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Quote# 91803

Evolution can be split into two: Evolution Theory and Micro-evolution.

One of those is entirely faith based, which even started via a hoax - it's far from sciences.

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Human DNA/Chromosomes is more related to the tobacco plant over ape/chimp. If we are allowed to "continue evolving" we may someday be tobacco plants, or even better maybe even the ultimate life form, a fern with 480 chromosomes!

If Evolution is real, we would be actually be de-evolving at a slow rate? Natural selection would just be slowing down this rate. According to the Evolution Theory (and Hoax from which it started) we where originally ape like creatures, we de-evolved into humans - losing most our ability to grip with feet, our tail for support and extra hold, becoming slower, lazier, fatter, defenseless creatures compared to the apes which happen to still be around?

The evolution theory was created for fame and greed starting off as a hoax. Any one with a slight education and half a brain cell can see that - sorry, Evolutionist Ape-Man followers, go back to watching your "Planet of the Apes" movies.

Micro-evolution however has some facts/research behind it, this however is just the fact that a creature can ADAPT and change to it's environment. This is the good researched side of evolution which starts to make logical sense, however we currently know: DNA mutations cause more damage that good. The only differences is the religous believe the DNA is already encoded and it is simply toggled to adapt.

This however supports religion even more... so they must still follow the hoax of the apeman, it's their faith to consider themselves a monkey without purpose in life.

dload, Yahoo Answers 63 Comments [12/31/2012 4:35:23 AM]
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Quote# 91800

A Catholic priest in Italy has created a firestorm by claiming that women bring violence on themselves by serving cold food and dressing provocatively.

Father Piero Corsi of Liguria sparked outrage after members of his congregation posted his Christmas bulletin onto Facebook. The flyer, entitled “Women and femicide – healthy self-criticism. How often do they provoke?” said victims of domestic and sexual violence should question if they were themselves to blame for the incident.

The flyer said women “provoke the worst instincts” and “should search their consciences and ask: did we bring this on ourselves?”

“The fact is that women are increasingly provocative, they become arrogant, they believe themselves to be self-sufficient and end up exacerbating the situation,” Corsi added. “Children are abandoned to their own devices, homes are dirty, meals are cold or fast food, clothes are filthy.”

He later added fuel to the fire by suggesting an Italian reporter must be gay if he wasn’t enticed by a picture of a nude woman.

Father Piero Corsi, The Raw Story 52 Comments [12/31/2012 4:33:15 AM]
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Quote# 91786

It is hard to rationalize, but I know hell is a real place because I have experienced it's keepers... I have seen them more than once, and they really hated me like they hate all humans..

Humankind was alread destined for total termination because of it's wickedness, and we all already deserve hell..

If you don't believe this, then perhaps the righteousness you are attributing to yourself will save your soul.. good luck with that one..

Only because of Christ can you be pardoned... believe or don't believe, no one is forcing anyone to believe it..

It's easy to jump on the bandwagon and not believe, it is much harder to believe.. It does begin with faith, but it isn't only limited to just blind faith, because many alive today have been visited by Christ himself in this current age..He had mercy on me, although I often wonder why.. I just hope I can fulfill my mission and do my part because I know hell exists and I definitely do not want to go there..

If any of you ever see hells minions you will know immediately who they are and you will be able to feel their hatred like a terminal disease.. because of what I know, I will never tell someone to go to hell, I wouldn't wish that place on the worst of the worst, it is that bad.

Knowing what I know:

1: Hell = very bad
2: I don't want to go there.
3: I'll do whatever it takes to not go there:
4: All I have to do is believe in Christ as a first step or just proudly live life and disregard all accountability...

Ill take the first option...
I fear God and I fear being sent to hell, and I apologize very often.. Humility is a virtue that the proud do not possess..pride is what happened to hells boss, didn't work out very well..

