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Quote# 24790

[Commenting on an article about "clean coal" electricity generation]

With manufacturing on the way out in this country and no "soaring population explosion" going on, just what do "they" need all of this increased generation for? It can't be readily shipped overseas. It can't be stored for future generations. Where is it going?

magistre, AlterNet 1 Comments [4/29/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24782

[This is just the conclusion of a much longer rant: check out the whole thing if you can stand it.]

This period december/january is mostly of positive energy.... a few disasters this year without killing a single person, like quakes in japan, or plane crashes....... this month saw two unusual explosions, the Uk with the largest ever in europe killed nobody...the other in Texas massive and within days, the main event also, today, was also weak and probably also positive to humanity in the long term.... we are hence in a positive wave... the negative waves are to return next year.... so if i sound mad, look at celestia and date any major day that the news reported a global tradgedy or global celerbration....... like tsunami's hurricanes quakes, assasinations, terror attacks, and then hunt the events that changed our world to togetherness, like the declarations of peace, anti nukes anti poisons and freedom by revolutions etc.... they are all marked by alignments of any three heavenly bodies.... as i am to leave the internet and wage a war to leak damning secrets from the vatican... I think it better to leave the evidence here, so people can print and make whatever profit out of it if they can. I have enough witnesses who are studing the facts already....i have a problem about a prodicted nuclear bomb due from the illuminati, the internet saps my energy.. i am leaving to focus my war....so take of this as you feel benefitial......it is only a torch indicating a confirmation on the concept of gods and demi-gods that some people know or suspect may be true.....it was a force of creatures exalted from the realm of the dark lords supressing humanity right now... gods exist in that realm and in the higher ones.. the dark supress knowledge, so only the Light are left....even if nobody can be trusted..., I know for very sharp reasons what i am on about, delusional i am not....nobody wakes up in the morning with laser scars on their arm, or semivisible creature forcing their way into your torso....well, not quite true....a few people actually do, i am one of them, now i'm at war..., or visions of a place where information like this thread perpetuate and flow.....so for the makers of this program.....you have a method to predict the future more than for eclipses and orbits, but for world changing events to come as well... this is seriously flawless as i boasted last night, and recieved a quake this morning... totally accurate as well......

events can be single and sudden positive or negative, like charles and diana marrying or 911/ we have also positive and negative string of events when alignments are numerous within the month... i. the period of Hurricane scares and bali bombing etc.....


Zeus 7of9, Celestia Forums 7 Comments [4/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gadren

Quote# 24783

I just had a long talk with someone who is very knowledgeable about this subject we are all talking about.

First I would like to say that there is NO question that certain groups within the government were definately behind 9/11.

Second, these members will find a way to infiltrate us and stop any movement we make. Look what happened to JFK who was about to abolish the CIA amongst other things.

Third, we cannot organize ourselves as well as these elite few have. They were able to stage the biggest terror attack on the United States and get away with it. They have incredible funding and are very powerful. There is no use even trying to take these few down.

Fourth, and most important, If a movement is started, I believe it will end very brutally in the murder of any opposition leader.

I dont know what you guys are thinking about doing, but please consider your personal saftey. If these people can kill a President and murder 3000 of our own, just imagine what can happen to you.

DJGTSR, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24784

Now before you censor me, hear me out. And no, I'm not anti-Jew or anti any religon for that matter, hell, just look at insane Christian Bush who is ruining this country.

Everytime I research 911 I keep coming up with Jews in key positions involving 911. We all know the Jews have a vested interest in the War on Terror for obvious reasons, and 911 was the reason we went to war in the first place.

