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Quote# 15492

[Thread Title : Homosexual Activist Targets Colorado Family with Hate Crime]

These people are beyond saving.

They are committed Anti-Christs.

They are determined to take everything you and I and most decent God fearing people believe in, such as 1 man + 1 woman = 1 marriage, 1 family and turn it into something blasphemous and wrong.

What is worse, they have no fear of backlash, which is why they are doing this to this family.

Now that's interesting.

saved2001, FulfilledProphecy 7 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 15490

[H]ow old would a mountain appear, if God created it? A full grown mountain, not a baby mountain, not a youth mountain, not a teen-age mountain? Would it appear one day old to these radiometric tests the day He created it, or would it apprear older?

kommish77, Cool Running Clubhouse 21 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Wet Willie
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Quote# 15488

The average American out there loves the show "24," OK? They love Jack Bauer, they love "24." In my mind, that's as close to a national referendum that it's OK to use tough tactics against high-level al-Qaida operatives as we're ever going to get.

Laura Ingraham, FOX News 56 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gadren
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Quote# 15487

nobody understands evolution because it doesnt happen. Evolution theory cant prove one case of any animal changing from one kind to another. Or organ evolution, all organ evolution...Or how planets evolved, or stars forming...or the sun and earth and planets positions and how they depend on each other..or the elemental table...Or NUMEROUS other things god made perfect...like DNA molecules..protein chains exc...chromosomes and on and on and on...basically everything

Jesus-IS-Savior, bibleforums.org 32 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 15485

Even scientists have admitted that the dating of fossils is faulty. I find it very confusing when I am told that we were once monkies, yet there are no fossils proving this. As someone said the make up of a monkey is close to ours, but still not the same.
Another thing that puzzles me is that scientists try to tell us that humans existed at the same time dinosaurs did, yet there is no mention of this in the Bible. I am sure as big and mean as they were, there would be a mention somewhere. I am also sure that IF they existed at the same time as man, that man would NOT be at the top of the food chain. Also, if they existed where are they mentioned in all of the historical writings?
God Bless.

jesuslover1968, bibleforums.org 36 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 15484

It is ridiculous to me that intelligent human beings actually believe we come from apes. On the other hand, I do not mean to insult their intelligence. Evolution is more a religion than a belief. I think those who believe in it should be very careful and pray that they are doing the right thing. I could never believe in it unless God Himself told me it was so.

jesuslover1968, bibleforums.org 30 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 15483

[closed thread title: Does your work affect you position on evolution?]

Yes, I work as a oil distributor. Because of this I have had to take three courses in lubrication, and filtration. Learning the history of how some base stocks of oils came to be. And why. Plus that there are ways to make petroleum oil, in less than a day. Made me realize that the millions of years of decay for dinos, and biomass to make crude oil. Does not take millions of years. Which made me search for evidence as to how science came to this conclusion.

What I found is that this conclusion is based on an assumption and not fact. And there is no evidence that the break down of such materials takes that long. But what I did find was that other people took and applied the same conditions, found in the ground, to simuliar materials (turkey, chicken parts. And sewage) and made oil in less than a day.
I found that the only reason that science made the claim of millions of years is because they say dinos lived that far back. And they knew that a lot of the material that oil was made from, came from them. So without testing the assumption, it was accepted and taught as fact. Fact with no scientific testing or method or evidence.

This is one of the many things that set me on a course of doubting evolution, and accepting creation.

Ikester7579, bibleforums.org 26 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 15481

Jesus says in Matthew 5:37 (Show Context) "But let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No.' For whatever is more than these is from the evil one". If we take a look at evolution - the smallest working part - we should be able to determine whether evolution is good for us or not as a theory. Should the part we look at, which at the moment is mutation, be good, we should be able to determine how good evolution will be for us; should mutation be bad, we should be able to determine how great a problem evolution warns us against.