No, it doesn't seem rational, but neither does a whole lot of things..

alienreality, Above Top Secret 47 Comments [12/30/2012 6:12:24 AM]
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Quote# 91784

Since "science" the scientific principle and the scientific approach are all creations of man and man is an imperfect creature, then it lends to thought that man's theories are also imperfect. This is proved by man as he has yet to create any "perfect" item. (and I do mean any) If "man" with our imperfect minds is somehow right about evolution then our lives are fruitless, amounting to nothing, and death should be no more than a moment's passing thought When man dies he returns to dust having not improved anything...he has just moved along the evolutionary time line.

If Christians are right, then at death man without belief will find his soul in one hell of a hot place.

Since neither theory can yet be proven correct or incorrect your use of the word "fact" is erroneous, once again proving that man and his theories are imperfect.

You will note that man's science books are outdated in 5 years and are constantly being updated to "fit" new "evidence". Religion has no such updating now does it?

Those who fail to challenge idiocy are destined to be governed by it!

George Paddeck, Live Science 46 Comments [12/30/2012 6:11:57 AM]
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Quote# 91766

(a news report about Russian underpopluation)
This is the end result of a Communist/atheistic state that hated the Jews and wanted no part of God. They are a dying culture because women no longer what children! The family unit was destroyed by sin, just like what is happening in America. Every year, the Russian population is shrinking by nearly one million and aging. Very soon, it can never recover and just die. This is the fate of the entire West with Russia leading the way.

I believe that Russia’s attack on Israel as described in Ezekiel 38 must come soon, or Russia will never be able to mount such an attack.


John Mcternan, John Mcternan's insights 39 Comments [12/29/2012 2:34:30 PM]
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Quote# 91762

Ever notice that reptiles are a rare breed as a species in that they are one of the few species that NEVER stop growing throughout their entire lifespan? According to the Scripture they also did not eat meat in the beginning but rather the green herbs and plants. Suppose for a moment the possibility of an evil fallen race of angelic-spirit beings coming down to earth and altering the genetic code of the living creation of YHWH 'Elohiym until they finally discovered that reptiles never stop growing? or that perhaps even their own alterations caused this anomaly? They apparently altered reptiles for their own purposes: to feed their own Titan-Giant offspring which 1-Enoch states that they had hoped would live five hundred years or more. Apparently one of the adverse side affects of the genetic manipulation was that some of the reptiles like T-Rex also began eating flesh instead of herbs.

daq, Grace Centered Christian Forums 45 Comments [12/29/2012 2:33:57 PM]
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Quote# 91760

The Times opposes bans on same-sex marriage because they are "based on nothing more substantive than a belief in the immorality of homosexuality."

My word, immorality is not a good enough reason to ban sodomy? If morality is not the bedrock of our laws, then they all rest on shifting sand and we might as well recognize as "normal" adultery, polygamy, prostitution and the like. After all, proponents of these aberrations have as valid a claim to discrimination as do homosexuals.

Rafael Villa, LA Times 36 Comments [12/29/2012 2:33:46 PM]
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Quote# 91758

Technology is a fruit of one's world view, and I think world history will bear out that as a society is just and free, technology skyrockets.

Where a society becomes unjust, atheistic and/or pagan, technology takes a dive.

Aaron, Baptistboard 39 Comments [12/29/2012 2:33:29 PM]
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Quote# 91755

Every single thing that is wrong with the world is due to the filthy Jew. Every war that has ever been started is because of the Jew-vermin, and it is only the kikes that benefit.

Jesus had them pegged exactly right when he called them the children of Satan. The Jew is Satan personified.

Hitler's biggest mistake is that he didn't gas the Jews.

The fire next time!

three in one, Stormfront 54 Comments [12/29/2012 11:24:59 AM]
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Quote# 91744

No commemoration of the day that 3,000 people were murdered by Muslim terrorists would be complete without more Muslim whining that they are the real victims of their own attacks.

CNN has decided that the best way to commemorate September 11 would be with an editorial from one Sumbul Ali-Karamali with the obscene title, “American Muslims live in fear 11 years after 9/11?.

