Faustian Deal with the Devil is real. See this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deal_with_the_Devil. This contract made by many in the entertainment industry, allows something horrible to possess the individual spiritually, physically, emotionally and sexually. One’s entire being is consumed by dark energy and personal free will is extinguished. Many artists take the deal. I don’t think it ever works out well for any of them; as there is no honor among thieves.

Sasha Spencer, Rex Deus 6 Comments [5/22/2016 9:09:56 AM]
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Quote# 119160

Paranormal Phenomena controls us into accepting reality as perceived so our dreams can be farmed !

As above so below
Our DNA, mitochondria, our internal bacteria cultures, our cells, even our very minds
might just be as infinitely complex in nature as we perceive the universe to be
Part of a more complex system of fractal causality, fate, and quantum probabilities of a vibrational holofractographic universe.
Even if you don’t believe the RH type blood evidence for a divergence, a gap in the natural evolution of the human species, all native lifeforms on earth emerged from the primordial ‘black goo’. The ooze of plasma state consciousness that can be programmed into shaping its matter into divided parts to experience itself. The laws of nature, our genetic codes, and nature’s use of mathematics and hyper dimensional ‘sacred geometry’ come from this black goo. It imbeds a code for life, and a perception management matrix.
Is the world a dream? Is it an altered version of reality or perhaps a collective paradigm model that keeps transforming and is already unrecognizable from the real reality? The simulation argument talks about the human existence as a computational matrix of virtual dimensionality. Some argue that what defines the human existence pre-dates our birth, will outlive us yet it seems mostly affected by deterministic institutions. Our system of society appears immutable by individuals unless they attain the 15min fame focus window where the public’s attention can lead to positive change.
Forget UFOs & ALIENS.
If we are in the matrix, the Aliens are agents of the system. Drones, clones & programmable lifeforms.
Messengers of deception. Masters of illusion and misdirection.

What is the matrix?
That’s really the wrong question…
Better questions would be;

What are the goals behind the industrial-scale abduction phenomena? What sentient cognizant intelligence(s) are behind the veil and making interventions into our linear space-time frame of reference?
The abduction phenomena almost alludes to that we are livestock in some sort of computer generated reality as the movies “The Matrix” or ‘Jupiter Ascending’ advance. Our captors make sure we reproduce, don’t use nuclear weapons, and don’t venture too far out in space. They make sure we are cared-for, employed and lodged. They must be getting something out of this.

Could our captors be farming some element of reality; perhaps while we sleep in dream state?
Our dreams are the manifestation of the creativity of the human spirit. We think they are limited by our imagination and probably don’t understand all of the links to the unconscious. Could our dreams, some hormones, protein, or DNA light particle be key to creating reality at the quantum level.
This makes me ponder:

What resources would inter-dimensional beings be coveting? Contrary to the resource coveted by Extra-terrestrials. Would it be physical things like Hormones, DNA, organic, tissues, our water, air, gold, oil or rather would they be after immaterial things like Energy, vibrations, emotions or thought forms?

Maybe they came here and even after all our barbaric wars they discovered hope, honor, generosity and the tenacity of the human spirit. There are incredible everyday people on this world.
People the Catholic Church could consider ‘saints’. I’m not advancing any specific theories, just thinking out loud.
This world has a tremendous duality of everything.
Good vs bad, white vs black, presence vs absence, matter vs anti-matter, happy vs sad, day vs night. It’s like there is no middle ground. To transcend this paradigm and move into the next octave of perception, we have to evolve. We have to mutate, into the next stage of evolution.
I’m not talking about Alien-Human-hybrids, Mutants or superhuman specifically.
I’m also not necessarily referring to evolving spiritually although that is also needed.
What I’m referring to is more about evolving our morality & values ruleset. A majority of humans on earth have to become freakin SAINTS. So that the less honorable ones amongst us will still be decent individuals. Would a billionaire leap in front a car to save a child about to be hit? What about a homeless person. Why not? Most people who answered that question probably said no.

I think we are born decently good, but then we are shaped by the system and the ‘code’ of life.
It teaches us different things. Differently. But when this code isn’t working and us cogs become un-hinged from the machine we are supposed to be a part of, when we become a ghost in the shell, thinking for ourselves instead of absorbing the feed like the rest of the herd.

