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Quote# 87586

[This book was written for Jewish parents who want to stop their children from marrying outside the faith.]

Despite the unpleasantness of the situation, strongly emphasize your unwavering love for your child and your concern for his or her ultimate happiness. Don't expect the child to know it. State it explicitly. Your tone of voice must be as loving and sincere as your words.

It is important to make the distinction that you do not reject your child. You reject only your child's actions. Make clear the consequences the child will precipitate by going through with his or her plans to intermarry.

Parents have been successful in preventing an intermarriage by establishing in advance and adhering to the following consequences:
1. They will neither support nor attend the wedding or reception.
2. They will urge their friends and relatives not to attend.
3. The couple, alone or together, will not be invited or welcomed in their home, nor will the parents visit the couple.
4. The only path to a reconciliation is the dissolution of the relationship with the non-Jewish partner.

Rabbi Kalman Packouz, How To Prevent an Intermarriage 88 Comments [5/30/2012 3:35:45 AM]
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Quote# 87583

[Arabic is being taught as an optional course in a NYC school.]

Is the ACLU paying attention? To study Arabic is to study Islam. I don’t particularly care if one studies Arabic, but this level of religious association would be enough to get a Christian study thrown out.

You can’t speak conversational Arabic without invoking the name Allah in every other sentence.

From Wikipedia:

“Some Muslims present a monogenesis of languages and claim that the Arabic language was the language revealed by God for the benefit of mankind and the original language as a prototype symbolic system of communication, based upon its system of triconsonantal roots, spoken by man from which all other languages were derived, having first been corrupted.”

Alan, Moonbattery 74 Comments [5/30/2012 3:33:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog
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Quote# 87580

[Humans are apes in the same way that ducks are birds, and for the same reason.]

That's not a very good comparison because...well ducks ARE birds...

Abishalom, Atheist Forums 69 Comments [5/29/2012 9:03:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Kinnell
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Quote# 87572

(On Obama's support of gay marriage)

The New York Times, declaring that homosexuals' right to marry is "too precious and too fragile to be left up to the whim of states and the tearing winds of modern partisan politics," is looking to the court as the last, best hope to impose same-sex marriage on the nation.

Can't trust voters, can't trust elected legislators, can't trust Congress. Homosexual marriage, says the Times, is too important to be left to democratic decision. The republic must be commanded to accept it by unelected judges who serve for life and against whom the people have no political recourse.

That process of judicial tyranny has begun. A California judge has overturned the decision of California's voters to ban gay marriage, and his ruling is headed for the high court.

The Supreme Court thus will tell us whether this issue is to be decided democratically by voters and their elected state and federal legislators, or dictatorially by themselves.

Four liberal activists on the Supreme Court -- Elena Kagan, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and Sonia Sotomayor -- are probably ready to declare that homosexual marriage is a constitutional right, as their predecessors declared abortion to be a constitutional right.

But Obama needs one more justice. If elected, he will get it, and same-sex marriage will be forced on all of America. If Romney wins, the Supreme Court will likely leave the issue of same-sex marriage to be decided by the people and their elected representatives.

Thus everything is up for grabs this November: the House, the Senate, the presidency, the Supreme Court and whether we still call the United States of America God's country.

Game on!

Pat Buchanan, Real Clear Politics 76 Comments [5/29/2012 8:34:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Dynamic Dragon
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Quote# 87535

The barrage of anti-gay sermons delivered by North Carolina-based pastors to hit the blogosphere continues with yet another disturbing rant caught on tape.

The pastor, identified on YouTube as Charles L. Worley of Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, N.C., condemns President Obama's much-publicized endorsement of same-sex marriage while calling for gays and lesbians to be put in an electrified pen and ultimately killed off.

"Build a great, big, large fence -- 150 or 100 mile long -- put all the lesbians in there," Worley suggests in the clip, reportedly filmed on May 13.

He continues: "Do the same thing for the queers and the homosexuals and have that fence electrified so they can't get out...and you know what, in a few years, they'll die out...do you know why? They can't reproduce!"

He also said that if he's asked who he'll vote for, he'll reply, "I'm not going to vote for a baby killer and a homosexual lover!" Many of the congregants cheer and reply, "Amen."

Worley added, “It makes me pukin’ sick to think about -- I don’t even whether or not to say this in the pulpit -- can you imagine kissing some man?”