Right. They do. It’s not Americans who have to live in fear. It’s not Americans who are targeted for terrorist plots by Muslims in America every single year. It’s not Americans who are afraid of being killed, it’s Muslims, who have to “live in fear” because someone somewhere said something mean to them.

Shall we compare the number of Americans killed by Muslims in the last ten years with the number of Muslims in America killed for reasons of prejudice? The numbers would be lacking to the point of absurdity.

This shameless whinefest isn’t about fear, it’s about political influence. It’s devoid of even the faintest tinge of human decency. Like the Ground Zero Mosque, the goal is to hijack the dialogue and make it all about Muslims. On September 11 and on Ground Zero, there is this egotistical obsession with defiling even the graves of the dead.

“The defamatory rhetoric directed at Muslims and Islam in this country has little to do with the actual religion or its adherents and everything to do with fear of the Other,” Sumbul Ali-Karamali asserts.

Clearly. Today we commemorate an event that had no basis in reality, just fear of the other. The World Trade Center, Fort Hood, Times Square, the Portland Christmas Tree Lighting Ceremony, the Christmas Flight Bombing Plot and so many others… just fear of the other.

There’s nothing about Islam that leads its adherents to commit violence. And when terrorist after terrorist gets up in court and quotes the Koran, that has nothing to do with Islam. Over a thousand years of horrifying atrocities never happened either.

Daniel Greenfield, FrontPage Magazine 38 Comments [12/29/2012 8:50:02 AM]
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Quote# 91742

Anonymous asked: My boyfriend recently asked me if we could have sex. I tried to explain to him that asking me to have sex with him counts as sexual assault, but he couldn't understand it that piv sex is ONLY okay if I am the one who asks for it. Can you help me try to explain why what he's doing when he asks for sex is misogynistic?

It seems he doesn’t understand sexual harassment to such a degree for all intents and purposes is basically sexual assault.

This is normal; men in general don’t understand even the most basic tactful ways to approach women.

A rule of thumb is that if you can see him, hear him and feel him it’s most definitely sexual assault. Now does that mean that just because you can’t feel him it isn’t sexual assault? No. That’s just something rape culture says. Going by that line of reasoning it wouldn’t be sexual assault if you simply couldn’t feel him as you’d been administered some sort of anesthesia.

So through absurdity reduction we rule out that it’s necessary to feel him. If you can hear him, see him and you feel sexually assaulted then you have been sexually assaulted.

He’s being misogynistic for saying he doesn’t understand. Declarations of boundary are to be followed, not necessarily understood. What he’s saying by replying that he doesn’t understand is that he needs to understand why he shouldn’t violate your boundaries and that’s deeply misogynistic; he wouldn’t need that justification from another man.

Anonymous, Feminism Rising 52 Comments [12/29/2012 8:49:38 AM]
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Quote# 91741

" But my hairdresser is so CUTE, and he always tells me how cute my outfit is. I can't judge him! But my nephew is such a sweetie, and he always played with dolls, even when he was little. How dare you say he can't have sex!"

Because what your hairdresser and your nephew do with other men when you aren't there, namely jamming their penises up into each other's feces-laden colons and mouths and using that as a point of masturbatory friction, is so depraved and so incredibly evil, inhuman and disgusting that it makes Our Lord NAUSEOUS, and is so twisted that even the demons choose to withdraw instead of staying around and witnessing it.

Remember 20 years ago before you allowed yourself to be desensitized to sodomitical behavior by the agitporn on the teevee? Remember when the sight of two men or two women in even the slightest homosexual activity, or even the IMPLICATION of homosexual activity, made you nauseous, frightened, sad and disgusted all at the same time? That is healthy. That is the way it is supposed to be. If you have become desensitized to this evil, beg God to regenerate that part of you so that you once again can have a right-ordered and Godly response to it. Because if you are indifferent to it, satan wins, because not only will no one help people with same-sex attractions carry their cross in chastity, but now we will have the very people who should be helping them (the Church) actually sticking their foot in their back and PUSHING THEM down the road to hell.