We also know that 90% of PNAC are Jews like Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, William Kristol and good old Mr. Chertoff of Homeland Security is a dual citizen Jew. Then we got Silverstein the lease holder, he a Jew and Bush too?

xtratabasco, Loose Change 3 Comments [4/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24785

Finally!!! someone with a pair of brains

e-dog, Loose Change 12 Comments [4/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24786

oooh i understand :$

well why do u think ?? i think cuz all the major organizations like the FBI,CIA,FAA,MI5,NSA,NASA etc. are in control of the guys who did this ....

i know there's a scret organization running EVERYTHING... and bush just a puppet and if bush would do things that they didnt like they'd just eliminate him like they did with kenedy and 2pac or clinton... why do u think the guy who killed 2pac or kenedy was never found.. i mean YOU CAN FIND SOMEONE UNDER GROUND IN IRAK but u cant find the murderor who shot the greatest rapper ever.. in LAS VEGAS?!!! or the guy sho shot my fav president all these stories reeeaaalllyy stink!

e-dog, Loose Change 3 Comments [4/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24787

Man your full of it jet fule of hydrocarbons (kerosene aka jet fuel) dose not burn at on 1800 degrees who are bush. Tell me your not that dum. Even if it did it would it would have to burn for hrs to melt steal like it did. There is only one engine found at the crash. you need to look in to this more than what you have mom&dad is not all ways rigth. The tv is not all ways right some thing you have to look up self.

cam, Loose Change 5 Comments [4/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24788

does anybody buy that lame story about the dudes overtaking those imaginary, box-cutter weilding "terrorists"? couldn't they have come up with a better story than the sappy cell phone call to wifey-poo and then the ensuing "brave americans pull the great patriotic move to protect the capitol or white house by fighting the a-rabs"? do they think we're all 8 years old?

nafenisr, United 93 8 Comments [4/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: chipmunk stew

Quote# 24789

[responding to United 93's hacked site]


[It's a long post, but worth a scan--click the link]

thetinman, United 93 2 Comments [4/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: chipmunk stew

Quote# 24779

[What to expect in the year 2012]

* The resonance of Earth (Schumann Resonance) has been 7.8Hz for thousands of years. Since 1980 it has risen to over 12Hz.
This means that 16 hours now equate to a 24 hour day. Time is speeding up!
* The physical body has already begun to change. A new light body is being created.
* Our DNA is being re-programmed from the Universe (as predicted in the Mayan Prophecy).
We are going from 2 strand back to 12 strand DNA.
* Greater intuitive and healing abilities will emerge.
* Eyes will become cat like in order to adjust to the new atmosphere and light.
* All newly born children will probably be telepathic at birth.
* All plagues of the 90's, including AIDS will be gone.

2012 Unlimited, 2012 Unlimited 12 Comments [4/25/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24780

Novelty Theory suggests that on December 21 of 2012 AD, at the coincidence of the moment of the solstice and the heliacal rising of the galactic center, levels of planetary novelty will exponentially increase. Theory does not make clear the nature of the ultranovel event, however. Speculation as to the nature of the encounter with the trans-dimensional object at the end of time includes the following:

* Hyperspatial Breakthrough
* Planetesimal Impact
* Alien Contact
* Historical Metamorphosis
* Metamorphosis of Natural Law
* Solar Explosion
* Quasar Ignition at the Galactic Core

Terence McKenna, The Final Illusion 7 Comments [4/25/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24781

[Apparently connecting the year 2012 with resurrection of the Egyptian god Osiris]

The zenith meridian at Giza runs through Jupiter at the Hyades in Taurus. The metaphor for this alignment is that the kingdom (Jupiter) will be restored to Egypt (Taurus) at that precise moment. Thus, Osiris, the Bull of Egypt, will return from the dead at 22:18:13 on December 21, 2012. If these calculations can be backed up, they will have fulfilled the ancient prophecy. It will also prove that the Hall of Records is the stars. Remember one simple fact. Everything we are and everything we can know, is within the stars. That was the fundamental synoptic meaning of the Giza complex.

Ruth Allen, Library of Halexandria 3 Comments [4/25/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24775

Hear me out first, Im at like 99% of being a total believer in advanced alien life forms on other planets.
Theres just one question that always sets me back...

Why dont the aliens contact us, the people that is not shadowy govenments ?