The pastor's comments seem in line with statements made by Ron Baity, founding pastor of Berean Baptist Church in Winston-Salem and head of the anti-marriage equality organization Return America, who told his own congregation that lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people should be prosecuted as they were historically, and Pastor Sean Harris of the Berean Baptist Church in Fayetteville who advocated parents "punch" their male child if he is effeminate and "crack that wrist" if he is limp-wristed.

Similarly, Tim Rabon, pastor at Raleigh's Beacon Baptist Church, condemned states such as Massachusetts, Connecticut and Maryland which have already "re-defined" marriage to include lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) couples before asking his congregatnts, "What is stopping them from refining marriage from a person and a beast? We're not far from that."

Pastor Charles L. Worley, Huffington Post 82 Comments [5/29/2012 8:32:32 AM]
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Quote# 87420

[Regarding a study which linked being "born again" to having a smaller hippocampus-the area responsible for learning and memory]

Learning what exactly?

Memorizing whose truth?

Perhaps God shuts down the parts of our minds that would continue to absorb the overwhelming daily propaganda of this world {evolution, the "green" movement, socialism, anti-semitism, gay marriage etc...}

....while filling the void with His ways. Of course secular scientists would see it as "brain atrophy" but I like the trade off!

BarbT, Rapture Ready 69 Comments [5/29/2012 3:07:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Cindy
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Quote# 87304

[On whether nonbelievers could be elected to public office.]

Unfortunately, I think any person who did that would have a difficult time winning. Actually, I don't believe that there is such thing as an atheist because no respectable atheist would walk around with something in his pocket that said 'In God We Trust.' Nonetheless, I think that those of us who understand that we live in a pluralistic nation, we've got to be the ones who tell people openly, in public, on national TV, that we cannot tolerate that, where people make decisions about people who don't have a faith.

Emanuel Cleaver, God Discussion 57 Comments [5/29/2012 3:06:58 AM]
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Submitted By: Wehpudicabok
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Quote# 87570

Every once in awhile I let my 4yr old watch cartoons, and she loves Max and Ruby, the two children rabbits that may live alone cause they never show a parent (except for the occasional grandma rabbit). Well, today's show was about Cinderella, Ruby and her friend were pretending they were both the fairy tale maid-turned-princess, while the brother rabbit was doing stuff. Long story short, the grandma came over to find the real cinderella (i.e. whom ever's foot fit in the glass slipper), and lo andbehold, it fit only on the brother rabbit (not the girls).

I have now cancelled my cable.

livin_in_the_Son, Rapture Forums 71 Comments [5/28/2012 11:43:15 AM]
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Quote# 87562

Well, Elizabeth, currently around 105,000 Christians are murdered every year by any number of non-Christian entities. Over 57 nations ban the preaching of Jesus Christ. Of those, a number ban the possession of the Holy Bible. In 'real' Islamic states, one born into a Muslim family who recants that and accepts Jesus Christ is considered an infidel and the 'family' is legally protected if they stone the convert to death.

So, tell me again why we should NOT ban religions in our Country that are actively engaged in genocide of the Christians in Africa, Middle East, and the Islamic crescent of states?

Ben Joyner, OneNewsNow 56 Comments [5/28/2012 11:36:32 AM]
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Quote# 87557

When someone is debating in an angry hostile manner that is NOT and I repeat NOT free speech.

Coleen Bsm, OneNewsNow 40 Comments [5/28/2012 11:34:41 AM]
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Quote# 87554

Masons do not allow the name Jesus be used in their prayers in their lodges. They are afraid of offending any non-Christians who may be present. Speaks volunes and tells us all we really need to know.

The red fez worn by the Shriners comes from the times when muslims would slaughter Christians and dip their white fez they wore in the blood of the Christians.

Freemasonry is evil, end of story. The end goal is Satan worship. Many of those that are in oit don't realize that until they have too much time and money "invested" in it.

Daniel1210, Rapture Ready 48 Comments [5/28/2012 11:33:52 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog
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Quote# 87546

What will happen next?

What has happened to the good old USA when our president and vice president have endorsed same-sex marriages?

I never thought I would see the day when this would happen.

All Christians, wake up, we do not want this kind of leadership.