What this poll aims to show is that opinion is and will be naturally divided as to whether mutation is good or bad (the very word is ambiguous). It is my belief that evolution is evil and a work of the Devil that simply disguises an unacceptable ambiguity as something substantial and good when it is not - I determine this belief from the words of my Lord Jesus recorded above.

Just an advisory: if you would like to call me or my family names in the discussion that follows, don't forget to indicate just how derogatory (or praiseworthy) the name is, if the name is obscure (I consider "Cro-Magnon descendent" derogatory and I currently consider Latin names obscure). Naturally, it is not expected that there will be praise for me or my family and I reserve the right to object.

Gottservant, Christian Forums 27 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Axver
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Quote# 15480

(dont compare being gay to commiting a felony it's not the same they do not do anything wrong in the eyes of the government they are really good people usually so why should the government deny the marriage and dont base your awnser on some religious reason because are country is not based on christianity)

You completely missed my point with the felony thing. My father can't vote, therefore gay people have more rights than him. I was comparing the two to say that gay people have more human rights than felons do, and felons are the only citizens in this country to not have all of their rights. I'mnot saying gay people are like felons, try looking in between the lines dude. The country actually was based on religion, when Christopher Columbus came over because they wanted freedom of religion... I never said that our country was founded on anything... BUT we should deny gay marriage because it is a union between a man and a woman, it says so in the Bible. If you choose to be gay, you are also choosing a lifestyle, one that this country doesn't allow marriage or adoption.

Chrissy, Myspace 27 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen
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Quote# 15479

I agree with Jo, they have human rights that are the same as anyone else. No one denies gay people anything unless it's marriage-related. It's understandable why gay people can't adopt, every child needs a mother and father if given the opportunity.. instead of having to be ridiculed by ignorant people all throughout their childhood for having gay parents. Gay people have more rights than my father does, he can't even vote all because of a non-violent felony from when he was younger. No one has tried telling gay people they can't vote... THEN our country would be denying them their human rights.

Chrissy, Myspace 27 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen
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Quote# 15478

[The Sun will not "burn out" per se, it will only run out of fuel. It will be unable to fuse heavier elements into even heavier elements.]

Utterly false. What you really mean to say is that IF this state of PO went on for billions of years, that is what would happen. That is meaningless! Unless you can prove that it will go on!

[NOTE: This this thread is really worth a read. Its got JohnR7 chipping in as well. Beware of totally batshit insane craziness.]

dad, Christian Forums 19 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Archangel_Lucifer
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Quote# 15475

When I read things, or hear things of people disrespecting God, making jokes about him, or just saying plain nasty things about him. I can't help but clench my teeth and just want to sock the person out! I can't help but judge them. I think "how could they have the GUTS to disrespect my father so much". I get so angry inside! I just want to scream at them and slap some sense into them!

And I know I'm not suppost to judge, but how can't I when they disrespect the person I love most in my life?!

CaityBoBaity™ [JesusFreak], The Christian Teens of Myspace 33 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: stereom
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Quote# 15473

All American citizens have certain rights because they are American citizens. Nobody I know of is trying to strip homosexuals or adulterers or liars of their citizenship, right to vote, right to own property, right to a trial by jury if accused of a crime, or any other legal right given to all adult Americans.

Homosexuals shouldn't have extra rights simply because they're homosexuals. They have no right to marry to each other. Cultures around the world for thousands of years only give men and women the right to marry. Two men shouldn't be allowed to marry each other any more than a man should be able to marry his dog or his sister.

Bill, Myspace 23 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen
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Quote# 15472

[A fourteen year old discusses her abusive father, gets loads of crap from Christians:"He's hit me, and done nothing, while I was crying, but say, sorry rachel, and do nothing else, he's called me fat because me and my older sister were joking around about my weight, he said "it was for my own protection", that time, he made me go from laughing to crying. he FAVORS my little sister, that's right a "christian" man who favors???!!?"]