During my research over the years i read somewhere that a race of aliens made contact with the US government. The Aliens told us something like we where not spiritual advanced enough to get there advanced technology. But how are we ment to spiritually advanced when we worship Nike,TV,Hollywood and 50 cent ?. IMHO the only thing that can spiritually awaken us, therefore spiritually advance would be if we the human race as a whole was contacted by a spiritually advanced alien race. Once the human race discovered we apart of a massive consciencessness we would advance. SO where do these aliens get of telling us we are not " spiritual advanced enough to get there advanced technology" and then leave us to be spiritually mislead by our govenments. You would think aliens are just us but million odd years down the line, so they much no how oppressive or governments can be. Leaving us NO chance to reach of full potential spiritually and no our place in the galaxy.

helium3, AboveTopSecret 3 Comments [4/24/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed

Quote# 24776

I Found Strange Objects On The Moon! (3D Recreation Inside)

I went out this morning @ 5 am with my telescope to do some moon observing. I used my 12.5mm lens for a while and I noticed something on the lower right side of the moon. I put in my 4mm lens to get a closer look, and I saw 2 things that I've never seen on the moon before.

1) There seemed to be a backwards "3", or perhaps an "8" peeking out from the lower right side of the moon.

2) Below that there was an object that was casting a long shadow on the moon.

I do not have any equipment to take pictures of the moon, so I made a recreation of what I saw. Please excuse the ugly texturing, and just use the model for what it's meant to be: a recreation of what I saw.

Please, I ask anyone with a telescope to view the moon tonight and observe the lower right hand side. Let me know if you see it too. I have looked at the moon many, many times with my telescope, and I have never seen this before.

<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/ill001/moonrecreation.jpg>

idbltrl001, AboveTopSecret 1 Comments [4/24/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed

Quote# 24777

Some Vamp traits I've got

I'm really fascinated with vampires and the like. But I've always liked the taste of blood. I haven't tasted other peoples blood because it's just plain icky but whenever I get a huge gash and blood comes gushing out I try to get rid of it by drinking it. Also I know that everybody has canine teeth but I've noticed that mine are distinctly sharper than other people's(I usually mess around with my canines using my tongue and have cut myself before). I don't like going out the sun very much because it hurts my eyes (even when I have my eyes closed) and I usually go out when it's dark. I have a good sense of hearing but when I'm in a converstion with someone all I usually hear are just mumbles so maybe I hear so much it floods out everything else or I'm just not a great listener
The only thing that isn't very vampire of me is that my eyes are seriously screwed up. everything is a huge blur when I have my stupid glasses off.
Do other people have these traits but know they aren't vampires?
Maybe there's a vamp in all of us but some show it more than others?
I'd like to hear your views on people who aren't vampires but can be like them...

Burn The Witch, AboveTopSecret 8 Comments [4/24/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed

Quote# 24778

If we truly had plane swaps (which I believe we did) and some of the original flights continued on - such as the phantom radar tracks suggests for Flight 77 out west - then the "all flights land ASAP at any available base" certainly provided perfect cover for that.

Skpetics would argue that a 757 flying rogue across the U.S. would draw air traffic controller attention, but I think we can assume that once the "mandatory landing" order went out and every airborne plane had to ditch, there was no way all flights would be monitored as to where they came from or where they landed. They would have their hands full just organizing the air traffic around airports. And with all that going on, no one would worry about any planes making unusual maneuvers or devating from flight plans, it was probably close to total mayhem.

It's the perfect cover, because it serves the purpose to allow the disposal of evidence, plus it make sense from a standpoint of what could be seen as "normal emergency procedure." Just like Cheney's wargames were cover for the alleged hijackings, the flight grounding order may have covered up the real Flight 77's removal.