So, when you see and hear people on the so-called "right" saying that we have to throw in the towel on this, understand that they are fully in the service of satan, whether they realize it or not. And STEER WELL CLEAR.

Ann Barnhardt, Barnhardt.biz 54 Comments [12/29/2012 8:48:09 AM]
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Quote# 91740

No mention of a return to discipline in the schools? What about our Godless culture, fomented by teachers on behalf of their socialist unions? No men at home, no men in the schools, no men in daycare.. What ELSE does everyone expect from lawless, fearless boys raised with no discipline, no direction, no respect for authority?

As usual, the left is going after the WRONG issue. It's not about guns, it's about CONTROLLING CHILDREN THROUGH DISCIPLINE, and it MUST start at a young age or it's counterproductive.

GeorgeWashingtonsGhost, Free Republic 61 Comments [12/28/2012 9:33:31 AM]
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Quote# 91738

Liberals want ALL humans as defenseless as a fetus.

And you know why.

Liberals love murdering the defenseless. They get sexual pleasure from it.

Mass murderers and serial killers are liberals. ALL OF THEM.

Jimbo, Moonbattery 53 Comments [12/28/2012 9:33:10 AM]
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Quote# 91293

They [missionaries] claim to have witnessed cases of repossession among converts of ancient idolatrous cultures, such as in China and India, and also among aboriginal peoples and primitive civilizations, who live in servile fear and abject bondage to Satan and demons. The claims of these missionaries appear valid



Merril Unger, withchrist.org 38 Comments [12/27/2012 5:50:29 PM]
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Quote# 91015

[Scott Lively on Ugandan president Yoweri Museveni]

The Museveni prayer is a model for all Christian leaders in the world. The leaders of the West have declined in proportion to their degree of rejection of God,” Lively said. Lively also believes Uganda will rise as a major African power as America continues to decline. He uses Britain as an example. “Britain was at its height as a world power when it honored God as the Ugandan president has just done. America’s greatness has similarly diminished as we have shifted from a Christian to a secular-humanist country. But watch now for Uganda to be blessed by God for their desire to be His,” Lively said. Lively added that Museveni is definitely drawing a contrast between Uganda and the West. “This incident is also important as a contrast to the picture being painted of Uganda by the godless left of a backwards, violent and savage culture intent on murdering homosexuals,” Lively said. “On the contrary, Museveni is calmly and confidently setting the course of his nation by the guidance of the Bible, in a way that also shows great courage and resolve,” Lively said.


Scott Lively, Joe. My. God. 29 Comments [12/27/2012 3:24:52 PM]
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Quote# 91723

[In response to a comment about sending liberals to Guantanamo]

That's fine with me - Guantanamo I mean! The Liberal, Progressive Socialists are indeed terrorists as far as I am concerned. They should be able to relate well to the jihadists already there. Perhaps they will convert and no longer be infidels like many or most of us.

jDean, The Spectator 25 Comments [12/27/2012 1:56:33 PM]
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Quote# 91717

(Context: A poll asking if one would visit a church that was giving out free pot to first time visitors as an incentive.)

I don't agree with everything on that page, but it makes great points about cannabis in the Bible, and that Jesus healed using it. Jesus was a medical marijuana practioner.

BRTD, US Election Atlas Forum 43 Comments [12/27/2012 1:55:52 PM]
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Quote# 91706

Linda Harvey, a host of the Ohio based Christian radio station WRFD has warned that the passing of same-sex marriage laws might cause Jesus Christ to marry another man.

The Christian radio host this month said that same-sex marriage encourages children to have gay sex and that gay people aren’t human and should therefore not be protected under the US constitution.