That’s when I think the ‘system’ puts us back in line with phenomena’s, coincidences & deja-vus.
Call it karmic laws, call it destiny or synchronicity but it’s there. I agree when Jacques Vallee calls this a control system, in this sense.

Ask every fervent religious person, when they became convinced of the existence of the divine and they will tell you a story about an event. A phenomena, they can’t explain, but appeared to them in a time a distress and set them on the right path. Provided them with a solution, when they thought all hope was lost. Plato said; Coincidences are god’s way of being anonymous.
So the main thesis is this;
something is off with reality at the fundamental level. We are cogs in a machine.
We are the resources of the state. The state and man-made laws feel unnatural. Like a primordial code that we are bound by. If time is a river whose flow cannot be altered, we are fish eggs, getting carried along.

I invite you to respond to the 3 bolded questions with your own opinions.

Salam Alaikum– Shalom – May peace be with you all

pupetmaster, Above Top Secret 3 Comments [5/22/2016 9:09:45 AM]
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Quote# 119136

Joan Rivers impersonator's fake death for dummies
"Joan Rivers" is as much 80 yrs old here ...[1] as "Saudi King Abdullah" 90 yrs old here [2].

Two of the differences between the agendas in each case:
- having an actor to impersonate Saudi King Abdullah after his death was not part of advancing the "plastic surgery is good for you" agenda.
- the Saudi King was not murdered.

Non white Joan Rivers impersonator, a tranny as daughter
Joan Rivers and her family were murdered long ago.
A non white started playing her role, supposedly after plastic surgery, a transvestite started playing her daughter.
One of the agendas was to have people swallow any impersonator that the illuminati use to replace assassinated oppositors (from Mandela played by Morgan Freeman to Sharon and Putin) to illuminati agents whose life is extended beyond death (Fidel Castro died and Liam Neeson impersonates him once a year).
The actress impersonating Rivers "died" 2014 as much as "Mandela" 2013.
To have fake Joan Rivers in public again with Clive Davis all it takes is a new haircut [4].

Tranny Michelle Obama: Why was fake Joan Rivers casted for Truth in plain sight
Now it should be clear why "Joan Rivers" was selected to "expose" Michelle Obama as a transvestite [3], in the classic script "paid with her life for exposing it".

Transvestite Michelle Obama, Homosexual Obamessiah of the Obamanation of Desolation in the illuminati anti-Bible:
The same indonesian actor plays both "Obama" and "Osama".
As for WHY the illuminati casted an indonesian homosexual as first black president and a transvestite as first lady:
Abomination of Desolation was the starting point to create the name Obama.
Osama comes from Obama, and Obama comes from Abomination.
This fulfills the illuminati anti-Bible, from Leviticus 18:22 to Deuteronomy 22:5.

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 5 Comments [5/21/2016 4:48:59 AM]
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Quote# 119135

Much has been written about occult symbolism being seen in corporate logos. Whether it is the McDonald's golden arches, British Petroleum, or Paramount Pictures, the trademark of the NWO can be seen everywhere. However, little notice has been taken of Illuminati symbols in the logos of professional sports teams, major league baseball in particular.

Given that the sport is America's most historical, it makes sense that this is where the secret order would begin its influence in the athletic world. For starters, there are the team logos. Some of these look innocent enough, but too many of them boast the telltale NWO mark. Let's go through each one that looks suspicious.

We'll begin with the Anaheim Angels. That giant "A" with a halo bears an uncanny resemblance to the Eye of Providence.

The Miami Marlins: This team pulls a McDonald's. When you turn the new logo on its side, it looks like the number 13.

The Seattle Mariners, this one is nothing short of a Masonic symbol, a compass.

The Tampa Bay Rays, once known for being a stingray, the new logo now boasts a shining sun, making it a clear reference to the Illuminati.

The Milwaukee Brewers, this team's retro 80s logo looks much more like a 6 than a "b."

The Colorado Rockies, the mountain can easily represent a pyramid.

The Arizona Diamondbacks and the Houston Astros, two team logos boasting stars and triangles, which are always NWO calling cards.