The Bible tells us in 1st Corinthians Chapter 6 verse 19 that homosexual offenders will not inherit the kingdom of God.

I know I want to go to heaven. It must be a beautiful place.

Our president was against same-sex marriages when he was running for president. He must feel the homosexual vote is important to get re-elected.

I’ve got news for him. He will certainly lose a lot of Christian votes.

He has got us deeply in debt, ruined our health care, raised taxes and the economy is still bad and now he has revealed he is a non-Christian.

It can’t get any worse than this.

Wake up, good people. Let’s get him out of there before he completely destroys our great country.

Mrs. Reba M. Hadley-Morley, Editorial to the Terre Haute Tribune-Star 47 Comments [5/28/2012 11:27:53 AM]
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Quote# 87545

The problem with Gay people, is that if you look the other way & try to let them have all the same rights as a straight person & whatnot, THEY STILL FORCE THEIR LIFE CHOICE ON EVERYONE ELSE!!! They have this fucking Attitude like "GAY IS THE ONLY RIGHT WAY TO BE & EVERYONE ELSE IS JUST WRONG, & We're gonna Pressure All the Straight People in the world into 'Realizing' that they are gay too (Forcing people to choose gay over straight to fit in w/ them). YOU WANNA BE GAY?!? FINE, GO!!! BUT GO BE GAY QUIETLY & LEAVE PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE THE OTHER LIFE CHOICE ALONE, OR EVENTUALLY YOU (As a type of People) WILL BE FUCKING EXTERMINATED....

thedeem0n , The Slog 54 Comments [5/28/2012 11:27:19 AM]
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Quote# 87539

I've seen videos on youtube where stars admit to selling their soul to the devil in order to become successful and famous. I've also heard about musicians channeling spirits to get inspiration for their music and to help them perform. Michael Jackson for one. The way Beyonce talks about her alter ego Sasha Fierce definitely sounds like she's being possessed by a spirit that's performing through her.

medieval_lady83, christianforums 61 Comments [5/27/2012 6:37:45 AM]
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Quote# 87537

[coalition of Jacksonville pastors campaigning against proposed LGBT non-discrimination ordinance]

We oppose this bill for multiple reasons. First, fundamental evangelical Christians with a biblical worldview agree homosexuality is an abominable sin according to Romans 1:22-32, and anyone supporting this bill may be in danger of having a "reprobate mind". Therefore we are refuting the small group of local pastors supporting this bill as they do not represent the majority of main stream Christianity. Second, we our calling on the city council to repent and reject this bill for these reasons. We reject the theory that this is an "anti discrimination bill" as the bill takes away the rights of the majority of our citizens and gives special rights and class to a small minority of people. We have spoken so politically correct we have desensitized a generation to homosexuality, it is not an alternative lifestyle, it is sodomy, perversion and sin. We know God will bless or curse this city according to our law and public policy as Proverbs 14:34 states "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people."

Jacksonville anti-gay pastors, Joe. My. God. 48 Comments [5/27/2012 6:37:35 AM]
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Submitted By: Aspergus
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Quote# 87525

The Mississippi state lawmaker who cited a Bible passage on Facebook calling for gay men to be "put to death" has taken to the social networking site again to refuse to apologize for the remark.

Rep. Andy Gipson (R-Braxton) went on Facebook Friday to say that although he has been receiving emails and calls from around the country about his citation of Leviticus 20:13, as well as Romans 1:26-28, in a May 10 Facebook post on President Barack Obama's endorsement of gay marriage, he will not say he's sorry. The emails have come in response to a petition calling on the lawmaker to issue an apology and to meet with LGBT groups in Mississippi.

"To be clear, I want the world to know that I do not, cannot, and will not apologize for the inspired truth of God's Word. It is one thing that will never 'change,'" Gipson wrote. "Anyone who knows me knows I also believe that all people are created in God's image, and that all people are loved by God, so much so that He gave us the truth of His Word which convicts us of the reality and guilt of our sin, and He gave us His Son Jesus who paid the full penalty for all our sins, by His grace through our faith in Him as we repent of our sin. John 3:16. It is this message that I preach every Sunday. I sincerely pray God will reach someone through this message."

Gipson is a Baptist minister and a business lawyer when not serving in the Legislature. He notes in his official state biography that his family are "of the Christian faith, and are affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention."