Now discussing the fact that under the implementation of same-sex marriage in some states have caused the words ‘bride’ and ‘groom’ to be replaced with ‘person A’ and ‘person B’, the host considers what would happen if Jesus came back to earth.

She began :”On official marriage documents, the words ‘bride’ and ‘groom’ were going to disappear. When advocates of homosexual marriage say how would two men or two women being allowed to marry change your marriage, here’s one way. Nonsense like this starts showing up and the legitimacy of man-woman marriage is automatically on defense against pretenders to the throne.”

She warned: “Homosexuality, far from being marriage, is always a grave sin in Scripture.”

Switching to Jesus, Mrs Harvey said: “A Christian concept that illustrates the unchanging standard of man and woman as the model for marriage: in the New Testament, Jesus is referred to several times as the ‘bridegroom.’ And when he returns, he will return as a bridegroom seeking his bride: the church, which is the body of all believers, also called the Bride of Christ. It’s a beautiful analogy.

“What happens to such a concept in a same-sex marriage? Does Jesus as bridegroom seek another groom? No, that would be a twisted and frankly offensive spin on a profound and marvelous concept.”

She concluded: “As Christians, we must never accept the idea of same-sex marriage. It certainly doesn’t work as sound Christian doctrine and it will be shown before long not to work as revolutionary secular law either.”



Linda Harvey, Pink News 59 Comments [12/27/2012 5:59:18 AM]
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Quote# 91705

Maybe because I have daughters that I really worry about but I am not liking this line of thought. Granted they are female and thus evil but I would hope that if some nutjob attacked one of them and there were people around that could help without putting themselves at risk that they would help. They are just too many crazies out there for us to have this callous attitude.

Aquaman, Men Going Their Own Way 59 Comments [12/27/2012 5:15:17 AM]
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Quote# 91689

The pope took his opposition to gay marriage to new heights Friday, denouncing what he described as people manipulating their God-given gender to suit their sexual choices — and destroying the very "essence of the human creature" in the process.

Benedict XVI made the comments in his annual Christmas speech to the Vatican bureaucracy — one of his most important speeches of the year. He dedicated it this year to promoting family values in the face of vocal campaigns in France, the United States, Britain and elsewhere to legalize same-sex marriage.

In his remarks, Benedict quoted the chief rabbi of France, Gilles Bernheim, in saying the campaign for granting gays the right to marry and adopt children was an "attack" on the traditional family made up of a father, mother and children.

"People dispute the idea that they have a nature, given to them by their bodily identity, that serves as a defining element of the human being," he said. "They deny their nature and decide that it is not something previously given to them, but that they make it for themselves."

"The manipulation of nature, which we deplore today where our environment is concerned, now becomes man's fundamental choice where he himself is concerned," he said.

It was the second time in a week that Benedict has taken on the question of gay marriage, which is dividing France after proponents scored big electoral wins in the United States last month. In his recently released annual peace message, Benedict said gay marriage, like abortion and euthanasia, was a threat to world peace.

After the peace message was released last week, gay activists staged a small protest in St. Peter's Square.

Church teaching holds that homosexual acts are "intrinsically disordered," though it stresses that gays should be treated with compassion and dignity. As pope and as head of the Vatican's orthodoxy watchdog before that, Benedict has been a strong enforcer of that teaching: One of the first major documents of his pontificate said men with "deep-seated" homosexual tendencies shouldn't be ordained priests.

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"When freedom to be creative becomes the freedom to create oneself, then necessarily the Maker himself is denied and ultimately man too is stripped of his dignity as a creature of God," Benedict said.