If the evidence presented in the logos is insufficient, then think about the most satanic team of them all, the Chicago Cubs. Although the Cubbies' current mascots and emblems do not boast any direct symbolism, the team's history does. Even the organization has admitted to using occult symbols in the past, but that's not whole story. You have to go back to 1945 for this one. That was the year of the Cubs' biggest choke and the beginning of their never-ending cursed era. Now, what is this curse all about? It involves nothing more than a mere goat. Most baseball fans think this has more to do with the farmer who was denied entry with his animal. However, this whole story was little more than a ruse to allow the Illuminati to conduct devil worshiping ceremonies in broad daylight.

Bruce, Illuminati Watchdog 7 Comments [5/21/2016 4:48:47 AM]
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Quote# 119123

The Lacerta Files

Interview with a Reptilian

[...]

Question: Can you tell me something about the natural history and evolution of your species? How old is your species? Have you evolved from primitive reptiles as mankind has evolved from apes?

Answer: Oh, this is a very long and complex story and it sounds certainly unbelievable to you, but it’s the truth. I will try to explain it in short. Around 65 million years ago, many of our unadvanced ancestors from the dinosaur race died in a great global cataclysm. The reason for this destruction was not a natural disaster—an asteroid impact as your scientists believe falsely—but a war between two enemy alien groups that took mainly place in the orbit and high atmosphere of your planet. According to our limited knowledge about the early days this global war was the first alien war on planet earth but it was definitely not the last (and a future war is coming soon, while a “cold war”—as you call it—between alien groups is ongoing since the last 73 years on your planet).

The opponents in this 65 million year old war were two advanced alien species, whose both names are again not pronounceable for your tongues. I’m able to say them but it would hurt your ear if I tell you the names in their original way. One race was humanoid like your species (but much older) and was from this universe, from a solar system in the star constellation you call “Procyon” today in your maps. The other species—about which we know not so much—was a reptilian species, but they have nothing to do with our own species, because we have evolved from local saurians without exterior influence (except the successful manipulation of our own genes by us. More about that later). The advanced reptilian species came not from this universe but from a—well, how should I explain it to you. Your scientists have not really understood the true nature of the universe, because your illogical mind is not able to see the easiest things and relies on wrong mathematics and numbers. This is part of the genetic programming of your kind to which I will come later. Let me say, that you are nearly as far away from the understanding of the universe as you were 500 years ago.

To use a term you will maybe understand: the other species came not from this universe but from another “bubble” in the foam of the omniverse. You would call it maybe another dimension, but this is not the right word to describe it correctly (by the way, the term dimension is generally wrong in the way you understand it). The fact you should remember is, that advanced species are able to “walk” between bubbles by use of—as you would call it—quantum technology and sometimes in special ways only by use of their mind (my own species had also advanced mental abilities in comparison to your species, but we are not able to do the matterstring/bubble changing without technology, but other species active on this planet are able and this looks to you like magic as it had to your ancestors.)

Back to our own history: the first species (the humanoids) had reached Earth around 150 years before the reptilians and they built some colonies on the former continents. There was a large colony on the continent you call “Antarctica” today and another one in the continent you call “Asia” today. These people lived together with animal-like saurians on the planet without problems. When the advanced reptilian species arrived in this system, the humanoid colonists from “Procyon” tried to communicate peacefully, but they were not successful and a global war started within months.

You must understand that both species were interested in this young planet not for its biology and undeveloped species, but for only one reason: raw material, especially copper. To understand this reason, you must know that copper is a very important material for some advanced species (even today) because it is—together with some unstable materials—able to produce new stable elements if you induce a high electromagnetic field in the right angle with a high nuclear radiation field to produce an over-crossing of fluctuating fields. The fusion of copper with other elements in such a magnetic/radiation field-chamber can produce a force field of special nature that is very useful for various technological tasks (but the base for this is an extremely complex formula you are not able to discover because of the restrictions of your simple mind).