Mrs. Citizen :):
From what I got from from this, is a father who is trying his best.
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and you are a christian girl who seems to hate? No one is perfect, forgiveness is key, I am not saying you have to spend time with him, just respect him and forgive his actions. Hate's a burden, and it hurts both of you.
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Once again, Im not trying to be rude, but you need to look at yourself. You are being awefully self-righteous. People make mistakes, People sin.

Chrissy: I don't mean to be condescending in any kind of way, but at your young age, it's hard to understand the reasons behind why your father says or does things that are in your best interest. He has personal struggles he goes through, that you might not be clued in on. I'd suggest trying to have a more open and relaxed relationship with your dad, it sounds like you're always on edge around him.

Jo-Mama: Sorry but I dont believe everything you are telling us. There is something really wrong with your story.

I have a problem with you ripping your father apart to pieces. The way you describe him - he's the devil himself, and that's where you lose credibility.

I think you need to be more honest here.

Jo-Mama, Mrs. Citizen, Chrissy, Christian Teens of Myspace 44 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sierra
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Quote# 15471

Homeschooling stinken rocks, no pot dealers, no people picking on you, no morons. On top of all that you get to learn at your own pace rather then the pace of the slowest kid in class. So instead of spending a whole semester of basic math we get about a week of reveiw and then learn new stuff(yay!!) Plus you dont have to listen to the teacher condemn Creation but say evolution is real.

\\,,/Jesus_Freak86\\,,/, Myspace 29 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 15468

The New Jerusalem decends from Heaven or from above to the earth. This is a city of I think 1500 sq miles that will become the capital of the world.

You can see it will be a very fancy place. Now we are doing good to build out of granite & marble. But then they will be using a transparent gold to pave the streets. The gates of the city will be made out of what traditionaly have been precious stones. Of course even now crystals of different colors are not as rare as they use to be. People are able to grow them out in their garage. If you go to a gem show you can buy very large pieces of what use to be precious stones.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 25 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Theironpaperclip
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Quote# 15467

The bible states that those who do not know GOD, and do evil on the earth, will pay eternally. YOU'LL SEE. DON'T EVEN DARE WRITE ME BACK ARUGUING THAT I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M SAYING. I will not read your comments. God lives, if you were smart and open-minded, you'll take my comments wisely, and you'll be blessed afterwards. But for the other dumbfounded people, who probably don't even know about the crisis in the mid-east, I'll rest my case here.

(...)

I'M GOING TO RESTATE MY COMMENT WHICH I HAD UNDER ANOTHER SIMILAR VIDEO.
YOU PEOPLE DON'T COME TO GRIPS WITH REALITY, AND KNOW THAT THERE IS A GOD. YOU DON'T KNOW THE TRUTH; I CANNOT LIVE MY LIFE WITH IGNORANCE. God EXISTS! You don't even have proof to support your statement that he doesn't. History books in the US cover the early stories of Jesus Christ, the disciples, and e.t.c.
There is a period B.C, before Christ.

abigal90, YouTube comments 24 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 15466

You are guilty of mutation, but the power of Jesus can take it away

When you mutate it is because you did not believe in Jesus, the One by whom all things exist and are created (John 1:3). If you had believed in Jesus you would be able to exist without needing to mutate. Neither would you attempt to mutate because you would be living as you were designed to live.

The bible records many cases where the power of Jesus overcame the results of mutations, even the very doubt associated with mutation.

[Quotations from three Bible verses about Jesus healing the disabled.]

Only the Devil would want these people to remain disabled and less than the best that they could be. Only someone who rejected God's power to heal would say "those people should be deformed" and do nothing to help them.

The power of Jesus is there to be discovered by everyone. Jesus said in John 16:24 "Until now you have asked nothing in My name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be complete". If you have mutations that you don't want, Jesus has made it possible to be rid of them!

Gottservant, Christian Forums 28 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Axver
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Quote# 15465

[responding to thread about Creation, evolution, and dolphins]

We think so highly of our self. Pity. Salvation is simple and so is understanding His creation. I say what matters is where you are going to spend eternity.