Rumpl4skn, The Randi Rhodes Show Message Board 1 Comments [4/24/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24774

heres a good campaign- convert ten of your immediate naibours to the truth and get all ten to put placards outside thier house-

people will question it- want answers and accountability- they learn the truth- their kids spread it to other families-- their parents get angry- come over and see the placards- want accountability of unpatriotic stance- get converted, 30 houses gain lots of attention from other 30 houses- a street screening is held- whole street is converted- all have placards- repeat process.

street by street- community by community- the objectors will be crushed by popular public opinion and crate a polarisation of rediculousness and provide the platform to full informatioon awareness.

get %50 of america and automatically the rest follow. and impeach the entire corporatocracy and move to new constitution with extra amendments to ensure this can never happen again with full guidelenes to ensure that forieign buisness gives a fair deal to poor countries and start financial help programs and kick start an energy efficiency program in america and include in the constitution stark environmental properties to ensure our kids have a future world to live in-

get %50 of a state with placards local news will take explicit notice

they dont deserve it- especially having ignorant ass parents and forefathers

FinalStrike, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/23/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: chipmunk stew

Quote# 24772

I've never actually been able to see bodies or anything of the like flying out of the debris during the implosion and collapse.

Is it possible that many or all of the actual people in the building wern't there? And that it was all covered up?

No bodies during recovery either...

~SÐ~Zántíng, Loose Change 3 Comments [4/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: hurdygurdy

Quote# 24773

Some people (like me) are shocked, stunned, angry, and resentful... Totally stunned that ANY government could stage such an event [9/11] - and get away with it!

Others...... just couldn't give a sh!t. And, by saying 'others,' in my view, that means about 70% of those people to whom I try to convert.

I'm not particularly religous, but I think I now understand how those evangalests out there feel!

Bulldog, Loose Change 2 Comments [4/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: chipmunk stew

Quote# 24771

In reviewing eyewitness accounts of what occurred in New York on 9/11, I realized how many accounts were influenced or 'contaminated' by media coverage. Subsequently I discovered that a set of Port Authority police transcripts had recently been released to the New York Times.

These transcripts can be found at:

What better eyewitnesses are there than TRAINED POLICE OFFICERS MAKING REAL-TIME OBSERVATIONS AND REPORTS IN THE FIELD? After all, these kind of witnesses are ordinarily considered to be the most credible in ordinary court cases.

At the website there is a section called '9/11 Transcripts' which contain 50 transcripts (1,594 pages) from the Port Authority police. I methodically combed through all these transcripts, ignoring opinions from desk sergeants and all influences from media reports.

The following facts emerged:

1. No credible observations of airplanes in the air are contained in these transcripts.
2. No credible observations of engine noise are found.
3. No reports of separate impact sounds are found.
4. One secondhand report of plane debris was found.
5. No reports of plane holes are found.
6. All observations and reports of plane crashes into either tower, are contradicted by other observations and reports of missiles or other objects impacting the towers, or simply explosions.

A reasonable and disinterested reader of these transcripts, using only the reports listed in the transcripts, would come to the following conclusions:

1. An explosion occurred in Tower One which ignited jet fuel planted in the building.
2. Tower One was then struck by a missile fired from the roof of the Woolworth Building.
3. Multiple explosives were then detonated in Tower One, including at the B-4 level and near the PATH platform.
4. Tower Two was then struck by a missile fired from the roof of the Woolworth Building.
5. Multiple explosives were then detonated in Tower Two.

Any questions?

bingo, Loose Change 3 Comments [4/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: chipmunk stew

Quote# 24768

Humans, a food-source

Im pretty convinced that all the aliens care for us is as a food-source. We are just farmed animals too them, I dont really think they care for our well-being, physical or spirutal. Ever wonder why human mutilations have the genitals, area around the mouth, anal, and area around the eyes sliced out? Its because its the most tender meat on our body. Thats why dont want us to be any wiser about their existance and why they shy us, they dont want us to know that they are eating us. Image how many people that dissapear each year never to be seen again, there have to be many kidnapping psycopats to kidnap all those people, but perhaps aliens are taking them, and eating them? They probably dont care more for us then we do a cow or a chicken. I hope I am mistaken, but it would explain alot of the mystery of aliens attitute towards man. I dont want to make you neurvous, but what do man do with creatures we consider lesser than us; we eat them.