Both species wanted to have the copper of Planet Earth and for this reason, they fought a not very long war in space and orbit. The humanoid species seemed to be successful during the first time, but in a last battle the reptilians decided to use a mighty experimental weapon—a special kind of fusion bomb which should destroy the life forms on the planet but should not harm the valuable raw materials and the copper. The bomb was fired from space and detonated at a point of your planet you call “Middle America” today. As it detonated in the ocean, it produced an unpredictable fusion with hydrogen and the effect was much stronger then the reptilians had expected. A deadly radiation, an over-production of fusion-oxygen, a fall-out of different elements and a “nuclear winter” for nearly 200 years were the results. Most of the humanoids were killed and the reptilians lost their interest on the planet after some years for (even for us) unknown reasons—maybe because of the radiation.

Planet Earth was on its own again and the animals on the surface died. By the way, one result of the fusionbomb was the fall-out of different elements and materials created in the burning process and one of that materials was Iridium. Your human scientists today see the Iridium concentration in the ground as an evidence for an asteroid impact that killed the dinosaurs. That is not true, but how should you know that?

Well, most of the dinosaurs died (not all in the detonation but in the bad things which came after the war, especially in the nuclear winter and in the fall-out). Nearly all dinosaurs and reptilians were dead within the next 20 years. Some of them—especially those in the oceans—were able to survive for the next 200 to 300 years even in this changed world, but these species also died, because the climate had changed. The nuclear winter ended after 200 years, but it was colder on earth then before. Despite the cataclysm, some species were able to survive: fish (like the sharks), birds, little creepy mammals (your ancestors), various reptiles like crocodiles…and there was a special kind of small but advanced dinosaur which had developed together with the last large animal-reptilians like the species you call Tyrannosaurus.

This new reptile was walking on two legs and looked at little bit like your reconstruction of an Iguanodon (it originated in this family) but it was smaller (around 1.50 metres tall) with some humanoid features, a changed bone structure, a larger skull and brain, a hand with a thumb which was able to grab things, a different organism and digestion, advanced eyes in the middle of the head like your eyes and…most important…with a new and better brain structure. This was our direct ancestor.

There are theories that the radiation from the bomb took part in the mutations of the organism of this new breed, but this is not proven. Nevertheless, this little humanoid-like dinosaur evolved during the following 30 million years (as I have said earlier, a species need generally more time to evolve then you think, if the evolution is not artificially induced like in your case) from an animal to a more or less thinking being. These beings were intelligent enough not to die in the next millions of years, because they learned to change their behavior, they lived in caves instead in the cold nature and they learned to use stones and branches as first tools and the use of fire as help to warm them—especially to warm their blood which is very important for our kind to survive. During the next 20 million years this species was divided by nature into 27 sub-species (unfortunately, former reptilian species were prone to divide themselves in a more or less illogical way into sub-species during the evolution process. You can clearly see this in the unnecessary high number of animal-dinosaur species in earlier times) and there were many (mainly primitive) wars between this sub-species for dominance.

Well, nature was not very friendly to us and as far as we know from the 27 sub-species, 24 were extincted in primitive wars and in evolution, because their organism and mind was not developed enough to survive and (as main reason) they were not able to change their blood temperature in the right way when the climate changed. 50 million years after the war and after the end of Dinosaurs, only three (now also technological) advanced reptilian species were remaining on this planet together with all the other lower animals. Through natural and artificial crossbreedings this three species were united to one reptilian species and through the invention of genetic manipulations, we were able to “eliminate” the dividing-prone genes in our genetic structure.

According to our history and belief, this was the time when our final reptilian race—as you see me today—was created by use of genetic engineering. This was around 10 million years ago and our evolution nearly stopped at this point (well, actually there were some minor changes in our look toward a more humanoid and mammal-like appearance during the coming ages, but we have not divided again into sub-species). You see, we are a very old race in comparison to your kind, which was jumping around as small monkey-like animals in the trees at this time while we invented technology, colonized other planets of this system, built large cities on this planet (which disappeared without a trace in the ages) and engineered our own genes while your genes where still those of animals.

10 million years ago the small simians started to grow and they came down from the trees to the ground (again because of the change of the climate—especially on the so-called African continent). But they evolved very slow as it is normal for a mammal and if nothing extraordinary had happened to your kind, we wouldn’t be able to sit here and talk because I would sit in my comfortable modern house and you would sit in your cave clothed with fur and trying to discover the secrets of fire—or you would maybe sit in one of our zoos.