1Cor13v13, Christianforums.com 9 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: quantumspirit
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Quote# 15464

One day soon some of us will be sipping from the River of Life in Heaven while the rest of these Evo-chimps are scorched for eternity in Hell.

I wonder if they'll really, really feel that their choice of rebellion against God and His perfect Word was worth it then.

[...]

Pass the barbecue sauce...



Gargantua, Free Republic 39 Comments [9/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 15463

New Jerusalem is made of eternal transparent gold, and it will land on an eternal earth here. In heavens that are eternal, and where trees gow a different fruit in some cases every single month of the year.
Human eternal bodies there will be composed of eternal matter, like the ressurected body of Jesus, that could appear, and go through doors, and yet was physical also, and could eat, and drink.
This means that Christians by and large accept that a different state of the universe is coming. This is what we believe. We the majority of Christians on earth.
A heaven where animals like lions will again eat straw like an ox, as originally created. A place where we can fly, even the horses can fly. A place where angels and God walk, and live, as well as us.
A state unlike the present one.
We do not appreciate those who, with no possible evidence claim that our galaxy will crash, sun burn out, and earth fade away one day, especially to children.
Stop it please.

dad, Christian Forums 40 Comments [9/29/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 15462

By definition, there has never been and never will be any possibility of right wing totalitarianism. By definition: totalitarianism = leftism; leftism = totalitarianism. For example, Communism, Nazism, and fascism are all leftist and are all totalitarians. Since modern American liberalism is closely related to Communism, Nazism, and fascism, it has strong totalitarian tendencies. In sharp contrast, the right is, by definition, anti-totalitarian.

Naturalized-Texan, Free Conservatives 56 Comments [9/29/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 15460

[Bleedingvines post on FSTDT about vampires in the Bible]

[First they found dinosaurs in the bible, now vampires.]

Now hold on just a minute. Just from the quotes I can tell the people on there (at least some, I haven't even looked at the site) obviously know very little about Scripture and context.

The book of Proverbs uses a lot of poetic structure, for example:

Proverbs 20:17
Food gained by fraud tastes sweet to a man, but he ends up with a mouth full of gravel.

Anyone should be able to discern that this is poetic, not literal. Its meaning should be obvious.

Now about dinosaurs, a large sea creature called 'Leviathan' in the Bible is mentioned (this could be something like a plesiosaur) and an enormous land dwelling creature is mentioned as 'Behemoth' and its legs are described as Cedars (the tree. this could be any number of large dinosaurs for which we've found fossils). THAT'S how they have found mention of dinosaurs in Scripture, not making ridiculous extensions of metaphors into literal meanings.
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"You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe--and tremble!"

Commander, StrangeTalk 18 Comments [9/29/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 15457

[What if you went before God when you died - and discovered that it was Allah? What would you do?]

If the above happened, then I would be glad that I'd had the opportunity to live for Jesus while upon the earth, and refuse the presence of Allah.

This is the question martyrs face: will my faith hold in the face of death? If I want the answer to that question to be yes, then I make preparations (i.e., I live my life) beforehand to acheive that glorious outcome!

The Virginian, Christian Forums 16 Comments [9/29/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 15456

[What if you went before God when you died - and discovered that it was Allah? What would you do?]

I guess, at that point, I would be awfully sorry that I wasted all of my time on Earth seeking a Being who was just a mere man, even though He raised from the dead a corpse stiff for four days, fed 5,000 people from only two fish and five loaves of bread and still ended up with enough extra food to fill 12 baskets full, transmaterialized an entire boat with it's crew while on the Sea of Galilee to it's western shore, etc., etc., etc. Who but a Divine Being could perform such feats? I'll trust Him beyond death's door to show up on the Throne of Glory and not Islam's Allah, and I will do it for those aforementioned reasons and many other personal ones that I will always treasure up in my heart.

hlaltimus, Christian Forums 20 Comments [9/29/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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