anorwegianguy1972, AboveTopSecret 10 Comments [4/16/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed

Quote# 24769

You ever pay attention to the storyline of the alien and predator movies? basically what it says is that the predators created humans to worship them and on ocation to have a good hunt. Thats how i see it right now. I believe that if there really are aliens out there, there have got to be different species. We are a science experiment, lab rats if you will. The only way we are going to be able to prove that aliens exist is either to catch them unaware, which i find highly unlikely because if they can fly around abducting people i'm pretty sure they know of our efforts to try and locate them. The other alternative is that we must prove to them that we are not just lab rats, that we could one day be equal to them. cause i'm pretty sure they know how to fool our radio signals into thinking that there is nothing there.

formoneyormind, AboveTopSecret 2 Comments [4/16/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed

Quote# 24770

[This whole post is a must-read. After stating the face on Mars is depicted as a lion, drawing parallels pondering whether the Sphinx is really a lion-human hybrid, and contemplating why lions appear frequently alongside Biblical characters such as Jesus and Judas]


Yes some of you are probably laughing.....well so did I when i read the section in The hand book for light workers" I pmsl in fact and said what a load of cow dung

Anyway roughly a year later i had a really odd experience. I was lucid dreaming, i had never experienced it before. I went on a journey out of this world through vortexes stargates, i felt like i was in a stargate tv programme. I ended up in a pyramid and walked down to an alter. A golden being entered from mid air on a huge flying throne it landed, and she moved elegantly towards me almost dancing. She was tall, thin, with a long neck and a bauld head. The being whirrled around me as if she had never seen a human before, i was just as intreged by her.

After this dream type state i came too, but I knew there was something about what happened to me, I couldn't put my finger on it.

The next day my friend Trevour came to see me. As he departed this earth over ten years ago in a road accident, this is more complex than you probably first realised. [...]

back to Trevour, he said "a friend wants to meet you but he has asked me to ask you first because you will need to be prepared to meet him as he is not like me" I asked what he meant and Trev replied "He is a Lion Person" I cautiously agreed to meet this Lion Person, curiosity got the better of me, not believing in them and all!

The young Lion person stepped forward and introduced himself as Kootie! He looked warrior like in a long red robe, he explained he was responsible for my Lucid dreaming experience as a way of introducing himself so it wasn't too much of a shock!

I will admit now,I was scared, I had never encountered another being, spirit people form our spirit world yes. I took me a couple of weeks to get used to Kootie, I nearly had a few panic attacks!

Anyway I have recieved several messages and it appears his main aim is to RE-REVEAL THE REVALATIONS

Now I have read theories about aliens being demonic and connected to satan. But as Lion's appear side by side with Jesus I am inclined to trust my new friend. As it is late I wont be sharing any messages tonite but I will share what I have so far and maybe some of you can even help us as I am in the Uk with a baby to take care of It is difficult for me to get to peru and North Africa as well as Chakara in India. If you can we will have to team up!

Earth Angel, AboveTopSecret 7 Comments [4/16/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed

Quote# 24766

I think every 9/11 interview on TV should have some kind of massive boner juxtaposed against it

turtal, Loose Change 5 Comments [4/15/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: chipmunk stew

Quote# 24767

The question is why would someone call anyone that goes against the official government line a kook, simple, by insults over and over again you hope that people will get tired and go away. You are here to protect this administration and this government and those that killed all of those people on 9/11 period.

If you were at all wise, you would inderstand that questioning is a part of what makes you free, and a free thinker, otherwise you are nothing more than a robot mind controled zombie shill that does nothing but follow orders, like using nothing more than your reptilian brain, this is what you are doing, I hope you are being paid well, although you cannot take it with you but where you will be going, you will wish that you could.

commondreamer, United 93 0 Comments [4/15/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: chipmunk stew
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