Mississippi State Rep. Andy Gipson (R), Huffington Post 75 Comments [5/26/2012 3:20:17 AM]
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Quote# 87511

Much as it will pain my atheist friends to hear this, the role of reason in the Western world was invented by the Greek, upheld by the Romans, and when those Romans became Christians, Reason was merged, melted and mated to the Christian religion so that one cannot accept Christ without excepting reason, and cannot accept Reason without accepting Christ.

Reason without Christ, if elevated to the sum and final Good of Man, leads to inhuman anger like Marx or inhuman selfishness like Ayn Rand, or inhuman angry selfishness like Dawkins, or inhuman inhumanity like Peter Singer.

John C. Wright, John C. Wright's Journal 70 Comments [5/26/2012 3:15:13 AM]
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Submitted By: David
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Quote# 87510

Christianity and Authority



Want to turn someone off to Christianity immediately? Explain to them that it is a foundationally authoritarian religion.

It is. Really. Christ did not say "Follow your conscience"; he said "Follow me."

The Bible bristles with commandments and instructions, often to excruciating detail and with elaborate (and frequently violent) punishments for infractions. And it is soaked through with authoritarian imagery: crowns (of thorns), yokes (Christ's gentle one vs. the heavy one of sin), thrones, kingdoms and kings, Fathers and mothers.

Modern man hates all order and authority and therefore cannot tolerate this. So when he does not reject Christianity outright (95% of the time) in favor of either atheism or something that appeals to his instinct for solipsistic self-worship (e.g., Buddhism), he will try to rationalize this business away through flimsy neo-Marcionite heresies, declaring Christ to be the completion and perfection of the mean old fuddy-duddy God of the Old Testament. (For why exactly this is a heresy, consult John 10:30).

So Christianity is necessarily and foundationally authoritarian, and the logical consequence of this is that Catholicism, which adheres most closely to this authoritarian ideal, is a very easy religion to comprehend. The rules are laid out: simply follow them. If you don't like it, if you have doubts, just shut up and follow them, anyway. And it's for this reason that the talk of conscience in the present Catechism strikes me as especially dangerous. Nearly everyone nowadays is pregnant with the spirit of Protestantism and so interprets conscience to mean "whatever I intuit the good to be," which of course has led us to the present catastrophic collapse in the moral integrity of the Church. How many contracepting Catholics have I argued with who have cloaked themselves in the armor of "conscience" and thereby rendered themselves invincible to every appeal to reason, tradition, Scripture, and Catechism? I've lost count. Conscience has become the dagger with which Catholic quislings backstab the bride of Christ. In practice it is not much more than the will to disbelieve.

When I try to explain this -- even to Catholics -- I'm invariably accused of conformity and blind submission. All of which is not only absolutely true but absolutely mandatory of all Christians, which has precisely been my point all along!

Submit to God's will completely and without reservation and be saved, or insist on your autonomy and rot in Hell. It shouldn't be a hard choice.


proph, collapse the blog 78 Comments [5/26/2012 3:14:55 AM]
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Quote# 87508

[Court rules NY town's prayer violated Constitution]

This court's ruling is bogus even if the town DID purposely emphasize Christianity. It's up to the town. Seems even the courts cannot be trusted to adhere to the 1st Amendment. You see, when a COURT dictates that a town MUST include muslim prayer, or atheist rants, or buddhist monks, then the government HAS established a religion. And, to full stop the argument that the court is "only" saying all religions must be accepted, that in itself is exactly a religion itself - the anti-christ's religion.

William Rooks, OneNewsNow 28 Comments [5/26/2012 3:14:39 AM]
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Quote# 87498

I can not understand how anybody can believe this fairytale.
I studied genetics myself, but I can not buy that evolution can work. By mutations never appear anything genuinely new and certainly not completely new complex features.

It is a fairytale no matter how long time we are giving for it, and of course it has to be incomprehensible timescale so we wont think about it just buy it.
If you think about it yourself you must admit that it is impossible 1. from nothing to something, 2. a planet which is absolutely unique, 3. the diversity of the living on earth, 4. a unique human being which is nothing like any other form of life with morality, and capability of unselfish love.
There is one acceptable answer for all this and that is that everything was created by the Almighty God.
The One True God who we are able to get to know from the Hebrew Bible. And we find answers for all questions who we are why are we here, and why are we here, what happens after death, why there is death, pain and suffering, who is our hope in this life, and what is eternal life and how to receive it.


shema, Scientific American comment 60 Comments [5/24/2012 1:53:08 PM]
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Submitted By: Karana
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Quote# 87496

[Chabad posts on its website a letter from a Catholic nun, who was in a relationship with a Jewish woman.]