Pope Benedict XVI, Yahoo 49 Comments [12/26/2012 7:12:44 PM]
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Quote# 91677

No but I mean if humans CAME from monkeys than the monkeys would be gone but there are still monkeys and PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE SEX with monkeys anyway!! One thing also the evolutoinists say is that the mokeys came from a POOL of slime!! I KNOW Richard Darwins even said that he decided he dint believe in evolution before he died.

psalmjoy, christianforums.com 69 Comments [12/25/2012 12:34:36 PM]
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Quote# 91672

The explanation already exists- you just have to know where to look to find it. The New Age channelers out there in the world have been ramping it up lately, they say loads of things that explain our disappearance. I would point you to the links where you could read for yourself, but I don't think that is a wise thing to do- since these are channeled messages from demonic sources. You really need to be prepared spiritually to look into it. So if you decide to go searching on your own- please seek God's counsel first- pray and be in the word.

But here's the gist

These channeled messages say much about the ascension that is taking place as we speak. Mankind, according to them, is embracing his divinity, the divine nature that all beings possess. They are ascending to godhood- the next phase in the evolution of the earth. They use all kinds of terminology that sounds spiritual- and mystical, but in essence what they are saying is that man will soon become gods. This happens through a process, and part of that process is a movement into a different "vibration" or plane of existence. When mankind ascends- some people will not be ready for it, they will not be ready to move into the next dimension and will be left behind in the old paradigm or dimension. They have so much as said that those who hold to religious dogma will be among them. I have also read that these will be removed to a different dimension aboard spacecraft, where they can take their time and evolve at their own pace. So what they are claiming is that we will be left behind and the rest of the world will move into a new vibration/dimension/plane whatever you call it. This new dimension is the new world- they even use scripture to explain it all- of course taken out of context and interpreted completely wrongly.

This explanation already exists and the New Age influence is growing around the world, in my opinion it is the new age teachings that at least at the moment fit like a glove on the prophetic hand. It is truly cunning and the deception so cunning. It is after all doctrines of demons. Just as Paul wrote to Timothy.

RT

resurrection torchlight, rapture ready 40 Comments [12/25/2012 9:03:21 AM]
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Quote# 91670

[Regarding the upcoming Supreme Court marriage equality decision]

Basically marriage will be completely destroyed, families will be destroyed, children will be hurt by this and freedom of speech and freedom of religion, including in the pulpit itself, will absolutely be bulldozed over. This would open a floodgate of unimaginable proportions. That’s why with those kinds of consequences to have five of the nine justices ultimately have this kind of power in their hands, that’s not how this court and this country was established, to have five individuals to be able to have that kind of catastrophic, social reengineering power in their hands, that’s just not something that was envisioned by the founders.
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This is the thing that revolutions literally are made of. This would be more devastating to our freedom, to our religious freedom, to the rights of pastors and their duty to be able to speak and to Christians around the country, then anything that the revolutionaries during the American Revolution even dreamed of facing. This would be the thing that revolutions are made of. This could split the country right in two. This could cause another civil war. I’m not talking about just people protesting in the streets, this could be that level because what would ultimately happen is a direct collision would immediately happen with pastors, with churches, with Christians, with Christian ministries, with other businesses, it would be an avalanche that would go across the country.
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It’s stunning. That’s why I am very concerned that this has made its way to the United States Supreme Court because only five of those nine can make a decision and so five people, potentially, in the United States, only five out of the hundreds of millions that we have, have in their hand this opportunity to literally wreck marriage, to destroy the very foundation of our family and the biblical definition of marriage. The consequences are staggering. This could be the Roe v. Wade of marriage and family. If we ultimately say as a court and if the country follows it that marriage is between two people of the same sex and it’s now how common sense, history and the Bible ultimately defines it, that has catastrophic consequences. That is staggering and it is actually something that we ought to be in significant prayer about because this could be the unraveling of the United States.

Mat Staver, Right Wing Watch 63 Comments [12/25/2012 9:03:12 AM]
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Quote# 91657

Supreme Court the problem because of taking God out out of our lives.

When they had the ten commandments it said you shall not commit murder signed God. Supreme Court is right up there with Stalin and Hitler on their causing the murder of people. In Israel the the IDF carries their weapons with them and teachers also are armed.

ronbo477, RR 36 Comments [12/25/2012 9:01:50 AM]
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