But the things had developed differently and you believe now you are the “crown of creation” and you can sit in the modern house and we must hide and live beneath the earth and in remote areas. Around 1.5 million years ago, another alien species arrived at Earth (it was surprisingly the first species since over 60 million years. This would be more surprising for you if you would know how many different species are here today).

The interest of this humanoid species—you call them “Ilojiim” today—was not the raw material and the copper, it were to our astonishment the unadvanced ape-humanoids. Despite our presence on this planet, the aliens decided to “help” the apes to evolve a little bit faster, to serve them in the future as some kind of slave-race in coming wars. The fate of your species was not really important for us, but we didn’t liked the presence of the “Ilojiim” on our planet and they didn’t liked our presence on their new “galactic zoo” planet and so your sixth and seventh creation was the reason for a war between us and them. You can read about that war for example partly in the book you call “Bible” in a very strange way of description. The real truth is a very long and difficult story. Should I continue?

Question: No, not now. I’ve made some notes about your history and now I have some questions.

Answer: Please ask.

Question: First of all, you handle with a very large time scale. You claim that your primitive ancestors lived together with the dinosaurs, survived the—as you called it—artificial cataclysm and evolved then over 40 million years and your evolution was completed 10 million years ago. This sounds very unbelievable to me. Can you say something to this?

Answer: I understand that this must sound absolutely unbelievable to you, because you are a young and genetically engineered species. Your historical horizon ends at a scale of just some thousands of years and you think this is right. But it isn’t. This is impossible. Your programmed mind is obviously not able to handle with such large time scales. Our evolution time may seem incredibly long to you, but this is in fact the original way of nature. Remember, your early mammal ancestors developed together with dinosaurs and they survived the bomb like us. They evolved slowly during the next millions of years and they divided into various species and shapes, some of them larger, some of them smaller. This is evolution of the body.

But what about their mind and intelligence? They were simple animals. The mammals evolved since—let us say—150 millions of years, but only in the last 2–3 millions of years they were able to become intelligent and thinking. And within this small period beings like you were created. From nature? 148 millions of years time for the evolution of animal-like mammals, 2 millions of years time for the development of (more or less) intelligent beings like you? Ask yourself: Do you really think this accelerated evolution is natural? Then your species is more ignorant then I’ve thought. We have not evolved wrong but you.

Question: I understand. But I have another question. You’ve mentioned many facts about the ancient war between the aliens 65 million years ago. This happened very long before your kind became really intelligent (as far as I have understood you). Why do you know so many things about that “first war” and about the evolution of your species?

Answer: This is a good question (much better then the previous) and I have not explained it properly to you. Our knowledge about the first war comes completely from an ancient artifact, which was found around 16,000 years ago from our archeologists on the continent you call North America today. They found there a round plate with a diameter of approximately 47 of your centimeters The plate was made of an even for us unknown magnetic material and inside the plate there was another smaller crystal plate which contained an enormous amount of information coded in the molecular structure of the crystal.

This “memory plate” was manufactured from the last bomb survivors of human race from “Procyon” already 65 million years ago but it was completely intact when we found it. Our scientists were able to encode the messages and data and so we heard the first time about the events which took place in the distant past and which led to the extinction of the dinosaurs. The plate contained detailed descriptions of both species (but more about the humanoids) and about the events and weapons, including the fusion bomb. It contained also a description of the animals and saurians on earth, including our pre-intelligent ancestor species. The rest of our knowledge about our evolution comes from skeletons and from the back-reading and de/encoding of our DNA. You see, we know the real truth about our roots since 16,000 years. Before that time, there was a more religious idea of our creation.

(Note by Michael Relfe: Assuming that this female is providing accurate information, from what she has been taught, it now becomes apparent that everything the “reptilians” understand about their history is from an unknown alien artifact, created by an unknown alien group at an unknown time for an unknown purpose. Just as the reptilians enjoy subjecting humans to propaganda and disinformation, it seems that some other group is “running a game” on the reptilians as well. So this “advanced” reptilian race has no hard facts on their history, contrary to what they would have humans believe.)

Michael & Stephanie Relfe, Metatech 8 Comments [5/21/2016 4:03:26 AM]
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