Beware of the dangers of tragic stories

We want to be compassionate kind human beings and that sometimes can gradually lead to too much toleration.

Personalized heart-breaking stories can lead or manipulate more and more good people to making long-term incremental changes that eventually harm their own community. First comes recognition of the ‘pain’ of others with our empathy and sympathy, then some measure toleration, then more toleration and acceptance, and finally Laws are amended.

The politically-correct liberalization of Judaism in America with Jews re-writing the Laws to fit their modern social and political values and placate their egos has created a Holocaust of Assimilation and brought great damage to our families.

Publishing such a story pushes for some limited degree of emotional acceptance for homosexual couples and interfaith marriages. This is a line that should not have been breached.

Anonymous, NYC, Chabad 52 Comments [5/24/2012 3:47:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch
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Quote# 87471

Ignorance is bliss.... The factless Copernican system is plagued with flaws and even Nick admitted to it's fallacy (as well as Galileo). Of course, this 'sun centered' (sun worship) system requires the moon to shift into reverse orbit, which is the direct opposite of what is observed. In addition, by shifting the moon's orbit into 'reverse', there should be a lunar eclipse each month, yet this does not occur, hence what we observe is truly taking place, i.e. the heavens are moving east to west. Indeed, a mere three-year-old can debunk the heliocentric myth.

I'll enjoy true, observable science which happens to be Scriptural as well while at the same time destroying fake science 'backed' with fraud. Earth is fixed.

nasarthebest, Fox News 84 Comments [5/22/2012 2:53:09 AM]
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Quote# 87468

I've heard one to the effect that the earth is going to suddenly emit some massive electrical type of energy that will immediately disintigrate anyone who's molecules are particularly sensitive to the electrical field. For some reason, this will include only Christians and children.

I've also heard that the earth itself is going to become so disgusted with Christians, that it will generate, on it's own, an anti-gravity field that will cause all Christians to be sent into outerspace, to our doom.

My own personal opinion is that scientists will turn on the Hadron Collider at the same moment as the rapture, allowing 'scientists', politicians and Jesse and Al to blame the Hadron Collider for the sudden disappearance of millions of people. No one knows what will happen when it's turned on and it's just a thought that's gone through my mind for a while.

Lord willing, we'll hang around in the air for a few minutes so people can look up and see that we're with our Lord, without fear and rejoicing in His presence. That way some will accept the obvious, that it's the real rapture prophecied of by Paul in the first century Anno Domini. The majority would no doubt refuse to believe the evidence of their eyes.


Verisimilitude, Rapture Ready 84 Comments [5/21/2012 8:23:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Amber
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Quote# 87467

IF WOMEN knew the truth about the causes of breast cancer, would they behave with such silliness and immodesty at breast cancer fundraising events such as the recent Moonwalk in London? Would they be so enthusiastic about supporting the organizations that are, if not lying to them, at least consistently downplaying the truth?

The truth is, feminism causes breast cancer.

Abortion, delayed childbearing, childlessness, lack of breastfeeding, the birth control pill – many medical experts agree these phenomena, all abundantly supported by feminists, are connected to the striking increase in breast cancer in Western women.


Laura Wood, Thinking Housewife 51 Comments [5/21/2012 8:14:45 AM]
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Submitted By: AtroposHeart
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Quote# 87464

The Minnesota Family Council says it will introduce an amendment banning same-sex marriage, civil unions and domestic partnerships in Minnesota in the next few days. The group announced the new amendment push at a press conference with fundamentalist religious leaders on Tuesday.

Those leaders put forward a multifaith diatribe against gay and lesbian relationships stating that should gays get the right to marry, the world would end.

“If everyone is a gay, this world will cease to exist in 10 years,” said Ikram ul-Huq, the imam and religious director of the Muslim Community Center of Bloomington.

Ikram ul-Huq, The Minnesota Independent 68 Comments [5/21/2012 8:01:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch
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